Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default?

2001-05-07 Thread Crist, Michael

Funny - those are the default primitives I WAS able to make work!  I can
turn the default status of each Part Field Hide box on and off, and it works
just like you would expect.  It's when I start trying to alter the Part
default values, especially Hidden Fields and Field Names, that I have
problems. This is using 99SE and sp6.

Mike Crist
Newport Corp.
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-Original Message-
From: Hugh Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 7:14 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list proteledausers
Subject: Re: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default?


Has anyone actually made this work as I have been trying for the last 5
years and have looked in the .dft file and this change makes no
difference the next time the program is loaded.  I have tried all kinds
of tricks to make it work correctly but it seems it is a recurrent bug.
Some other fields in the default primitives work.  When I created my
library  I used Part Field Name 1 for the text to appear on the schematic
(as the library fields are not displayable on the schematic - future
improvement potential!) and I wanted the text to be basically just the
value or brief IC part number.  Things have got worse with 99SE as the
default for Part Field 1 Text is now * and it cannot be set to blank or
hidden so I have to turn it off each time.  The default primitive were a
good idea that has been poorly implemented, I am afraid, perhaps SP7???.
I am re-configuring my library to work around the bug.

Good luck, Hugh.

Drew Lundsten wrote:

> Is there a way (a .ini or other setting) to have e.g. Part Field 1
> always be shown/not hidden? We use these fields for internal part
> numbers, stuffing options and some other information and it would be
> nice if Protel could show them by default rather than doing the
> uncheck-hidden-fields, unhide-part-field, recheck-hidden-fields mouse
> dance for each and every part.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Drew
>



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Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default?

2001-05-07 Thread Drew Lundsten

I have the unhide part working (99SE/SP6) but I haven't been able to reset
the default to 'blank' or space from its setting of '*'. Anyone have any
luck resetting the default field ENTRY to something other than '*'?

Drew

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Subject: RE: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default?


Funny - those are the default primitives I WAS able to make work!  I can
turn the default status of each Part Field Hide box on and off, and it works
just like you would expect.  It's when I start trying to alter the Part
default values, especially Hidden Fields and Field Names, that I have
problems. This is using 99SE and sp6.

Mike Crist
Newport Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Hugh Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 7:14 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list proteledausers
Subject: Re: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default?


Has anyone actually made this work as I have been trying for the last 5
years and have looked in the .dft file and this change makes no
difference the next time the program is loaded.  I have tried all kinds
of tricks to make it work correctly but it seems it is a recurrent bug.
Some other fields in the default primitives work.  When I created my
library  I used Part Field Name 1 for the text to appear on the schematic
(as the library fields are not displayable on the schematic - future
improvement potential!) and I wanted the text to be basically just the
value or brief IC part number.  Things have got worse with 99SE as the
default for Part Field 1 Text is now * and it cannot be set to blank or
hidden so I have to turn it off each time.  The default primitive were a
good idea that has been poorly implemented, I am afraid, perhaps SP7???.
I am re-configuring my library to work around the bug.

Good luck, Hugh.

Drew Lundsten wrote:

> Is there a way (a .ini or other setting) to have e.g. Part Field 1
> always be shown/not hidden? We use these fields for internal part
> numbers, stuffing options and some other information and it would be
> nice if Protel could show them by default rather than doing the
> uncheck-hidden-fields, unhide-part-field, recheck-hidden-fields mouse
> dance for each and every part.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Drew
>



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Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default?

2001-05-07 Thread Hugh Stevenson

Has anyone actually made this work as I have been trying for the last 5
years and have looked in the .dft file and this change makes no
difference the next time the program is loaded.  I have tried all kinds
of tricks to make it work correctly but it seems it is a recurrent bug.
Some other fields in the default primitives work.  When I created my
library  I used Part Field Name 1 for the text to appear on the schematic
(as the library fields are not displayable on the schematic - future
improvement potential!) and I wanted the text to be basically just the
value or brief IC part number.  Things have got worse with 99SE as the
default for Part Field 1 Text is now * and it cannot be set to blank or
hidden so I have to turn it off each time.  The default primitive were a
good idea that has been poorly implemented, I am afraid, perhaps SP7???.
I am re-configuring my library to work around the bug.

Good luck, Hugh.

Drew Lundsten wrote:

> Is there a way (a .ini or other setting) to have e.g. Part Field 1
> always be shown/not hidden? We use these fields for internal part
> numbers, stuffing options and some other information and it would be
> nice if Protel could show them by default rather than doing the
> uncheck-hidden-fields, unhide-part-field, recheck-hidden-fields mouse
> dance for each and every part.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Drew
>
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Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default?

2001-05-07 Thread Colby

If you go into Tools-->Preferences and then to the Default Primitives tab
you will find listings for each of the part fields.

Unhide the fields you wish to show.

Since I don't think this default primitive can be changed by placement...
becuase of how they are... I don't think you need to worry about the
Permanent box... this setting should remain permanent until you enter the
defaults to change it again since you cannot change this during placement.

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Subject: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default?


> Is there a way (a .ini or other setting) to have e.g. Part Field 1
> always be shown/not hidden? We use these fields for internal part
> numbers, stuffing options and some other information and it would be
> nice if Protel could show them by default rather than doing the
> uncheck-hidden-fields, unhide-part-field, recheck-hidden-fields mouse
> dance for each and every part.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Drew
>
> --
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[PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default?

2001-05-07 Thread Drew Lundsten

Is there a way (a .ini or other setting) to have e.g. Part Field 1
always be shown/not hidden? We use these fields for internal part
numbers, stuffing options and some other information and it would be
nice if Protel could show them by default rather than doing the
uncheck-hidden-fields, unhide-part-field, recheck-hidden-fields mouse
dance for each and every part.

Thanks in advance,

Drew

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[PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default?

2001-05-07 Thread Crist, Michael

When I was trying dodgy things to bring part numbers across from the library
to the schematic (described in a post yesterday) I went into
Tools/Preferences/Default Primitives and un-selected Hide from the first few
Part Fields in the primitives list.  Despite my disappointment with other
Default Primitives arrangements, that much worked well, and should
accomplish what you want to do.

Mike Crist
Newport Corporation
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-Original Message-
Is there a way (a .ini or other setting) to have e.g. Part Field 1
always be shown/not hidden? We use these fields for internal part
numbers, stuffing options and some other information and it would be
nice if Protel could show them by default rather than doing the
uncheck-hidden-fields, unhide-part-field, recheck-hidden-fields mouse
dance for each and every part.



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