Re: [PEDA] Simple (?) Pasting Problem
-Original Message- From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 2:54 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Simple (?) Pasting Problem Brian wrote, I've seen this before with a component which has only 1 contact, just like a test point. Hi Brian, I have seen some similar problems with fiducials. My fiducials patterns contain a keep out circle around the soldermask. When I select outside of a board area, the fiducials are always picked up.It is as if their origins are out of range. I have tried recreating the 1 contact part and the problem is repeatable. I never nailed the problem down, but I will look into elimating the keepout circle to see if that works. Mike/Brian I also get this all the time because of the location of the Fiducial marks (normally close to board edges). In my case it is because of a combination of the contents of the comment field (Fiducial)and the default text size, although hidden, is still outside the board edge. The effective component area (or boundary box) seem to be taken from the extremities of all primitives, hidden or not, so technically it might be outside the board area. I have also seen the displacement of comments for other parts due to moving blocks about the workspace when not visible. Also, sometimes if you tell the sw to centre comments/text on any parts without a pad (logos, mech outlines...) the comment (still hidden) will shoot off to the centre of the workspace (not the board). Usually I find this when I get the error that the PCB does not fit the film size. Hope this helps John * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Simple (?) Pasting Problem
Brian wrote, I've seen this before with a component which has only 1 contact, just like a test point. Hi Brian, I have seen some similar problems with fiducials. My fiducials patterns contain a keep out circle around the soldermask. When I select outside of a board area, the fiducials are always picked up.It is as if their origins are out of range. I have tried recreating the 1 contact part and the problem is repeatable. I never nailed the problem down, but I will look into elimating the keepout circle to see if that works. Mike Reagan EDSI Frederick MD , USA * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Simple (?) Pasting Problem
Actually, Brian, Mike, The problem is Prohell ; ) And it is just operating normally ; ) JaMi - Original Message - From: Mike Reagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Protel EDA Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 6:53 AM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Simple (?) Pasting Problem Brian wrote, I've seen this before with a component which has only 1 contact, just like a test point. Hi Brian, I have seen some similar problems with fiducials. My fiducials patterns contain a keep out circle around the soldermask. When I select outside of a board area, the fiducials are always picked up.It is as if their origins are out of range. I have tried recreating the 1 contact part and the problem is repeatable. I never nailed the problem down, but I will look into elimating the keepout circle to see if that works. Mike Reagan EDSI Frederick MD , USA * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Simple (?) Pasting Problem
In addition - Upon further investigation, it appears that it only happens on certain library components. I tried it on a testpoint of ours - crash. I then tried it on a resistor (also from our own library) - it works... *sob* ;) -Original Message- From: Terry Creer Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2002 12:05 PM To: Protel EDA Forum (E-mail) Subject: [PEDA] Simple (?) Pasting Problem AAGHH!!! All of a sudden, I've discovered that if I select a single component and then either Cut or Copy it, and then paste it (or paste an array of them), Protel (99SE sp6) locks up completely and the status bar just says 'processing pasted primitives'. This is not repeatable on the other PCB designer's computer (he is running WinXP instead of 2k). It does not do it if I have more than one component selected, or if the selection is just primitives. I am running Win2k on a P4 1.6GHz with 256Mb. Has anyone ever come across this before? Any suggestions? Am I up for a re-install?\ Thanks in advance... Terry Creer Electronic Design Technician Clipsal Integrated Systems Pty. Ltd. Phone: (08) 8269 0560 Fax: (08) 8346 0380 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The information contained in this email is intended only for the use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may be confidential or contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any perusal, use, distribution, copying or disclosure is strictly prohibited. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Simple (?) Pasting Problem
Is it only one particular part or does it happen if you select any type of component? What about a part from a different library? -Original Message- From: Terry Creer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2002 12:35 To: Protel EDA Forum (E-mail) Subject: [PEDA] Simple (?) Pasting Problem AAGHH!!! All of a sudden, I've discovered that if I select a single component and then either Cut or Copy it, and then paste it (or paste an array of them), Protel (99SE sp6) locks up completely and the status bar just says 'processing pasted primitives'. This is not repeatable on the other PCB designer's computer (he is running WinXP instead of 2k). It does not do it if I have more than one component selected, or if the selection is just primitives. I am running Win2k on a P4 1.6GHz with 256Mb. Has anyone ever come across this before? Any suggestions? Am I up for a re-install?\ Thanks in advance... Terry Creer Electronic Design Technician Clipsal Integrated Systems Pty. Ltd. Phone: (08) 8269 0560 Fax: (08) 8346 0380 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The information contained in this email is intended only for the use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may be confidential or contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any perusal, use, distribution, copying or disclosure is strictly prohibited. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Simple (?) Pasting Problem
i doubt it is W2K i have seen it on a few occasions it went away somehow are you pasting into the same document as cutting/copying? when i cut/copy from one doc into another i have learned not to close the first one until later, after the paste i think they improved this somewhere along the way to SP6 though is it a big hairy component? i have had logos (made as components with a tiny zillion fills) cause apparent lock up of protel during a window selection operation when in fact it was just an eterna 'processing' that finally finished i don't put the logos on anymore until i am done i would *just* reboot the whole system and see what happens i know that others have experienced otherwise but on the few occasions i reinstalled it didn't solve whatever problem was at hand when you shut down prottle and before you reboot check the task manager to see if phantom copies of protel are running in the applications or processes tabs Dennis Saputelli Terry Creer wrote: AAGHH!!! All of a sudden, I've discovered that if I select a single component and then either Cut or Copy it, and then paste it (or paste an array of them), Protel (99SE sp6) locks up completely and the status bar just says 'processing pasted primitives'. This is not repeatable on the other PCB designer's computer (he is running WinXP instead of 2k). It does not do it if I have more than one component selected, or if the selection is just primitives. I am running Win2k on a P4 1.6GHz with 256Mb. Has anyone ever come across this before? Any suggestions? Am I up for a re-install?\ Thanks in advance... Terry Creer Electronic Design Technician Clipsal Integrated Systems Pty. Ltd. Phone: (08) 8269 0560 Fax: (08) 8346 0380 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The information contained in this email is intended only for the use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may be confidential or contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any perusal, use, distribution, copying or disclosure is strictly prohibited. -- ___ www.integratedcontrolsinc.comIntegrated Controls, Inc. tel: 415-647-04802851 21st Street fax: 415-647-3003San Francisco, CA 94110 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Simple (?) Pasting Problem
Have you tried repairing the database that contains the library? Server menu (arrow left of File)/Design Utilities/Repair -Original Message- From: Terry Creer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2002 12:40 To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Simple (?) Pasting Problem In addition - Upon further investigation, it appears that it only happens on certain library components. I tried it on a testpoint of ours - crash. I then tried it on a resistor (also from our own library) - it works... *sob* ;) -Original Message- From: Terry Creer Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2002 12:05 PM To: Protel EDA Forum (E-mail) Subject: [PEDA] Simple (?) Pasting Problem AAGHH!!! All of a sudden, I've discovered that if I select a single component and then either Cut or Copy it, and then paste it (or paste an array of them), Protel (99SE sp6) locks up completely and the status bar just says 'processing pasted primitives'. This is not repeatable on the other PCB designer's computer (he is running WinXP instead of 2k). It does not do it if I have more than one component selected, or if the selection is just primitives. I am running Win2k on a P4 1.6GHz with 256Mb. Has anyone ever come across this before? Any suggestions? Am I up for a re-install?\ Thanks in advance... Terry Creer Electronic Design Technician Clipsal Integrated Systems Pty. Ltd. Phone: (08) 8269 0560 Fax: (08) 8346 0380 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The information contained in this email is intended only for the use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may be confidential or contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any perusal, use, distribution, copying or disclosure is strictly prohibited. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Re: [PEDA] Simple (?) Pasting Problem
Terry, you might have some hidden objects in your components. That would explain why Protel takes time to process it. Or your component may be corrupted in some other way. Try to select all the visible objects in the component and then copy-paste to a new component. Then check if it still does the same. Igor -Original Message- From: Terry Creer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2002 12:40 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Simple (?) Pasting Problem In addition - Upon further investigation, it appears that it only happens on certain library components. I tried it on a testpoint of ours - crash. I then tried it on a resistor (also from our own library) - it works... *sob* ;) -Original Message- From: Terry Creer Sent: Thursday, 28 November 2002 12:05 PM To: Protel EDA Forum (E-mail) Subject: [PEDA] Simple (?) Pasting Problem AAGHH!!! All of a sudden, I've discovered that if I select a single component and then either Cut or Copy it, and then paste it (or paste an array of them), Protel (99SE sp6) locks up completely and the status bar just says 'processing pasted primitives'. This is not repeatable on the other PCB designer's computer (he is running WinXP instead of 2k). It does not do it if I have more than one component selected, or if the selection is just primitives. I am running Win2k on a P4 1.6GHz with 256Mb. Has anyone ever come across this before? Any suggestions? Am I up for a re-install?\ Thanks in advance... Terry Creer Electronic Design Technician Clipsal Integrated Systems Pty. Ltd. Phone: (08) 8269 0560 Fax: (08) 8346 0380 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Disclaimer: The information contained in this email is intended only for the use of the person(s) to whom it is addressed and may be confidential or contain legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any perusal, use, distribution, copying or disclosure is strictly prohibited. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
