Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default?
Funny - those are the default primitives I WAS able to make work! I can turn the default status of each Part Field Hide box on and off, and it works just like you would expect. It's when I start trying to alter the Part default values, especially Hidden Fields and Field Names, that I have problems. This is using 99SE and sp6. Mike Crist Newport Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Hugh Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 7:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list proteledausers Subject: Re: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default? Has anyone actually made this work as I have been trying for the last 5 years and have looked in the .dft file and this change makes no difference the next time the program is loaded. I have tried all kinds of tricks to make it work correctly but it seems it is a recurrent bug. Some other fields in the default primitives work. When I created my library I used Part Field Name 1 for the text to appear on the schematic (as the library fields are not displayable on the schematic - future improvement potential!) and I wanted the text to be basically just the value or brief IC part number. Things have got worse with 99SE as the default for Part Field 1 Text is now * and it cannot be set to blank or hidden so I have to turn it off each time. The default primitive were a good idea that has been poorly implemented, I am afraid, perhaps SP7???. I am re-configuring my library to work around the bug. Good luck, Hugh. Drew Lundsten wrote: > Is there a way (a .ini or other setting) to have e.g. Part Field 1 > always be shown/not hidden? We use these fields for internal part > numbers, stuffing options and some other information and it would be > nice if Protel could show them by default rather than doing the > uncheck-hidden-fields, unhide-part-field, recheck-hidden-fields mouse > dance for each and every part. > > Thanks in advance, > > Drew > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "reply" command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web site. You will need to give the same * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). * * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To leave the EDAFORUM discussion list, send a email with 'leave edaforum' in the body to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' More Information : http://www.dolist.net
Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default?
I have the unhide part working (99SE/SP6) but I haven't been able to reset the default to 'blank' or space from its setting of '*'. Anyone have any luck resetting the default field ENTRY to something other than '*'? Drew -Original Message- From: TSListServer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Crist, Michael Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 8:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list proteledausers Subject: RE: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default? Funny - those are the default primitives I WAS able to make work! I can turn the default status of each Part Field Hide box on and off, and it works just like you would expect. It's when I start trying to alter the Part default values, especially Hidden Fields and Field Names, that I have problems. This is using 99SE and sp6. Mike Crist Newport Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Hugh Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 7:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list proteledausers Subject: Re: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default? Has anyone actually made this work as I have been trying for the last 5 years and have looked in the .dft file and this change makes no difference the next time the program is loaded. I have tried all kinds of tricks to make it work correctly but it seems it is a recurrent bug. Some other fields in the default primitives work. When I created my library I used Part Field Name 1 for the text to appear on the schematic (as the library fields are not displayable on the schematic - future improvement potential!) and I wanted the text to be basically just the value or brief IC part number. Things have got worse with 99SE as the default for Part Field 1 Text is now * and it cannot be set to blank or hidden so I have to turn it off each time. The default primitive were a good idea that has been poorly implemented, I am afraid, perhaps SP7???. I am re-configuring my library to work around the bug. Good luck, Hugh. Drew Lundsten wrote: > Is there a way (a .ini or other setting) to have e.g. Part Field 1 > always be shown/not hidden? We use these fields for internal part > numbers, stuffing options and some other information and it would be > nice if Protel could show them by default rather than doing the > uncheck-hidden-fields, unhide-part-field, recheck-hidden-fields mouse > dance for each and every part. > > Thanks in advance, > > Drew > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "reply" command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web site. You will need to give the same * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). * * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "reply" command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web site. You will need to give the same * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). * * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To leave the EDAFORUM discussion list, send a email with 'leave edaforum' in the body to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' More Information : http://www.dolist.net
Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default?
Has anyone actually made this work as I have been trying for the last 5 years and have looked in the .dft file and this change makes no difference the next time the program is loaded. I have tried all kinds of tricks to make it work correctly but it seems it is a recurrent bug. Some other fields in the default primitives work. When I created my library I used Part Field Name 1 for the text to appear on the schematic (as the library fields are not displayable on the schematic - future improvement potential!) and I wanted the text to be basically just the value or brief IC part number. Things have got worse with 99SE as the default for Part Field 1 Text is now * and it cannot be set to blank or hidden so I have to turn it off each time. The default primitive were a good idea that has been poorly implemented, I am afraid, perhaps SP7???. I am re-configuring my library to work around the bug. Good luck, Hugh. Drew Lundsten wrote: > Is there a way (a .ini or other setting) to have e.g. Part Field 1 > always be shown/not hidden? We use these fields for internal part > numbers, stuffing options and some other information and it would be > nice if Protel could show them by default rather than doing the > uncheck-hidden-fields, unhide-part-field, recheck-hidden-fields mouse > dance for each and every part. > > Thanks in advance, > > Drew > > -- > Drew Lundsten<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> direct +1.858.882.8828 > Continuous Computing Corporationfax +1.858.777.3388 > 9380 Carroll Park Dr, San Diego 92121 cell +1.619.847.4251 > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST > * > * Use the "reply" command in your email program to > * respond to this message. > * > * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at > * the Association web site. You will need to give the same > * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not > * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). > * > * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html > * to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Hugh Stevenson Design Engineer Blue Sky Technologies P/L 36 Bennett Street ALPHINGTON Victoria 3078 Ph./FAX: +61 3 94997585 Mob.: 0427 780 962 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "reply" command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web site. You will need to give the same * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). * * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To leave the EDAFORUM discussion list, send a email with 'leave edaforum' in the body to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' More Information : http://www.dolist.net
Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default?
If you go into Tools-->Preferences and then to the Default Primitives tab you will find listings for each of the part fields. Unhide the fields you wish to show. Since I don't think this default primitive can be changed by placement... becuase of how they are... I don't think you need to worry about the Permanent box... this setting should remain permanent until you enter the defaults to change it again since you cannot change this during placement. -- Colby Siemer** Custom Battery Chargers ** Custom Power Supplies PowerStream Technology ** Custom UPS 140 S. Mountainway Drive ** Custom DC/DC Converters Orem Utah 84058 ** Power management electronics for OEMs http://www.PowerStream.com - Original Message - From: Drew Lundsten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Multiple recipients of list proteledausers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 11:34 AM Subject: [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default? > Is there a way (a .ini or other setting) to have e.g. Part Field 1 > always be shown/not hidden? We use these fields for internal part > numbers, stuffing options and some other information and it would be > nice if Protel could show them by default rather than doing the > uncheck-hidden-fields, unhide-part-field, recheck-hidden-fields mouse > dance for each and every part. > > Thanks in advance, > > Drew > > -- > Drew Lundsten<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> direct +1.858.882.8828 > Continuous Computing Corporationfax +1.858.777.3388 > 9380 Carroll Park Dr, San Diego 92121 cell +1.619.847.4251 > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST > * > * Use the "reply" command in your email program to > * respond to this message. > * > * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at > * the Association web site. You will need to give the same > * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not > * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). > * > * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html > * to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "reply" command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web site. You will need to give the same * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). * * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To leave the EDAFORUM discussion list, send a email with 'leave edaforum' in the body to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' More Information : http://www.dolist.net
[PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default?
Is there a way (a .ini or other setting) to have e.g. Part Field 1 always be shown/not hidden? We use these fields for internal part numbers, stuffing options and some other information and it would be nice if Protel could show them by default rather than doing the uncheck-hidden-fields, unhide-part-field, recheck-hidden-fields mouse dance for each and every part. Thanks in advance, Drew -- Drew Lundsten<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> direct +1.858.882.8828 Continuous Computing Corporationfax +1.858.777.3388 9380 Carroll Park Dr, San Diego 92121 cell +1.619.847.4251 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "reply" command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web site. You will need to give the same * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). * * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To leave the EDAFORUM discussion list, send a email with 'leave edaforum' in the body to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' More Information : http://www.dolist.net
[PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Unhide part fields by default?
When I was trying dodgy things to bring part numbers across from the library to the schematic (described in a post yesterday) I went into Tools/Preferences/Default Primitives and un-selected Hide from the first few Part Fields in the primitives list. Despite my disappointment with other Default Primitives arrangements, that much worked well, and should accomplish what you want to do. Mike Crist Newport Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Is there a way (a .ini or other setting) to have e.g. Part Field 1 always be shown/not hidden? We use these fields for internal part numbers, stuffing options and some other information and it would be nice if Protel could show them by default rather than doing the uncheck-hidden-fields, unhide-part-field, recheck-hidden-fields mouse dance for each and every part. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message sent by: PROTEL EDA USERS MAILING LIST * * Use the "reply" command in your email program to * respond to this message. * * To unsubscribe from this mailing list use the form at * the Association web site. You will need to give the same * email address you originally used to subscribe (do not * give an alias unless it was used to subscribe). * * Visit http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/subscrib.html * to unsubscribe or to subscribe a new email address. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To leave the EDAFORUM discussion list, send a email with 'leave edaforum' in the body to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' More Information : http://www.dolist.net