On 04:08 pm, ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote:
Hi All,
Would anyone object if I removed the deletion of of
sys.setdefaultencoding in site.py?
I'm guessing "yes!" so thought I'd state my reasons now:
This deletion appears to be pretty flimsy; reload(sys) and you have it
back. Which is lucky, bec
On 26 Aug, 11:51 pm, ch...@simplistix.co.uk wrote:
exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
The ability to change the default encoding is a misfeature. There's
essentially no way to write correct Python code in the presence of
this feature.
How so? If every single piece of text in your project is en
On 12:49 am, benja...@python.org wrote:
I should probably mark that PEP as abandoned or deferred, since for
various reasons, it seems like this is not what Python-dev feels is
needed [1].
Re-reading that thread, I see some good discussion about how to improve
the PEP, a little bit of misunders
On 12:59 pm, st...@pearwood.info wrote:
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 06:55:33 pm Martin v. L�wis wrote:
> Does it sound worthy enough to create a patch for and integrate
> into python itself?
Probably not, given that people think that the algorithm itself is
fairly useless.
I would think that for most
On 04:25 pm, eric.pru...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm bumping this PEP again in hopes of getting some feedback.
Thanks,
Eric
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 23:52, Eric Pruitt
wrote:
PEP: 3145
Title: Asynchronous I/O For subprocess.Popen
Author: (James) Eric Pruitt, Charles R. McCreary, Josiah Carlson
Type:
On 11:10 am, ncogh...@gmail.com wrote:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I've been skimming emails in this thread, since most of them go over
my
head and I have no current need for an ipaddress module. But one thing
I noticed stands out and needs commenting on:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:05:26 am Peter Moody
On 02:35 pm, benja...@python.org wrote:
Hi everyone,
I've started plotting the release of 2.7. I'd like to try for a final
release mid next summer. 3.2 should be released, if not at the same
time as 2.7, within a few weeks to avoid 2.x having features which 3.x
doesn't. If no one has problems wit
On 06:03 pm, br...@python.org wrote:
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 07:35, Benjamin Peterson
wrote:
[snip]
Additionally, I'm very apprehensive about doing any kind of release
without the buildbots running. Does anyone know when they might be up?
I don't know the answer, but it might be "never". We
On 24 Sep, 11:27 pm, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Additionally, I'm very apprehensive about doing any kind of release
without the buildbots running. Does anyone know when they might be
up?
When I (or somebody else) contacts all the slave operators and asks
them
to restart the buildbot slaves.
On 03:57 am, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Finally, to Stephen's point about seeing the other side of the
argument, I wrote this offlist a week ago:
I *understand* what you're saying, I *understand* that
192.168.1.1/24 isn't a network,
But you still want to treat it as one.
Could you explain wh
On 5 Oct, 01:04 pm, ziade.ta...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:50 PM, wrote:
Ned> Due to a change in distutils released with Python 2.6.3,
packages
Ned> that use setuptools (version 0.6c9, as of this writing), or
the
� �Ned> easy_install command, to build C extension m
On 08:16 pm, n...@arctrix.com wrote:
The current shutdown code in pythonrun.c zaps module globals by
setting them to None (an attempt to break reference cycles). That
causes problems since __del__ methods can try to use the globals
after they have been set to None.
The procedure implemented by h
On 08:24 pm, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Mike Krell wrote:
Is there any possibility of backporting support for the nonlocal
keyword
into a 2.x release?
If so, only into 2.7. Can you please explain why it would be desirable
to do that? 2.7 will likely be the last 2.x release, so only a fairly
s
On 12:16 pm, solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
For a), I think we can solve this only by redundancy, i.e. create more
build slaves, hoping that a sufficient number would be up at any point
in time.
We are already doing this, aren't we?
http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/3.x/
It doesn't seem to work
On 09:47 am, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Mark Dickinson wrote:
Would it be worth spending some time discussing the buildbot situation
at the PyCon 2010 language summit? In the past, I've found the
buildbots to be an incredibly valuable resource; especially when
working with aspects of Python or
On 12:48 pm, c...@msu.edu wrote:
[snip]
The most *exciting* part of pony-build, apart from the always-riveting
spectacle of "titus rediscovering problems that buildbot solved 5 years
ago",
is the loose coupling of recording server to the build slaves and build
reporters. My plan is to enable
On 05:47 pm, p.f.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/10/25 :
Perhaps this is a significant portion of the problem. Maintaining a
build
slave is remarkably simple and easy. I maintain about half a dozen
slaves
and spend at most a few minutes a month operating them. Actually
setting one
up in the fir
On 06:32 pm, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
I've been trying to get some feedback about firing up buildbots on
Cloud
Servers for a while now and haven't had much luck. I'd love to find a
way of having buildbots come to life, report to the mother ship, do
the
build, then go away 'till next time
On 25 Oct, 09:36 pm, db3l@gmail.com wrote:
I think the other issue most likely to cause a perceived "downtime"
with the Windows build slave that I've had a handful of cases over the
past two years where the build slave appears to be operating properly,
but the master seems to just queue up j
On 01:28 am, db3l@gmail.com wrote:
exar...@twistedmatrix.com writes:
This sounds like something that should be reported
upstream. Particularly if you know how to reproduce it. Has it been?
No, largely because I can't reproduce it at all. It's happened maybe
4-5 times in the past 2 years
On 04:18 pm, dan...@stutzbachenterprises.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Antoine Pitrou
wrote:
Er, I prefer to keep things simple. If you have lots of I/O you should
probably
use an event loop rather than separate threads.
On Windows, sometimes using a single-threaded event loop i
On 02:30 pm, solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Hello,
What do you think of creating a "buildbot" category in the tracker?
There are
often problems on specific buildbots which would be nice to track, but
there's
nowhere to do so.
Is your idea that this would be for tracking issues with the *bots*
On 29 Oct, 11:41 pm, jnol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:04 PM, wrote:
On 02:30 pm, solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Hello,
What do you think of creating a "buildbot" category in the tracker?
There
are
often problems on specific buildbots which would be nice to track,
but
there
On 12:55 pm, jnol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:53 AM, "Martin v. Löwis"
wrote:
I'm confused: first you said they fail, now you say they get skipped.
Which one is it? I agree with R. David's analysis: if they fail, it's
a multiprocessing bug, if they get skipped, it's a flaw in
On 04:31 pm, c...@msu.edu wrote:
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 04:21:06PM +, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Hello,
Sorry for the little redundancy, I would like to underline Jean-Paul's
suggestion here:
Le Sun, 25 Oct 2009 14:05:12 +0000, exarkun a ??crit??:
> I think that money can help in two
On 04:42 pm, ole...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 9:13 AM, wrote:
On 12:48 pm, c...@msu.edu wrote:
[snip]
The most *exciting* part of pony-build, apart from the always-
riveting
spectacle of "titus rediscovering problems that buildbot solved 5
years
ago",
is the loose coupling
On 31 Oct, 08:13 pm, solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Martin v. L�wis v.loewis.de> writes:
Not sure whether it's still relevant after the offers of individually
donated hardware.
We'll see, indeed.
However, if you want to look into this, feel free to
set up EC2 slaves.
I only know to setup main
On 5 Nov, 11:55 pm, bobbyrw...@gmail.com wrote:
What exactly are those better ways? Document as deprecated only?
-Brett
A switch to ENABLE those warnings?
Lord knows I'm sick of filtering them out of logs.
A switch to enable deprecation warnings would give developers a
chance to see them w
On 12:10 pm, s...@pobox.com wrote:
Guido> ... it's IMO pretty mysterious if you encounter this and
don't
Guido> already happen to know what it means.
If you require parens maybe it parses better:
import (a or b or c) as mod
Given that the or operator shortcuts I think that (a or b or
On 09:44 am, lud...@lericson.se wrote:
Why are there comments on PyPI? Moreso, why are there comments which I
cannot control as a package author on my very own packages? That's
just absurd.
It's *my* package, and so should be *my* choice if I want user input
or not.
And ratings? I thought i
On 03:01 pm, dalc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Jesse Noller
wrote:
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Barry Warsaw
wrote:
On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:06 AM, Jesse Noller wrote:
Frankly, I agree with him. As implemented, I *and others* think this
is broken. I've taken the sta
On 05:11 pm, lrege...@jarn.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 17:34, Michael Foord
wrote:
Can you be more specific?
Only with an insane amount of work. I'll hold that off for a while.
I don't know if this is related at all (and I guess we won't until
Lennart can be more specific :), but her
On 9 Dec, 06:09 pm, fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
On 09/12/2009 18:02, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
On 05:11 pm, lrege...@jarn.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 17:34, Michael Foord
wrote:
Can you be more specific?
Only with an insane amount of work. I'll hold that off for a while.
On 12 Jan, 10:04 pm, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
[...]
I've done a fair bit of 3.x porting, and I'm firmly convinced that
2.x can do nothing:
[...]
Inherently, 2.8 can't improve on that.
I agree that there are limitations like the ones you've listed, but I
disagree with your conclusion. Maybe
On 10:47 pm, tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
On 1/29/2010 4:19 PM, Collin Winter wrote:
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Nick Coghlan
wrote:
Agreed. We originally switched Unladen Swallow to wordcode in our
2009Q1 release, and saw a performance improvement from this across the
board. We switched back
On 10:55 pm, collinwin...@google.com wrote:
That people are directly munging CPython
bytecode means that CPython should provide a better, more abstract way
to do the same thing that's more resistant to these kinds of changes.
Yes, definitely! Requesting a supported way to do the kind of
intr
On 02:52 pm, m...@egenix.com wrote:
Note that in Python 2.7 you can use
from __future__ import unicode_literals
on a per module basis to achieve much the same effect.
In Python 2.6 as well.
Jean-Paul
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On 03:21 pm, m...@egenix.com wrote:
exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
On 02:52 pm, m...@egenix.com wrote:
Note that in Python 2.7 you can use
from __future__ import unicode_literals
on a per module basis to achieve much the same effect.
In Python 2.6 as well.
Right, but there are
On 04:58 pm, jaeda...@gmail.com wrote:
Jesse Noller gmail.com> writes:
We already have an implementation that spawns a
subprocess and then pushes the required state to the child. The
fundamental need for things to be pickleable *all the time* kinda
makes it annoying to work with.
This require
On 03:57 pm, gu...@python.org wrote:
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Antoine Pitrou
wrote:
Pascal Chambon gmail.com> writes:
By the way, I'm having trouble with the "name" attribute of raw
files,
which can be string or integer (confusing), ambiguous if containing a
relative path,
Why is
On 08:21 pm, ba...@python.org wrote:
On Feb 03, 2010, at 01:17 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
Can you clarify? In Python 3, __file__ always points to the source.
Clearly that is the way of the future. For 99.99% of uses of __file__,
if it suddenly never pointed to a .pyc file any more (even if one
On 10:29 pm, gu...@python.org wrote:
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Ezio Melotti
wrote:
In #7712 I was trying to change regrtest to always run the tests in a
temporary CWD (e.g. /tmp/@test_1234_cwd/).
The patches attached to the issue add a context manager that changes
the
CWD, and it works
On 6 Feb, 11:53 pm, gu...@python.org wrote:
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 3:22 PM, wrote:
On 10:29 pm, gu...@python.org wrote:
[snip]
I haven't tried to repro this particular example, but the reason is
that we don't want to have to call getpwd() on every import nor do we
want to have some kind of
On 10:42 pm, fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
On 09/02/2010 21:57, Ben Finney wrote:
Michael Foord writes:
The next 'big' change to unittest will (may?) be the introduction of
class and module level setUp and tearDown. This was discussed on
Python-ideas and Guido supported them. They can be us
On 02:41 pm, ole...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Michael Foord
wrote:
On 11/02/2010 12:30, Nick Coghlan wrote:
Michael Foord wrote:
I'm not sure what response I expect from this email, and neither
option
will be implemented without further discussion - possibly at the
On 10 Feb, 02:47 pm, ole...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 6:15 PM, wrote:
For what it's worth, we just finished *removing* support for
setUpClass and
tearDownClass from Trial.
Ok ... but why ? Are they considered dangerous for modern societies ?
Several reasons:
- Over the m
On 04:18 pm, tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
Just as a point of reference: zope.testing[1] has a "layer" feature
which is used to support this usecase: a layer is a class namedd as an
attribute of a testcase, e.g.:
class FunctionalLayer:
@classmethod
def setUp(klass):
""" Do som
On 07:48 pm, gu...@python.org wrote:
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Michael Foord
wrote:
My *hope* is that we provide a general solution, possibly based on all
or
part of Test Resources, with an easy mechanism for the setUpClass and
setUpModule but also solves the more general case of sharin
On 08:27 pm, gu...@python.org wrote:
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:20 PM, wrote:
The idea is that you're declaring what the tests need in order to
work.
You're not explicitly defining the order in which things are set up
and torn
down. �That is left up to another part of the library to determin
On 03:43 pm, dirk...@ochtman.nl wrote:
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 16:26, Tres Seaver
wrote:
Because timezones are defined politically, they change frequently.
pytz
is released frequently (multiple times per year) to accomodate those
changes: �I can't see any way to preserve that flexibility if th
On 05:06 pm, c...@hagenlocher.org wrote:
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Jesse Noller wrote:
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Daniel Stutzbach
wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Brian Quinlan
wrote:
>>
>> import futures
>
> +1 on the idea, -1 on the name. It's too similar to "from
On 07:10 pm, gu...@python.org wrote:
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:30 AM, wrote:
On 05:06 pm, c...@hagenlocher.org wrote:
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Jesse Noller
wrote:
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Daniel Stutzbach
wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Brian Quinlan
> wrote:
On 02:10 am, br...@sweetapp.com wrote:
On 7 Mar 2010, at 03:04, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
At 05:32 AM 3/6/2010, Brian Quinlan wrote:
Using twisted (or any other asynchronous I/O framework) forces you to
rewrite your I/O code. Futures do not.
Twisted's "Deferred" API has nothing to do with I/O.
On 08:56 pm, digitalx...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Dj Gilcrease
wrote:
A style I have used in my own code in the past is a Singleton class
with register and create methods, where the register takes a
name(string) and the class and the create method takes the name and
*ar
of sysv.S?
Regards,
Martin
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On 04/13/2010 12:47 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
Jesus Cea jcea.es> writes:
PS: "socket.setdefaulttimeout()" is not enough, because it could
shutdown a perfectly functional connection, just because it was idl
On 02:56 pm, techto...@gmail.com wrote:
Twisted folks will surely appreciate any help and may be able to
contribute back.
http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/Windows
Extra Windows and VS licenses would certainly be helpful for Twisted
development, and might lead indirectly to CPython/Windows im
On 09:39 pm, solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
pobox.com> writes:
Sean> However, I will step up for him and say that I've known him
a
Sean> decade, and he's very trustworthy. He has been the
president (we
Sean> call that position Maximum Leader) of our Linux Users Group
here
Sea
On 25 Apr, 11:18 pm, st...@holdenweb.com wrote:
Tres Seaver wrote:
Antoine Pitrou wrote:
pobox.com> writes:
Sean> However, I will step up for him and say that I've known
him a
Sean> decade, and he's very trustworthy. He has been the
president (we
Sean> call that position Maximum
On 01:38 pm, rdmur...@bitdance.com wrote:
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 11:15:49 +1000, Steven D'Aprano
wrote:
No, of course not. There are always other reasons, the biggest is too
many things to do and not enough time to do it. If I did review
patches, would they be accepted on the strength on my untrus
Hi all,
Has anyone considered using regrtest's -j option in the buildbot
configuration to speed up the test runs? Antoine Pitrou pointed out
that even for single CPU slaves, this could be a win due to the number
of tests that spend time sleeping or waiting on I/O. And on slaves with
multipl
On 03:17 am, jans...@parc.com wrote:
I've got parc-tiger-1 up and running again. It's failing on test_tk,
which makes sense, because it's running as a background twisted
process,
and thus can't access the window server. I should configure that out.
You can run it in an xvfb.
Jean-Paul
On 05:48 pm, solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
Hello,
The buildbots are sometimes subject to a flood of "svn exception"
errors. It has been conjectured that these errors are caused by Web
crawlers pressing "force build" buttons without filling any of the
fields (of course, the fact that we get such ug
On 08:32 pm, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
I'd find it useful if the "branch" field was a choice pull-down
listing
valid branches, rather than a plain text field, and if the "revision"
field always defaulted to "HEAD". Seems to me that since the form is
coming from the buildmaster, that should be p
On 08:34 am, krist...@ccpgames.com wrote:
Hello there.
I wanted to do some work on the ssl module, but I was a bit daunted at
the prerequisites. Is there anywhere that I can get at precompiled
libs for the openssl that we use?
In general, gettin all those "external" projects seem to be complex
On 10:59 am, arcri...@gmail.com wrote:
You mean Twisted support, because library support is at the point where
there are fewer actively maintained packages not yet ported than those
which
are. Of course if your Python experience is hyper-focused to one
framework
that isn't ported yet, it will
On 01:09 pm, arcri...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip]
It is not "critical self-evaluation" to repeat "Python 3 is not ready"
as
litany in #Python and your supporting website. I use the word "litany"
here
because #Python refers users to what appears to be a religious website
http://python-commandments
On 05:24 am, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Seems to work fine. So this I don't understand. Any ideas, anyone?
Didn't we discuss this before? The buildbot slave has no controlling
terminal anymore, hence it cannot open /dev/tty. If you are curious,
just patch your checkout to output the exact errn
On 04:44 pm, solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:00:09 PDT
Bill Janssen wrote:
So, my question then is, why are these skips "unexpected"? Seems to
me
that if this is the case, this test will never run on any platform.
You can change the value of the "usepty" option in your
On 04:26 pm, jans...@parc.com wrote:
exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
Could the test be rewritten (or supplemented) to use a pty? Most or
perhaps all of the same operations should be supported.
Buildbot seems to be explicitly not using a PTY. From the the top of
the test output:
make buildb
On 05:29 pm, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Am 30.06.2010 13:32, schrieb exar...@twistedmatrix.com:
On 05:24 am, mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Seems to work fine. So this I don't understand. Any ideas, anyone?
Didn't we discuss this before? The buildbot slave has no controlling
terminal anymore, hen
On 06:46 pm, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
On 04:44 pm, solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:00:09 PDT
Bill Janssen wrote:
So, my question then is, why are these skips "unexpected"? Seems to
me
that if this is the case, this test will never run on any platform.
You can c
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Jesus Cea jcea.es> writes:
On 12:30 pm, thebra...@brasse.org wrote:
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 9:06 PM, wrote:
It's still little more than an outline. You can see it here:
http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/ProtocolPEP
And if you're interested in helping, we can figure out a way to do
that
(you can have edit permissi
On 10:33 am, solip...@pitrou.net wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:50:00 +0900
"Stephen J. Turnbull" wrote:
I think that's Antoine's PEP 3151. Interestingly, he doesn't mention
EINVAL at all.
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3151/
That's right. It is based on a survey of existing exception-c
On 12:21 pm, m...@egenix.com wrote:
Tarek Ziad� wrote:
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:06 AM, P.J. Eby
wrote:
..
So without specific examples of why this is a problem, it's hard to
see why
a special Python-specific set of configuration files is needed to
resolve
it, vs. say, encouraging applicat
On 01:27 pm, m...@egenix.com wrote:
exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
On 12:21 pm, m...@egenix.com wrote:
See Zope for an example of how well this simply mechanism works out
in
practice: it simply scans the "Products" namespace for sub-packages
and
then loads each sub-package it finds to hav
On 03:08 pm, mer...@netwok.org wrote:
Le 02/08/2010 14:31, exar...@twistedmatrix.com a �crit :
On 12:21 pm, m...@egenix.com wrote:
Do we really need to make Python packaging even more complicated by
adding support for application-specific plugin mechanisms ?
Packages can already work as applic
On 02:51 pm, ba...@python.org wrote:
On Aug 04, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
I think the issue is that many core developers don't have the reflex
to check buildbot state after they commit some changes (or at least
on a regular, say weekly, basis), and so gradually the buildbots have
On 03:17 pm, fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
On 04/08/2010 16:15, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
On 02:51 pm, ba...@python.org wrote:
On Aug 04, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
I think the issue is that many core developers don't have the reflex
to check buildbot state after they c
On 03:31 pm, ba...@python.org wrote:
On Aug 04, 2010, at 03:15 PM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
On 02:51 pm, ba...@python.org wrote:
On Aug 04, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
I think the issue is that many core developers don't have the reflex
to check buildbot state after they c
On 03:53 pm, g.bra...@gmx.net wrote:
Am 04.08.2010 17:15, schrieb exar...@twistedmatrix.com:
On 02:51 pm, ba...@python.org wrote:
On Aug 04, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
I think the issue is that many core developers don't have the reflex
to check buildbot state after they commit s
On 05:22 pm, gl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
On Aug 31, 2010, at 10:03 AM, Guido van Rossum wrote:
On Linux you can look somewhere in /proc, but I don't know that it
would help you find where a file was opened.
"/dev/fd" is actually a somewhat portable way of getting this
information. I don'
On 01:33 pm, p...@phd.pp.ru wrote:
Hello. Thank you for the offer!
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 06:36:10PM +0530, Prashant Kumar wrote:
My name is Prashant Kumar and I wish to contribute to the Python
development
process by helping convert certain existing python
over to python3k.
Is there anyway
On 02:34 pm, p...@phd.pp.ru wrote:
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 02:02:59PM -, exar...@twistedmatrix.com
wrote:
On 01:33 pm, p...@phd.pp.ru wrote:
As there is already Python 3.2 alpha, the core of Python has
already
been ported
How about the email package?
What about email? It is a core
On 01:13 am, st...@holdenweb.com wrote:
I see that Atlassian have just taken over BitBucket, the Mercurial
hosting company. IIRC Atlassian offered to host our issue tracking on
JIRA, but in the end we decided to eat our own dog food and went with
roundup.
I'm wondering if they'd be similarly int
On 02:47 pm, jnol...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Guido van Rossum
wrote:
I would like to recommend that the Python core developers start using
a code review tool such as Rietveld or Reviewboard. I don't really
care which tool we use (I'm sure there are plenty of pros and c
On 04:50 pm, j...@jcea.es wrote:
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Current Python lacks support for "aio_*" syscalls to do async IO. I
think this could be a nice addition for python 3.3.
Adding more platform wrappers is always nice. Keep in mind that the
quality of most (all?) ai
On 01:37 am, gl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote:
On Oct 19, 2010, at 8:09 PM, James Y Knight wrote:
There's a difference.
os._exit is useful. os.open is useful. aio_* are *not* useful. For
anything. If there's anything you think you want to use them for,
you're wrong. It either won't work properl
On 02:13 pm, stefan...@behnel.de wrote:
Benjamin Peterson, 22.10.2010 16:03:
2010/10/22 Stefan Behnel:
since SVN rev. 85392, Cython's installation fails on the py3k branch
with a
weird globals error. I think it is related to some sys.modules magic
that we
do in order to support running Cython
On 08:28 pm, pinge...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- On Tue, 10/26/10, "Martin v. L�wis" wrote:
I think this then mandates a PEP; I'm -1 on the feature also.
I am happy to write up a PEP for this feature. I'll start that
process now, though if anyone feels that this idea has no chance of
acceptance pl
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On 07:09 pm, facundobati...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Benjamin Peterson
wrote:
Isn't this usually when you do something like [None]*2**300? In that
case, wouldn't you know how much memory you're requesting?
It could happen on any malloc. It depends on how much you hav
On 04:04 pm, ba...@python.org wrote:
I'd *much* rather this enthusiasm be spent on making Python 3 rock, and
in
porting third party code to Python 3.
Enthusiasm isn't fungible.
Jean-Paul
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On 02:51 am, br...@python.org wrote:
2010/10/28 Kristj�n Valur J�nsson :
Hi all.
This has been a lively discussion.
My desire to keep 2.x alive in some sense is my own and I don't know
if anyone shares it but as a member of this community I think I'm
allowed to voice it. So, just to clari
On 04:29 pm, fuzzy...@voidspace.org.uk wrote:
On 02/11/2010 16:23, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 11/2/2010 10:05 AM, C. Titus Brown wrote:
...but, as someone who has to figure out how to teach stuff to CSE
undergrads
(and biology grads) I hate the statement "...any programmer should
expect this..."
On 12:47 am, ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote:
Antoine Pitrou writes:
I don't agree with this. Until it's documented, it's an implementation
detail and should be able to change without notice.
If it's an implementation detail, shouldn't it be named as one (i.e.
with a leading underscore)?
If
On 06:28 am, techto...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Glyph Lefkowitz
wrote:
This is the strongest reason why I recommend to everyone I know that
they
not use pickle for storage they'd like to keep working after upgrades
[not
just of stdlib, but other 3rd party software or
On 12:21 am, m...@gsites.de wrote:
Am 04.11.2010 17:15, schrieb anatoly techtonik:
> pickle is insecure, marshal too.
If the transport or storage layer is not save, you should
cryptographically sign the data anyway::
def pickle_encode(data, key):
msg = base64.b64encode(pickle.dump
nstruct
from <http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/browser/sandbox/exarkun/force-
builds.py> (which is what the Twisted project uses). Plus, you can add
?branch= to most BuildBot views to limit display of results to
just builds for the named branch.
Titus, for example, alluded to some nifty way
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