Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-16 Thread Watnoski, Michael




Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-16 Thread Mark Randol

You can do the same thing with a generic PS driver that comes with
Windoze.  Just setup the port as FILE, and it'll cue you for it
everytime you print.

IIRC, you can use Ghostscript to generate PS ?or PDF? as a printer
driver as well.

-- 
Mark Randol, RF Evaluation Engineer
Motorola SPS, Inc.
M/S EL536
2100 E. Elliot Road
Tempe, AZ 85284
(480)413-8052 Voice
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Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-15 Thread Mike Reagan




 What does ALT, WIN(key), Printscreen provide that ALT, Printscreen
 doesn't?

 Tony


Tony and Paul ,

You got me , all these years I was playing twister with my thumb to reach
that third  Win Key.   I picked up my tip from Charles McDonald
contributing writer to PCD magazine and have used all three keys ever since.
Thanks for the enhanced tip of the day

Mike Reagan
EDSI
Frederick Md

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Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-15 Thread Watnoski, Michael




Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-15 Thread Steve Baldwin


 I would like to use Protel 99SE to draw some schematics with the
 intent of eventually using these schematics simply as drawings, as if
 I had drawn them with Visio, Corel, Micrographics, Paintshop, or some
 other generic drawing program.  I would then like to insert these
 drawings into Word, Wordpad, or whatever.  Does anyone have any
 insight into doing this?

A slightly different method that I find useful is to setup a Windows 
HPGL plotter with capture to file. Most of the programs you list will 
import an HPGL file and it remains vector based rather than a 
bitmap. It's a bit more messing around than going via the clipboard 
but the result is more useful for some types of diagrams.

Steve.

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Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-15 Thread Sean James

Try using Snagit from www.techsmith.com. It's great for capturing a portion
of your screen display, also you can edit the picture and print it.
Sean James
PCB Designer
Telecast Fiber Systems, Inc.
102 Grove Street
Worcester, MA 01605
(TEL) 508.754.4858 x33
(FAX) 413.541.6170
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From: Watnoski, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Protel EDA Forum' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.


 Hi Thomas,

 While Protel has some enhanced features for copying the screen
 image, my technique works for all windows software.  I just have not seen
a
 reason to modify my procedures just for Protel.

 Michael


 -Original Message-.com
 From: Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:30 PM
 To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif,
 etc.


 Michael there really is no need to do all that.
 Simply select the bits you want to copy in the schematic, use the
schematic
 copy function (don't forget to set a reference location) and only the
 selected bits are sent to the windows clipboard ready for pasting.

 If you don't want the title block and rest of the template to copy as
well,
 uncheck Tools/Preferences/Graphical Editing/Add template to clipboard.


  -Original Message-
  From: Watnoski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2001 8:25 AM
  To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
  Subject: Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif,
  etc.
  Importance: High
 
 
  Hi Ray,
 
  The method I use is to do a screen capture by pressing the print
  screen button after zooming in to show the area of interest
  as large as
  possible, and moving the cursor to the bottom of the screen.
  This saves an
  image of the current screen in the clipboard as a bitmap
  (.bmp) file.  Open
  a photo editor and ctrl V to paste the image.  Now I crop
  the edges to
  remove the toolbars and other extraneous details.  Another
  ctrl C to copy
  the edit image back to the clipboard.  Now open the word
  processor program
  and paste like any other image.  It may help to change your
  screen colors
  before starting this procedure unless you want light lines on a dark
  background.
  I hope this helps.
 
  Michael
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ray Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:39 PM
  To: Protel EDA Forum
  Subject: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.
 
 
  Hello,
 
  I would like to use Protel 99SE to draw some schematics with
  the intent of
  eventually using these schematics simply as drawings, as if I
  had drawn
  them with Visio, Corel, Micrographics, Paintshop, or some
  other generic
  drawing program.  I would then like to insert these drawings
  into Word,
  Wordpad, or whatever.  Does anyone have any insight into doing this?
 
  Thanks,
  Ray Mitchell
 
 
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Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-15 Thread Thomas

How about these for reasons, its quicker and easier and there's no  need to
position the items you want to copy at max magnification on the screen (to
get decent resolution).

Each to their own.


 -Original Message-
 From: Watnoski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, 16 November 2001 6:03 AM
 To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif,
 etc.
 
 
 Hi Thomas,
 
   While Protel has some enhanced features for copying the screen
 image, my technique works for all windows software.  I just 
 have not seen a
 reason to modify my procedures just for Protel.
 
 Michael
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 6:30 PM
 To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif,
 etc.
 
 
 Michael there really is no need to do all that.
 Simply select the bits you want to copy in the schematic, use 
 the schematic
 copy function (don't forget to set a reference location) and only the
 selected bits are sent to the windows clipboard ready for pasting.
 
 If you don't want the title block and rest of the template to 
 copy as well,
 uncheck Tools/Preferences/Graphical Editing/Add template to clipboard.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Watnoski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2001 8:25 AM
  To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
  Subject: Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif,
  etc.
  Importance: High
  
  
  Hi Ray,
  
  The method I use is to do a screen capture by pressing the print
  screen button after zooming in to show the area of interest 
  as large as
  possible, and moving the cursor to the bottom of the screen.  
  This saves an
  image of the current screen in the clipboard as a bitmap 
  (.bmp) file.  Open
  a photo editor and ctrl V to paste the image.  Now I crop 
  the edges to
  remove the toolbars and other extraneous details.  Another 
  ctrl C to copy
  the edit image back to the clipboard.  Now open the word 
  processor program
  and paste like any other image.  It may help to change your 
  screen colors
  before starting this procedure unless you want light lines on a dark
  background.
  I hope this helps.
  
  Michael
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Ray Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:39 PM
  To: Protel EDA Forum
  Subject: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, 
 gif, etc.
  
  
  Hello,
  
  I would like to use Protel 99SE to draw some schematics with 
  the intent of 
  eventually using these schematics simply as drawings, as if I 
  had drawn 
  them with Visio, Corel, Micrographics, Paintshop, or some 
  other generic 
  drawing program.  I would then like to insert these drawings 
  into Word, 
  Wordpad, or whatever.  Does anyone have any insight into doing this?
  
  Thanks,
  Ray Mitchell
  
  
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Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-15 Thread Mark Blackburn

I've seen many people mention PDF distiller/PDF writer to get high res 
simple output. There is also a free alternative to this (if you don't 
mind PostScript). Adobe has put out a free PostScript printer driver at

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=44platform=Windows

You can set this up to print to a file and voila, you have a PS file you 
can view with Ghostview and maybe convert to other formats.

Note: this printer driver only supports letter, legal, A4. None of the 
larger paper sizes like ANSIB, ANSIC, ANSID, ANSIE; but I have a PPD 
file for these sizes which I can make available (I didn't think 
attaching it was appropriate).

Also if you must have PDF files Ghostscript will do that conversion (I 
personally use the Cygwin version but there is a windows version too).

Mark Blackburn

Thomas wrote:

 How about these for reasons, its quicker and easier and there's no  need to
 position the items you want to copy at max magnification on the screen (to
 get decent resolution).
 
 Each to their own.
 


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Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-15 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax

At 02:03 PM 11/15/01 -0500, Watnoski, Michael wrote:
 While Protel has some enhanced features for copying the screen
image, my technique works for all windows software.  I just have not seen a
reason to modify my procedures just for Protel.

Copy/Paste *is* a standard Windows procedure. Copying bitmap images of the 
screen works, yes, but the images require editing unless you are going to 
keep all the frames, menus, etc., and the image quality is severely 
limited. You can make *good quality* prints with the Metafile images.

So the two reasons to use what was suggested are: speed of use and quality 
of result. If that is not attractive, all I can bring to mind is horses, 
water, old dogs, new tricks.

:-)

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Easthampton, Massachusetts USA

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Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-14 Thread Bob Fearon

Hi Ray
I have had some success writing these (schematics) out as PDF's.
I have not tried to put them back into a word or text document.
I have also used various other paint programs to capture the schematics
to use as partials in rework drawings. It can be done.
Bob Fearon


Ray Mitchell wrote:

 Hello,

 I would like to use Protel 99SE to draw some schematics with the intent of
 eventually using these schematics simply as drawings, as if I had drawn
 them with Visio, Corel, Micrographics, Paintshop, or some other generic
 drawing program.  I would then like to insert these drawings into Word,
 Wordpad, or whatever.  Does anyone have any insight into doing this?

 Thanks,
 Ray Mitchell
 SPAWAR Systems Center
 San Diego, Ca. 92152
 (619)553-5344

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Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-14 Thread Watnoski, Michael




Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-14 Thread Linden Doyle

snip

I have done this before in the past, but from memory you usually end up
with
the entire page.

snip

I ran into this effect some time ago and was helped by someone on this
forum.

Tools|Preferences|Graphical Editing
Untick the option Add Template to clipboard

This will allow you to copy only the selected components without getting the
entire page

Hope this is what you meant.


Best Regards,

LINDEN DOYLE
Product Development Engineer
Zener Electric Pty Ltd

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Fax: +61 2 9795 3611






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Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-14 Thread HxEngr




Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-14 Thread Dwight

When we want a picture of a schematic that others can view, we print to a
pdf file using Acrobat Distiller.  (Acrobat PDFWriter works similarly, but
Distiller seems to give slightly more accurate results.)

 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:39 PM

 I would like to use Protel 99SE to draw some schematics with the intent of
 eventually using these schematics simply as drawings, as if I had drawn
 them with Visio, Corel, Micrographics, Paintshop, or some other generic
 drawing program.  I would then like to insert these drawings into Word,
 Wordpad, or whatever.  Does anyone have any insight into doing this?


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Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-14 Thread marius

Just maximize the protel and schematic window, then press the Print Screen
key on your keyboard . Then  open your favorite graphic editor that accepts
bmp format files and do an Edit/Paste . Your drawing will be there . The bmp
resolution will be equal to your screen settings . This works for any screen
image , be it schematic, pcb , simulation , tex, graphics or any other
program, prtscr is a windoze built-in thing .

Best regards,
Matt Tudor, MSEE - RF Consulting
http://www.gigahertzelectronics.com

-Original Message-
From: Ray Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:54 PM
Subject: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.


Hello,

I would like to use Protel 99SE to draw some schematics with the intent of
eventually using these schematics simply as drawings, as if I had drawn
them with Visio, Corel, Micrographics, Paintshop, or some other generic
drawing program.  I would then like to insert these drawings into Word,
Wordpad, or whatever.  Does anyone have any insight into doing this?

Thanks,
Ray Mitchell
SPAWAR Systems Center
San Diego, Ca. 92152
(619)553-5344




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Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-14 Thread Michael Reagan




 
  I would like to use Protel 99SE to draw some schematics with
 the intent of
  eventually using these schematics simply as drawings, as if I had drawn
  them with Visio, Corel, Micrographics, Paintshop, or some other generic
  drawing program.  I would then like to insert these drawings into Word,
  Wordpad, or whatever.  Does anyone have any insight into doing this?
 
  Thanks,
  Ray Mitchell


Ray,
I will let you in  on the tip of the day, depress ALT, WIN(key) and Print
screen simultaneously.then Control V to any document, paint, or any MS
compatible product.  You can capture, schematic, boards, pins, anything


Good Luck
Mike Reagan
EDSI
Frederick MD


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Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-14 Thread Thomas

Michael there really is no need to do all that.
Simply select the bits you want to copy in the schematic, use the schematic
copy function (don't forget to set a reference location) and only the
selected bits are sent to the windows clipboard ready for pasting.

If you don't want the title block and rest of the template to copy as well,
uncheck Tools/Preferences/Graphical Editing/Add template to clipboard.


 -Original Message-
 From: Watnoski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2001 8:25 AM
 To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif,
 etc.
 Importance: High
 
 
 Hi Ray,
 
   The method I use is to do a screen capture by pressing the print
 screen button after zooming in to show the area of interest 
 as large as
 possible, and moving the cursor to the bottom of the screen.  
 This saves an
 image of the current screen in the clipboard as a bitmap 
 (.bmp) file.  Open
 a photo editor and ctrl V to paste the image.  Now I crop 
 the edges to
 remove the toolbars and other extraneous details.  Another 
 ctrl C to copy
 the edit image back to the clipboard.  Now open the word 
 processor program
 and paste like any other image.  It may help to change your 
 screen colors
 before starting this procedure unless you want light lines on a dark
 background.
   I hope this helps.
 
 Michael
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ray Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:39 PM
 To: Protel EDA Forum
 Subject: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.
 
 
 Hello,
 
 I would like to use Protel 99SE to draw some schematics with 
 the intent of 
 eventually using these schematics simply as drawings, as if I 
 had drawn 
 them with Visio, Corel, Micrographics, Paintshop, or some 
 other generic 
 drawing program.  I would then like to insert these drawings 
 into Word, 
 Wordpad, or whatever.  Does anyone have any insight into doing this?
 
 Thanks,
 Ray Mitchell
 
 
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Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-14 Thread Paul Hutchinson

 I will let you in  on the tip of the day, depress ALT, WIN(key) and Print
 screen simultaneously.then Control V to any document, paint, or any MS
 compatible product.  You can capture, schematic, boards, pins, anything

You can skip the Windows key, Alt+PrtScrn does the same, copy current window
only.

Paul




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Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-14 Thread Thomas

One thing I didn't realise until yesterday was that whilst it is not
possible to copy PCB art to the windows clipboard from the PCB editor, it is
possible to copy the print preview of the PCB to the clipboard (Protel help
topic):

Copying from the preview window to other applications

Select Edit » Copy from the Print/Preview menus to copy the current printout
to the Windows clipboard. You can then paste the image into other
applications that support the Windows clipboard, such as Microsoft Word.
Note: The image is copied from the preview to the clipboard as an enhanced
metafile. You can also export the printouts as either standard or enhanced
WMF files.

 ©Protel International 1999. All rights reserved.

So for those people without Acrobat Writer this could be an alternative.


 -Original Message-
 From: Dwight [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2001 8:57 AM
 To: 'Protel EDA Forum'
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif,
 etc.
 
 
 When we want a picture of a schematic that others can view, 
 we print to a
 pdf file using Acrobat Distiller.  (Acrobat PDFWriter works 
 similarly, but
 Distiller seems to give slightly more accurate results.)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ray Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 12:39 PM
 
  I would like to use Protel 99SE to draw some schematics 
 with the intent of
  eventually using these schematics simply as drawings, as if 
 I had drawn
  them with Visio, Corel, Micrographics, Paintshop, or some 
 other generic
  drawing program.  I would then like to insert these 
 drawings into Word,
  Wordpad, or whatever.  Does anyone have any insight into doing this?
 
 

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Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-14 Thread Tony Karavidas

What does ALT, WIN(key), Printscreen provide that ALT, Printscreen
doesn't?

Tony



 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:15 PM
 To: Protel EDA Forum
 Subject: Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif,
 etc.





  
   I would like to use Protel 99SE to draw some schematics with
  the intent of
   eventually using these schematics simply as drawings, as if I
 had drawn
   them with Visio, Corel, Micrographics, Paintshop, or some
 other generic
   drawing program.  I would then like to insert these drawings
 into Word,
   Wordpad, or whatever.  Does anyone have any insight into doing this?
  
   Thanks,
   Ray Mitchell
 

 Ray,
 I will let you in  on the tip of the day, depress ALT, WIN(key) and Print
 screen simultaneously.then Control V to any document, paint, or any MS
 compatible product.  You can capture, schematic, boards, pins, anything


 Good Luck
 Mike Reagan
 EDSI
 Frederick MD
 


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Re: [PEDA] Exporting a schematic as a simple jpg, bmp, gif, etc.

2001-11-14 Thread Dennis Saputelli


Dwight wrote:
 
 When we want a picture of a schematic that others can view, we print to a
 pdf file using Acrobat Distiller.  (Acrobat PDFWriter works similarly, but
 Distiller seems to give slightly more accurate results.)
 
i too have found distiller slightly (noticeably) better

Dennis Saputelli

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