[PEDA] performance vs. processor usage
Hi all, I hope I'm not bothering everyone with the same problem for too long here, but I may be getting closer to a solution to my performance problem. While looking at the SYSTEM MONITOR I noticed that my slow computer is showing a processor usage of 100% all the time. I've closed everything I can and it still shows 100%. The other faster computer has this fluctuating between 7% and 31% with a minimal of things running. I'm disconnected from the network, and there is no virus software running. Does this give anyone ideas? I haven't been able to look into today's posts for answers but thought I'd throw this out there. Bob Jones Digitized Technologies 2 Summit Road P.O.Box 7284 Prospect, CT. 06712-1541 Tel: 203-758-6312 Fax: 203-758-3338 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] performance vs. processor usage
On 04:59 PM 18/02/2002 -0500, Bob Jones said: Hi all, I hope I'm not bothering everyone with the same problem for too long here, but I may be getting closer to a solution to my performance problem. While looking at the SYSTEM MONITOR I noticed that my slow computer is showing a processor usage of 100% all the time. I've closed everything I can and it still shows 100%. The other faster computer has this fluctuating between 7% and 31% with a minimal of things running. I'm disconnected from the network, and there is no virus software running. Does this give anyone ideas? I haven't been able to look into today's posts for answers but thought I'd throw this out there. Is Protel running? And have you mentioned which Protel service pack you are running? The floating license method that Protel was using used to cause 100% processor usage but at low priority. So even though the processor was running at 100% the responsiveness of the machine was not drastically affected. This was changed in one of the later service packs (SP5 or SP6?). If Protel is not running, maybe test this after a clean boot, then I would certainly investigate more. I have had McAfee antivirus stuff lockup taking 99% of CPU time (under Win2k and NT you can see which process is using what) but this is quite noticeable as the whole machine basically slows to a crawl. I have been watching this thread and my thoughts come back to the network and the possibility your network is not working well. What network clients have you got setup (TCP/IP only, NetBEUI and TCP/IP ?) Is this the same for both machines? Which protocol is set to the default (and is it the same on both machines). To reduce DNS queries with TCP have you got the lmhosts and/or hosts files setup? This is an area I am no expert in but I know my small network now works *much* better since I sorted out the defaults and the lmhosts and hosts files - one day I may even read a little to figure out what I did. But, simply removing the network connection may make things worse or not make any difference. I have seen pauses in the responsiveness of Win 98 due to an adapter not being configured well and unplugged from the network. The system was still making some sort of request to the network adapter that then stole CPU cycles until it timed out in some fashion. This was some time ago so don't push too hard for the details - and I can't even say if it affected Protel at all. I think you have got major configuration issues or there is something about your work practices that are triggering some odd behavior. I remember Jason Morgan having similar problems - hugely long delays when moving components and component text. But it is something most of us are not seeing. I get the feeling that we are sniffing around the edges of a fairly significant bug or series of interactions that cause Protel to run really slowly - it would be great to get to the bottom of it. Ian Wilson * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] performance vs. processor usage
While watching the system monitor, try stopping all servers (except the pcb server) one at a time to see if they are chewing up any processor time. Do this by going to the Protel system menu (big grey down pointing arrow on far left side of menu bar) and selecting Servers... Right click in the window of the dialog that pops up and select View Details. This will show all the installed servers and which ones are currently running. Right click on the server name (left side) and select Stop to stop that server. If stopping the AutoSave server fixes the problem, check its settings in the Protel system preferences menu (grey arrow Preferences, Auto-Save Settings button). A low time interval or a network save location could be the cause of the problem. If only the pcb server is running and you are still getting 100% CPU times, then it may be due to a background Robot process in the pcb server. The Robots do background tasks such as keeping track of connectivity, online DRC, etc. These can be affected by the design file as well as the Protel configuration files. Try changing design files (empty or Protel sample file) to see if that alters the behavior. If not, try a clean install of Protel to see if it is a configuration file problem (see previous post). John Williams Bob Jones wrote: Hi all, I hope I'm not bothering everyone with the same problem for too long here, but I may be getting closer to a solution to my performance problem. While looking at the SYSTEM MONITOR I noticed that my slow computer is showing a processor usage of 100% all the time. I've closed everything I can and it still shows 100%. The other faster computer has this fluctuating between 7% and 31% with a minimal of things running. I'm disconnected from the network, and there is no virus software running. Does this give anyone ideas? I haven't been able to look into today's posts for answers but thought I'd throw this out there. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] performance vs. processor usage
At 04:59 PM 2/18/2002 -0500, Bob Jones wrote: I hope I'm not bothering everyone with the same problem for too long here, but I may be getting closer to a solution to my performance problem. While looking at the SYSTEM MONITOR I noticed that my slow computer is showing a processor usage of 100% all the time. I've closed everything I can and it still shows 100%. The other faster computer has this fluctuating between 7% and 31% with a minimal of things running. I'm disconnected from the network, and there is no virus software running. Does this give anyone ideas? First of all, is it only doing this when Protel is open? What programs are running? (Hit Ctrl-Alt-Delete to get the Task Manager or I forget what it is called in W98, exercise caution). I believe it was mentioned that this computer is a server. It may be trying to do something over the network, and pulling the network plug could have no effect. But you should be able to see something in the list of running programs. Don't try this when you have work open, but you could try ending one of the programs at a time through the Task Manager, while you watch the system monitor. Ending some programs might crash your system, as I recall, I can't tell you which ones off the top of my head. But the worst thing that will happen -- assuming you have no important work open -- is that you will need to reset the system. Protel may run very slowly when the system is at 100% CPU usage, so the problem has been reduced to finding out what is using so much CPU time. I just loaded a reasonably large Protel file while watching the CPU usage from the W2000 Task Manager performance tab. It hit 100% but only for a moment. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abdulrahman Lomax Easthampton, Massachusetts USA * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] performance vs. processor usage
What do you see running when you CTRL-ALT-DEL you system? (one time I mean) You should see a list of apps running. Can you identify anything you don't expect to see in there? Yes, there will be lots of OS crap you probably won't be able to identify, but that goes for most of us I would imagine. Can you configure most of the stuff in your tray so it doesn't load a startup? It's way easier if you're using NT or Win2000 because it shows a process list AND the CPU time each one is taking. Tony -Original Message- From: Bob Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 2:00 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] performance vs. processor usage Hi all, I hope I'm not bothering everyone with the same problem for too long here, but I may be getting closer to a solution to my performance problem. While looking at the SYSTEM MONITOR I noticed that my slow computer is showing a processor usage of 100% all the time. I've closed everything I can and it still shows 100%. The other faster computer has this fluctuating between 7% and 31% with a minimal of things running. I'm disconnected from the network, and there is no virus software running. Does this give anyone ideas? I haven't been able to look into today's posts for answers but thought I'd throw this out there. Bob Jones Digitized Technologies 2 Summit Road P.O.Box 7284 Prospect, CT. 06712-1541 Tel: 203-758-6312 Fax: 203-758-3338 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] performance vs. processor usage
Ive seen that with my system - a dual Pentium II, 200 MHz, 128 mbyte, running NT. Looking in the task manager/ processes I found a program (findfast.exe) running amok and taking up around 70 % of system resources. I killed it which helped, and rebooted which helped even more. ___ Clive Broome IDT Sydney Design CentrePh: +61 2 9763 3513 8 Bayswater Dr, HomebushFax:+61 2 9763 3409 Sydney, NSW, 2127 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Australia ___ Bob Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/19/2002 07:59:34 AM Please respond to Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Clive Broome/sdc) Subject: [PEDA] performance vs. processor usage Hi all but I may be getting closer to a solution to my performance problem. While looking at the SYSTEM MONITOR I noticed that my slow computer is showing a processor usage of 100% all the time. I've closed everything I can and it still shows 100%. The other faster computer has this fluctuating between 7% and 31% with a minimal of things running. I'm disconnected from the network, and there is no virus software running. Does this give anyone ideas? I haven't been able to look into today's posts for answers but thought I'd throw this out there. Bob Jones Digitized Technologies 2 Summit Road P.O.Box 7284 Prospect, CT. 06712-1541 Tel: 203-758-6312 Fax: 203-758-3338 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
