[PEDA] Problems With Gerbers Generated With Protel 99SE SP5......

2001-05-07 Thread John Branthoover

Hello all,
I was just in the process of going over some gerbers for our latest board
design.  I was looking at Mid Layer 1, where in my design I have placed
circular traces (8 mil wide tied to a internal ground plane with 30 mil
diameter pad with a 15 mil hole) around areas where summing junctions of OP
Amps pass from the top of the board to the bottom of the board.

I noticed that in some cases there were some pads missing.  Some of these
guards have pads connecting them to an internal plane and some just have a
drill hit.  No pad what so ever.  The pads are there in all cases when I
look at the PCB in Protel.

Has any one else seen this phenomenon?  Shouldn't there be a pad everywhere
there is a trace that passes through the board even on in internal signal
layer?

Thank you for your time and have a nice day.



John Branthoover:
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Re: [PEDA] Problems With Gerbers Generated With Protel 99SE SP5......

2001-05-07 Thread BOB JONES

I'm wondering if the missing pads are ones that end on an arc? I've seen
this with SP5, any trace that ends in an arc and has a via at the end will
not show up on mid layers on the gerbers. SP6 supposedly fixes this. A fix
for SP5 is to add a small trace (one that doesn't go past the via) on the
same layer as the arc. This has worked for me.


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Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 4:58 PM
Subject: [PEDA] Problems With Gerbers Generated With Protel 99SE SP5..


 Hello all,
 I was just in the process of going over some gerbers for our latest board
 design.  I was looking at Mid Layer 1, where in my design I have placed
 circular traces (8 mil wide tied to a internal ground plane with 30 mil
 diameter pad with a 15 mil hole) around areas where summing junctions of
OP
 Amps pass from the top of the board to the bottom of the board.

 I noticed that in some cases there were some pads missing.  Some of these
 guards have pads connecting them to an internal plane and some just have a
 drill hit.  No pad what so ever.  The pads are there in all cases when I
 look at the PCB in Protel.

 Has any one else seen this phenomenon?  Shouldn't there be a pad
everywhere
 there is a trace that passes through the board even on in internal signal
 layer?

 Thank you for your time and have a nice day.



 John Branthoover:
 Electrical Design Engineer  :
 Acutronic  R  D:Phone  (412) 968-1051
 137/139 Delta Drive :Fax(412) 963-0519
 Pittsburgh PA 15238 :Email  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 USA :WEBhttp://www.acutronic.com






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Re: [PEDA] Problems With Gerbers Generated With Protel 99SE SP5......

2001-05-07 Thread Geoff Harland

 I was just in the process of going over some gerbers for our latest board
 design.  I was looking at Mid Layer 1, where in my design I have placed
 circular traces (8 mil wide tied to a internal ground plane with 30 mil
 diameter pad with a 15 mil hole) around areas where summing junctions of
OP
 Amps pass from the top of the board to the bottom of the board.

 I noticed that in some cases there were some pads missing.  Some of these
 guards have pads connecting them to an internal plane and some just have a
 drill hit.  No pad what so ever.  The pads are there in all cases when I
 look at the PCB in Protel.

 Has any one else seen this phenomenon?  Shouldn't there be a pad
everywhere
 there is a trace that passes through the board even on in internal signal
 layer?

 John Branthoover

I suspect that the option of including unconnected mid layer pads has not
been selected. I don't have Protel 99 SE open at present, but in the CAM
Manager server, the dialog box provided for setting up Gerber files has a
number of tabs, and on one of those, there is a checkbox provided for
controlling that setting. Check that checkbox and then re-generate your
Gerber files.

Regards,
Geoff Harland.
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Re: [PEDA] Problems With Gerbers Generated With Protel 99SE SP5......

2001-05-07 Thread Ian Middleton

Yes with 99SE and SP5 I have seen inner layer gerbers with a pad missing.
Luckily this was spotted during error checking of Gerbers by our PCB
manufacturer and the missing pad added at Gerber level.

No matter how hard we tried we could not get the pad to appear. Even trying
different machines and setups, pad missing.

Using SP6 though all pads present. So update to SP6 and try again.

regards
Ian

 -Original Message-
 From: John Branthoover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 29 March 2001 21:58
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 Subject: [PEDA] Problems With Gerbers Generated With Protel 99SE
 SP5..


 Hello all,
   I was just in the process of going over some gerbers for
 our latest board
 design.  I was looking at Mid Layer 1, where in my design I have placed
 circular traces (8 mil wide tied to a internal ground plane with 30 mil
 diameter pad with a 15 mil hole) around areas where summing
 junctions of OP
 Amps pass from the top of the board to the bottom of the board.

   I noticed that in some cases there were some pads missing.
 Some of these
 guards have pads connecting them to an internal plane and some just have a
 drill hit.  No pad what so ever.  The pads are there in all cases when I
 look at the PCB in Protel.

   Has any one else seen this phenomenon?  Shouldn't there be
 a pad everywhere
 there is a trace that passes through the board even on in internal signal
 layer?

   Thank you for your time and have a nice day.



 John Branthoover:
 Electrical Design Engineer  :
 Acutronic  R  D:Phone  (412) 968-1051
 137/139 Delta Drive :Fax(412) 963-0519
 Pittsburgh PA 15238 :Email  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 USA :WEBhttp://www.acutronic.com





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