[Prototype-core] Re: Lag between click and invocation of event handler in IE

2010-04-09 Thread T.J. Crowder
Hi Marco,

This list is for discussion of the actual development *of* Prototype.
Would you repost your question on the user's list:
http://groups.google.com/group/prototype-scriptaculous

Thanks,
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On Apr 9, 5:26 pm, marcoow  wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> I have some JS code that listens to click events on links. In IE I see
> a reasonable lag (around 1 sec.) between the actual click and the
> invokation of my event handler. Is there any typical reason for that?
> My JS attaches around 50 event handlers on the page in question.
>
> Can provide code if neccessary but I thought there might be a typical
> reason for lags like this? Something that's very likely the case of my
> problem?
>
> Thanks for help,
> Marco

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[Prototype-core] Lag between click and invocation of event handler in IE

2010-04-09 Thread marcoow
Hi list,

I have some JS code that listens to click events on links. In IE I see
a reasonable lag (around 1 sec.) between the actual click and the
invokation of my event handler. Is there any typical reason for that?
My JS attaches around 50 event handlers on the page in question.

Can provide code if neccessary but I thought there might be a typical
reason for lags like this? Something that's very likely the case of my
problem?

Thanks for help,
Marco

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[Prototype-core] Re: API Documentation "Sections"

2010-04-09 Thread Tobie Langel
Done.

On Apr 9, 6:33 am, gf3  wrote:
> BAM. 
> Done:http://github.com/gf3/pdoc/commit/55f6628be7fc5f91b7602ced0fddd5617db...
>
> On Apr 8, 10:23 am, Tobie Langel  wrote:
>
>
>
> > May I suggest someone fix this and send me a pull request?
>
> > Best,
>
> > Tobie

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[Prototype-core] Re: Helping with the web site once it's on github

2010-04-09 Thread T.J. Crowder
Tobie,

I'm just not going to continue this, it's a pointless aggravation for
both of us.

Have a good one,

-- T.J.

On Apr 9, 1:10 pm, Tobie Langel  wrote:
> > Oh for cryin' out loud, Tobie. There are roughly 50 wiki engines out
> > there that make contributing a darn sight easier than using flippin'
> > git. But:
>
> Hosted, fully style-able wikis with an integrated blog engine, which
> allow inclusion of static HTML pages (the generated API doc), and can
> live on their own domain name for less than $7/month ?
>
> Yes please!!

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[Prototype-core] Re: Helping with the web site once it's on github

2010-04-09 Thread Tobie Langel
> Oh for cryin' out loud, Tobie. There are roughly 50 wiki engines out
> there that make contributing a darn sight easier than using flippin'
> git. But:

Hosted, fully style-able wikis with an integrated blog engine, which
allow inclusion of static HTML pages (the generated API doc), and can
live on their own domain name for less than $7/month ?

Yes please!!

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[Prototype-core] Re: Helping with the web site once it's on github

2010-04-09 Thread T.J. Crowder
Mislav,

Fair nuff. I'm not going to argue the point, though I think one could
argue it from a ... no, wait, saying "from a ___ perspective" would be
arguing the point, and I'm not going to, because:

1. It's not my project

2. It's not my project (I think it's worth saying twice) :-)

3. The people *actually running the project* have made their decision

4. GitHub makes life fairly easy for people who don't use git, so this
whole discussion was pretty much unnecessary. You don't need git to
help out. You just need a browser. Thank you again for pointing that
out.

-- T.J.

On Apr 9, 12:29 pm, Mislav Marohnić  wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 09:47, T.J. Crowder  wrote:
>
> > We'll have to disagree on that, then, and it's your project. For a
> > project I was running, I would consider it a completely unacceptable
> > barrier to non-code contribution.
>
> From my experience: I'm working on an open-source project right now for my
> employer. This project has had a number of contributions over the past 3
> weeks (since I started), most of them coming from people that don't know
> git. These contributions were translations, design changes, copywriting. It
> was generally more difficult and time-consuming to merge in changes
> submitted by people who didn't use git than from people that did. Also,
> patches from people generated by git were generally more quality.
>
> I fully back Tobie's decision to set up some bar for contributors.

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Re: [Prototype-core] Re: Helping with the web site once it's on github

2010-04-09 Thread Mislav Marohnić
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 09:47, T.J. Crowder  wrote:

>
> We'll have to disagree on that, then, and it's your project. For a
> project I was running, I would consider it a completely unacceptable
> barrier to non-code contribution.


>From my experience: I'm working on an open-source project right now for my
employer. This project has had a number of contributions over the past 3
weeks (since I started), most of them coming from people that don't know
git. These contributions were translations, design changes, copywriting. It
was generally more difficult and time-consuming to merge in changes
submitted by people who didn't use git than from people that did. Also,
patches from people generated by git were generally more quality.

I fully back Tobie's decision to set up some bar for contributors.

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[Prototype-core] Re: Helping with the web site once it's on github

2010-04-09 Thread T.J. Crowder
Tobie,

> I'd like the perfect solution as much as anybody, I just haven't
> bumped into it yet.
>
> If you have, please speak up. If not, please spare me that kind of
> remarks. They're just completely counter-productive

Oh for cryin' out loud, Tobie. There are roughly 50 wiki engines out
there that make contributing a darn sight easier than using flippin'
git. But:

> P.S.: For the record. Mislav's right, you can fork the project and
> edit it in the browser.

Excellent! So minimum requirement is a browser.

-- T.J.

On Apr 9, 10:55 am, Tobie Langel  wrote:
> > > I think I can live with that.
>
> > We'll have to disagree on that, then, and it's your project. For a
> > project I was running, I would consider it a completely unacceptable
> > barrier to non-code contribution.
>
> I'd like the perfect solution as much as anybody, I just haven't
> bumped into it yet.
>
> If you have, please speak up. If not, please spare me that kind of
> remarks. They're just completely counter-productive
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tobie
>
> P.S.: For the record. Mislav's right, you can fork the project and
> edit it in the browser.

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[Prototype-core] Re: Helping with the web site once it's on github

2010-04-09 Thread Tobie Langel

> > I think I can live with that.
>
> We'll have to disagree on that, then, and it's your project. For a
> project I was running, I would consider it a completely unacceptable
> barrier to non-code contribution.

I'd like the perfect solution as much as anybody, I just haven't
bumped into it yet.

If you have, please speak up. If not, please spare me that kind of
remarks. They're just completely counter-productive

Thanks.

Tobie

P.S.: For the record. Mislav's right, you can fork the project and
edit it in the browser.

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[Prototype-core] Re: Helping with the web site once it's on github

2010-04-09 Thread T.J. Crowder
@Tobie:

> > Mind you, it seems to me even git is a barrier to casual helpers, if
> > they don't already use it.
>
> I think I can live with that.

We'll have to disagree on that, then, and it's your project. For a
project I was running, I would consider it a completely unacceptable
barrier to non-code contribution.

@Mislav:

> People can edit pages from the website and preview the result in their text
> editor if it supports Textile/Markdown.

That's a feature of GitHub? Browser-based editing of content? The
content Tobie's talking about (as opposed to other stuff)? If so,
result!

-- T.J.

On Apr 8, 7:46 pm, Mislav Marohnić  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 18:34, T.J. Crowder  wrote:
> > Thanks. Purely git? Not ruby (unless you also want to install Jekyll)?
>
> People can edit pages from the website and preview the result in their text
> editor if it supports Textile/Markdown. Jekyll is only needed if they want
> to generate the complete site to see how will a reflect when put online (not
> necessary in most cases).
>
> Speaking of Textile/Markdown, we're going to standardize on Markdown, right?
> I think that we should get rid of all Textile in this process, then? I
> recall we started with Textile on Mephisto but eventually started writing
> mostly in Markdown.

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