Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout
Colby, I can just confirm that your comments below are true and viable. This is the method which I use to panelize boards all the time within Protel. You will have duplicate designators and you will get same nets connecting between PCBs in the panelized version but there are no errors. One important caution, make sure that you have the "Keep Net Name" checkbox checked. This is particularly important if you 'might' possibly click to repour polygons as they are pasted. Without the "Keep Net Name" checked, if you repour the polygons then you are in for trouble, as you will have unconnected polygon pours. Brad Velander, Lead PCB Designer, Norsat International Inc., #300 - 4401 Still Creek Dr., Burnaby, B.C., V5C 6G9. Tel. (604) 292-9089 direct Fax (604) 292-9010 website www.norsat.com > -Original Message- > From: Colby - PowerStream [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 10:48 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout > > > I just copied a PCB, and used Paste Special and checked Keep > Net Name and > Duplicate Designator. > > I could see nowhere that this would cause an error on the PCB > due to using > the same designator twice... just Broken Net errors. > > There is an option in the preferences to Remove Duplicates... > I have this > turned off... but I am unsure if this would effect panelizing in this > way I didn't check. > > The only time I could see this being a problem is if you > needed to update it > from some later schematic changes... then just go back to one > single, update > it and check it... and paste it again when you are done. > > Make sure the single version is completely checked before you make the > panels. As long as you paste it the right way there should > be no need to > check it for errors after copying. > > -- > Colby Siemer** Custom Battery Chargers >** Custom Power Supplies > PowerStream Technology ** Custom UPS > 140 S. Mountainway Drive ** Custom DC/DC Converters > Orem Utah 84058 ** Power management > electronics for OEMs * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout
I just copied a PCB, and used Paste Special and checked Keep Net Name and Duplicate Designator. I could see nowhere that this would cause an error on the PCB due to using the same designator twice... just Broken Net errors. There is an option in the preferences to Remove Duplicates... I have this turned off... but I am unsure if this would effect panelizing in this way I didn't check. The only time I could see this being a problem is if you needed to update it from some later schematic changes... then just go back to one single, update it and check it... and paste it again when you are done. Make sure the single version is completely checked before you make the panels. As long as you paste it the right way there should be no need to check it for errors after copying. -- Colby Siemer** Custom Battery Chargers ** Custom Power Supplies PowerStream Technology ** Custom UPS 140 S. Mountainway Drive ** Custom DC/DC Converters Orem Utah 84058 ** Power management electronics for OEMs http://www.PowerStream.com - Original Message - From: "Saddle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout > But what about if you just want to add the same design a couple of times to > a PCB Panel. IS there a way to turn off the _1 extensions and ignore the > resulting same part name errors? This would be after doing all the checks on > the single instance version. > > Curious, > > Saddle (In the land of Oz) > "Whatever happened to Edit and Plot? I remember them fondly." > > > I am not sure if this is relevant to what you are trying to do > specifically... But if I remember correctly the reference to Complex > hierarchy in the manual actually refers to the way it worked in 98... I > don't have my manual handy to check. > > Either way... if you haven't looked at this KB article you may want to give > it a glance. It describes Complex hierarchy and the way the complex to > simple function works in 99 and 99SE. > > http://www.protel.com/earticles/complex_hier_P99.htm > > Regards, > -- > Colby Siemer** Custom Battery Chargers >** Custom Power Supplies > PowerStream Technology ** Custom UPS > 140 S. Mountainway Drive ** Custom DC/DC Converters > Orem Utah 84058 ** Power management electronics for OEMs > > http://www.PowerStream.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "Tim Hutcheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:55 AM > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout > > > > Thanks Colby. I'll try to follow that through as time goes by today. > Right > > now, I'm testing all that I can about multi-sheet and in particular the > > "complex" hierarchy method described in my manual. But not having any > luck > > so far as the Create Netlist method doesn't seem to create the second cpu > in > > the .net file yet. :o( Just a matter of time...and time...and time. > > > > regards, > > > > Tim Hutcheson > > Institute for Human and Machine Cognition > > 40 S. Alcaniz St. > > Pensacola, FL 32503 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ICQ# 32491889 > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout
But what about if you just want to add the same design a couple of times to a PCB Panel. IS there a way to turn off the _1 extensions and ignore the resulting same part name errors? This would be after doing all the checks on the single instance version. Curious, Saddle (In the land of Oz) "Whatever happened to Edit and Plot? I remember them fondly." I am not sure if this is relevant to what you are trying to do specifically... But if I remember correctly the reference to Complex hierarchy in the manual actually refers to the way it worked in 98... I don't have my manual handy to check. Either way... if you haven't looked at this KB article you may want to give it a glance. It describes Complex hierarchy and the way the complex to simple function works in 99 and 99SE. http://www.protel.com/earticles/complex_hier_P99.htm Regards, -- Colby Siemer** Custom Battery Chargers ** Custom Power Supplies PowerStream Technology ** Custom UPS 140 S. Mountainway Drive ** Custom DC/DC Converters Orem Utah 84058 ** Power management electronics for OEMs http://www.PowerStream.com - Original Message - From: "Tim Hutcheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout > Thanks Colby. I'll try to follow that through as time goes by today. Right > now, I'm testing all that I can about multi-sheet and in particular the > "complex" hierarchy method described in my manual. But not having any luck > so far as the Create Netlist method doesn't seem to create the second cpu in > the .net file yet. :o( Just a matter of time...and time...and time. > > regards, > > Tim Hutcheson > Institute for Human and Machine Cognition > 40 S. Alcaniz St. > Pensacola, FL 32503 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ# 32491889 > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout
This did work differently in Protel 98. But... I think you understand how it works now. I could be wrong, but I never could find a way to get the complex to simple to function like it did in Protel 98. If someone knows a way please share =) I think however it was done in Protel 98 was not ported over to Protel 99SE due to the different way that files are handled within the database. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I hope it saves you a little time from struggling and trying to get it to 'work right'. Regards, -- Colby Siemer** Custom Battery Chargers ** Custom Power Supplies PowerStream Technology ** Custom UPS 140 S. Mountainway Drive ** Custom DC/DC Converters Orem Utah 84058 ** Power management electronics for OEMs http://www.PowerStream.com - Original Message - From: "Tim Hutcheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout > So what's the point of all this complex hierarchy stuff if it doesn't add > the important bits automatically? As it stands I wind up maintaining two > flattened copies of the CPU section or maintaining one "complex hierarchy" > copy and having to manually edit all the designators when I flatten it. > Surely this isn't what they meant me to do, is it? > > regards, > > Tim Hutcheson > Institute for Human and Machine Cognition > 40 S. Alcaniz St. > Pensacola, FL 32503 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ# 32491889 > > -Original Message- > From: Colby - PowerStream [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 12:44 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout > > > Exactly =) > > In the article I pointed to one of the final lines is. > > "You must then annotate the design to ensure that all designators are > unique" > > Basically what this document tells you is how to copy the schematics, change > the name of the schematics, change the name of the sheet symbol, re-annotate > the schematic and then run the Complex to Simple process so you can turn the > 'Link' copy you made into a 'Real' copy of the file. > > You can accomplish the same thing by just making an actual 'Real' copy of > the file to begin with, then follow the same instructions and skip the part > where you run the Complex to Simple process.. since the file is an actual > copy and not a link there is no need to run the process. > > You really only need: > A copy of the schematic with a new name > Unique designators > And a sheet symbol to tie the new sheet in to the hierarchy. > > Regards, > -- > Colby Siemer** Custom Battery Chargers >** Custom Power Supplies > PowerStream Technology ** Custom UPS > 140 S. Mountainway Drive ** Custom DC/DC Converters > Orem Utah 84058 ** Power management electronics for OEMs > > http://www.PowerStream.com > > - Original Message - > From: "Tim Hutcheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 11:32 AM > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout > > > > Thanks for the link. So far, when I do the final step, "complex to > simple", > > it still creates a drawing similar to what I would have created by just > > copying the desired section of the schematic - with the same designators > > duplicated (U2 is U2 in both sub-sheets now). And when I create the > > netlist, I don't see the second CPU in the list - that is, the original > CPU > > is U2 and I see that defined and references to it. But there is no U2_1 > or > > such created in the netlist. In fact it seems to not know that the new > > "duplicate" sheet exists. > > > > regards, > > > > Tim Hutcheson > > Institute for Human and Machine Cognition > > 40 S. Alcaniz St. > > Pensacola, FL 32503 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ICQ# 32491889 > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Colby - PowerStream [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 11:57 AM > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout > > > > > > I am not sure if this is relevant to what you are trying to do > > specifically... But if I remember
Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout
So what's the point of all this complex hierarchy stuff if it doesn't add the important bits automatically? As it stands I wind up maintaining two flattened copies of the CPU section or maintaining one "complex hierarchy" copy and having to manually edit all the designators when I flatten it. Surely this isn't what they meant me to do, is it? regards, Tim Hutcheson Institute for Human and Machine Cognition 40 S. Alcaniz St. Pensacola, FL 32503 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 32491889 -Original Message- From: Colby - PowerStream [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 12:44 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout Exactly =) In the article I pointed to one of the final lines is. "You must then annotate the design to ensure that all designators are unique" Basically what this document tells you is how to copy the schematics, change the name of the schematics, change the name of the sheet symbol, re-annotate the schematic and then run the Complex to Simple process so you can turn the 'Link' copy you made into a 'Real' copy of the file. You can accomplish the same thing by just making an actual 'Real' copy of the file to begin with, then follow the same instructions and skip the part where you run the Complex to Simple process.. since the file is an actual copy and not a link there is no need to run the process. You really only need: A copy of the schematic with a new name Unique designators And a sheet symbol to tie the new sheet in to the hierarchy. Regards, -- Colby Siemer** Custom Battery Chargers ** Custom Power Supplies PowerStream Technology ** Custom UPS 140 S. Mountainway Drive ** Custom DC/DC Converters Orem Utah 84058 ** Power management electronics for OEMs http://www.PowerStream.com - Original Message - From: "Tim Hutcheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout > Thanks for the link. So far, when I do the final step, "complex to simple", > it still creates a drawing similar to what I would have created by just > copying the desired section of the schematic - with the same designators > duplicated (U2 is U2 in both sub-sheets now). And when I create the > netlist, I don't see the second CPU in the list - that is, the original CPU > is U2 and I see that defined and references to it. But there is no U2_1 or > such created in the netlist. In fact it seems to not know that the new > "duplicate" sheet exists. > > regards, > > Tim Hutcheson > Institute for Human and Machine Cognition > 40 S. Alcaniz St. > Pensacola, FL 32503 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ# 32491889 > > -Original Message- > From: Colby - PowerStream [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 11:57 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout > > > I am not sure if this is relevant to what you are trying to do > specifically... But if I remember correctly the reference to Complex > hierarchy in the manual actually refers to the way it worked in 98... I > don't have my manual handy to check. > > Either way... if you haven't looked at this KB article you may want to give > it a glance. It describes Complex hierarchy and the way the complex to > simple function works in 99 and 99SE. > > http://www.protel.com/earticles/complex_hier_P99.htm > > Regards, > -- > Colby Siemer** Custom Battery Chargers >** Custom Power Supplies > PowerStream Technology ** Custom UPS > 140 S. Mountainway Drive ** Custom DC/DC Converters > Orem Utah 84058 ** Power management electronics for OEMs > > http://www.PowerStream.com > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout
Exactly =) In the article I pointed to one of the final lines is. "You must then annotate the design to ensure that all designators are unique" Basically what this document tells you is how to copy the schematics, change the name of the schematics, change the name of the sheet symbol, re-annotate the schematic and then run the Complex to Simple process so you can turn the 'Link' copy you made into a 'Real' copy of the file. You can accomplish the same thing by just making an actual 'Real' copy of the file to begin with, then follow the same instructions and skip the part where you run the Complex to Simple process.. since the file is an actual copy and not a link there is no need to run the process. You really only need: A copy of the schematic with a new name Unique designators And a sheet symbol to tie the new sheet in to the hierarchy. Regards, -- Colby Siemer** Custom Battery Chargers ** Custom Power Supplies PowerStream Technology ** Custom UPS 140 S. Mountainway Drive ** Custom DC/DC Converters Orem Utah 84058 ** Power management electronics for OEMs http://www.PowerStream.com - Original Message - From: "Tim Hutcheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout > Thanks for the link. So far, when I do the final step, "complex to simple", > it still creates a drawing similar to what I would have created by just > copying the desired section of the schematic - with the same designators > duplicated (U2 is U2 in both sub-sheets now). And when I create the > netlist, I don't see the second CPU in the list - that is, the original CPU > is U2 and I see that defined and references to it. But there is no U2_1 or > such created in the netlist. In fact it seems to not know that the new > "duplicate" sheet exists. > > regards, > > Tim Hutcheson > Institute for Human and Machine Cognition > 40 S. Alcaniz St. > Pensacola, FL 32503 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ# 32491889 > > -Original Message----- > From: Colby - PowerStream [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 11:57 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout > > > I am not sure if this is relevant to what you are trying to do > specifically... But if I remember correctly the reference to Complex > hierarchy in the manual actually refers to the way it worked in 98... I > don't have my manual handy to check. > > Either way... if you haven't looked at this KB article you may want to give > it a glance. It describes Complex hierarchy and the way the complex to > simple function works in 99 and 99SE. > > http://www.protel.com/earticles/complex_hier_P99.htm > > Regards, > -- > Colby Siemer** Custom Battery Chargers >** Custom Power Supplies > PowerStream Technology ** Custom UPS > 140 S. Mountainway Drive ** Custom DC/DC Converters > Orem Utah 84058 ** Power management electronics for OEMs > > http://www.PowerStream.com > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout
Thanks for the link. So far, when I do the final step, "complex to simple", it still creates a drawing similar to what I would have created by just copying the desired section of the schematic - with the same designators duplicated (U2 is U2 in both sub-sheets now). And when I create the netlist, I don't see the second CPU in the list - that is, the original CPU is U2 and I see that defined and references to it. But there is no U2_1 or such created in the netlist. In fact it seems to not know that the new "duplicate" sheet exists. regards, Tim Hutcheson Institute for Human and Machine Cognition 40 S. Alcaniz St. Pensacola, FL 32503 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 32491889 -Original Message- From: Colby - PowerStream [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 11:57 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout I am not sure if this is relevant to what you are trying to do specifically... But if I remember correctly the reference to Complex hierarchy in the manual actually refers to the way it worked in 98... I don't have my manual handy to check. Either way... if you haven't looked at this KB article you may want to give it a glance. It describes Complex hierarchy and the way the complex to simple function works in 99 and 99SE. http://www.protel.com/earticles/complex_hier_P99.htm Regards, -- Colby Siemer** Custom Battery Chargers ** Custom Power Supplies PowerStream Technology ** Custom UPS 140 S. Mountainway Drive ** Custom DC/DC Converters Orem Utah 84058 ** Power management electronics for OEMs http://www.PowerStream.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout
I am not sure if this is relevant to what you are trying to do specifically... But if I remember correctly the reference to Complex hierarchy in the manual actually refers to the way it worked in 98... I don't have my manual handy to check. Either way... if you haven't looked at this KB article you may want to give it a glance. It describes Complex hierarchy and the way the complex to simple function works in 99 and 99SE. http://www.protel.com/earticles/complex_hier_P99.htm Regards, -- Colby Siemer** Custom Battery Chargers ** Custom Power Supplies PowerStream Technology ** Custom UPS 140 S. Mountainway Drive ** Custom DC/DC Converters Orem Utah 84058 ** Power management electronics for OEMs http://www.PowerStream.com - Original Message - From: "Tim Hutcheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout > Thanks Colby. I'll try to follow that through as time goes by today. Right > now, I'm testing all that I can about multi-sheet and in particular the > "complex" hierarchy method described in my manual. But not having any luck > so far as the Create Netlist method doesn't seem to create the second cpu in > the .net file yet. :o( Just a matter of time...and time...and time. > > regards, > > Tim Hutcheson > Institute for Human and Machine Cognition > 40 S. Alcaniz St. > Pensacola, FL 32503 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ# 32491889 > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout
Thanks Colby. I'll try to follow that through as time goes by today. Right now, I'm testing all that I can about multi-sheet and in particular the "complex" hierarchy method described in my manual. But not having any luck so far as the Create Netlist method doesn't seem to create the second cpu in the .net file yet. :o( Just a matter of time...and time...and time. regards, Tim Hutcheson Institute for Human and Machine Cognition 40 S. Alcaniz St. Pensacola, FL 32503 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 32491889 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout
Well, here is what I thought of Rather than pasting it into ths same PCB file create a copy of the PCB file and open the new copy. And paste your corresponding section into a new schematic as you did... but leave it out of the hierarchy for the first part of this. Close the original schematic and PCB. Check the Synchronization on the two new documents(this should also serve the purpose of making sure the proper components are 'linked' to each other) Re-annotate the Schematic to use a new designtator series.(In the Advanced section of the Annotation process) Now Update the new copy of the PCB to change all the designators to match the re-annotation and update any nets that may have changed names due to the annotation. Now if you need to move the new copy of the PCB anywhere else(like back to the original PCB document). First select it all, then copy it to the clipboard. Leaving the PCB file you are copying from Open, go to the PCB file you want to paste it into. Instead of doing a normal Ctrl+V Paste, go to Edit-->Paste Special. Here you will have the option to Duplicate Designator(Suppress the adding of the _1 suffix), and Keep Net Name(so that all net information is retained in the selection). Now, even if the new PCB is on the same file as the original, you should be able to plug the new schematic into the hierarchy and synchronize and all designators should match up. I didn't actually test to see if this works... but it should do the trick. There may be an easier way as well... but this is what popped into my head when I saw the question. I hope that it helps. -- Colby Siemer** Custom Battery Chargers ** Custom Power Supplies PowerStream Technology ** Custom UPS 140 S. Mountainway Drive ** Custom DC/DC Converters Orem Utah 84058 ** Power management electronics for OEMs http://www.PowerStream.com - Original Message - From: "Tim Hutcheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 7:50 AM Subject: [PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout > Today I tried to duplicate a section of a dual-cpu board, call it CPU1 (with > all its associated parts.) When I do that on the PCB, each part of the > duplicated pcb layout has a _1 suffixed to it. Fine. Now for the purpose > of duplicating the schematic representation of that, I copied the > corresponding schematic section onto a new sheet (part of a multi-sheet > project) expecting P99SE to create the same suffixed relationship of the new > parts, which would be fine for my purpose as I expected to renumber and > synchronize later. However I couldn't reproduce the PCB behavior in copying > the parts, that is, no _1 suffixes. The motivation is to create a > synchronizable match between the PCB and SCH layouts which can then be > renumbered. > > So how does one do this correctly? > > > regards, > Tim Hutcheson > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Duplicating pieces of a layout
Today I tried to duplicate a section of a dual-cpu board, call it CPU1 (with all its associated parts.) When I do that on the PCB, each part of the duplicated pcb layout has a _1 suffixed to it. Fine. Now for the purpose of duplicating the schematic representation of that, I copied the corresponding schematic section onto a new sheet (part of a multi-sheet project) expecting P99SE to create the same suffixed relationship of the new parts, which would be fine for my purpose as I expected to renumber and synchronize later. However I couldn't reproduce the PCB behavior in copying the parts, that is, no _1 suffixes. The motivation is to create a synchronizable match between the PCB and SCH layouts which can then be renumbered. So how does one do this correctly? regards, Tim Hutcheson [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * - or email - * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=leave%20proteledaforum * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
