On 05.06.2014 20:52, Ryan Hiebert wrote:
2014-06-05 13:42 GMT-05:00 Johannes Bauer dfnsonfsdu...@gmx.de:
On 05.06.2014 20:16, Paul Rubin wrote:
Johannes Bauer dfnsonfsdu...@gmx.de writes:
line = line[:-1]
Which truncates the trailing \n of a textfile line.
use line.rstrip() for that.
On 05.06.2014 22:18, Ian Kelly wrote:
Personally I tend toward rstrip('\r\n') so that I don't have to worry
about files with alternative line terminators.
Hm, I was under the impression that Python already took care of removing
the \r at a line ending. Checking that right now:
(DOS encoded
On 2014-06-06 10:47, Johannes Bauer wrote:
Personally I tend toward rstrip('\r\n') so that I don't have to
worry about files with alternative line terminators.
Hm, I was under the impression that Python already took care of
removing the \r at a line ending. Checking that right now:
(DOS
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 10:47:44 +0200, Johannes Bauer wrote:
Hm, I was under the impression that Python already took care of removing
the \r at a line ending. Checking that right now:
[snip example]
This is called Universal Newlines. Technically it is a build-time
option which applies when you
On 2014-06-06, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
Roy is using MT-NewsWatcher as a client.
Yes. Except for the fact that it hasn't kept up with unicode, I find
the U/I pretty much perfect. I imagine at some point I'll be force to
look elsewhere, but then again, netnews is pretty much dead.
On 06/06/2014 01:42 AM, Johannes Bauer wrote:
snip
Ah, I didn't know rstrip() accepted parameters and since you wrote
line.rstrip() this would also cut away whitespaces (which sadly are
relevant in odd cases).
No problem. If a parameter is used in the strip() family, than _only_ those
wxjmfa...@gmail.com:
Unicode ?
I have the feeling is similar as explaining,
i (the imaginary number) is not equal to
sqrt(-1).
jmf
PS Once I gave you a link pointing
to unicode.org doc, you obviously did not read it.
Sir, you are an artist, a poet even!
With admiration,
Marko
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On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 00:06:54 -0700, wxjmfauth wrote:
Le mercredi 4 juin 2014 16:50:59 UTC+2, Michael Torrie a écrit :
On 06/04/2014 12:50 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Like many, you are not understanding unicode because
you do not understand the coding of characters.
If that is
On 6/5/14 10:39 AM, alister wrote:
{snipped all the mess}
And you have may time been given a link explaining the problems with
posting g=from google groups but deliberately choose to not make your
replys readable.
The problem is that thing look fine in google groups. What helps is
getting
On 04.06.2014 02:39, Chris Angelico wrote:
I know the collective experience of python-list can't fail to bring up
a few solid examples here :)
Just also grepped lots of code and have surprisingly few instances of
index-search. Most are with constant indices. One particular example
that comes
On 05/06/2014 16:57, Mark H Harris wrote:
On 6/5/14 10:39 AM, alister wrote:
{snipped all the mess}
And you have may time been given a link explaining the problems with
posting g=from google groups but deliberately choose to not make your
replys readable.
The problem is that thing look fine
On 4 June 2014 15:50, Michael Torrie torr...@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/04/2014 12:50 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
[Things]
[Reply to things]
Please. Just don't.
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On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 18:15:31 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:
The problem is that thing look fine in google groups. What helps is
getting to see what the mess looks like from Thunderbird or equivalent.
Wrong. 99.99% of people when asked politely take action so there is no
problem. The
Johannes Bauer dfnsonfsdu...@gmx.de writes:
line = line[:-1]
Which truncates the trailing \n of a textfile line.
use line.rstrip() for that.
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On 05.06.2014 20:16, Paul Rubin wrote:
Johannes Bauer dfnsonfsdu...@gmx.de writes:
line = line[:-1]
Which truncates the trailing \n of a textfile line.
use line.rstrip() for that.
rstrip has different functionality than what I'm doing.
Cheers,
Johannes
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2014-06-05 13:42 GMT-05:00 Johannes Bauer dfnsonfsdu...@gmx.de:
On 05.06.2014 20:16, Paul Rubin wrote:
Johannes Bauer dfnsonfsdu...@gmx.de writes:
line = line[:-1]
Which truncates the trailing \n of a textfile line.
use line.rstrip() for that.
rstrip has different functionality than
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:52 AM, Ryan Hiebert r...@ryanhiebert.com wrote:
2014-06-05 13:42 GMT-05:00 Johannes Bauer dfnsonfsdu...@gmx.de:
On 05.06.2014 20:16, Paul Rubin wrote:
Johannes Bauer dfnsonfsdu...@gmx.de writes:
line = line[:-1]
Which truncates the trailing \n of a textfile line.
Ryan Hiebert r...@ryanhiebert.com writes:
How so? I was using line=line[:-1] for removing the trailing newline, and
just replaced it with rstrip('\n'). What are you doing differently?
rstrip removes all the newlines off the end, whether there are zero or
multiple. In perl the difference is
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:52 AM, Ryan Hiebert r...@ryanhiebert.com wrote:
2014-06-05 13:42 GMT-05:00 Johannes Bauer dfnsonfsdu...@gmx.de:
On 05.06.2014 20:16, Paul Rubin wrote:
Johannes Bauer dfnsonfsdu...@gmx.de
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Paul Rubin no.email@nospam.invalid wrote:
Ryan Hiebert r...@ryanhiebert.com writes:
How so? I was using line=line[:-1] for removing the trailing newline, and
just replaced it with rstrip('\n'). What are you doing differently?
rstrip removes all the newlines off
- Original Message -
From: Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com
To: Python python-list@python.org
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Unicode and Python - how often do you index strings?
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Paul Rubin no.email@nospam.invalid
wrote
In article mailman.10767.1402000635.18130.python-l...@python.org,
Albert-Jan Roskam fo...@yahoo.com wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Ian Kelly ian.g.ke...@gmail.com
To: Python python-list@python.org
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014
10:18 PM
Subject: Re: Unicode
On Friday, June 6, 2014 2:30:26 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
Just for fun, I took a screen-shot of what this looks like in my
newsreader. URL below. Looks like something chomped on unicode pretty
hard :-)
http://www.panix.com/~roy/unicode.pdf
Yii
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In article 8681edf0-7a1f-4110-9f87-a8cd0988c...@googlegroups.com,
Rustom Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, June 6, 2014 2:30:26 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
Just for fun, I took a screen-shot of what this looks like in my
newsreader. URL below. Looks like something chomped on
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Albert-Jan Roskam fo...@yahoo.com wrote:
If you want to be really picky about removing exactly one line
terminator, then this captures all the relatively modern variations:
re.sub('\r?\n$|\n?\r$', line, '', count=1)
or perhaps: re.sub([^ \S]+$, , line)
That
In article mailman.10781.1402009056.18130.python-l...@python.org,
Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote:
In article 8681edf0-7a1f-4110-9f87-a8cd0988c...@googlegroups.com,
Rustom Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, June 6, 2014 2:30:26 AM UTC+5:30, Roy Smith wrote:
Just for fun, I took
In article roy-2a9d82.20100705062...@news.panix.com,
Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
In article mailman.10781.1402009056.18130.python-l...@python.org,
Ned Deily n...@acm.org wrote:
Roy is using MT-NewsWatcher as a client.
Yes. Except for the fact that it hasn't kept up with unicode, I find
Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
sarcasm style=regex-pedantUm, you mean cent(er|re), don't you? The
pattern you wrote also matches centee and centrr./sarcasm
Maybe there's someone who spells it that way!
Come visit Pirate Island, the
On 04/06/2014 01:39, Chris Angelico wrote:
A current discussion regarding Python's Unicode support centres (or
centers, depending on how close you are to the cent[er]{2} of the
universe) around one critical question: Is string indexing common?
Python strings can be indexed with integers to
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Mark Lawrence breamore...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Single characters quite often, iteration rarely if ever, slicing all the
time, but does that last one count?
Yes, slicing counts. What matters here is the potential impact of
internally representing strings as UTF-8
Mark Lawrence wrote:
On 04/06/2014 01:39, Chris Angelico wrote:
A current discussion regarding Python's Unicode support centres (or
centers, depending on how close you are to the cent[er]{2} of the
universe) around one critical question: Is string indexing common?
Python strings can be
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Peter Otten __pete...@web.de wrote:
The indices used for slicing typically don't come out of nowhere. A simple
example would be
def strip_prefix(text, prefix):
if text.startswith(prefix):
text = text[len(prefix):]
return text
If both prefix
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 21:18:12 -0400, Roy Smith wrote:
In article mailman.10656.1401842403.18130.python-l...@python.org,
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
A current discussion regarding Python's Unicode support centres (or
centers, depending on how close you are to the cent[er]{2} of
On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 18:48:29 +1200, Gregory Ewing wrote:
Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
sarcasm style=regex-pedantUm, you mean cent(er|re), don't you? The
pattern you wrote also matches centee and centrr./sarcasm
Maybe there's
On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 4:20:01 PM UTC+5:30, alister wrote:
The language is ENGLISH so the correct spelling is Centre regional
variations my be common but they are incorrect
my?
O mee Oo my -- cockney (or Aussie) pedant??
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Le mercredi 4 juin 2014 02:39:54 UTC+2, Chris Angelico a écrit :
A current discussion regarding Python's Unicode support centres (or
centers, depending on how close you are to the cent[er]{2} of the
universe) around one critical question: Is string indexing common?
Python strings can
On Wed, 04 Jun 2014 05:52:24 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 4:20:01 PM UTC+5:30, alister wrote:
The language is ENGLISH so the correct spelling is Centre regional
variations my be common but they are incorrect
my?
O mee Oo my -- cockney (or Aussie) pedant??
I made
On 06/04/2014 12:50 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Like many, you are not understanding unicode because
you do not understand the coding of characters.
If that is true, then I'm sure a well-written paragraph or two can set
him straight. You continually berate people for not understanding
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com Wrote in message:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:10 PM, Peter Otten __pete...@web.de wrote:
The indices used for slicing typically don't come out of nowhere. A simple
example would be
def strip_prefix(text, prefix):
if text.startswith(prefix):
text =
On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 6:09:54 AM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote:
A current discussion regarding Python's Unicode support centres (or
centers, depending on how close you are to the cent[er]{2} of the
universe) around one critical question: Is string indexing common?
No exactly on-topic for
On 2014-06-04 10:39, Chris Angelico wrote:
A current discussion regarding Python's Unicode support centres (or
centers, depending on how close you are to the cent[er]{2} of the
universe) around one critical question: Is string indexing common?
Python strings can be indexed with integers to
In article mailman.10656.1401842403.18130.python-l...@python.org,
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
A current discussion regarding Python's Unicode support centres (or
centers, depending on how close you are to the cent[er]{2} of the
universe)
sarcasm style=regex-pedantUm, you mean
On 06/03/2014 05:39 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
A current discussion regarding Python's Unicode support centres (or
centers, depending on how close you are to the cent[er]{2} of the
universe) around one critical question: Is string indexing common?
I use it quite a bit, but the strings are
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Roy Smith r...@panix.com wrote:
In article mailman.10656.1401842403.18130.python-l...@python.org,
Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
A current discussion regarding Python's Unicode support centres (or
centers, depending on how close you are to the
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Tim Chase
python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote:
I then take row 2 and use it to make a mapping of header-name to a
slice-object for slicing the subsequent strings:
slice(i.start(), i.end())
print(EmpID = %s % row[header_map[EMPID]].strip())
On 2014-06-04 12:16, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Tim Chase
python.l...@tim.thechases.com wrote:
I then take row 2 and use it to make a mapping of header-name to a
slice-object for slicing the subsequent strings:
slice(i.start(), i.end())
Le jeudi 1 mai 2014 19:21:14 UTC+2, rand...@fastmail.us a écrit :
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014, at 4:57, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Python 3:
- It missed the unicode shift.
- Covering the whole unicode range will not make
Python a unicode compliant product.
Please cite exactly what
Le vendredi 2 mai 2014 05:50:40 UTC+2, Michael Torrie a écrit :
Can't help but feed the troll... forgive me.
On 04/28/2014 02:57 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Python 2.7 + cp1252:
- Solid and coherent system (nothing to do with the Euro).
Except that cp1252 is not unicode.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014, at 4:57, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Python 3:
- It missed the unicode shift.
- Covering the whole unicode range will not make
Python a unicode compliant product.
Please cite exactly what portion of the unicode standard requires
operations with all characters to be
Can't help but feed the troll... forgive me.
On 04/28/2014 02:57 AM, wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote:
Python 2.7 + cp1252:
- Solid and coherent system (nothing to do with the Euro).
Except that cp1252 is not unicode. Perhaps some subset of unicode can
be encoded into bytes using cp1252. But if it
Le samedi 26 avril 2014 15:38:29 UTC+2, Ian a écrit :
On Apr 26, 2014 3:46 AM, Frank Millman fr...@chagford.com wrote:
wxjm...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:03bb12d8-93be-4ef6-94ae-4a02789ae...@googlegroups.com...
==
I wrote once 90 % of Python 2 apps (a
Le samedi 26 avril 2014 15:38:29 UTC+2, Ian a écrit :
On Apr 26, 2014 3:46 AM, Frank Millman fr...@chagford.com wrote:
wxjm...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:03bb12d8-93be-4ef6-94ae-4a02789ae...@googlegroups.com...
==
I wrote once 90 % of Python 2 apps (a
On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:29:13 PM UTC+5:30, Rustom Mody wrote:
On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 1:23:00 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 23:57:46 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
On the other hand when/if a keyboard mapping is defined in which the
characters that are
==
I wrote once 90 % of Python 2 apps (a generic term) supposed to
process text, strings are not working.
In Python 3, that's 100 %. It is somehow only by chance, apps may
give the illusion they are properly working.
jmf
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wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:03bb12d8-93be-4ef6-94ae-4a02789ae...@googlegroups.com...
==
I wrote once 90 % of Python 2 apps (a generic term) supposed to
process text, strings are not working.
In Python 3, that's 100 %. It is somehow only by chance, apps may
give the
Frank Millman fr...@chagford.com writes:
wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote […]
It is quite frustrating when you make these statements without
explaining what you mean by 'not working'.
Please do not engage “wxjmfauth” on this topic; he is an
amply-demonstrated troll with nothing tangible to back up
On Apr 26, 2014 3:46 AM, Frank Millman fr...@chagford.com wrote:
wxjmfa...@gmail.com wrote in message
news:03bb12d8-93be-4ef6-94ae-4a02789ae...@googlegroups.com...
==
I wrote once 90 % of Python 2 apps (a generic term) supposed to
process text, strings are not working.
In
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote:
There's not just the keyboard mapping. There's the mental cost of knowing
which keyboard mapping you need (is it Greek, Hebrew, or maths
symbols?), the cost of remembering the mapping from the keys you see on
the
Devin Jeanpierre jeanpierr...@gmail.com writes:
But yes, typing out the special characters is annoying. I just use
words.
I use words that describe the meaning, where feasible.
The only downside to using words is, how do you specify capital
versus lowercase letters?
Why do you need to, for
On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 11:22:33 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
25 Unicode characters down, 1114000+ to go :-)
The question would arise if there was some suggestion to add
1114000(+) characters to the syntactic/lexical definition of python.
IOW while its true that unicode is a
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Rustom Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
In such a (default) setup typing a ∧ or ∨ is not possible at all without
something like a char-picker and at best has an ergonomic cost that is an
order of magnitude higher than the 'naturally available' characters.
On
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 23:57:46 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
perhaps the following is the most preferred?
COMPUTE YEAR MODULO 4 EQUALS 0 AND YEAR MODULO 100 NOT EQUAL TO ZERO OR
YEAR MODULO 100 EQUAL to 0
IOW COBOL is desirable?
If the only choices are COBOL on one hand and the mutant
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 23:57:46 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
On the other hand when/if a keyboard mapping is defined in which the
characters that are commonly needed are available, it is reasonable to
expect the ∨,∧ to cost no more than 2 strokes each (ie about as much as
an 'A'; slightly more than
On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 1:23:00 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 23:57:46 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
On the other hand when/if a keyboard mapping is defined in which the
characters that are commonly needed are available, it is reasonable to
expect the ∨,∧ to cost
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 20:57:39 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
As a unicode user (ok wannabe unicode user :D ) Ive written up some
unicode ideas that have been discussed here in the last couple of weeks:
http://blog.languager.org/2014/04/unicoded-python.html
What you are talking about is not
On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:14:17 AM UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote:
On 4/21/2014 11:57 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
As a unicode user (ok wannabe unicode user :D ) Ive
written up some unicode ideas that have been discussed here in the
last couple of weeks:
On Apr 22, 2014 12:01 AM, Rustom Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
As a unicode user (ok wannabe unicode user :D ) Ive
written up some unicode ideas that have been discussed here in the
last couple of weeks:
http://blog.languager.org/2014/04/unicoded-python.html
I'm reminded of this satire:
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Rustom Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
Ive reworded it to make it clear that I am referring to the character-sets and
not encodings.
It's still false, and was in Python 2 as well. The only difference on
that front is that, in the absence of an encoding cookie,
On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:41:56 AM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2014 20:57:39 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
As a unicode user (ok wannabe unicode user :D ) Ive written up some
unicode ideas that have been discussed here in the last couple of weeks:
On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Rustom Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
So instead of using λ (0x3bb) we should use 흀 (0x1d740) or something
thereabouts like 휆
You still have a major problem: How do you type that? It gives you
very little advantage over the word lambda, it introduces
Le mardi 22 avril 2014 08:30:45 UTC+2, Rustom Mody a écrit :
@ rusy
Ive reworded it to make it clear that I am referring to the
character-sets and not encodings.
Very good, excellent, comment. An healthy coding scheme can only
work properly with a unique characters set and the coding is
On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:01:06 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
On Apr 22, 2014 12:01 AM, Rustom Mody rusto...@gmail.com wrote:
As a unicode user (ok wannabe unicode user :D ) Ive
written up some unicode ideas that have been discussed here in the
last couple of weeks:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 02:07:58 -0700, wxjmfauth wrote:
Le mardi 22 avril 2014 08:30:45 UTC+2, Rustom Mody a écrit :
@ rusy
Ive reworded it to make it clear that I am referring to the
character-sets and not encodings.
Very good, excellent, comment. An healthy coding scheme can only
Le mardi 22 avril 2014 14:21:40 UTC+2, Steven D'Aprano a écrit :
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 02:07:58 -0700, wxjmfauth wrote:
Le mardi 22 avril 2014 08:30:45 UTC+2, Rustom Mody a écrit :
@ rusy
Ive reworded it to make it clear that I am referring to the
On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:01:06 PM UTC+5:30, Ian wrote:
On Apr 22, 2014 12:01 AM, Rustom Mody rusto...@gmail.com wrote:
As a unicode user (ok wannabe unicode user :D ) Ive
written up some unicode ideas that have been discussed here in the
last couple of weeks:
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Rustom Mody rustompm...@gmail.com wrote:
Chris Angelico wrote:
it's impossible for most people to type (and programming with a palette
of arbitrary syntactic tokens isn't my idea of fun)...
Where's the suggestion to use a palette of arbitrary tokens ?
I just
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:31:41 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote:
Chris Angelico wrote:
it's impossible for most people to type (and programming with a palette
of arbitrary syntactic tokens isn't my idea of fun)...
Where's the suggestion to use a palette of arbitrary tokens ?
I just tried a greek
On 4/21/2014 11:57 PM, Rustom Mody wrote:
As a unicode user (ok wannabe unicode user :D ) Ive
written up some unicode ideas that have been discussed here in the
last couple of weeks:
http://blog.languager.org/2014/04/unicoded-python.html
With python 3 we are at a stage where python programs
Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote:
I am currently writing a python interface to a C++ library. Some of the
functions in this library take unicode strings (UTF-8, mostly) as
arguments.
However, when getting these data I run into problem on python 2.2
(RHEL3) - while the data is all nice UCS4 in
Python comes in two flavors. In one, sys.maxunicode is 65535 and Py_UNICODE is
a 16-bit type, and in the other, sys.maxunicode is 1114111 and Py_UNICODE is a
32-bit type. This is selected at compile time, and RedHat has chosen in some
versions to compile for sys.maxunicode == 1114111.
By using
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