Re: [PEDA] Protel 1.61
Re: [PEDA] Protel 1.61
Re: [PEDA] Protel 1.61
At 10:29 AM 4/6/2002 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >[...]In any case, does anybody have an early Windows based version that >they would like to sell? Something close to the old 1.61 I had so I can >at keep running without having to learn too much and without spending $4000. Others have given possible solutions to the Autotrax problem of this user, my comment here is about the issue of Autotrax licenses. Altium has stated that they consider that upgraded licenses travel with the older license. I.e., they have claimed that if you give away or sell your older, upgraded license, you have given away or sold your new license. While it might be difficult to enforce (i.e., I'd think Altium might have trouble suing for copyright infringement or having someone prosecuted for such if one sold an older license and kept the newer) you might very well be setting up a situation where Altium would refuse to give an upgrade discount. To my knowledge, they are under no legal obligation to give such discounts, though obviously if they generally charged the same for a new license as for an upgrade to it, they'd face a user revolt and/or loss of sales. Note that this user wants to avoid spending $4000, not $8000. I can certainly understand. But the $4000 figure is what an upgrade costs for an older Protel user (everything before Protel 98, if I am correct). That means that the older license, if it has not been used for upgrade, would save someone who buys it up to $4000, depending on current specials being offered. Such an older license is worth *at least* $1000, that's what I'd offer for it, and I'd expect to make money reselling Helping an older license user recover a damaged file, though, should not be a problem. BTW, what I think of when trying to run these older DOS licenses is video drivers. Sometimes the old video drivers were card-specific, and they could very well be a problem. I know that with Tango DOS it is generally necessary to used a patched driver instead of what what was supplied originally, to get it to run under W9X and later. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel 1.61
Hi, I don't have protel 1.61, but some other experience may worth a try. Normally, a file copied from CD to hard drive will be Read-Only. You must clear the attribute to work on it. Have you tried cleaning the Read-Only attribute of all files you copied back to hard drive? -Original Message- From: Robert Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 2002年4月6日 21:07 To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel 1.61 John, Have a looke here. Easytrax may help you. http://www.electronicsaustralia.com.au/cgi-bin/downloads.pl?area=7 I suspect that there are a number of other sites from which you can download Easytrax (or Autotrax). This was the first one I found in a Google search for Autotrax. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've been using Protel Autotrax 1.61 for years. My old computer died but the computer repair people were able to copy my hard drive to CD. But the old DOS version of Protel on the CD won't run on my "good" computer running Windows 95. If I re-boot in DOS, Protel will start but gives an error message then another (#103 I think). I can then load the PCB file I want but when I try to place a component it can't find the library. I can see the LIB file in the directory but it won't LOAD. I've been told that DOS in Win95 is not a "full DOS" and that may be the problem. Or Protel got damaged in the crash (keyboard input section went bad) or it didn't copy to the CD correctly. > > In any case, does anybody have an early Windows based version that they would like to sell? Something close to the old 1.61 I had so I can at keep running without having to learn too much and without spending $4000. > > Thanks in advance. > John Echols > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel 1.61
Just a shot in the dark, but it's possible that the errors you get are due to files having their read-only attribute set, after copying from the CD. I've had a few strange things happen due to that (not with Autotrax, just in general). Maybe useful. Steve. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel 1.61
John Be waryof easytrax and hole sizes. It works the same as autotrax but embeds dummy hole sizes for the NC file. So if you want to get the boards done by a fab house you will have to give them a drill guide. Ian - Original Message - From: "Robert Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel 1.61 > John, > > Have a looke here. Easytrax may help you. > http://www.electronicsaustralia.com.au/cgi-bin/downloads.pl?area=7 > > I suspect that there are a number of other sites from which you can > download Easytrax (or Autotrax). This was the first one I found in a > Google search for Autotrax. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I've been using Protel Autotrax 1.61 for years. My old computer died but the computer repair people were able to copy my hard drive to CD. But the old DOS version of Protel on the CD won't run on my "good" computer running Windows 95. If I re-boot in DOS, Protel will start but gives an error message then another (#103 I think). I can then load the PCB file I want but when I try to place a component it can't find the library. I can see the LIB file in the directory but it won't LOAD. I've been told that DOS in Win95 is not a "full DOS" and that may be the problem. Or Protel got damaged in the crash (keyboard input section went bad) or it didn't copy to the CD correctly. > > > > In any case, does anybody have an early Windows based version that they would like to sell? Something close to the old 1.61 I had so I can at keep running without having to learn too much and without spending $4000. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > John Echols > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel 1.61
John, Have a looke here. Easytrax may help you. http://www.electronicsaustralia.com.au/cgi-bin/downloads.pl?area=7 I suspect that there are a number of other sites from which you can download Easytrax (or Autotrax). This was the first one I found in a Google search for Autotrax. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've been using Protel Autotrax 1.61 for years. My old computer died but the >computer repair people were able to copy my hard drive to CD. But the old DOS >version of Protel on the CD won't run on my "good" computer running Windows 95. If I >re-boot in DOS, Protel will start but gives an error message then another (#103 I >think). I can then load the PCB file I want but when I try to place a component it >can't find the library. I can see the LIB file in the directory but it won't LOAD. >I've been told that DOS in Win95 is not a "full DOS" and that may be the problem. Or >Protel got damaged in the crash (keyboard input section went bad) or it didn't copy >to the CD correctly. > > In any case, does anybody have an early Windows based version that they would like >to sell? Something close to the old 1.61 I had so I can at keep running without >having to learn too much and without spending $4000. > > Thanks in advance. > John Echols > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
[PEDA] Protel 1.61
I've been using Protel Autotrax 1.61 for years. My old computer died but the computer repair people were able to copy my hard drive to CD. But the old DOS version of Protel on the CD won't run on my "good" computer running Windows 95. If I re-boot in DOS, Protel will start but gives an error message then another (#103 I think). I can then load the PCB file I want but when I try to place a component it can't find the library. I can see the LIB file in the directory but it won't LOAD. I've been told that DOS in Win95 is not a "full DOS" and that may be the problem. Or Protel got damaged in the crash (keyboard input section went bad) or it didn't copy to the CD correctly. In any case, does anybody have an early Windows based version that they would like to sell? Something close to the old 1.61 I had so I can at keep running without having to learn too much and without spending $4000. Thanks in advance. John Echols * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
