Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: How to: part 2
Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: How to: part 2
On Sun, 04 Feb 2001 11:57:52 -0500, aj wrote: >It seems that when such modifiers are added, the second "esc" > (that which cancels the command entirely) is either removed or > automagically generated "for me". My understanding, as gleaned > from the Help file (Sch:placewire), is that the first "ESC" should > stop the process, and the second should cancel it. I seem to have missed previous posts on this so I am guessing at the subject. When placing wires one ESC does end the current wire but you are still in placewire mode and a second ESC will end it. One thing to be aware of if you are trying to 'ESC' with the right mouse button then 'ESC' is a click not a press. You must give the right mouse button a very brief tap to stay in place wire mode. The speed with which you must press and release the button appears to be related to the double click speed setting in the system mouse control panel - if double click is set fast it is almost impossible to generate a mouse button click rather than press. If Protel has documented its unique (in my experience) mouse operation I never found it. Protel would be more usable if the time threshold differentiating between click and press were configurable. I have double click assigned to a mouse button so have the double click time set very fast which means when I need to click something twice (often used in Protel) I don't have to deliberately wait to avoid it being considered a doubleclick, sadly it also means in Protel I often generate mouse presses when I meant to click (especially with the right button - that finger is slower and no other application working like Protel means I have little practice). Cheers, Terry. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "reply" command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web site. You will need to give the same * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). * * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To leave the EDAFORUM discussion list, send a email with 'leave edaforum' in the body to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' More Information : http://www.dolist.net
Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: How to: part 2
[PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: How to: part 2
Hi, Still having problems. (I didn't have time until this morning to try Jon Elson's suggestion, ie, the addition of a "Repeat" modifier.) 1. There doesn't appear to be a "repeat=true" available to me. That is, Protel's help doesn't show "repeat" as a valid modifier for the Sch:placewire process, and it does nothing when added. 2. WRT checking the standard commands for example syntax, the default placewire menu item simply uses the "Sch:placewire" process with no modifiers. No "repeat=true", or anything else, for that matter. 3. my menu items use variants of the following modifier statement: COLOR=16512|LineWidth=0 where the color or linewidth changes, depending, of course, on the color and/or linewidth that is chosen for a particular process... It seems that when such modifiers are added, the second "esc" (that which cancels the command entirely) is either removed or automagically generated "for me". My understanding, as gleaned from the Help file (Sch:placewire), is that the first "ESC" should stop the process, and the second should cancel it. Anyone know a way around the problem, or alternatively, can you confirm that it's just another of those "trivial" bugs? thanks, aj * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "reply" command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web site. You will need to give the same * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). * * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To leave the EDAFORUM discussion list, send a email with 'leave edaforum' in the body to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' More Information : http://www.dolist.net
Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: How to: part 2
Andrew Jenkins wrote: > Hi, > > Still having problems. (I didn't have time until this morning to try Jon Elson's >suggestion, ie, the addition of a "Repeat" modifier.) > > 1. There doesn't appear to be a "repeat=true" available to me. That is, Protel's >help doesn't show "repeat" as a valid modifier for the Sch:placewire process, and it >does nothing when added. The correct entry in the parameters box is repeat=TRUE. the separator is the | character. This may not be available on all processes. It definitely works for place power port, which is one of my standard modifications. I can't believe it is missing from place wire. If it is the case that this doesn't work ONLY on the new menu entries you've created, then I guess it is a kind of bug, where they forgot to allow placewire to accept this parameter. Jon * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "reply" command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web site. You will need to give the same * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). * * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To leave the EDAFORUM discussion list, send a email with 'leave edaforum' in the body to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' More Information : http://www.dolist.net
Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: How to: part 2
> Still having problems. (I didn't have time until this morning to try Jon Elson's suggestion, ie, the addition of a "Repeat" modifier.) > > 1. There doesn't appear to be a "repeat=true" available to me. That is, Protel's help doesn't show "repeat" as a valid modifier for the Sch:placewire process, and it does nothing when added. > > 2. WRT checking the standard commands for example syntax, the default placewire menu item simply uses the "Sch:placewire" process with no modifiers. No "repeat=true", or anything else, for that matter. > > 3. my menu items use variants of the following modifier statement: > > COLOR=16512|LineWidth=0 > > where the color or linewidth changes, depending, of course, on the color and/or linewidth that is chosen for a particular process... > > It seems that when such modifiers are added, the second "esc" (that which cancels the command entirely) is either removed or automagically generated "for me". My understanding, as gleaned from the Help file (Sch:placewire), is that the first "ESC" should stop the process, and the second should cancel it. > > Anyone know a way around the problem, or alternatively, can you confirm that it's just another of those "trivial" bugs? > > Andrew Jenkins After your earlier posting on this topic, I trawled the files cached on my hard drive from my (web-)surfing excursions, and recovered the following text which *was* present on Protel's Web Site in times past (like part of the second half of last year): Do you find placing a power port from the toolbar in Schematic only allows you to place once? Want to know how to place repeatedly? There has been a parameter introduced for the SCH:PlacePowerPort process on the Power Objects toolbar. It enables you to place a power port repeatedly until the Escape key or right mouse button is pressed. To enter the parameter edit the Power Objects toolbar by double clicking on the title bar of the toolbar. Double click on one of the processes listed SCH:PlacePowerPort and append to the parameter field |Repeat=true. Confirm the change by pressing OK. You can enter this for all the processes in this toolbar if you wish. Close the dialog and then place a power port from the toolbar Check that it continuously places until escape from the process. If it stops placing ports after the first one is placed then check that the parameter has been entered correctly. This was listed under a heading of "Tip of the Week"; my recollections are that that particular tip was listed for a not inconsiderable number of weeks... It look as though this parameter *does* work with the SCH:PlacePowerPort process, as claimed, but *not* with other processes, such as Sch:PlaceWire. So one suggestion that I would make, for provision in the next Service Pack, is for such a parameter to be supported for other processes as well. Apart from "obvious" choices like Sch:PlaceWire and Sch:PlaceLine, this is something I would *also* like to see provided for the Sch:Paste and Pcb:Paste processes. I have lost track of the number of times that such an enhancement would have been useful to me (and one thing I recall from using Autocad was that a similar "auto-repeating" command was available in this regard). My suggestion, for what it is worth, is that you set up resources to place wires with properties that you want (e.g red wires that are extra thin). After placing the *first* such wire, switch to using the Sch:PlaceWire command, with *no* parameters at all. The parameters that were most recently used become the default parameters in the event that no parameters are provided at all. Then, when you want a wire with *different* properties, either use a customised resource to achieve this, or hit the Tab key after invoking the PlaceWire command. I agree that that is not as user-friendly as having a command that truly supports auto-repeat. But until such a command is fully supported, that is probably the best way to go... Regards, Geoff Harland. - E-Mail Disclaimer The Information in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this e-mail by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any opinions or advice contained in this e-mail are confidential and not for public display. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "reply" command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web site. You will need to give the same * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). * * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * to unsubscribe or to sub
