Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access
Matt, > Strange thing, first time I run Protel after I edit the ini file, > it kills the splash screen -- as expected. But if I shut down > Protel and open it again -- viola! the splash screen is back and > the ini file has the "DisplaySplashScreen=False" line removed. > Could it be were in the ini file you place the string that is causing it to be deleted. The string "DisplaySplashScreen=False" is in the ini file, you should not have to add it just change it to "False". Client99SE.INI *** snip Dialog Font Underline=False Dialog Font StrikeOut=False DisplaySplashScreen=False [Open Window 1] Name=D>MSACCESS:$RP>C:\Protel99\System$RN>Templates.Ddb$OP>$ON>Root$ID>1 $ATTR>0$E>Folder$STF> MinX=-1 MinY=-1 MaxX=-4 *** snip I just changed it and opened and closed 99 and the splash screen is gone. My setup opened very quick before I removed the splash screen it only took a couple of seconds to open including 3 DDB files. Hard to tell how much faster it is. Mind you on my old machine it was very slow to open which is why I took so long to start using 99. It was a PII 300 with 128Meg the new machine (now 18 months old) is a PIII 800, 512Meg and ATA100 7200 rpm drives. Darren * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access
On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:37:58 +1100, Robert Mitchell wrote: >He possibly had Protel running when he edited the file. Protel >will then change the .ini file back when closing. > Nope, had Protel shutdown and edited it with my favorite programming editor. I also tried booting from a DOS disk and editing it with edit.com too! Strange thing, first time I run Protel after I edit the ini file, it kills the splash screen -- as expected. But if I shut down Protel and open it again -- viola! the splash screen is back and the ini file has the "DisplaySplashScreen=False" line removed. Very strange stuff... Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access
Make sure prottle isn't running when you edit the .ini Cheers Don - Original Message - From: Ian Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Protel EDA Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access > On 04:07 PM 20/11/2001 -0600, Matt Pobursky said: > >I've tried this repeated times and Protel always rewrites the ini > >file when it closes and removes the "offending" line... :-( > > > >Matt Pobursky > >Maximum Performance Systems > > Interesting - for me, the > DisplaySplashScreen=False > line is persistent - and is so on all the machines of clients that I have > suggested it to. > > I wonder what the difference is? > > Ian Wilson > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access
He possibly had Protel running when he edited the file. Protel will then change the .ini file back when closing. Ian Wilson wrote: > > On 04:07 PM 20/11/2001 -0600, Matt Pobursky said: > >I've tried this repeated times and Protel always rewrites the ini > >file when it closes and removes the "offending" line... :-( > > > >Matt Pobursky > >Maximum Performance Systems > > Interesting - for me, the > DisplaySplashScreen=False > line is persistent - and is so on all the machines of clients that I have > suggested it to. > > I wonder what the difference is? > > Ian Wilson -- Ipse Video Pty. Ltd. PO Box 68 Phone (+61 2) 9449 4736 (21 Hudson Close) Fax (+61 2) 9449 1976 Turramurra, 2074Mobile 0411554117 NSW, Australia Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access
On 04:07 PM 20/11/2001 -0600, Matt Pobursky said: >I've tried this repeated times and Protel always rewrites the ini >file when it closes and removes the "offending" line... :-( > >Matt Pobursky >Maximum Performance Systems Interesting - for me, the DisplaySplashScreen=False line is persistent - and is so on all the machines of clients that I have suggested it to. I wonder what the difference is? Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access
On 08:33 AM 21/11/2001 +1300, Brendon Slade said: >Something that came up on this forum a wee while ago speeds the startup by >not showing the splashscreen. > >Get out your scalpel and open up Client99SE.INI, found in C:\WINNT (if >you're running NT, otherwise you'll have to hunt it down). In the section >labelled: >[System Preferences] > insert the following text on a new line: >DisplaySplashScreen=False > >It makes a bit of a difference. > >HTH >Brendon. While you are at it prune the number of closed databases down by cleaning up the old entries from [Closed Files List] section of the same file. Protel does not use the registry a great deal to store it settings. So the 12000 registry accesses requires a little thinking. Protel *does* use OLE technology and this no doubt is a heavy user of the registry, but also, due to a technique that MS put in to the Win32 API (from memory), it is possible to map accesses to the registry to an ini file. So it is possible (speculation here) that some/most/all of the 12000 registry accesses during startup are mapped through to the ini files. So keeping the ini files as clean as possible may be helpful. I have found that disabling McAfee Virus Scan from scanning ini files as they are opened helps - I am going off McAfee big time. I tried to report a possible unknown virus and got the complete and utter run around from a twit that said they don't support my version (even though the do still produce DAT files for it.) I know others that also have problems with McAfee and Protel - sometime McAfee starts to hog 99% of CPU time and everything comes to an end. In fact it may not be just Protel but more generally a Borland Delphi interaction as it sometimes happens when running Delphi (which I *hate* with a vengeance both the language and the UI, but use to develop Protel servers and support some clients code). Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access
I've tried this repeated times and Protel always rewrites the ini file when it closes and removes the "offending" line... :-( Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 08:33:21 +1300, Brendon Slade wrote: >Something that came up on this forum a wee while ago speeds the >startup by >not showing the splashscreen. > >Get out your scalpel and open up Client99SE.INI, found in >C:\WINNT (if >you're running NT, otherwise you'll have to hunt it down). In >the section >labelled: >[System Preferences] > insert the following text on a new line: >DisplaySplashScreen=False > >It makes a bit of a difference. > >HTH >Brendon. > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access
Something that came up on this forum a wee while ago speeds the startup by not showing the splashscreen. Get out your scalpel and open up Client99SE.INI, found in C:\WINNT (if you're running NT, otherwise you'll have to hunt it down). In the section labelled: [System Preferences] insert the following text on a new line: DisplaySplashScreen=False It makes a bit of a difference. HTH Brendon. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 3:34 AM Subject: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access > > Probably a whole separate issue, when attempting to troubleshoot the above > problem by watching registry access, I discovered that Protel accesses the > registry approximately 12,000 times between program startup and the time it's > ready to run. This must surely account for at least some of the long delay in > getting down to business. Is there any way to suppress some of this activity > to get a snappier startup? Protel, are you listening - the startup and > shutdown sluggishness has been a long-time gripe, even if it's been mostly > written off as inevitable now. > > Steve Hendrix * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access
At 09:34 AM 11/20/01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I'm still trying now and then to debug the font problem on my installation of >Protel. Ever since I upgraded to a 21" monitor at 1600x1200, certain fonts >are screwed up, most notably the Layers dialog box and the help system index. I'm running the same size monitor and resolution and have no problem with those fonts. I think there are Windows settings that could affect this, such as small fonts/large fonts, and there are Protel font options, but it was stated that many attempts had been made to fix those without success. The only other thing that comes to mind is the possibility of a corrupted or misnamed Windows font file or some other bad installation. Uninstalling/reinstalling was not mentioned. I hate to suggest a Windows reinstallation, but However, doing a full Protel uninstall (including removing the ini files in Windows/System) and then reinstalling Protel might at least rule out a bad installation. If possible another CD should be used, or maybe the demo. The original ini files could be moved elsewhere instead of being deleted, if one has customizations one wants to keep. Then they could be traded back when desired. If the trading back causes a problem that was fixed by the reinstallation, we would then know that at least some of the difficulty was in the ini files. Trying a lower resolution on the monitor would also provide some information, and I would think that there could also be a video card/video driver problem. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abdulrahman Lomax Easthampton, Massachusetts USA * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access
Re: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access
I'm still trying now and then to debug the font problem on my installation of Protel. Ever since I upgraded to a 21" monitor at 1600x1200, certain fonts are screwed up, most notably the Layers dialog box and the help system index. I have been all over the settings within Protel, as well as all the Windows display settings, to no avail. I can see a change in certain fonts when I I have seen this with Large Fonts set in the display adapter properties. Of course in order to read normal text you then need to play with all the other fonts which is a pain. It appears Protel always assumes the fonts are at 100% not the 125% that the Large Fonts gives. Playing with the Windows appearance settings I can usually get it so that only the less annoying dialog boxes are unreadable (like autorouter progress). problem by watching registry access, I discovered that Protel accesses the registry approximately 12,000 times between program startup and the time it's ready to run. This must surely account for at least some of the long delay in Is this the registry itself or all INI files? I've found that turning off virusscan of INI files speeds it up a whole lot, but I haven't found that many registry entries for Protel. Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/20/2001 09:34:33 AM Please respond to "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: (bcc: Rob LaMoreaux/DSPT) Subject: [PEDA] Protel Fonts and Registry Access I'm still trying now and then to debug the font problem on my installation of Protel. Ever since I upgraded to a 21" monitor at 1600x1200, certain fonts are screwed up, most notably the Layers dialog box and the help system index. I have been all over the settings within Protel, as well as all the Windows display settings, to no avail. I can see a change in certain fonts when I change the setting for "use client system fonts", and also when I change the client system font. None of that, however, seems to affect the help index (the index on other Windows help systems is just fine). Also, though it changes the font used in the Layer dialog box, it doesn't resize the dialog box properly - layer names are chopped off, and only the first three copper layers (for instance) are visible without scrolling. Despite many attempts for list members to help, I have basically written off the help files as useless on this system, and I just live with the need to know layer names and to scroll them into view on the Layer dialog box. Probably a whole separate issue, when attempting to troubleshoot the above problem by watching registry access, I discovered that Protel accesses the registry approximately 12,000 times between program startup and the time it's ready to run. This must surely account for at least some of the long delay in getting down to business. Is there any way to suppress some of this activity to get a snappier startup? Protel, are you listening - the startup and shutdown sluggishness has been a long-time gripe, even if it's been mostly written off as inevitable now. Steve Hendrix * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
