Re: [PEDA] Routing identical channels in P99SE
Amen to that! Michael Badillo From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2003/09/18 Thu PM 07:20:05 EDT To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Routing identical channels in P99SE One piece of advice from the school of hard knocks and soft skulls When you are going to multiply up sections in schematic or PCB, make *very* sure that the section is what you want. Or else you have N x as many changes to make when you find an error There are many ways to multiply sections, as has been noted * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Routing identical channels in P99SE
how true how true! it's sort of a corollary of the old carpenter's saying measure twice, cut once you can really make a lot of make work, BTDT ds Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > > One piece of advice from the school of hard knocks and soft skulls > > When you are going to multiply up sections in schematic or PCB, make *very* > sure that the section is what you want. Or else you have N x as many > changes to make when you find an error > > There are many ways to multiply sections, as has been noted > -- Dennis Saputelli = send only plain text please! - no HTML == ___ Integrated Controls, Inc. www.integratedcontrolsinc.com 2851 21st Streettel: 415-647-0480 San Francisco, CA 94110 fax: 415-647-3003 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Routing identical channels in P99SE
One piece of advice from the school of hard knocks and soft skulls When you are going to multiply up sections in schematic or PCB, make *very* sure that the section is what you want. Or else you have N x as many changes to make when you find an error There are many ways to multiply sections, as has been noted * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Routing identical channels in P99SE
i just did a step and repeat multi chan in SE a little differently build up one cell, fully routed copy & paste whole section, tracks, parts, warts and all and accept the R41_1 designator junk edit the R41_1, etc. to their real names re-load the netlist this has the advantage over what you describe of not having to relocate the the parts precisely on the tracks and avoids having to swing each one about to get pin 1 in the right place also the parts get less dizzy this way if real parts were the lying about then delete them as you rename the copied ones this forms a cross check and makes it a little easier to match up was/is a little boring but worked like a treat Dennis Saputelli Ian Wilson wrote: > > On 09:44 PM 18/09/2003, Peder K. Hellegaard said: > >Hi. > > > >I am going to route a design consisting of 7 identical circuits. They are > >subcircuits of the main SCH sheet. The components are designated in > >accordance with the convention > > > >Circuit1: > >R100, R101...C100, C101 etc. > > > >Circuit2: > >R200, R201...C200, C201 etc. > > > >Circuit3: > >R300, R301...C300, C301 etc. > > > >and so on > > > > > >I have now placed and routed one of these circuits. > > > >Anyone who knows how to automatically place and route the remaining 6 > >circuits so they will be identical to th eone I routed manually ? > > (DXP comment- DXP has a multi-channel capability that allows this sort of > thing to be done with more ease than P99SE. Uses the idea of copying Room > formats, I gather. I have not used it so can't comment in detail. Others > have with success I think. Of little use to P99SE users but some users had > expressed interest in knowing comparisons when they came up.) > > In P99SE I have always laid out one channel pretty much fully and then copy > and pasted the tracks to each channel, then moved the components into > position. If you have a lot to do it would be possible to reposition > components using the speadsheet functionality, or importing from a > database, or from a massaged pick and place file. (Manually moving sm > components with the reference point at the centroid is not as easy as > moving components with a centroid on a pad when doing this sort of work.) > > Ian -- Dennis Saputelli = send only plain text please! - no HTML == ___ Integrated Controls, Inc. www.integratedcontrolsinc.com 2851 21st Streettel: 415-647-0480 San Francisco, CA 94110 fax: 415-647-3003 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Routing identical channels in P99SE
Hi,
Try this add-on I wrote for P99SE:
http://www.proteluser.com/download/Pcb_99SE_add-on/
It will do what you need. Read the readme.txt before using it. There is no
undo so make a copy of your pcb before you start.
Best regards
Mattias
Mattias Ericson
Omnisys Instruments AB
Gruvgatan 8
SE-421 30 Västra Frölunda, SWEDEN
Phone: +46 31 734 34 08
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Hi.
I am going to route a design consisting of 7 identical circuits. They are
subcircuits of the main SCH sheet. The components are designated in
accordance with the convention
Circuit1:
R100, R101...C100, C101 etc.
Circuit2:
R200, R201...C200, C201 etc.
Circuit3:
R300, R301...C300, C301 etc.
and so on
I have now placed and routed one of these circuits.
Anyone who knows how to automatically place and route the remaining 6
circuits so they will be identical to th eone I routed manually ?
Peder
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Re: [PEDA] Routing identical channels in P99SE
What I have discovered: Make your first cell using designators like C~01, C~02, R~01,
etc. in the schematic editor. Copy the cell and replace the {~=n} where 'n' is the
cell number.
Route the first cell in the PCB editor and copy it. This copies the deginators but
not the net names. Then copy the cell 'n' times. replace the {~=n) again. There may
be a "_1" appended to the designator. Remove it by selecting the cell and using a
global change {_1=}.
Then go back to the schematic editor and select "update PCB." Deselect the "delete
components" option. Make sure the option for "copy net designators" is on. When you
execute, the nets will be named in the PCB file and Bob is your uncle.
Hope it helps.
Michael Badillo
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Date: 2003/09/18 Thu AM 07:44:17 EDT
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Subject: [PEDA] Routing identical channels in P99SE
Hi.
I am going to route a design consisting of 7 identical circuits. They are
subcircuits of the main SCH sheet. The components are designated in
accordance with the convention
Circuit1:
R100, R101...C100, C101 etc.
Circuit2:
R200, R201...C200, C201 etc.
Circuit3:
R300, R301...C300, C301 etc.
and so on
I have now placed and routed one of these circuits.
Anyone who knows how to automatically place and route the remaining 6
circuits so they will be identical to th eone I routed manually ?
Peder
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Re: [PEDA] Routing identical channels in P99SE
At 18/09/2003 13:44, Peder K. Hellegaard wrote: Hi. I am going to route a design consisting of 7 identical circuits. They are subcircuits of the main SCH sheet. The components are designated in accordance with the convention Circuit1: R100, R101...C100, C101 etc. Circuit2: R200, R201...C200, C201 etc. How about selecting the routed channel, cut it to the clipboardthingy, then paste an array with textincrement = +100 ?? Haven't tried it, but it seems the logical thing to do.. Leo Potjewijd hardware designer IE Keyprocessor bv. [EMAIL PROTECTED] +31 20 4620700 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Routing identical channels in P99SE
On 09:44 PM 18/09/2003, Peder K. Hellegaard said: Hi. I am going to route a design consisting of 7 identical circuits. They are subcircuits of the main SCH sheet. The components are designated in accordance with the convention Circuit1: R100, R101...C100, C101 etc. Circuit2: R200, R201...C200, C201 etc. Circuit3: R300, R301...C300, C301 etc. and so on I have now placed and routed one of these circuits. Anyone who knows how to automatically place and route the remaining 6 circuits so they will be identical to th eone I routed manually ? (DXP comment- DXP has a multi-channel capability that allows this sort of thing to be done with more ease than P99SE. Uses the idea of copying Room formats, I gather. I have not used it so can't comment in detail. Others have with success I think. Of little use to P99SE users but some users had expressed interest in knowing comparisons when they came up.) In P99SE I have always laid out one channel pretty much fully and then copy and pasted the tracks to each channel, then moved the components into position. If you have a lot to do it would be possible to reposition components using the speadsheet functionality, or importing from a database, or from a massaged pick and place file. (Manually moving sm components with the reference point at the centroid is not as easy as moving components with a centroid on a pad when doing this sort of work.) Ian * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
