Re: [PEDA] DRC acute angle on polygons

2004-01-19 Thread prathibha
Can anyone tell what is ment by UNC in mentionin the
drill size of a nut ?.


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Re: [PEDA] DRC acute angle on polygons

2004-01-19 Thread Leon Heller

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 Can anyone tell what is ment by UNC in mentionin the
 drill size of a nut ?.

Unified Coarse thread.

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[PEDA] Sch lib global change

2004-01-19 Thread Tim Fifield
I've a KOA resistor library in in 99SE and DXP that I want to change to a
Lead Free library. Basically all I want to do is change the LTD in the
part number of one of the text fields to TTD. I could edit each part
separately but that would probably be a solid week or two of work.

Is there a way to export to a spreadsheet or do a global change in the
library editor to make this quick and easy? I don't care which software
package I do it in because I can go between the two with DXP.

Tim Fifield



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Re: [PEDA] Gerber accuracy

2004-01-19 Thread Tom Reineking
Thanks Steve,

That solved the problem.  I checked the gerbers and, sure enough, the 
arcs were converted to straight lines that then violated the clearance 
settings.  Amazing.

Cheers,
Tom
Steve Wiseman wrote:

17/01/2004 00:37:59, Tom Reineking [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 

I'm sure that I'm missing some basic 
understanding concerning gerber accuracy.  Any clues?  Thank 
   

you for any 
 

suggestions.
   

Yep - use 'track', not 'arc' to generate the teardrops.  For some 
reason, the arcs get turned back into straight lines, and you get 
the clearance violations you've noticed... thousands of them.

Hope that helps, 

Steve





 



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Re: [PEDA] Sch lib global change

2004-01-19 Thread Rich Thompson
Tim

I'm sure there is an easier way but I've done similar in the past using DXP.

In the library editor, goto tools/parameter manager, select just parts.
In the spreadsheet window select the entire column you want to modify (all
parts) and copy it.
Open Excel or similar and paste in.  Use excels search and replace
functions. Select the cells again and paste back into DXP, in the same
position you got it from. 

This did the job pretty quickly when I was in a rush and couldn't get a
query to do it.

Rich

-Original Message-
From: Tim Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 January 2004 16:46
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: [PEDA] Sch lib global change

I've a KOA resistor library in in 99SE and DXP that I want to change to a
Lead Free library. Basically all I want to do is change the LTD in the
part number of one of the text fields to TTD. I could edit each part
separately but that would probably be a solid week or two of work.

Is there a way to export to a spreadsheet or do a global change in the
library editor to make this quick and easy? I don't care which software
package I do it in because I can go between the two with DXP.

Tim Fifield





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Re: [PEDA] (un)hiding part fields

2004-01-19 Thread Abd ulRahman Lomax
At 08:55 PM 1/18/2004, Ian Wilson wrote:
The only problem with the global edit solution (in P99SE) is that it can 
be a pain undoing the unhide later - particularly when you have some parts 
where you want to show some or all of the hidden fields.  Maintaining a 
selection during the filed editing can help but is unreliable.
It could be said to be reliable -- selections don't just change on their 
own -- but it is quirky. For example, if you select a part, the displayed 
part fields appear as selected. But if you then edit one of the fields, the 
selection box is not checked.

  I am not sure - can you use an unused field (if you have one) to mark 
which parts you want to do the unhide and rehide operations?  I am not 
sure if you can match by fields in globals - too long since I used P99SE.
Yes, you can match by fields in 99SE global edits.

There are a number of oddities in the 99SE treatment of part fields. They 
are distinct fields, but a global edit on one of them, say Field 15, will 
edit all of them, not just Part Field 15.

So if I wanted to unhide a particular field for many parts, I'd think of 
editing the field to have, say, XX at the beginning. I'd use the 
spreadsheet to do this. Then I could use a global edit keyed on XX* to 
unhide the fields. Then I could use the spreadsheet to remove the XX, and 
also, if I wanted, rehide hidden fields, or that could be done with a 
global edit.

I'd say that this was an area where Protel Schematic was functional, but 
not very well executed, not consistent. It would have been easy if the Hide 
attribute for the fields had been included in spreadsheet export. But it 
wasn't. I haven't looked at DXP in this regard, but it sounds from Mr. 
Wilson's comments that DXP does allow spreadsheet or spreadsheet-type 
access to the necessary fields.

But the loss of easy global edits hurts. They could have been improved 
instead of being completely replaced



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Re: [PEDA] Sch lib global change

2004-01-19 Thread Abd ulRahman Lomax
At 11:45 AM 1/19/2004, Tim Fifield wrote:
I've a KOA resistor library in in 99SE and DXP that I want to change to a
Lead Free library. Basically all I want to do is change the LTD in the
part number of one of the text fields to TTD. I could edit each part
separately but that would probably be a solid week or two of work.
In 99SE: unfortunately, the Export to Spreadsheet and Global edit 
facilities were left out of the 99SE Schematic Library editor. You can, 
however, write the library as an ASCII file. File/Save As/Advanced 
Schematic ASCII. Then you can search and replace the fields in a text 
editor. Be careful... If LTD exists in other fields than the one you want 
to change, it's not going to be as simple as a single search-and-replace 
LTD - TTD.

Note that the Schematic Editor also will export to ASCII, and this feature 
could be used to do certain kinds of global edits that are cumbersome in 
the program itself But there'd have to be a fair amount of editing to 
do before it would be worth the hassle And when editing ASCII 
databases, one is especially vulnerable to mistakes, which could create 
subtle errors, so backing up and caution are in order.

In DXP, Schematic Libraries can no longer be saved as ASCII. However, the 
Parameter Manager seems to perform some of the functions for which Export 
to Spreadsheet would have been used. (Tools/Parameter Manager), and, for 
this task, would be superior to editing ASCII anyway.

I do worry about the loss of ASCII forms of the files. The existence of the 
ASCII database for various Protel documents was a powerful feature: when 
all else fails, you could get at the raw data.

I did not find it possible to open in DXP the ASCII form of a P99SE 
schematic library. However, such a library can be taken back into P99SE, 
written as binary, and then taken into DXP.



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Re: [PEDA] DRC acute angle on polygons

2004-01-19 Thread prathibha
thanks Leon,


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Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 3:04 PM
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From: prathibha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] DRC acute angle on polygons


 Can anyone tell what is ment by UNC in mentionin the
 drill size of a nut ?.

Unified Coarse thread.

Leon
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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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