On Friday 18 September 2009 06:39:57 Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
A one-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people eater?
{Which brings up the confusing question... Is the eater purple, or does
it eat purple people (which is why it is so rare... it only eats people
caught in the last stages
Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
A one-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people eater?
{Which brings up the confusing question... Is the eater purple, or does
it eat purple people (which is why it is so rare... it only eats people
caught in the last stages of suffocation G)}
Since we're spending so
En Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:33:47 -0300, Greg Ewing
greg.ew...@canterbury.ac.nz escribió:
Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
In any case, it doesn't affect my point, which was that
I was thinking about something that I didn't have a word,
or even a convenient phrase for.
That is probably true, but on the
On 9/19/2009 11:33 PM Greg Ewing said...
It's possible that some individuals do this more
frequently than others, e.g. mathematicians and other
people who are in the habit of exploring new ideas may
be less influenced by the constraints of language
than the general population.
As I recall
Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
Yikes! If I follow you, it is a bit like having a hollow dumb-bell with a
hollow handle of zero length, and wanting a word for that opening between the
knobs.
That's pretty much it, yes. Although opening doesn't
quite cut it, because there can be two of them
2009/9/19 r rt8...@gmail.com:
Snap (sort of).
Does anybody know where the concept of the purple people eater comes
from?
I mean is there a children's book or something?
- Hendrik
I've always assumed it to go back to the 1958 Sheb Wooley song. Which
I remember, although I was only 3 when it
greg wrote:
So in my humble opinion, the strong form of the Sapir-Whorf
hypothesis is bunk. :-)
It also seems not to have been their hypothesis ;-). from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapir-Whorf_hypothesis
Since neither Sapir nor Whorf had ever stated an actual hypothesis,
Lenneberg
On Sep 19, 2:12 am, greg g...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz wrote:
Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
there would be no way for a language to change
and grow, if it were literally true that you cannot think of something that
you have no word for.
From my own experience, I know that it's possible for
On Thursday 17 September 2009 15:29:38 Tim Rowe wrote:
There are good reasons for it falling out of favour, though. At the
time of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, anthropologists were arguing that
members of a certain remote tribe did not experience grief on the
death of a child because their
On Friday 18 September 2009 06:39:57 Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
A one-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people eater?
{Which brings up the confusing question... Is the eater purple, or does
it eat purple people (which is why it is so rare... it only eats people
caught in the last stages of
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Hendrik van Rooyen
hend...@microcorp.co.za wrote:
Does anybody know where the concept of the purple people eater comes from?
I mean is there a children's book or something?
- Hendrik
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purple_People_Eater
--
On Friday 18 September 2009 06:39:57 Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
(snip)
Snap (sort of).
Does anybody know where the concept of the purple people eater comes
from?
I mean is there a children's book or something?
- Hendrik
Where is the one eyed, one horned, lavender (antiquated) language
eater i ask!
Hendrik van Rooyen hend...@microcorp.co.za wrote:
The opposite thing is of course a continual source of trouble - we all have
words for stuff we have never seen,
like dragon, ghost, goblin, leprechaun, the current King of
France, God, Allah, The Holy Trinity, Lucifer, Satan, Griffin -
2009/9/15 Hendrik van Rooyen hend...@microcorp.co.za:
On Monday 14 September 2009 14:06:36 Christopher Culver wrote:
This is the old Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, which fell out of favour among
linguists half a century ago already. 1) Language does not constrain
human thought, and 2) any two human
On 2009-09-15, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
Are you telling us people using a language that does not have a word
for window somehow cannot comprehend what a window is, are you mad
man? Words are simply text attributes attached to objects. the text
attribute doesn't change the object in any way.
On Sep 18, 2:39 pm, Dennis Lee Bieber wlfr...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Granted, a proper version would use a class where the two Venus
objects have a different description...
I think I'd be more inclined to model Venus and treat the others as
views :)
--
r wrote:
On Sep 15, 4:12 am, Hendrik van Rooyen hend...@microcorp.co.za
wrote:
(snip)
When a language lacks a word for a concept like window, then (I
believe :-) ), it kind of puts a crimp in the style of thinking that a
person will do, growing up with only that language.
Are you telling us
r wrote:
Not that I agree that it would be a Utopia, whatever the language - more like
a nightmare of Orwellian proportions - because the language you get taught
first, moulds the way you think. And I know from personal experience that
there are concepts that can be succinctly expressed in
r wrote:
You're on a slippery slope when you claim that people deserve whatever
mistreatment or misfortune comes their way through mere circumstances
of birth. I suggest you step back and actually read your messages
again and consider how others might interpret them.
Paul: civilizations rise
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 18:22:30 Christopher Culver wrote:
Hendrik van Rooyen hend...@microcorp.co.za writes:
2) Is about as useful as stating that any Turing complete language and
processor pair is capable of solving any computable problem, given enough
time. So why are we not all
On Tuesday 15 September 2009 19:04:10 r wrote:
On Sep 15, 4:12 am, Hendrik van Rooyen hend...@microcorp.co.za
wrote:
(snip)
When a language lacks a word for a concept like window, then (I
believe :-) ), it kind of puts a crimp in the style of thinking that a
person will do, growing up
Lie Ryan wrote:
r wrote:
On Sep 15, 4:12 am, Hendrik van Rooyen hend...@microcorp.co.za
wrote:
(snip)
When a language lacks a word for a concept like window, then (I
believe :-) ), it kind of puts a crimp in the style of thinking that a
person will do, growing up with only that language.
Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com writes:
well allegedly, the medium is the message so we also need to take
account of language in addition to the meaning of communications. I
don't believe all languages are equivalent in the meanings that they
can encode or convey. Our mathematics is heavily
On Sep 14, 1:24 pm, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
r wrote:
So how many letters do we need? 50, 100, 1000?
From Wikipedia IPA article:
Occasionally symbols are added, removed, or modified by the
International Phonetic Association. As of 2008, there are 107 distinct
letters, 52
On Monday 14 September 2009 14:06:36 Christopher Culver wrote:
This is the old Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, which fell out of favour among
linguists half a century ago already. 1) Language does not constrain
human thought, and 2) any two human languages are both capable of
expressing the same
Hendrik van Rooyen hend...@microcorp.co.za writes:
2) Is about as useful as stating that any Turing complete language and
processor pair is capable of solving any computable problem, given enough
time. So why are we not all programming in brainfuck?
Except the amount of circumlocution one
On Sep 14, 5:05 am, Christopher Culver
crcul...@christopherculver.com wrote:
Hyuga hyugaricd...@gmail.com writes:
I just wanted to add, in defense of the Chinese written language
... that I think it would make a fairly good candidate for use at
least as a universal *written* language.
On Sep 15, 4:12 am, Hendrik van Rooyen hend...@microcorp.co.za
wrote:
(snip)
When a language lacks a word for a concept like window, then (I
believe :-) ), it kind of puts a crimp in the style of thinking that a
person will do, growing up with only that language.
Are you telling us people
Christopher Culver wrote:
Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com writes:
well allegedly, the medium is the message so we also need to take
account of language in addition to the meaning of communications. I
don't believe all languages are equivalent in the meanings that they
can encode or convey. Our
Hyuga hyugaricd...@gmail.com writes:
I just wanted to add, in defense of the Chinese written language
... that I think it would make a fairly good candidate for use at
least as a universal *written* language. Particularly simplified
Chinese since, well, it's simpler.
The advantages are that
r wrote:
...
What makes you think that diversity is lost with a single language? I
say more pollination will occur and the seed will be more potent since
all parties will contribute to the same pool. Sure there will be
idioms of different regions but that is to be expected. But at least
On Sep 14, 6:06 am, Christopher Culver
crcul...@christopherculver.com wrote:
Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com writes:
well allegedly, the medium is the message so we also need to take
account of language in addition to the meaning of communications. I
don't believe all languages are
On Aug 30, 2:19 pm, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 29, 11:05 pm, Anny Mous b1540...@tyldd.com wrote:
(snip)
How do we distinguish resume from résumé without accents?
This is another quirk of some languages that befuddles me. What is
with the ongoing language pronunciation tutorial some
ru...@yahoo.com wrote:
On Sep 14, 6:06 am, Christopher Culver
crcul...@christopherculver.com wrote:
Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com writes:
well allegedly, the medium is the message so we also need to take
account of language in addition to the meaning of communications. I
don't believe all
ru...@yahoo.com writes:
Fashion changes in science as well as clothes. :-)
A favourite line of crackpots who think that their ridiculous position
is not held by others merely because of fashion.
I wouldn't count
Sapir-Whorf out yet...
On Sep 14, 6:00 am, Robin Becker ro...@reportlab.com wrote:
(snip)
well allegedly, the medium is the message so we also need to take account of
language in addition to the meaning of communications. I don't believe all
languages are equivalent in the meanings that they can encode or convey. Our
On Sep 14, 9:05 am, Mel mwil...@the-wire.com wrote:
(snip)
Worf was raised as a Klingon, so you can expect this. If he'd been brought
up speaking Minbari, points 1 and 2 would have been obvious to him.
Mel.
Yes Klingon's are a product of their moronic society, not their
moronic
On Sep 14, 9:11 am, Processor-Dev1l processor.de...@gmail.com wrote:
(snip)
Well, I am from one of the non-English speaking countries (Czech
Republic). We were always messed up with windows-1250 or iso-8859-2.
Unicode is really great thing for us and for our developers.
Yes you need the
On Sep 14, 9:23 am, Christopher Culver
crcul...@christopherculver.com wrote:
(snip)
That researcher does not say that language *constrains* thought, which
was the assertion of the OP and of the strict form of the Sapir-Whorf
hypothesis. She merely says that it may influence thought.
*I* am the
r wrote:
So how many letters do we need? 50, 100, 1000?
From Wikipedia IPA article:
Occasionally symbols are added, removed, or modified by the
International Phonetic Association. As of 2008, there are 107 distinct
letters, 52 diacritics, and four prosody marks in the IPA proper.
--
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 19:24:44 +0100, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
r wrote:
So how many letters do we need? 50, 100, 1000?
From Wikipedia IPA article:
Occasionally symbols are added, removed, or modified by the
International Phonetic Association. As of 2008, there are 107 distinct
On Sep 10, 8:43 pm, Jan Claeys use...@janc.be wrote:
Maybe we should use a language that has a Turing-complete grammar, so
that even computers can understand speak it easily?
Interesting, i do find some things more easily explainable using code,
however, code losses the ability to describe
Op Sun, 30 Aug 2009 15:28:55 -0700, schreef r:
I said it before and i will say it again. I DONT CARE WHAT LANGUAGE WE
USE AS LONG AS IT IS A MODERN LANGUAGE FOUNDED ON IDEALS OF
SIMPLICITY
Maybe we should use a language that has a Turing-complete grammar, so
that even computers can
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 03:16:03PM EDT, r wrote:
[..]
Bring on the metric system Terry, i have been waiting all my life!!
Now, if we can only convince those 800 million Mandarin Chinese
speakers... *ahem* Do we have a Chinese translator in the house?
:-)
Between the idea
And the
On Sep 1, 9:48 am, steve st...@lonetwin.net wrote:
(snip)
I think you are confusing simplicity with uniformity.
Uniformity is not always good. Sure standardizing on units of measure and
airline codes is good, but expecting everyone to speak one language is akin to
expecting everyone to wear
En Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:49:57 -0300, r rt8...@gmail.com escribió:
On Sep 1, 1:52 pm, Hyuga hyugaricd...@gmail.com wrote:
(snip)
I'd say don't feel the troll, but too late for that I guess.
The only trolls in this thread are you and the others who breaks into
MY THREAD just for the knee-jerk
On Wednesday 02 September 2009 08:52:55 Gabriel Genellina wrote:
En Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:49:57 -0300, r rt8...@gmail.com escribió:
On Sep 1, 1:52 pm, Hyuga hyugaricd...@gmail.com wrote:
(snip)
I'd say don't feel the troll, but too late for that I guess.
The only trolls in this thread
This thread has intrigued me enough to bite the bullet and look up r's
posts. Oh my! They say a little learning is a dangerous thing, and this
is a great example -- the only think bigger than r's ignorance and
naivety on these topics is his confidence that he alone understands The
Truth. Oh
En Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:58:43 -0300, Hendrik van Rooyen
hend...@microcorp.co.za escribió:
On Wednesday 02 September 2009 08:52:55 Gabriel Genellina wrote:
Bueno, voy a escribir en el segundo lenguaje más hablado en el mundo
(español), después del mandarín (con más de 1000 millones de
Gabriel Genellina wrote:
Looks like we all will have to learn mandarin! A nice language but with a
high entrance barrier for western people.
It will pay off in the long run. Problem for me: it seems most people in
Toronto speak Cantonese. That's just something I'll have to deal with.
Wrote
On Sep 2, 4:41 am, Steven D'Aprano
ste...@remove.this.cybersource.com.au wrote:
(snip)
No evolution awards those that benefit evolution. You make it seem as
evolution is some loving mother hen, quite the contrary! Evolution is
selfish, greedy, and sometimes evil. And it will endure all of
r wrote:
I'd like to present a bug report to evolution, obviously the garbage
collector is malfunctioning.
I think most people think that when they read the drivel that you generate.
I'm done with your threads and posts.
*plonk*
--
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Nigel Rantor wig...@wiggly.org writes:
Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
On Sunday 30 August 2009 22:46:49 Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
Rather elitist viewpoint... Why don't we just drop nukes on some 60%
of populated landmasses that don't have a western culture and avoid
the whole problem?
Now
Well despite all my rantings over Unicode i highly doubt Guido will
remove it from Python or any other language devs will follow suit. As
i pointed out the real issue is not so much a Unicode problem (which
is just a monkey patch) but stems from the multi-language problem.
I think a correlation
r wrote:
Well despite all my rantings over Unicode i highly doubt Guido will
remove it from Python or any other language devs will follow suit. As
i pointed out the real issue is not so much a Unicode problem (which
is just a monkey patch) but stems from the multi-language problem.
Unicode is
Am 01.09.2009 um 09:39 schrieb Terry Reedy:
But this same problem also extends into monies, nation states, units
of measure, etc.
There is, of course, an international system of measure. The US is
the only major holdout. (I recall Burma, or somesuch, is another.)
An interesting
On 30 Aug, 18:00, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
Hold the phone Paul you are calling me a retarded bigot and i don't
much appreciate that. I think you are completely misinterpreting my
post. i and i ask you read it again especially this part...
I didn't call you a retarded bigot, and yet I did
On 31 Aug, 00:28, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
I said it before and i will say it again. I DONT CARE WHAT LANGUAGE
WE USE AS LONG AS IT IS A MODERN LANGUAGE FOUNDED ON IDEALS OF
SIMPLICITY
[Esperanto]
English is by far already the de-facto lingua franca throughout the
world.
You don't
Kurt Mueller wrote:
Am 01.09.2009 um 09:39 schrieb Terry Reedy:
But this same problem also extends into monies, nation states, units
of measure, etc.
There is, of course, an international system of measure. The US is the
only major holdout. (I recall Burma, or somesuch, is another.) An
On Aug 30, 1:08 pm, Nobody nob...@nowhere.com wrote:
(snip)
Because that would be the likely consequence of such a stance. Japanese
websites will continue to use Shift-JIS, Japanese cellphones (or
Scandanavian cellphones aimed at the Japanese market, for that matter)
will continue to render
I'm a lurker on this list and am here more to learn rather than teach and
although better sense tells me not to feed the troll -- I'll bite.
Mainly because, r, unlike XL does seem to offer help every one in a while.
So, ...
On 08/31/2009 03:58 AM, r wrote:
On Aug 30, 2:05 pm, Paul
SI is preferred,
but Imperial is permitted.
IME most people in the UK under the age of 40 can speak SI without trouble.
On the other hand, let's nip down to the pub for 580ml of beer just
doesn't have the right ring to it ;-)
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:17:00 -0700, Matthew Barnett
On Aug 29, 8:20 pm, John Machin sjmac...@lexicon.net wrote:
On Aug 30, 8:46 am, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
Take for instance the Chinese language with it's thousands of
characters and BS, it's more of an art than a language. Why do we
need such complicated languages in this day and time.
On Sep 1, 2:39 am, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
(snip)
There is, of course, an international system of measure. The US is the
only major holdout. (I recall Burma, or somesuch, is another.) An
interesting proposition would be for the US to adopt the metric system
in exchange for the rest
r wrote:
On Sep 1, 2:39 am, Terry Reedy tjre...@udel.edu wrote:
(snip)
There is, of course, an international system of measure. The US is the
only major holdout. (I recall Burma, or somesuch, is another.) An
interesting proposition would be for the US to adopt the metric system
in exchange for
On Sep 1, 1:52 pm, Hyuga hyugaricd...@gmail.com wrote:
(snip)
I'd say don't feel the troll, but too late for that I guess.
The only trolls in this thread are you and the others who breaks into
MY THREAD just for the knee-jerk reaction of troll calling! Even
though you *did* offer some argument
The only trolls in this thread are you and the others who breaks into
MY THREAD just for the knee-jerk reaction of troll calling!
How does this make one's opinion any less relevant? I think the fact that
you are coming across in this thread as closed-minded, bigoted, and
uninformed gives
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 08:35:46 -0700, Rami Chowdhury wrote:
SI is preferred,
but Imperial is permitted.
IME most people in the UK under the age of 40 can speak SI without
trouble.
On the other hand, let's nip down to the pub for 580ml of beer just
doesn't have the right ring to it ;-)
On Sep 1, 6:06 pm, Rami Chowdhury rami.chowdh...@gmail.com wrote:
(snip: trolling tirade)
I don't think when i started this thread i had any intentions what-so-
ever of pleasing asinine-anthropologist, sociology-sickos, or neo-nazi-
linguist. No, actually i am quite sure of that is the case!
--
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:29:54 -0700, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
[snip: variety of almost-alliterative epithets]
Well, if you admit you set out to offend people, then you're trolling.
--
Rami Chowdhury
Never attribute to malice that which can be attributed to stupidity --
Hanlon's Razor
On Sunday 30 August 2009 22:46:49 Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
Rather elitist viewpoint... Why don't we just drop nukes on some 60%
of populated landmasses that don't have a western culture and avoid
the whole problem?
Now yer talking, boyo! It will surely help with the basic problem which
Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
On Sunday 30 August 2009 22:46:49 Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
Rather elitist viewpoint... Why don't we just drop nukes on some 60%
of populated landmasses that don't have a western culture and avoid
the whole problem?
Now yer talking, boyo! It will surely help
No need to feed the troll by actually trying to engage in the discussion,
but just FYI:
Sanskrit is mostly written in Devanagari these days which is also
useful for selling things to people who speak Hindi and other Indian
languages.
Devanagari is what's used for Hindi and a handful of
On 8/31/2009 10:41 AM Dennis Lee Bieber said...
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:36:46 +0100, Nigel Rantor wig...@wiggly.org
snip
Also, I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Esperanto yet. Sounds like
something r and Xah would *love*.
Hmmm, thought I had mentioned Esperanto (and Klingon)
Just
Chris Jones:
Is the implication that the principal usefulness of such languages as
Hindi and other Indian languages is us selling things to them..?
Unicode was developed by a group of US corporations: Xerox, Apple,
Sun, Microsoft, ... The main motivation was to avoid dealing with
multiple
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:22:00 -0400, Chris Jones wrote:
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:07:17PM EDT, Neil Hodgson wrote:
Benjamin Peterson:
Like Sanskrit or Snowman language?
Sanskrit is mostly written in Devanagari these days which is also
useful for selling things to people who speak Hindi
r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
Some may say well how can we possibly force countries/people to speak/
code in a uniform manner? Well that's simple, you just stop supporting
their cryptic languages by dumping Unicode and returning to the
beautiful ASCII and adopting English as the universal world
* r (Sat, 29 Aug 2009 18:30:34 -0700 (PDT))
We don't support a Python group in Chinese or French, so why this?
We do - you don't (or to be more realistic, you simply didn't know
it).
Makes no sense to me really.
Like probably 99.9% of all things you hear, read, see and encounter
during
* Neil Hodgson (Sun, 30 Aug 2009 06:17:14 GMT)
Chris Jones:
I am not from these climes but all the same, I do find you tone of
voice rather offensive, considering that you are referring to a
culture that's about 3000 years older and 3000 richer than ours and
certainly deserves our
* Chris Jones (Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:22:00 -0400)
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:07:17PM EDT, Neil Hodgson wrote:
Sanskrit is mostly written in Devanagari these days which is also
useful for selling things to people who speak Hindi and other Indian
languages.
Is the implication that the
r rt8396 at gmail.com writes:
Why should the larger world
keep supporting such antiquated languages and character sets through
Unicode? What purpose does this serve? Are we merely trying to make
everyone happy? A sort of Utopian free-language-love-fest-kinda-
thing?
Can you go and troll
* John Machin (Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:20:47 -0700 (PDT))
On Aug 30, 8:46 am, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
Take for instance the Chinese language with it's thousands of
characters and BS, it's more of an art than a language. Why do we
need such complicated languages in this day and time. Many
On Sunday 30 August 2009 02:20:47 John Machin wrote:
On Aug 30, 8:46 am, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
Take for instance the Chinese language with it's thousands of
characters and BS, it's more of an art than a language. Why do we
need such complicated languages in this day and time. Many
On Aug 29, 11:05 pm, Anny Mous b1540...@tyldd.com wrote:
(snip)
How do we distinguish resume from résumé without accents?
This is another quirk of some languages that befuddles me. What is
with the ongoing language pronunciation tutorial some languages have
turned into -- French is a good
On Aug 30, 3:33 am, Thorsten Kampe thors...@thorstenkampe.de wrote:
[snip ridiculous trolling]
Thorsten
Hmm, I wonder who's sock puppet you are Thorsten?
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On Aug 30, 7:11 am, Hendrik van Rooyen hend...@microcorp.co.za
wrote:
(snip)
Not that I agree that it would be a Utopia, whatever the language - more like
a nightmare of Orwellian proportions - because the language you get taught
first, moulds the way you think. And I know from personal
On 30 Aug, 14:49, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
It can be made better and if that means add/removing letters or
redefining what a letter represents i am fine with that. I know first
hand the hypocrisy of the English language. I am thinking more on the
lines of English redux!
Elsewhere in this
On Sunday 30 August 2009 15:37:19 r wrote:
What makes you think that diversity is lost with a single language?
I am quite sure of this - it goes deeper than mere regional differences - your
first language forms the way you think - and if we all get taught the same
language, then on a very
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 22:14:55 -0700, John Nagle wrote:
(I wish the HTML standards people would do the same. HTML 5
should have been ASCII only (with the escapes if desired)
or Unicode. No Latin-1, no upper code pages, no JIS, etc.)
IOW, you want the HTML standards to continue to be
30-08-2009 o 14:11:15 Hendrik van Rooyen hend...@microcorp.co.za wrote:
a nightmare of Orwellian proportions - because the language you get
taught first, moulds the way you think. And I know from personal
experience that
there are concepts that can be succinctly expressed in one language,
On Aug 29, 7:22 pm, Neil Hodgson nyamatongwe+thun...@gmail.com
wrote:
Wow, I like this world you live in: all that altruism!
Well if i don't who will? *shrugs*
Unicode was
developed by corporations from the US left coast in order to sell their
products in foreign markets at minimal cost.
On Aug 30, 4:47 pm, Dennis Lee Bieber wlfr...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:05:24 +1000, Anny Mous b1540...@tyldd.com
declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general:
Have you thought about the difference between China, with one culture and
one spoken language for
On Aug 30, 7:11 am, Hendrik van Rooyen hend...@microcorp.co.za
wrote:
(snip)
I suspect that the alphabet is not ideal for representing the sounds of _any_
language, and I would look for my proof in the plethora of things that we use
when writing, other than the bare A-Z. - Punctuation,
On Aug 30, 10:09 am, Paul Boddie p...@boddie.org.uk wrote:
On 30 Aug, 14:49, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
Then you aren't paying attention.
...(snip: defamation of character)
Hold the phone Paul you are calling me a retarded bigot and i don't
much appreciate that. I think you are completely
Would someone please point me to one example where this sociology or
anthropology crap has ever improved our day to day lives or moved use
into the future with great innovation? A life spend studying this
mumbo-jumbo is a complete waste of time when many other far more
important and *real*
So why the heck are we supporting such capitalistic implementations as
Unicode. Sure we must support a winders installer but Unicode, dump
it! We don't support a Python group in Chinese or French, so why this?
Makes no sense to me really. Let M$ deal with it.
Who, exactly, do you think we
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 07:12:26PM EDT, Stephen Hansen wrote:
Unicode (*puke*) seems nothing more than a brain fart of morons. And
sadly it was created by CS majors who i assumed used logic and
deductive reasoning but i must be wrong. Why should the larger world
keep supporting such
On Aug 30, 8:46 am, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
Take for instance the Chinese language with it's thousands of
characters and BS, it's more of an art than a language. Why do we
need such complicated languages in this day and time. Many languages
have been perfected, (although not perfect) far
r:
Unicode (*puke*) seems nothing more than a brain fart of morons. And
sadly it was created by CS majors who i assumed used logic and
deductive reasoning but i must be wrong. Why should the larger world
keep supporting such antiquated languages and character sets through
Unicode? What
On Aug 29, 7:20 pm, John Machin sjmac...@lexicon.net wrote:
On Aug 30, 8:46 am, r rt8...@gmail.com wrote:
The Chinese language is more widely spoken than English, is quite
capable of expression in ASCII (r tongzhi shi sha gua) and doesn't
have those pesky it's/its problems.
Oh yes of course
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