Re: [PEDA] Windows XP- Can't Open Read Only Ddb's in 99SE
I use XP Pro and don't have any 'read only' problem like that. It's something goofy on your system, not Protel. Maybe during one of your 'mess' sessions, you got all your design folders into read only mode... If you use version control (do you?) and have 'checked in' your files, they will become read only on your drive until you check them out again. Tony -Original Message- From: Rusty Land [mailto:circuits;coinet.com] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 5:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEDA] Windows XP- Can't Open Read Only Ddb's in 99SE Using a new Windows XP Professional system when I try to import previous Ddb's they all open as Read Only. I've messed with assigning Read Only parameters to folders and files for quite awhile. Now the files are all set to not Read Only while the folders are Read Only- something to do with System folders in XP, seems every folder on the system is Read Only?? Any idea what's going on? Should 99SE work well on XP? Rusty Land * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:ForumAdministrator;TechServInc.com * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] SDK and Delphi Questions
Well, I'm no expert in the Protel Servers, but in Delphi. Unless you want to commercialize your product, the Delphi7 personal seems to suite. The next step, Delphi7 professional includes the source of many libraries, plus allows you to commercialize your work. The upgrades require a Delphi 6 of the same level, I think. For more info : http://www.borland.com/delphi/index.html I didn't follow the PDEV group, just noticed that the conditions to get all the information and the conditions to work under, ahem: the NDA, are not that motivating. Rene JaMi Smith wrote: Earth to PEDA! Earth to PEDA! Either I am lost in space, which is quite possible, or the PEDA List Server is. I sent the following post to the PEDA Forum, and was supprised to not get any replies. Then I noticed that the list seems to have slown down to a crawl, with only a very few posts showing up, and I thought my ISP must have lost all of my mail again (which they do on a regular basis), so I logged onto Yahoo! Groups and checked the PEDA Archive, and lo and behold, it only shows postings up to October 17th. Has the world come to an end? Did I miss the meltdown? Anyway, I am reposting this in hope that I can get some responses. Thanks, JaMi - Original Message - From: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 8:02 AM Subject: [PEDA] SDK and Delphi Questions So now that I am actually seriously thinking about tinkering aroud with the Protel 99 SE SDK, I guess it is time go out and buy some version of Borland Delphi, which I understand is necessary to use the SDK. What is Borland Delphi? I asked one person and they told me it was kind of like Visual Basic. I am totally clueless on this one (and a few other things), so any help in attempting to get started here would be greatly appreciated. OK, so I do a search on Borland Delphi on the net, and I come up with at many different versions and with prices all over the map: Delphi 7 Studio Professional Upgrade - $289 Delphi 7 Studio Professional Academic - $96 Delphi 7 Studio Enterprise Upgrade - $1569 Delphi 7 Studio Enterprise New User - $2700 Delphi Studio Professional 7 Full Product - $893 Delphi 7 Personal Full Product - $87 Delphi Studio 7 Academic - $389 Needless to say, I don't want to buy more than I need, and at the same time I certainly don't want to go out and buy something that is not going to do the job. I even have a question in my mind as to whether or not the SDK modules might be designed for and work better with an older version of the product, as I have run into this sort of thing before. Should I be looking for version 5 on Ebay or something? On the other hand, does anyone have any idea what I will need for the DXP SDK if and when it ever shows up? According to Murphy's Law it will probably be different. Thanks, JaMi Smith -- Ing.Buero R.Tschaggelar - http://www.ibrtses.com commercial newsgroups - http://www.talkto.net * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:ForumAdministrator;TechServInc.com * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] SDK and Delphi Questions
P99SE required D5. Standard edition is OK for server development but limited in some areas. You *can't* use D6 for P99SE. DXP, dunno possible D6. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:ForumAdministrator;TechServInc.com * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] SDK and Delphi Questions
Thanks, JaMi - Original Message - From: Rene Tschaggelar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and Delphi Questions Well, I'm no expert in the Protel Servers, but in Delphi. Unless you want to commercialize your product, the Delphi7 personal seems to suite. The next step, Delphi7 professional includes the source of many libraries, plus allows you to commercialize your work. The upgrades require a Delphi 6 of the same level, I think. For more info : http://www.borland.com/delphi/index.html I didn't follow the PDEV group, just noticed that the conditions to get all the information and the conditions to work under, ahem: the NDA, are not that motivating. Rene JaMi Smith wrote: Earth to PEDA! Earth to PEDA! Either I am lost in space, which is quite possible, or the PEDA List Server is. I sent the following post to the PEDA Forum, and was supprised to not get any replies. Then I noticed that the list seems to have slown down to a crawl, with only a very few posts showing up, and I thought my ISP must have lost all of my mail again (which they do on a regular basis), so I logged onto Yahoo! Groups and checked the PEDA Archive, and lo and behold, it only shows postings up to October 17th. Has the world come to an end? Did I miss the meltdown? Anyway, I am reposting this in hope that I can get some responses. Thanks, JaMi - Original Message - From: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 8:02 AM Subject: [PEDA] SDK and Delphi Questions So now that I am actually seriously thinking about tinkering aroud with the Protel 99 SE SDK, I guess it is time go out and buy some version of Borland Delphi, which I understand is necessary to use the SDK. What is Borland Delphi? I asked one person and they told me it was kind of like Visual Basic. I am totally clueless on this one (and a few other things), so any help in attempting to get started here would be greatly appreciated. OK, so I do a search on Borland Delphi on the net, and I come up with at many different versions and with prices all over the map: Delphi 7 Studio Professional Upgrade - $289 Delphi 7 Studio Professional Academic - $96 Delphi 7 Studio Enterprise Upgrade - $1569 Delphi 7 Studio Enterprise New User - $2700 Delphi Studio Professional 7 Full Product - $893 Delphi 7 Personal Full Product - $87 Delphi Studio 7 Academic - $389 Needless to say, I don't want to buy more than I need, and at the same time I certainly don't want to go out and buy something that is not going to do the job. I even have a question in my mind as to whether or not the SDK modules might be designed for and work better with an older version of the product, as I have run into this sort of thing before. Should I be looking for version 5 on Ebay or something? On the other hand, does anyone have any idea what I will need for the DXP SDK if and when it ever shows up? According to Murphy's Law it will probably be different. Thanks, JaMi Smith -- Ing.Buero R.Tschaggelar - http://www.ibrtses.com commercial newsgroups - http://www.talkto.net * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:ForumAdministrator;TechServInc.com * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] SDK and Delphi Questions
Ian, I did go thru all of the PEDA and PDEV Archives that I have avaiable to me here on this system (back to 9/12/01), and did note that several posts did mention that D6 would not work for P99, but that also it appears that D6 is what DXP is written in. I am wondering just what the problem is, and whether or not it may be possible to get a re-compile out of Sidney which would work on D6 (certainly less work than SP7). On the other hand, I wonder if D7 may work whareas D6 did not. To this extent, I thought about downloading the free Trial Version, but I realize that it would take me more that the 30 days just to learn enough of both the SDK and Delphi to be able to put the thing to the test, and see whether it would handle the compiled libraries. Is there some specific thing that D6 won't handle, that could be checked out on D7? I ran into this same kind of problem once before with Borland with Turbo C++ Version 2 versus Version 3 with some compiled libraries, but eventially found that while they would not work from the integrated environment, they could in fact be used with the command line Version of the newer Version. I am wondering if the problem with Version 6 might not be something like that. I guess that I just have to start crusing Ebay looking for D5. Does anyone know of any other soruces for used / recycled software?. Anyway, thanks for your input, JaMi - Original Message - From: Ian Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 3:03 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and Delphi Questions P99SE required D5. Standard edition is OK for server development but limited in some areas. You *can't* use D6 for P99SE. DXP, dunno possible D6. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:ForumAdministrator;TechServInc.com * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] SDK and Delphi Questions
The Protel SDK is implemented with Delphi run time packages. This allows controlled access to a part of the internal structure of Protel 99SE without requiring access to its (proprietary) source code. Packages are chunks of compiled code that are similar to ordinary Windows dll's but with additional object oriented class information. This gives the ability to access the object oriented structures (e.g. pads, tracks, text, etc.) contained in a design. These pre-compiled run time packages are Delphi compiler version specific. A package which was compiled with Delphi 5 cannot be accessed from external code that was compiled with Delphi 6. The Protel 98/99 SDK was originally compiled with Delphi 3. Protel 99SE, at one point, had both Delphi 3 and Delphi 5 versions but the Dephi 3 version was later discontinued. This means that you MUST use Delphi 5 for any Protel 99SE server development. Protel DXP appears to have been written with Delphi 6 but an SDK for DXP has not (yet?) been made available so, at the present time, you cannot write servers for it anyway. If the SDK for DXP is implemented in the same way as it was for 99SE, you would need the matching Delphi version for server development. John Williams - Original Message - From: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: JaMi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] SDK and Delphi Questions Ian, I did go thru all of the PEDA and PDEV Archives that I have avaiable to me here on this system (back to 9/12/01), and did note that several posts did mention that D6 would not work for P99, but that also it appears that D6 is what DXP is written in. I am wondering just what the problem is, and whether or not it may be possible to get a re-compile out of Sidney which would work on D6 (certainly less work than SP7). On the other hand, I wonder if D7 may work whareas D6 did not. To this extent, I thought about downloading the free Trial Version, but I realize that it would take me more that the 30 days just to learn enough of both the SDK and Delphi to be able to put the thing to the test, and see whether it would handle the compiled libraries. Is there some specific thing that D6 won't handle, that could be checked out on D7? I ran into this same kind of problem once before with Borland with Turbo C++ Version 2 versus Version 3 with some compiled libraries, but eventially found that while they would not work from the integrated environment, they could in fact be used with the command line Version of the newer Version. I am wondering if the problem with Version 6 might not be something like that. I guess that I just have to start crusing Ebay looking for D5. Does anyone know of any other soruces for used / recycled software?. Anyway, thanks for your input, JaMi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:ForumAdministrator;TechServInc.com * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum;techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
