On 06/08/2018 11:54 AM, Markos wrote:
Hi,
I'm starting my studies with Python 3 on Debian 9 that I just installed.
I have to install the matplotlib module, but I am in doubt what is the
difference of the commands:
pip3 install matplotlib
or
apt-get install python3-matplotlib
Is there
On 06/18/2018 12:52 PM, Rhodri James wrote:
On 18/06/18 19:34, Jim Lee wrote:
Type hints are just that - hints. They have no syntactic meaning to
the parser,
This is plainly not true, otherwise the parser would be throwing
syntax errors at you all the time. Whether they have semantic
On 06/18/2018 11:01 AM, Ian Kelly wrote:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 11:39 AM Jim Lee wrote:
On 06/18/2018 07:03 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
As a human programmer, you surely perform your own ad hoc type checking
when you write and debug code.
Of course. And, I use linting tools and other
On 06/18/2018 11:18 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
What, fundamentally, is the difference between type hints and
assertions, such that - in
your view - one gets syntax and the other is just comments?
Type hints are just that - hints. They have no syntactic meaning to the
parser, and do not
On 06/18/2018 11:49 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 4:34 AM, Jim Lee wrote:
On 06/18/2018 11:18 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
What, fundamentally, is the difference between type hints and assertions,
such that - in
your view - one gets syntax and the other is just comments
On 06/18/2018 10:46 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 3:34 AM, Jim Lee wrote:
On 06/18/2018 07:03 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
As a human programmer, you surely perform your own ad hoc type checking
when you write and debug code.
Of course. And, I use linting tools
On 06/15/2018 05:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Rob Gaddi
wrote:
On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
My favorite acronym of all time is TWAIN
Really? I always thought it didn't scan.
Having spent way WAY too many hours trying to turn documents
On 06/15/2018 07:08 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 6/15/18 9:00 PM, Jim Lee wrote:
On 06/15/2018 05:00 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Rob Gaddi
wrote:
On 06/15/2018 11:44 AM, Larry Martell wrote:
My favorite acronym of all time is TWAIN
Really? I always
On 06/16/2018 12:38 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 9:14:13 PM UTC-5, Richard Damon wrote:
if the Windows driver broke some specification but still sort
of worked [...]
...that's when the engineers in the Redmond, WA area know it's time to package
and ship the product!
On 06/16/2018 08:36 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 6/15/18 11:07 PM, Jim Lee wrote:
[snip]
I once had a Mustek color scanner that came with a TWAIN driver. If
the room temperature was above 80 degrees F, it would scan in color -
otherwise, only black & white. I was *sure* it was a hard
On 06/18/2018 07:03 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
As a human programmer, you surely perform your own ad hoc type checking
when you write and debug code.
Of course. And, I use linting tools and other forms of static type
checking. What I don't like is adding the *syntax* for static type
On 06/18/2018 02:36 PM, Schachner, Joseph wrote:
Now that you know that 1) You are not required to modify your source code at
all, even if you want to get full utility from typing, and 2) you really don't
have use typing at all, nothing forces you to, and 3) it's been developed by
the
On 06/18/2018 04:09 PM, Gregory Ewing wrote:
Peter Otten wrote:
"folk etymology" would be the retrofitting of the exotic "Schottky"
into two familiar words "shot" and "key". Sometimes the writer
assumes that these words are somehow related to the labeled object.
Well, there is a thing
On 06/13/2018 07:56 PM, Sharan Basappa wrote:
The term mutable appears quite often in Python.
Can anyone explain what is meant by mutable and immutable sequences.
Mutable means changeable, and immutible means not mutable, or unchangeable.
For example, Python lists are mutable.
BTW, is the
On 06/13/2018 11:38 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Jim Lee wrote:
I haven't purchased commercial software in decades, so I'm not up on the
prevailing business model, but I have to ask:
Why would anyone purchase software and then agree to wait 14 weeks
On 06/17/2018 12:08 AM, Jach Fong wrote:
C:\Python34\Doc>py
Python 3.4.4 (v3.4.4:737efcadf5a6, Dec 20 2015, 19:28:18) [MSC v.1600
32 bit (Intel)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import tkinter as tk
>>> root = tk.Tk()
>>> tk.Label(root,
On 06/16/2018 10:13 PM, Sharan Basappa wrote:
I think I am now confused with format options in Python.
I tried an example as below and both print proper value:
age = 35
print "age is %s" % age
print "age is %d" % age
%run "D:/Projects/Initiatives/machine learning/programs/six.py"
age is 35
On 06/17/2018 11:10 AM, Rick Johnson wrote:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Bart Wrote:
So what's a Type Hint associated with in Python?
Since it is a type *hint*, not a type *declaration*, the
interpreter can and does ignore it.
But yet, the _programmer_ cannot ignore it. Does that make
any sense
On 06/17/2018 02:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
[snip]
My apologies, stuff wrapped and I misread as I skimmed back. You were
the one who used the word "shoehorned". In the same way, that sounds
like you already knew the language, and then someone added extra
features that don't fit. It's not
On 06/17/2018 01:35 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 6:23 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Jim Lee :
IMHO, trying to shoehorn static type checking on top of a dynamically
typed language shows that the wrong language was chosen for the job.
I'm also saddened by the type hinting
On 06/17/2018 01:56 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 6:50 AM, Jim Lee wrote:
On 06/17/2018 01:35 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 6:23 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Jim Lee :
IMHO, trying to shoehorn static type checking on top of a dynamically
typed
On 06/17/2018 05:39 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Jim Lee wrote:
On 06/17/2018 02:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
[snip]
My apologies, stuff wrapped and I misread as I skimmed back. You were
the one who used the word "shoehorned". In the same way, t
On 06/17/2018 10:04 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Jim Lee wrote:
On 06/17/2018 05:39 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Jim Lee wrote:
On 06/17/2018 02:17 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
[snip]
My apologies, stuff wrapped and I misread
On 06/19/2018 04:13 AM, Ed Kellett wrote:
I think
we're all--still--missing the larger point that "easy to remove" is a
completely stupid metric for judging language features. Seriously. Not a
little bit stupid.
Not if you think of the feature as analogous to cancer.
-Jim
--
I haven't purchased commercial software in decades, so I'm not up on the
prevailing business model, but I have to ask:
Why would anyone purchase software and then agree to wait 14 weeks for
it to be delivered? I can see that model for hardware, where material
resources are limited and a
on YouTube, but
that's it. I don't even have to stop or restart anything. It works so
well that I added a wireless HDMI transmitter so that the signal is
available on any TV in the house!
---
Thanks for reading,
--Jim Lee
--
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
the appearance
of entries in the dropdown list. Any pointers?
Thanks,
-Jim Lee
--
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
Oops, I hit "reply" instead of "reply-list" last time. Trying again...
On 06/03/2018 02:01 PM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
Am 03.06.18 um 21:54 schrieb Jim Lee:> import tkinter as tk
from tkinter import ttk
root = tk.Tk()
cb = ttk.Combobox(root)
cb.grid(row=0, colu
On 06/05/2018 12:21 AM, Peter Otten wrote:
Jim Lee wrote:
Oops, I hit "reply" instead of "reply-list" last time. Trying again...
On 06/03/2018 02:01 PM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
Am 03.06.18 um 21:54 schrieb Jim Lee:> import tkinter as tk
from tkinter import
On 06/05/2018 01:33 PM, Erik Martinson via Python-list wrote:
I am trying to dynamically add a site-package to a script that is run as a cron
job. The method adduseristepackages does not seem to do anything.
import sys
import site
On 06/29/18 21:48, dieter wrote:
I do not know "pkg-config". The name seems to indicate an
operating system package; but, it might also be a Python extension
package (less likely).
I would start with the "matplotlib"
installation instructions to look for information about it.
On 06/29/18 07:15, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On 6/28/2018 9:05 PM, Avon wrote:
Being able to send messages by ham radio is useful in disasters as well
as nostalgic. I just don't know what people are doing these days.
Though I haven't heard much of the AX.25 Packet BBS systems in
On 06/29/18 08:05, T Berger wrote:
On Friday, June 29, 2018 at 10:45:10 AM UTC-4, T Berger wrote:
On Thursday, June 28, 2018 at 1:21:32 AM UTC-4, T Berger wrote:
Hi Guys,
Thanks for all the suggestions. I found the problem. I had saved my program in
IDLE and quit out of the shell, and then
On 06/29/18 16:02, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 29Jun2018 10:36, Ethan Furman wrote:
On 06/28/2018 10:52 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 18:33:31 -0700, Ethan Furman wrote:
Perhaps I am using Enum incorrectly, but here is my FederalHoliday
Enum.
Note that date(),
On 07/01/18 18:21, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Guido has been talking about this for a LONG time:
You keep bringing that up. It's not an argument.
People have been talking about taxes for a long, long time. Does it
surprise you that they still do? None of us has a time machine that
will
From: Jim Lee
On 06/24/2018 04:35 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>
> Indeed. That's one of the beauties of Python -- even when there's an
> advanced way to do it, there's generally a simple way too.
>
>
What happened to the Python maxim "There should be oneΓ ÷and preferably on
On 06/27/18 08:49, T Berger wrote:
Why am I getting this error? I'm not sure what additional information I need to
supply, so please let me know.
You asked this question two weeks ago and got several answers. Here is
one of them:
On 06/15/18 10:17, Percival John Hackworth wrote:
On
On 06/27/18 11:45, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
and that closes it,
thanks !!!
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
https://github.com/Abdur-rahmaanJ
Importing variables from a file is dangerous because it can execute
arbitrary code. It should never be done with files provided by the
user.
Using
On 06/27/18 15:19, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jun 2018 12:15:23 -0700, Jim Lee wrote:
It seems a bit silly to me to worry about arbitrary code execution
in
an interpreted language like Python whose default runtime execution
method is to parse the source code directly
From: Jim Lee
On 06/23/2018 11:16 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Jim Lee wrote:
>> There are three locals: a, b, and result. Since result cannot be assigned
>> a value until the list comp has been evaluated, I would expect the comp to
>> re
From: Jim Lee
On 06/23/2018 10:03 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> I'd like to run a quick survey. There is no right or wrong answer, since
> this is about your EXPECTATIONS, not what Python actually does.
>
> Given this function:
>
>
> def test():
> a = 1
> b
From: Jim Lee
On 06/23/2018 11:02 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Jim Lee wrote:
>>
>> On 06/23/2018 10:03 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>>> I'd like to run a quick survey. There is no right or wrong answer, since
>>> this is about y
On 06/24/2018 04:35 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Indeed. That's one of the beauties of Python -- even when there's an
advanced way to do it, there's generally a simple way too.
What happened to the Python maxim "There should be one—and preferably
only one—obvious way to do it"?
-Jim
--
On 06/23/2018 10:03 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I'd like to run a quick survey. There is no right or wrong answer, since
this is about your EXPECTATIONS, not what Python actually does.
Given this function:
def test():
a = 1
b = 2
result = [value for key, value in
On 06/23/2018 11:16 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Jim Lee wrote:
There are three locals: a, b, and result. Since result cannot be assigned
a value until the list comp has been evaluated, I would expect the comp to
return a value of "None"
On 06/23/2018 11:02 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Jim Lee wrote:
On 06/23/2018 10:03 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I'd like to run a quick survey. There is no right or wrong answer, since
this is about your EXPECTATIONS, not what Python actually does.
Given
On 07/02/18 04:01, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 01 Jul 2018 20:51:42 -0700, Jim Lee wrote:
Back before the dot com boom, programmers (generally) knew at least 6,
7, 8 languages.
You obviously didn't know (m)any of the hundreds of thousands of COBOL
programmers.
I did know a handful
On 07/02/18 16:22, Gregory Ewing wrote:
Ian Kelly wrote:
Just because somebody knows a dozen languages
doesn't mean that they can come up with the correct algorithm,
That doesn't mean there's no correlation. Someone who is familiar
with a variety of languages is also very likely to be
On 07/02/18 17:34, Dan Stromberg wrote:
The fact of the matter is the economics have changed a lot since then.
Machine time used to be really expensive compared to developer time.
Today, it's the opposite: developer time is really expensive compared
to machine time.
If you go back
On 07/02/18 17:51, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
For most of us mere mortals, the "ten thousand hours" rule of thumb
applies.
Ten thousand hours should be read as an indefinitely large number
A truly good programmer will be able to learn about the
language being used on the job.
Indeed, if you
On 06/30/18 07:34, Sharan Basappa wrote:
sorry. I mean why my code worked in one case but did not in the other one.
This worked - os.chdir('D:\Projects\Initiatives\machine learning\programs')
This did not work - os.chdir('D:\Projects\Initiatives\machine
learning\programs\assertion')
only
On 06/28/18 18:04, Dan Stromberg wrote:
[snip]
Start an echo server process P that listens on tcp/.
Initiate a connection from a client machine to process P at tcp/. It
works as expected.
Kill P.
Initiate a connection from a client machine to process P at tcp/. It
gives a
On 07/03/18 16:51, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I love watching pedantically precise people panic and dig themselves into
a hole. Since I'm an extremely pedantic person myself, I can recognise it
in others -- especially when they're not as precisely correct as they
think they're being.
It was two
On 07/03/18 19:58, Ben Finney via Python-list wrote:
Jim Lee writes:
If you were to say John had 2 apples, Jane had 4 apples, and Joe had
an indefinite number of apples, how many numbers are we talking about?
Three numbers. And “indefinite” is not one of those numbers. So, no,
that doesn't
On 07/03/18 21:35, Ben Finney wrote:
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer writes:
apart from programming, other questions go like this :
[…]
*cut at this point*
Ooh, I like that last step! How do we make that happen on demand?
You could start by not adding to the noise... :)
--
On 07/03/18 19:31, Chris Angelico wrote:
I've had debates with people about whether "infinity" is a number or
not, but I've never yet heard anyone say that "indefinite" is a
number. Hmm. This could be interesting.
ChrisA
If you were to say John had 2 apples, Jane had 4 apples, and Joe had
On 07/03/18 22:03, Ben Finney wrote:
Jim Lee writes:
I claimed that Steven was using three different numbers to refer to
the time it takes to master a subject:
10,000 hours
an indefinite number
2 years
Yes. He did so in the context of showing that *there is no precise
number
On 07/03/18 21:25, Ben Finney wrote:
Jim Lee writes:
On 07/03/18 19:58, Ben Finney via Python-list wrote:
Jim Lee writes:
If you were to say John had 2 apples, Jane had 4 apples, and Joe had
an indefinite number of apples, how many numbers are we talking about?
Three numbers
On 06/18/2018 09:22 PM, Jach Fong wrote:
Ben Finney at 2018/6/19 PM 10:20 wrote:
Jach Fong writes:
Although it passed the first examination, I have no idea if it can
work correctly in the real application:-)
Neither do I. What is the real-world problem you are trying to solve?
Why do you
On 07/16/18 03:39, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Good for you.
But Python is not a programming language written to satisfy the needs of
people like you, and ONLY people like you.
It is a language written to satisfy the needs of people from Uzbekistan,
and China, and Japan, and India, and Brazil,
On 07/16/18 11:31, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:27:18 -0700, Jim Lee wrote:
Had you actually read my words with *intent* rather than *reaction*, you
would notice that I suggested the *option* of turning off Unicode.
Yes, I know what you wrote, and I read it with intent
On 07/16/18 03:26, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
But the thing is, that complexity is *inherent in the domain*. You can
try to deal with it without Unicode, and as soon as you have users
expecting to use more than one code page, you're doomed.
No, I'm not doomed, because there *are* no other
On 07/16/18 10:40, Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 16/07/18 18:27, Jim Lee wrote:
Obviously, the most vocal representatives of the Python community are
too sensitive about their language to enable rational discussion.
Please moderators ban this person as he's going down the same line as
bartc
On 07/15/18 13:09, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 4:22 AM, James Lee wrote:
On 7/15/2018 3:43 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
No. The real ten billion dollar question is how people in 2018 can stick
their head in the sand and take seriously the position that Latin-1 (let
alone
On 07/15/18 12:37, MRAB wrote:
To me, Unicode and UTF-8 aren't things to be reserved for I18N. I use
them as a matter of course because I find it a lot easier to stick
with just one encoding, one that will work with _any_ text I have.
Which is exactly the same rationale for using any other
On 07/15/18 13:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
It doesn't matter what Twitch is, except for the fact that it is a
platform for HUMANS to communicate with HUMANS. Ultimately, that is
what matters. Pick any other web site or communication protocol you
please.
ChrisA
Yes, and for *that*, language
On 07/15/18 16:04, Chris Angelico wrote:
You claimed that Unicode was insignificant to many programs. I'm
trying to say that a Unicode text string is a vital part of any
program that works with text, which is pretty much anything that talks
to humans. You keep saying that ... well you keep
On 07/15/18 14:50, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Jim Lee :
Yes, and for *that*, language matters; but, for a vast array of
programming tasks that *don't* involve global communications, it's an
added level of complexity with zero benefit. It would be *nice* to be
able to turn support on or off
On 07/15/18 16:13, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:08 AM, Jim Lee wrote:
On 07/15/18 14:50, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Jim Lee :
Yes, and for *that*, language matters; but, for a vast array of
programming tasks that *don't* involve global communications, it's an
added level
On 07/15/18 16:24, Chris Angelico wrote:
That is why this seems obtuse to me. There is no benefit to going to a
pre-Unicode way of working with text.
ChrisA
In a word - simplicity.
As I said, there are programming situations where the programmer only
needs to deal with a single language
On 07/15/18 14:53, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 7:35 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Christian Gollwitzer :
Am 15.07.18 um 19:25 schrieb Ethan Furman:
The following users are now banned from Python List:
...
BartC
I don't really think that this is appropriate. Bart may have
On 07/15/18 16:55, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 11:22:11 -0700, James Lee wrote:
On 7/15/2018 3:43 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
No. The real ten billion dollar question is how people in 2018 can
stick their head in the sand and take seriously the position that
Latin-1 (let
On 07/15/18 17:18, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 16:08:15 -0700, Jim Lee wrote:
Python3 is intrinsically tied to Unicode for string handling. Therefore,
the Python programmer is forced to deal with it (in all but trivial
cases), rather than given a choice. So I don't understand
On 07/15/18 17:17, MRAB wrote:
On 2018-07-16 00:10, Jim Lee wrote:
On 07/15/18 16:04, Chris Angelico wrote:
You claimed that Unicode was insignificant to many programs. I'm
trying to say that a Unicode text string is a vital part of any
program that works with text, which is pretty much
On 07/15/18 14:53, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 7:02 AM, Jim Lee wrote:
On 07/15/18 13:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
It doesn't matter what Twitch is, except for the fact that it is a
platform for HUMANS to communicate with HUMANS. Ultimately, that is
what matters. Pick any
On 07/15/18 15:07, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 7:57 AM, Jim Lee wrote:
On 07/15/18 14:53, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 7:02 AM, Jim Lee wrote:
On 07/15/18 13:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
It doesn't matter what Twitch is, except for the fact
On 07/14/18 02:09, Christian Gollwitzer wrote:
Am 14.07.18 um 10:00 schrieb Marko Rauhamaa:
Steven D'Aprano :
Apparently Marko didn't notice the irony of suggesting that we display
excessive commitment to GvR
The object of the "cult" isn't GvR, it's Python itself.
I agree with this
On 07/05/18 05:14, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer :
* Create as many functions as you can
performance?
Python?
Seriously, though. The principle of expressive encapsulation is one of
the basic cornerstones of writing computer programs. Performance barely
ever becomes a
On 07/05/18 10:15, Calvin Spealman wrote:
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Jim Lee <mailto:jle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 07/05/18 05:14, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer mailto:arj.pyt...@gmail.com>>:
* Create as many funct
On 07/05/18 10:47, Calvin Spealman wrote:
You say "pitfall", but I say "allow developers to focus on
higher-level problems and enable developers to specialize among tasks
so every single one of us doesn't have to be a jack of all trades just
to build a todo list app".
Sure, that's
On 07/05/18 12:58, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 4:27 AM, Jim Lee wrote:
On 07/05/18 10:47, Calvin Spealman wrote:
You say "pitfall", but I say "allow developers to focus on higher-level
problems and enable developers to specialize among tasks so every s
On 07/05/18 14:15, MRAB wrote:
On 2018-07-05 21:43, Jim Lee wrote:
On 07/05/18 12:58, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 4:27 AM, Jim Lee wrote:
On 07/05/18 10:47, Calvin Spealman wrote:
You say "pitfall", but I say "allow developers to focus on
higher
On 07/05/18 18:14, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 07/05/2018 11:47 AM, Calvin Spealman wrote:
That wasn't me, but I do agree with the sentiment in that its often silly
to focus on them at the wrong time and without constraints that warrant
that focus.
Premature optimization is the root of all
On 07/05/18 18:25, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 11:27:09 -0700, Jim Lee wrote:
Take a village of people. They live mostly on wild berries.
Because of course a community of people living on one food is so
realistic. Even the Eskimos and Inuit, living in some of the harshest
On 07/11/18 07:09, jkn wrote:
Hi All
This is more of a Tkinter question rather than a python one, I think, but
anyway...
I have a Python simulator program with a Model-View_Controller architecture. I
have written the View part using Tkinter in the first instance; later I plan
to use Qt.
On 07/06/18 11:25, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2018-07-06, Jim Lee wrote:
Pedantics again. Didn't even get the point before tearing apart the
*analogy* rather than the *point itself*.
Jim Lee, this is the Internet.
Intenet, this is Jim Lee.
:)
You have an inaccurate anthropomorphic
On 07/06/18 12:57, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 7/5/2018 9:40 PM, Jim Lee wrote:
On 07/05/18 18:25, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 11:27:09 -0700, Jim Lee wrote:
Take a village of people. They live mostly on wild berries.
Because of course a community of people living on one food
On 07/07/18 21:21, Sharan Basappa wrote:
sorry. there was a copy paste error when i posted. I pasted test_2.py for both
the files:
here are the files again. The issue remains.
[...]
output:
%run "D:/Projects/Initiatives/machine learning/programs/test_2_test.py"
30
[11:24 PM jlee@kerndev
On 07/03/18 08:49, T Berger wrote:
It would help if my conversations showed up in my gmail, but they don't. I thought that
would happen when I chose the "Automatically subscribe me to email updates when I
post to a topic" option in the forum settings. Am I wrong? And is there some way to
On 07/03/18 01:34, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I said *indefinite* not infinite.
Yes, you did. My bad.
You did read the article I linked to, right? You know that people don't
suddenly and instantly turn from "beginner" to "expert" when they exceed
9,999 hours 59 minutes and 59 seconds?
On 07/03/18 06:32, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 19:51:29 -0500, Tim Daneliuk
declaimed the following:
Except that the current attempt is to use techniques like agile,
scrum, pair programming, and so forth to turn programming into
a factory activity. High degrees of
On 06/28/18 16:44, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
I agree with you that it's a bad idea.
Aside from the little fact that you described concerns about using Python
code for settings as "silly".
Umm, no. I said that worrying about arbitrary code execution in an
interpreted language seemed silly.
On 06/28/18 00:46, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
Yes, attacks by trusted insiders are the hardest to defend against.
Betrayal of trust sucks. Trusted users with sufficient privileges could
just modify the source code of your application or of Python itself. They
could also attack your system in a
On 06/28/18 07:30, Grant Edwards wrote:
I still maintain it's a bad idea to run arbitrary code found in
user-edited config files.
There may be cases where somebody has figured out how to muck with a
config file that's shared among multiple users, or has tricked
somebody into including
On 06/28/18 07:34, Grant Edwards wrote:
OK, I've got to ask...
Why are there still BBSes?
Who even has a modem these days? [OK, I'll admit my 11 year old
Thinkpad T500 has a built-in POTS modem, but it's never been used.]
BBS's are most often connected to via telnet these days. There are
On 06/28/18 11:45, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2018-06-28, Jim Lee wrote:
On 06/28/18 07:34, Grant Edwards wrote:
OK, I've got to ask...
Why are there still BBSes?
Who even has a modem these days? [OK, I'll admit my 11 year old
Thinkpad T500 has a built-in POTS modem, but it's never been
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