Re: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?

2004-03-28 Thread Wamnet
I'm using XP and 99SE and it works fine...


> >I don't use DXP myself but a coworker here has no choice since 99SE won't 
> >work on WinXP. 



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Re: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?

2004-03-19 Thread Robert M. Wolfe
I believe it is not just on WIN XP it has
also happened on WIN2KPro
For me XP was fine but Win2k lost all use of HTML help.
Other help like on 99SE still worked.

Altium has stated to me it was a Windows problem. I have since
been to MS sites and email forums and there are alot of people
out there with HTML help not working.

In my case I do not believe it was Protel that caused the help
to go away, but not 100% sure because I only
discovered help not working long after any installs.

For months I was unable to get help to work, and nobody
on the MS forums had any really easy solutions that I could
use. So I just lived with it.

However all of a sudden again (after a total uninstall of DXP and
reinstall) help works again. Don't honestly know if this did it or
not either.

Sorry for the long winded post but basically from what I can tell
it is a WIN problem.

Bob Wolfe



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From: "Cameron Hamilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?


> First posting to group. Getting up to speed on 99SE and I have been
reading
> the all the posts on problems which has helped me avoid a lot of pitfalls.
>
> I've encountered a strange  problem when loading 99SE and SP1 using WinXP
> Home edition on a Toshiba laptop. 99SE appears to function correctly, but
> the Windows Help and Support command in Start no longer runs. When I
restore
> to a previous time, the help function runs correctly. I'm investigating
> what's being affected and will post a fix when I find the cause unless
> someone else has already figured it out and can post a resolution.
>
> Cameron Hamilton
> Design Engineer
> Hamilton-Kinder LLC
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ray Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 9:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?
>
>
> > At 03:32 PM 3/17/2004 -0700, you wrote:
> > >I don't have an answer for you regarding the DXP stuff. However, I am
> > >running P99SE on WinXP. What did you mean by "won't work"?
> >
> > I'm merely recounting what I've heard from other engineers here since
I'm
> > still using 99SE on Win2K myself.  Several of them have told me that
99SE
> > either simply crashes the WinXP OS itself, or hangs up.  I've passed on
to
> > them the various group responses indicating that it should work fine so
> > that they might possibly want to retry it.  I'm sure they'll be very
happy
> > if they can get it to work.  I've actually hesitated to switch to WinXP
> > myself because I didn't want to switch to DXP.
> >
> >
> > >Darcy Davis
> > >Design Engineer,
> > >Dynastream Innovations, Inc.
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: Ray Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: March 17, 2004 3:05 PM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?
> > >
> > >
> > >I don't use DXP myself but a coworker here has no choice since 99SE
won't
> > >work on WinXP.  Anyway, when it came time to annotate his schematic to
> get
> > >rid of all the question mark designators he went through the standard
> > >procedure.  When it was done he found that several schematic symbols
had
> > >been arbitrarily moved to other pages and plopped down right in the
> middle
> > >of nowhere!  In addition, some existing symbols had been duplicated and
> > >placed in arbitrary places on arbitrary pages.  Therefore, his solution
> is
> > >to simply go through all 12 pages of his schematic every time he
> annotates
> > >in order to correct DXP's errors (or should this be considered a
> > >feature?).  Has anyone seen this behavior?
> > >
> > >Ray Mitchell
> > >Engineer, Code 2732
> > >SPAWAR Systems Center
> > >San Diego, CA. 92152
> > >(619)553-5344
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Re: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?

2004-03-19 Thread Tony Karavidas
I don't remember the fix, but I do remember it being mentioned on this forum
a couple years ago. Check the archives. Maybe someone that had to deal with
the problem at the time will chime in.

Are you talking about SP1 for 99SE? You should be running SP6.

Tony


> -Original Message-
> From: Cameron Hamilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 7:52 AM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?
> 
> First posting to group. Getting up to speed on 99SE and I 
> have been reading the all the posts on problems which has 
> helped me avoid a lot of pitfalls.
> 
> I've encountered a strange  problem when loading 99SE and SP1 
> using WinXP Home edition on a Toshiba laptop. 99SE appears to 
> function correctly, but the Windows Help and Support command 
> in Start no longer runs. When I restore to a previous time, 
> the help function runs correctly. I'm investigating what's 
> being affected and will post a fix when I find the cause 
> unless someone else has already figured it out and can post a 
> resolution.
> 
> Cameron Hamilton
> Design Engineer
> Hamilton-Kinder LLC
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ray Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 9:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?
> 
> 
> > At 03:32 PM 3/17/2004 -0700, you wrote:
> > >I don't have an answer for you regarding the DXP stuff. 
> However, I am
> > >running P99SE on WinXP. What did you mean by "won't work"?
> >
> > I'm merely recounting what I've heard from other engineers 
> here since I'm
> > still using 99SE on Win2K myself.  Several of them have 
> told me that 99SE
> > either simply crashes the WinXP OS itself, or hangs up.  
> I've passed on to
> > them the various group responses indicating that it should 
> work fine so
> > that they might possibly want to retry it.  I'm sure 
> they'll be very happy
> > if they can get it to work.  I've actually hesitated to 
> switch to WinXP
> > myself because I didn't want to switch to DXP.
> >
> >
> > >Darcy Davis
> > >Design Engineer,
> > >Dynastream Innovations, Inc.
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: Ray Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: March 17, 2004 3:05 PM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?
> > >
> > >
> > >I don't use DXP myself but a coworker here has no choice 
> since 99SE won't
> > >work on WinXP.  Anyway, when it came time to annotate his 
> schematic to
> get
> > >rid of all the question mark designators he went through 
> the standard
> > >procedure.  When it was done he found that several 
> schematic symbols had
> > >been arbitrarily moved to other pages and plopped down right in the
> middle
> > >of nowhere!  In addition, some existing symbols had been 
> duplicated and
> > >placed in arbitrary places on arbitrary pages.  Therefore, 
> his solution
> is
> > >to simply go through all 12 pages of his schematic every time he
> annotates
> > >in order to correct DXP's errors (or should this be considered a
> > >feature?).  Has anyone seen this behavior?
> > >
> > >Ray Mitchell
> > >Engineer, Code 2732
> > >SPAWAR Systems Center
> > >San Diego, CA. 92152
> > >(619)553-5344
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?

2004-03-19 Thread Cameron Hamilton
First posting to group. Getting up to speed on 99SE and I have been reading
the all the posts on problems which has helped me avoid a lot of pitfalls.

I've encountered a strange  problem when loading 99SE and SP1 using WinXP
Home edition on a Toshiba laptop. 99SE appears to function correctly, but
the Windows Help and Support command in Start no longer runs. When I restore
to a previous time, the help function runs correctly. I'm investigating
what's being affected and will post a fix when I find the cause unless
someone else has already figured it out and can post a resolution.

Cameron Hamilton
Design Engineer
Hamilton-Kinder LLC

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- Original Message - 
From: "Ray Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?


> At 03:32 PM 3/17/2004 -0700, you wrote:
> >I don't have an answer for you regarding the DXP stuff. However, I am
> >running P99SE on WinXP. What did you mean by "won't work"?
>
> I'm merely recounting what I've heard from other engineers here since I'm
> still using 99SE on Win2K myself.  Several of them have told me that 99SE
> either simply crashes the WinXP OS itself, or hangs up.  I've passed on to
> them the various group responses indicating that it should work fine so
> that they might possibly want to retry it.  I'm sure they'll be very happy
> if they can get it to work.  I've actually hesitated to switch to WinXP
> myself because I didn't want to switch to DXP.
>
>
> >Darcy Davis
> >Design Engineer,
> >Dynastream Innovations, Inc.
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Ray Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: March 17, 2004 3:05 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?
> >
> >
> >I don't use DXP myself but a coworker here has no choice since 99SE won't
> >work on WinXP.  Anyway, when it came time to annotate his schematic to
get
> >rid of all the question mark designators he went through the standard
> >procedure.  When it was done he found that several schematic symbols had
> >been arbitrarily moved to other pages and plopped down right in the
middle
> >of nowhere!  In addition, some existing symbols had been duplicated and
> >placed in arbitrary places on arbitrary pages.  Therefore, his solution
is
> >to simply go through all 12 pages of his schematic every time he
annotates
> >in order to correct DXP's errors (or should this be considered a
> >feature?).  Has anyone seen this behavior?
> >
> >Ray Mitchell
> >Engineer, Code 2732
> >SPAWAR Systems Center
> >San Diego, CA. 92152
> >(619)553-5344
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?

2004-03-18 Thread Ian Wilson
On 09:05 AM 18/03/2004, Ray Mitchell said:
I don't use DXP myself but a coworker here has no choice since 99SE won't 
work on WinXP.  Anyway, when it came time to annotate his schematic to get 
rid of all the question mark designators he went through the standard 
procedure.  When it was done he found that several schematic symbols had 
been arbitrarily moved to other pages and plopped down right in the middle 
of nowhere!  In addition, some existing symbols had been duplicated and 
placed in arbitrary places on arbitrary pages.  Therefore, his solution is 
to simply go through all 12 pages of his schematic every time he annotates 
in order to correct DXP's errors (or should this be considered a 
feature?).  Has anyone seen this behavior?
Since this list is frequented by lots of people *not* using DXP and happily 
saying so at every chance you will get a little more noise than if you 
asked your question on the Altium DXP forum. (http://forums.altium.com)

I know that there are some paranoid people that think that Altium will 
censor things, I haven't seen it happen except due to extreme 
rudeness.  There are plenty of very disparaging comments on the forum.  The 
main benefit for someone with a specific question is senior Altium people 
read and respond to questions.  If you have something that looks like a bug 
better report it.  I also know that this is a perfectly acceptable place to 
discuss DXP, it is just that you get direct access to the developers from 
the Altium forum and you problem sounds like a serious one to me.

I have not seen Sch parts move during annotation like you talk about.  Does 
it only happen to multi-part components?  There was some complaints (with 
good reason) about the annotation tool re-organising parts in multi-part 
components - not good.  A check box, "Don't Annotate Component", was added 
to help deal with this problem.

Ian



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Re: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?

2004-03-18 Thread Ray Mitchell
I'll  look at the DXP forum.  I didn't realize there was such a thing since 
so much DXP discussion goes on here.  Thanks.

At 10:17 AM 3/19/2004 +1100, you wrote:
On 09:05 AM 18/03/2004, Ray Mitchell said:
I don't use DXP myself but a coworker here has no choice since 99SE won't 
work on WinXP.  Anyway, when it came time to annotate his schematic to 
get rid of all the question mark designators he went through the standard 
procedure.  When it was done he found that several schematic symbols had 
been arbitrarily moved to other pages and plopped down right in the 
middle of nowhere!  In addition, some existing symbols had been 
duplicated and placed in arbitrary places on arbitrary pages.  Therefore, 
his solution is to simply go through all 12 pages of his schematic every 
time he annotates in order to correct DXP's errors (or should this be 
considered a feature?).  Has anyone seen this behavior?
Since this list is frequented by lots of people *not* using DXP and 
happily saying so at every chance you will get a little more noise than if 
you asked your question on the Altium DXP forum. (http://forums.altium.com)

I know that there are some paranoid people that think that Altium will 
censor things, I haven't seen it happen except due to extreme 
rudeness.  There are plenty of very disparaging comments on the 
forum.  The main benefit for someone with a specific question is senior 
Altium people read and respond to questions.  If you have something that 
looks like a bug better report it.  I also know that this is a perfectly 
acceptable place to discuss DXP, it is just that you get direct access to 
the developers from the Altium forum and you problem sounds like a serious 
one to me.

I have not seen Sch parts move during annotation like you talk 
about.  Does it only happen to multi-part components?  There was some 
complaints (with good reason) about the annotation tool re-organising 
parts in multi-part components - not good.  A check box, "Don't Annotate 
Component", was added to help deal with this problem.

Ian


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Re: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?

2004-03-18 Thread Dennis Saputelli
i wonder if it is the dreaded printer driver issue?

there was a recent thread on this but it was not XP centric

it is possible it is the same issue i suppose

Dennis Saputelli


Ray Mitchell wrote:
> 
> At 03:32 PM 3/17/2004 -0700, you wrote:
> >I don't have an answer for you regarding the DXP stuff. However, I am
> >running P99SE on WinXP. What did you mean by "won't work"?
> 
> I'm merely recounting what I've heard from other engineers here since I'm
> still using 99SE on Win2K myself.  Several of them have told me that 99SE
> either simply crashes the WinXP OS itself, or hangs up.  I've passed on to
> them the various group responses indicating that it should work fine so
> that they might possibly want to retry it.  I'm sure they'll be very happy
> if they can get it to work.  I've actually hesitated to switch to WinXP
> myself because I didn't want to switch to DXP.
> 
> >Darcy Davis
> >Design Engineer,
> >Dynastream Innovations, Inc.
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Ray Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: March 17, 2004 3:05 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?
> >
> >
> >I don't use DXP myself but a coworker here has no choice since 99SE won't
> >work on WinXP.  Anyway, when it came time to annotate his schematic to get
> >rid of all the question mark designators he went through the standard
> >procedure.  When it was done he found that several schematic symbols had
> >been arbitrarily moved to other pages and plopped down right in the middle
> >of nowhere!  In addition, some existing symbols had been duplicated and
> >placed in arbitrary places on arbitrary pages.  Therefore, his solution is
> >to simply go through all 12 pages of his schematic every time he annotates
> >in order to correct DXP's errors (or should this be considered a
> >feature?).  Has anyone seen this behavior?
> >
> >Ray Mitchell
> >Engineer, Code 2732
> >SPAWAR Systems Center
> >San Diego, CA. 92152
> >(619)553-5344
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Re: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?

2004-03-18 Thread Ray Mitchell
At 03:32 PM 3/17/2004 -0700, you wrote:
I don't have an answer for you regarding the DXP stuff. However, I am
running P99SE on WinXP. What did you mean by "won't work"?
I'm merely recounting what I've heard from other engineers here since I'm 
still using 99SE on Win2K myself.  Several of them have told me that 99SE 
either simply crashes the WinXP OS itself, or hangs up.  I've passed on to 
them the various group responses indicating that it should work fine so 
that they might possibly want to retry it.  I'm sure they'll be very happy 
if they can get it to work.  I've actually hesitated to switch to WinXP 
myself because I didn't want to switch to DXP.


Darcy Davis
Design Engineer,
Dynastream Innovations, Inc.
-Original Message-
From: Ray Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 17, 2004 3:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?
I don't use DXP myself but a coworker here has no choice since 99SE won't
work on WinXP.  Anyway, when it came time to annotate his schematic to get
rid of all the question mark designators he went through the standard
procedure.  When it was done he found that several schematic symbols had
been arbitrarily moved to other pages and plopped down right in the middle
of nowhere!  In addition, some existing symbols had been duplicated and
placed in arbitrary places on arbitrary pages.  Therefore, his solution is
to simply go through all 12 pages of his schematic every time he annotates
in order to correct DXP's errors (or should this be considered a
feature?).  Has anyone seen this behavior?
Ray Mitchell
Engineer, Code 2732
SPAWAR Systems Center
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Re: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?

2004-03-18 Thread Steve Smith
Can't help you with DXP but 99SE works fine on XP.

Steve Smith, C.I.D.
Product Engineer

Staco Energy Products Co. 
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> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: March 17, 2004 3:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?
> 
> 
> I don't use DXP myself but a coworker here has no choice 
> since 99SE won't 
> work on WinXP.  Anyway, when it came time to annotate his 
> schematic to get 
> rid of all the question mark designators he went through the standard 
> procedure.  When it was done he found that several schematic 
> symbols had 
> been arbitrarily moved to other pages and plopped down right 
> in the middle 
> of nowhere!  In addition, some existing symbols had been 
> duplicated and 
> placed in arbitrary places on arbitrary pages.  Therefore, 
> his solution is 
> to simply go through all 12 pages of his schematic every time 
> he annotates 
> in order to correct DXP's errors (or should this be considered a 
> feature?).  Has anyone seen this behavior?
> 
> Ray Mitchell
> Engineer, Code 2732
> SPAWAR Systems Center
> San Diego, CA. 92152
> (619)553-5344
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  


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Re: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?

2004-03-18 Thread Darcy Davis
I don't have an answer for you regarding the DXP stuff. However, I am
running P99SE on WinXP. What did you mean by "won't work"?

Darcy Davis
Design Engineer,
Dynastream Innovations, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 17, 2004 3:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?


I don't use DXP myself but a coworker here has no choice since 99SE won't 
work on WinXP.  Anyway, when it came time to annotate his schematic to get 
rid of all the question mark designators he went through the standard 
procedure.  When it was done he found that several schematic symbols had 
been arbitrarily moved to other pages and plopped down right in the middle 
of nowhere!  In addition, some existing symbols had been duplicated and 
placed in arbitrary places on arbitrary pages.  Therefore, his solution is 
to simply go through all 12 pages of his schematic every time he annotates 
in order to correct DXP's errors (or should this be considered a 
feature?).  Has anyone seen this behavior?

Ray Mitchell
Engineer, Code 2732
SPAWAR Systems Center
San Diego, CA. 92152
(619)553-5344
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

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Re: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?

2004-03-17 Thread Ray Mitchell
At 05:33 PM 3/17/2004 -0500, you wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Ray Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 5:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?
>I don't use DXP myself but a coworker here has no choice since 99SE won't
>work on WinXP.  Anyway, when it came time to annotate his schematic to get
99SE has been running fine on XP Pro here for ages.
That's encouraging to hear.  Many of the people here have not been able to 
get it to run.  In fact, many of them have gone back to Win2k just so they 
don't have to downgrade to DXP.  I'll pass this on to them.  Thanks.



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Dean
Ray Mitchell
Engineer, Code 2732
SPAWAR Systems Center
San Diego, CA. 92152
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[PEDA] A DXP annotation feature?

2004-03-17 Thread Ray Mitchell
I don't use DXP myself but a coworker here has no choice since 99SE won't 
work on WinXP.  Anyway, when it came time to annotate his schematic to get 
rid of all the question mark designators he went through the standard 
procedure.  When it was done he found that several schematic symbols had 
been arbitrarily moved to other pages and plopped down right in the middle 
of nowhere!  In addition, some existing symbols had been duplicated and 
placed in arbitrary places on arbitrary pages.  Therefore, his solution is 
to simply go through all 12 pages of his schematic every time he annotates 
in order to correct DXP's errors (or should this be considered a 
feature?).  Has anyone seen this behavior?

Ray Mitchell
Engineer, Code 2732
SPAWAR Systems Center
San Diego, CA. 92152
(619)553-5344
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

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