Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[domlysz]

Hi,

Thank you very mutch for this work.

It would be usefull to add an explicit entry for opening non spatial tabular
data like ods, xls or dbf. It's really un-intuitive to add this kind of
datasource by vector dialog and the user needs to control how the first line
will be interpreted (column header or not). Actually there is no way to
control this and adding a spreadsheet give unpredictable column headers.



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Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Alessandro Pasotti]

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Stéphane Henriod 
wrote:

> Hi Alessandro
>
> replies inline
>
> Le lundi 5 juin 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a écrit :
>
>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Stéphane Henriod 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alessandro
>>>
>>> First of all, thank you so much for this work, it looks really great
>>> already!
>>>
>>> Here a few comments / ideas after a few quick tests, I let you filter
>>> which ones could actually be part of this phase and which ones should be
>>> left out for a future phase 2
>>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> thanks for testing!
>>
>
> That's the least I can do when someone has already done the hard part,
> i.e. developing :-)
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> - "Raster" is not consistent: it is confusing that the file selector
>>> opens directly. The behavior should mimick the "vector" (open the file
>>> selector only when the user clicks on "browse")
>>>
>>
>> yeah, I know,  this has been already discussed in the PR comments, please
>> have a look.
>>
>
> Yes, I've seen that. But I was not sure  if a consensus has been reached.
> Will it stay like this for now or is it still open for discussion? I would
> favor the "extra-click" that would make it more consistent with the other
> providers
>
>
>
Nothing is carved in stones and I don't know if a consensus has been
reached (I even don't know how to judge whether consensus has been
reached), but I feel the other way: I prefer efficiency to consistency in
this particular case. But maybe the strongest reason to not spend much time
on it is that it's a temporary solution: adding a raster (or a vector file)
from the filesystem is really something that can be done right now from the
browser, but this is all in the PR discussion.



>
>>
>>>
>>> - The "DB2" logo should be cleaned (at least add transparency)
>>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry, I've no graphics design skills, and this task is really something
>> that a not-programmer can contribute to. Changing the icons was not in
>> scope btw.
>>
>
>
> I don't have such skills either but I'd be happy to try and at least make
> the background transparent. I however don't know where to find the original
> icon and how to push it back, once I have (maybe) successfully improved it.
> (This had also been raised by Nyall)
>
>
>
You can find icons here: https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/
tree/master/images/themes/default



>
>>
>>>
>>> - When I click on "Browse", the file selector window opens behind the
>>> Data Source Manager
>>>
>>
>> Not sure I understand what you mean here, probably need more details, and
>> it seems like a bug.
>>
>
> Here what I mean: https://vimeo.com/220330186
>
> But it is not super consistent and doesn't necessarily happen everytime
>
> I opened an issue here: https://issues.qgis.org/issues/1
>


Thanks, I'll definitely have a look, you are using the dialog in modeless
mode, aren't you?


>
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> - I would change the order of the providers: move the "Delimited text"
>>> just below raster (so that we have all file-based providers together). And
>>> maybe separate (visually) the providers in sections: "Files", "Databases",
>>> "Web services", "Virtual" (or something like this). Also,"ArcGIS Feature
>>> Server" should probably be just after "ArcGIS Map Server"
>>>
>>
>>
>> If I'm not mistaken, the order is  the same order we had before for the
>> menu items and the icons, I did not alter the order (at least that was not
>> my intention).
>>
>
> I indeed think that you kept the original order. But would it be out of
> the scope of this first phase to clean up and make this order more
> intuitive? It seems to me like a good opportunity but maybe I am
> underestimating the associated workload?
>
>
No, it's not a big workload, but changing the order wasn't in my plans.
Feel free to make a proposal and a PR and let's see what other people
thinks (I've not a strong opinion on this topic).

As soon as I find some time to work on this again I will focus on a small
refactoring to move the classes from app to gui (that has no impact at all
on UI/UX).

Cheers.

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Stéphane Henriod]

Hi Alessandro

replies inline

Le lundi 5 juin 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a écrit :

> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Stéphane Henriod  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Alessandro
>>
>> First of all, thank you so much for this work, it looks really great
>> already!
>>
>> Here a few comments / ideas after a few quick tests, I let you filter
>> which ones could actually be part of this phase and which ones should be
>> left out for a future phase 2
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> thanks for testing!
>

That's the least I can do when someone has already done the hard part, i.e.
developing :-)



>
>
>
>>
>> - "Raster" is not consistent: it is confusing that the file selector
>> opens directly. The behavior should mimick the "vector" (open the file
>> selector only when the user clicks on "browse")
>>
>
> yeah, I know,  this has been already discussed in the PR comments, please
> have a look.
>

Yes, I've seen that. But I was not sure  if a consensus has been reached.
Will it stay like this for now or is it still open for discussion? I would
favor the "extra-click" that would make it more consistent with the other
providers



>
>>
>> - The "DB2" logo should be cleaned (at least add transparency)
>>
>
>
> Sorry, I've no graphics design skills, and this task is really something
> that a not-programmer can contribute to. Changing the icons was not in
> scope btw.
>


I don't have such skills either but I'd be happy to try and at least make
the background transparent. I however don't know where to find the original
icon and how to push it back, once I have (maybe) successfully improved it.
(This had also been raised by Nyall)



>
>>
>> - When I click on "Browse", the file selector window opens behind the
>> Data Source Manager
>>
>
> Not sure I understand what you mean here, probably need more details, and
> it seems like a bug.
>

Here what I mean: https://vimeo.com/220330186

But it is not super consistent and doesn't necessarily happen everytime

I opened an issue here: https://issues.qgis.org/issues/1



>
>
>>
>> - I would change the order of the providers: move the "Delimited text"
>> just below raster (so that we have all file-based providers together). And
>> maybe separate (visually) the providers in sections: "Files", "Databases",
>> "Web services", "Virtual" (or something like this). Also,"ArcGIS Feature
>> Server" should probably be just after "ArcGIS Map Server"
>>
>
>
> If I'm not mistaken, the order is  the same order we had before for the
> menu items and the icons, I did not alter the order (at least that was not
> my intention).
>

I indeed think that you kept the original order. But would it be out of the
scope of this first phase to clean up and make this order more intuitive?
It seems to me like a good opportunity but maybe I am underestimating the
associated workload?



>
>
>> - It would be super useful to be able to display a basemap (OSM, Google,
>> etc) directly from the Data Source Manager, without having to configure
>> "XYZ Tiles" in the browser.Would it be possible in this phase to add 1
>> entry in the Data source manager "Webmaps" where the user could simply pick
>> in a drop-down one of the most common webmaps (and could add additional XYZ
>> tiles)? This would be a golden feature for non-power users.
>>
>
>
> This is totally unrelated, but AFAIK there are plans to add some default
> xyz maps to the mix for 3.0.
>

Ok, thanks for the info!


>
>
>
>>
>> Thanks again, I will try to test it a bit deeper in the coming days
>>
>> Cheers
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
> Thanks again for the feed-back!
>
> Cheers.
>

You're very welcome!
Cheers

Stéphane


>
>
>
>>
>> Le lundi 5 juin 2017, Alessandro Pasotti > > a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Stéphane,
>>>
>>> Thanks for testing the new dialog!
>>>
>>> I think that if you find a bug (a crash or something that doesn't work
>>> as expected) you should open an issue on the hub and assign it to me.
>>>
>>> For general feed-back or change proposal for the UI/UX you can either
>>> use this thread or make a PR with the proposed changes and discuss them in
>>> the the PR.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Stéphane Henriod 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Alessandro

 I just downloaded the latest nightly build and will make some tests in
 the coming days. What would be the most efficient / useful way to give you
 feedback and comments? On this thread?

 Thanks and cheers

 Stéphane


 Le jeudi 1 juin 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a écrit :

> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Stéphane Henriod <
> stephane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I really look forward to testing it :-) Thanks a lot for our
>> involvement here!
>>
>>
>
> Thanks to Boundless for funding the development and thanks to all of

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Alexandre Neto]

Ismail Sunni  escreveu no dia segunda, 5/06/2017 às
09:28:

> Ah yes, sorry. I was thinking that button will do the same thing like in
> the toolbar (I also didn't read the tooltip).
>
>
Probably a sign that a distinct Icon is needed.


> Thanks!
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Alessandro Pasotti 
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Ismail Sunni 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Allesandro,
>>>
>>> I just tried the new add layer button. It looks great! One thing that I
>>> found, when I click the add layer button in the browser panel, there is
>>> nothing happening.
>>>
>>> I made a gif to show it : http://imgur.com/EPGFuEz
>>>
>>
>>
>> Works for me. Make sure you selected a layer before pushing that button.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I build QGIS master on MacOS, for 27850fb00e
>>>
>>> Best regards.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Alessandro Pasotti 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Stéphane,

 Thanks for testing the new dialog!

 I think that if you find a bug (a crash or something that doesn't work
 as expected) you should open an issue on the hub and assign it to me.

 For general feed-back or change proposal for the UI/UX you can either
 use this thread or make a PR with the proposed changes and discuss them in
 the the PR.

 Cheers


 On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Stéphane Henriod  wrote:

> Hi Alessandro
>
> I just downloaded the latest nightly build and will make some tests in
> the coming days. What would be the most efficient / useful way to give you
> feedback and comments? On this thread?
>
> Thanks and cheers
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> Le jeudi 1 juin 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a
> écrit :
>
>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Stéphane Henriod <
>> stephane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I really look forward to testing it :-) Thanks a lot for our
>>> involvement here!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks to Boundless for funding the development and thanks to all of
>> you who participated with design, mockups, ideas, comments and reviews!
>>
>> This was a nice and effective cooperation.
>>
>>
>> BTW, if you can't wait, a Docker with a nigthly build of the PR
>> branch is available as
>> "boundlessgeo/qgis-testing-environment:unified-button"
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Le mercredi 31 mai 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a
>>> écrit :
>>>
 Hi,

 final update: the development of what was in phase 1 is done.

 Actually, a bit more than phase 1 considering that we've redesigned
 the delimited text dialog GUI and I've done quite a bit of small
 refactorings of the providers selection dialogs interfaces.

 There has been a lot of feed-back, thank you all!

 As expected, there is no complete agreement over the final GUI bits
 for the menus and toolbars, and we still miss an icon (the green plus 
 that
 I've used was only meant as a placeholder). I tried to keep the old 
 toolbar
 available (disabled by default) mainly because it can spare a click and
 power users might want it back. Also, the new icon is the most 
 prominent in
 the left bar and it's the first menu item in the layers menu.

 I have not a strong opinion about those toolbars and menus but I
 think I should wait no more and merge it as it is, then give the people
 some time to test the actual implementation and decide how to improve 
 it.

 I kept the controversial part in a single commit so that it will be
 very easy to revert and propose a different placement for menus, icons 
 and
 toolbars.


 Any objections if I proceed?



 On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Alessandro Pasotti <
 apaso...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> a quick update:
>
> I've prepared a PR with a working prototype in
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/4629, I need some feed-back and
> some help, expecially UX/UI about if we want it as a dockable dialog 
> too
> (and how to make it user-configurable).
>
> Feed-back welcome (but please keep it limited in scope to phase 1).
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Richard Duivenvoorde <
> rdmaili...@duif.net> wrote:
>
>> On 19-05-17 01:23, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>>
>> > On this note - I've recently discovered the need for some type
>> of
>> > reusable layer selection widget which allows choice of existing

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Alessandro Pasotti]

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Stéphane Henriod 
wrote:

> Hi Alessandro
>
> First of all, thank you so much for this work, it looks really great
> already!
>
> Here a few comments / ideas after a few quick tests, I let you filter
> which ones could actually be part of this phase and which ones should be
> left out for a future phase 2
>

Hi,

thanks for testing!



>
> - "Raster" is not consistent: it is confusing that the file selector opens
> directly. The behavior should mimick the "vector" (open the file selector
> only when the user clicks on "browse")
>

yeah, I know,  this has been already discussed in the PR comments, please
have a look.


>
> - The "DB2" logo should be cleaned (at least add transparency)
>


Sorry, I've no graphics design skills, and this task is really something
that a not-programmer can contribute to. Changing the icons was not in
scope btw.


>
> - When I click on "Browse", the file selector window opens behind the Data
> Source Manager
>

Not sure I understand what you mean here, probably need more details, and
it seems like a bug.


>
> - I would change the order of the providers: move the "Delimited text"
> just below raster (so that we have all file-based providers together). And
> maybe separate (visually) the providers in sections: "Files", "Databases",
> "Web services", "Virtual" (or something like this). Also,"ArcGIS Feature
> Server" should probably be just after "ArcGIS Map Server"
>


If I'm not mistaken, the order is  the same order we had before for the
menu items and the icons, I did not alter the order (at least that was not
my intention).


> - It would be super useful to be able to display a basemap (OSM, Google,
> etc) directly from the Data Source Manager, without having to configure
> "XYZ Tiles" in the browser.Would it be possible in this phase to add 1
> entry in the Data source manager "Webmaps" where the user could simply pick
> in a drop-down one of the most common webmaps (and could add additional XYZ
> tiles)? This would be a golden feature for non-power users.
>


This is totally unrelated, but AFAIK there are plans to add some default
xyz maps to the mix for 3.0.



>
> Thanks again, I will try to test it a bit deeper in the coming days
>
> Cheers
> Stéphane
>
>
Thanks again for the feed-back!

Cheers.



>
> Le lundi 5 juin 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a écrit :
>
>> Hi Stéphane,
>>
>> Thanks for testing the new dialog!
>>
>> I think that if you find a bug (a crash or something that doesn't work as
>> expected) you should open an issue on the hub and assign it to me.
>>
>> For general feed-back or change proposal for the UI/UX you can either use
>> this thread or make a PR with the proposed changes and discuss them in the
>> the PR.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Stéphane Henriod 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alessandro
>>>
>>> I just downloaded the latest nightly build and will make some tests in
>>> the coming days. What would be the most efficient / useful way to give you
>>> feedback and comments? On this thread?
>>>
>>> Thanks and cheers
>>>
>>> Stéphane
>>>
>>>
>>> Le jeudi 1 juin 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a écrit :
>>>
 On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Stéphane Henriod <
 stephane...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I really look forward to testing it :-) Thanks a lot for our
> involvement here!
>
>

 Thanks to Boundless for funding the development and thanks to all of
 you who participated with design, mockups, ideas, comments and reviews!

 This was a nice and effective cooperation.


 BTW, if you can't wait, a Docker with a nigthly build of the PR branch
 is available as "boundlessgeo/qgis-testing-environment:unified-button"

 Cheers


>
> Le mercredi 31 mai 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a
> écrit :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> final update: the development of what was in phase 1 is done.
>>
>> Actually, a bit more than phase 1 considering that we've redesigned
>> the delimited text dialog GUI and I've done quite a bit of small
>> refactorings of the providers selection dialogs interfaces.
>>
>> There has been a lot of feed-back, thank you all!
>>
>> As expected, there is no complete agreement over the final GUI bits
>> for the menus and toolbars, and we still miss an icon (the green plus 
>> that
>> I've used was only meant as a placeholder). I tried to keep the old 
>> toolbar
>> available (disabled by default) mainly because it can spare a click and
>> power users might want it back. Also, the new icon is the most prominent 
>> in
>> the left bar and it's the first menu item in the layers menu.
>>
>> I have not a strong opinion about those toolbars and menus but I
>> think I should wait no more and merge it as it is, then give the people
>> some time to test the 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Stéphane Henriod]

Hi Alessandro

First of all, thank you so much for this work, it looks really great
already!

Here a few comments / ideas after a few quick tests, I let you filter which
ones could actually be part of this phase and which ones should be left out
for a future phase 2

- "Raster" is not consistent: it is confusing that the file selector opens
directly. The behavior should mimick the "vector" (open the file selector
only when the user clicks on "browse")

- The "DB2" logo should be cleaned (at least add transparency)

- When I click on "Browse", the file selector window opens behind the Data
Source Manager

- I would change the order of the providers: move the "Delimited text" just
below raster (so that we have all file-based providers together). And maybe
separate (visually) the providers in sections: "Files", "Databases", "Web
services", "Virtual" (or something like this). Also,"ArcGIS Feature Server"
should probably be just after "ArcGIS Map Server"

- It would be super useful to be able to display a basemap (OSM, Google,
etc) directly from the Data Source Manager, without having to configure
"XYZ Tiles" in the browser.Would it be possible in this phase to add 1
entry in the Data source manager "Webmaps" where the user could simply pick
in a drop-down one of the most common webmaps (and could add additional XYZ
tiles)? This would be a golden feature for non-power users.

Thanks again, I will try to test it a bit deeper in the coming days

Cheers
Stéphane


Le lundi 5 juin 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a écrit :

> Hi Stéphane,
>
> Thanks for testing the new dialog!
>
> I think that if you find a bug (a crash or something that doesn't work as
> expected) you should open an issue on the hub and assign it to me.
>
> For general feed-back or change proposal for the UI/UX you can either use
> this thread or make a PR with the proposed changes and discuss them in the
> the PR.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Stéphane Henriod  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Alessandro
>>
>> I just downloaded the latest nightly build and will make some tests in
>> the coming days. What would be the most efficient / useful way to give you
>> feedback and comments? On this thread?
>>
>> Thanks and cheers
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>> Le jeudi 1 juin 2017, Alessandro Pasotti > > a écrit :
>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Stéphane Henriod >> > wrote:
>>>
 I really look forward to testing it :-) Thanks a lot for our
 involvement here!


>>>
>>> Thanks to Boundless for funding the development and thanks to all of you
>>> who participated with design, mockups, ideas, comments and reviews!
>>>
>>> This was a nice and effective cooperation.
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW, if you can't wait, a Docker with a nigthly build of the PR branch
>>> is available as "boundlessgeo/qgis-testing-environment:unified-button"
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>

 Le mercredi 31 mai 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a
 écrit :

> Hi,
>
> final update: the development of what was in phase 1 is done.
>
> Actually, a bit more than phase 1 considering that we've redesigned
> the delimited text dialog GUI and I've done quite a bit of small
> refactorings of the providers selection dialogs interfaces.
>
> There has been a lot of feed-back, thank you all!
>
> As expected, there is no complete agreement over the final GUI bits
> for the menus and toolbars, and we still miss an icon (the green plus that
> I've used was only meant as a placeholder). I tried to keep the old 
> toolbar
> available (disabled by default) mainly because it can spare a click and
> power users might want it back. Also, the new icon is the most prominent 
> in
> the left bar and it's the first menu item in the layers menu.
>
> I have not a strong opinion about those toolbars and menus but I think
> I should wait no more and merge it as it is, then give the people some 
> time
> to test the actual implementation and decide how to improve it.
>
> I kept the controversial part in a single commit so that it will be
> very easy to revert and propose a different placement for menus, icons and
> toolbars.
>
>
> Any objections if I proceed?
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Alessandro Pasotti <
> apaso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> a quick update:
>>
>> I've prepared a PR with a working prototype in
>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/4629, I need some feed-back and
>> some help, expecially UX/UI about if we want it as a dockable dialog too
>> (and how to make it user-configurable).
>>
>> Feed-back welcome (but please keep it limited in scope to phase 1).
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Ismail Sunni]

Ah yes, sorry. I was thinking that button will do the same thing like in
the toolbar (I also didn't read the tooltip).

Thanks!

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 2:59 PM, Alessandro Pasotti 
wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Ismail Sunni 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Allesandro,
>>
>> I just tried the new add layer button. It looks great! One thing that I
>> found, when I click the add layer button in the browser panel, there is
>> nothing happening.
>>
>> I made a gif to show it : http://imgur.com/EPGFuEz
>>
>
>
> Works for me. Make sure you selected a layer before pushing that button.
>
>
>
>> I build QGIS master on MacOS, for 27850fb00e
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Alessandro Pasotti 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Stéphane,
>>>
>>> Thanks for testing the new dialog!
>>>
>>> I think that if you find a bug (a crash or something that doesn't work
>>> as expected) you should open an issue on the hub and assign it to me.
>>>
>>> For general feed-back or change proposal for the UI/UX you can either
>>> use this thread or make a PR with the proposed changes and discuss them in
>>> the the PR.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Stéphane Henriod 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Alessandro

 I just downloaded the latest nightly build and will make some tests in
 the coming days. What would be the most efficient / useful way to give you
 feedback and comments? On this thread?

 Thanks and cheers

 Stéphane


 Le jeudi 1 juin 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a écrit :

> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Stéphane Henriod <
> stephane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I really look forward to testing it :-) Thanks a lot for our
>> involvement here!
>>
>>
>
> Thanks to Boundless for funding the development and thanks to all of
> you who participated with design, mockups, ideas, comments and reviews!
>
> This was a nice and effective cooperation.
>
>
> BTW, if you can't wait, a Docker with a nigthly build of the PR branch
> is available as "boundlessgeo/qgis-testing-environment:unified-button"
>
> Cheers
>
>
>>
>> Le mercredi 31 mai 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> final update: the development of what was in phase 1 is done.
>>>
>>> Actually, a bit more than phase 1 considering that we've redesigned
>>> the delimited text dialog GUI and I've done quite a bit of small
>>> refactorings of the providers selection dialogs interfaces.
>>>
>>> There has been a lot of feed-back, thank you all!
>>>
>>> As expected, there is no complete agreement over the final GUI bits
>>> for the menus and toolbars, and we still miss an icon (the green plus 
>>> that
>>> I've used was only meant as a placeholder). I tried to keep the old 
>>> toolbar
>>> available (disabled by default) mainly because it can spare a click and
>>> power users might want it back. Also, the new icon is the most 
>>> prominent in
>>> the left bar and it's the first menu item in the layers menu.
>>>
>>> I have not a strong opinion about those toolbars and menus but I
>>> think I should wait no more and merge it as it is, then give the people
>>> some time to test the actual implementation and decide how to improve 
>>> it.
>>>
>>> I kept the controversial part in a single commit so that it will be
>>> very easy to revert and propose a different placement for menus, icons 
>>> and
>>> toolbars.
>>>
>>>
>>> Any objections if I proceed?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Alessandro Pasotti <
>>> apaso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 a quick update:

 I've prepared a PR with a working prototype in
 https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/4629, I need some feed-back and
 some help, expecially UX/UI about if we want it as a dockable dialog 
 too
 (and how to make it user-configurable).

 Feed-back welcome (but please keep it limited in scope to phase 1).

 Cheers



 On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Richard Duivenvoorde <
 rdmaili...@duif.net> wrote:

> On 19-05-17 01:23, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>
> > On this note - I've recently discovered the need for some type of
> > reusable layer selection widget which allows choice of existing
> > layers/loading new layers from the file system/loading new
> layers from
> > available db/online connections. This would be extremely
> valuable for
> > processing too!
> >
> > So I'm really glad to hear that you'll be pushing ahead with
> this 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Alessandro Pasotti]

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 9:50 AM, Ismail Sunni  wrote:

> Hi Allesandro,
>
> I just tried the new add layer button. It looks great! One thing that I
> found, when I click the add layer button in the browser panel, there is
> nothing happening.
>
> I made a gif to show it : http://imgur.com/EPGFuEz
>


Works for me. Make sure you selected a layer before pushing that button.



> I build QGIS master on MacOS, for 27850fb00e
>
> Best regards.
>
> On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Alessandro Pasotti 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Stéphane,
>>
>> Thanks for testing the new dialog!
>>
>> I think that if you find a bug (a crash or something that doesn't work as
>> expected) you should open an issue on the hub and assign it to me.
>>
>> For general feed-back or change proposal for the UI/UX you can either use
>> this thread or make a PR with the proposed changes and discuss them in the
>> the PR.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Stéphane Henriod 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alessandro
>>>
>>> I just downloaded the latest nightly build and will make some tests in
>>> the coming days. What would be the most efficient / useful way to give you
>>> feedback and comments? On this thread?
>>>
>>> Thanks and cheers
>>>
>>> Stéphane
>>>
>>>
>>> Le jeudi 1 juin 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a écrit :
>>>
 On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Stéphane Henriod <
 stephane...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I really look forward to testing it :-) Thanks a lot for our
> involvement here!
>
>

 Thanks to Boundless for funding the development and thanks to all of
 you who participated with design, mockups, ideas, comments and reviews!

 This was a nice and effective cooperation.


 BTW, if you can't wait, a Docker with a nigthly build of the PR branch
 is available as "boundlessgeo/qgis-testing-environment:unified-button"

 Cheers


>
> Le mercredi 31 mai 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a
> écrit :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> final update: the development of what was in phase 1 is done.
>>
>> Actually, a bit more than phase 1 considering that we've redesigned
>> the delimited text dialog GUI and I've done quite a bit of small
>> refactorings of the providers selection dialogs interfaces.
>>
>> There has been a lot of feed-back, thank you all!
>>
>> As expected, there is no complete agreement over the final GUI bits
>> for the menus and toolbars, and we still miss an icon (the green plus 
>> that
>> I've used was only meant as a placeholder). I tried to keep the old 
>> toolbar
>> available (disabled by default) mainly because it can spare a click and
>> power users might want it back. Also, the new icon is the most prominent 
>> in
>> the left bar and it's the first menu item in the layers menu.
>>
>> I have not a strong opinion about those toolbars and menus but I
>> think I should wait no more and merge it as it is, then give the people
>> some time to test the actual implementation and decide how to improve it.
>>
>> I kept the controversial part in a single commit so that it will be
>> very easy to revert and propose a different placement for menus, icons 
>> and
>> toolbars.
>>
>>
>> Any objections if I proceed?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Alessandro Pasotti <
>> apaso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> a quick update:
>>>
>>> I've prepared a PR with a working prototype in
>>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/4629, I need some feed-back and
>>> some help, expecially UX/UI about if we want it as a dockable dialog too
>>> (and how to make it user-configurable).
>>>
>>> Feed-back welcome (but please keep it limited in scope to phase 1).
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Richard Duivenvoorde <
>>> rdmaili...@duif.net> wrote:
>>>
 On 19-05-17 01:23, Nyall Dawson wrote:

 > On this note - I've recently discovered the need for some type of
 > reusable layer selection widget which allows choice of existing
 > layers/loading new layers from the file system/loading new layers
 from
 > available db/online connections. This would be extremely valuable
 for
 > processing too!
 >
 > So I'm really glad to hear that you'll be pushing ahead with this
 work
 > - thanks Boundless!

 Yep, and thanks Alessandro for the screenie. Makes me want more!

 @Nyall in Essen the talk was to start with what Alessandro wrote in
 his
 email, so 1 dialog 'merging' all buttons/widgets/dialogs into one,
 reuse
 as much as possible. So it was possible to get it into 3.0

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Ismail Sunni]

Hi Allesandro,

I just tried the new add layer button. It looks great! One thing that I
found, when I click the add layer button in the browser panel, there is
nothing happening.

I made a gif to show it : http://imgur.com/EPGFuEz

I build QGIS master on MacOS, for 27850fb00e

Best regards.

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Alessandro Pasotti 
wrote:

> Hi Stéphane,
>
> Thanks for testing the new dialog!
>
> I think that if you find a bug (a crash or something that doesn't work as
> expected) you should open an issue on the hub and assign it to me.
>
> For general feed-back or change proposal for the UI/UX you can either use
> this thread or make a PR with the proposed changes and discuss them in the
> the PR.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Stéphane Henriod 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Alessandro
>>
>> I just downloaded the latest nightly build and will make some tests in
>> the coming days. What would be the most efficient / useful way to give you
>> feedback and comments? On this thread?
>>
>> Thanks and cheers
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>> Le jeudi 1 juin 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a écrit :
>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Stéphane Henriod >> > wrote:
>>>
 I really look forward to testing it :-) Thanks a lot for our
 involvement here!


>>>
>>> Thanks to Boundless for funding the development and thanks to all of you
>>> who participated with design, mockups, ideas, comments and reviews!
>>>
>>> This was a nice and effective cooperation.
>>>
>>>
>>> BTW, if you can't wait, a Docker with a nigthly build of the PR branch
>>> is available as "boundlessgeo/qgis-testing-environment:unified-button"
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>

 Le mercredi 31 mai 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a
 écrit :

> Hi,
>
> final update: the development of what was in phase 1 is done.
>
> Actually, a bit more than phase 1 considering that we've redesigned
> the delimited text dialog GUI and I've done quite a bit of small
> refactorings of the providers selection dialogs interfaces.
>
> There has been a lot of feed-back, thank you all!
>
> As expected, there is no complete agreement over the final GUI bits
> for the menus and toolbars, and we still miss an icon (the green plus that
> I've used was only meant as a placeholder). I tried to keep the old 
> toolbar
> available (disabled by default) mainly because it can spare a click and
> power users might want it back. Also, the new icon is the most prominent 
> in
> the left bar and it's the first menu item in the layers menu.
>
> I have not a strong opinion about those toolbars and menus but I think
> I should wait no more and merge it as it is, then give the people some 
> time
> to test the actual implementation and decide how to improve it.
>
> I kept the controversial part in a single commit so that it will be
> very easy to revert and propose a different placement for menus, icons and
> toolbars.
>
>
> Any objections if I proceed?
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Alessandro Pasotti <
> apaso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> a quick update:
>>
>> I've prepared a PR with a working prototype in
>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/4629, I need some feed-back and
>> some help, expecially UX/UI about if we want it as a dockable dialog too
>> (and how to make it user-configurable).
>>
>> Feed-back welcome (but please keep it limited in scope to phase 1).
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Richard Duivenvoorde <
>> rdmaili...@duif.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 19-05-17 01:23, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>>>
>>> > On this note - I've recently discovered the need for some type of
>>> > reusable layer selection widget which allows choice of existing
>>> > layers/loading new layers from the file system/loading new layers
>>> from
>>> > available db/online connections. This would be extremely valuable
>>> for
>>> > processing too!
>>> >
>>> > So I'm really glad to hear that you'll be pushing ahead with this
>>> work
>>> > - thanks Boundless!
>>>
>>> Yep, and thanks Alessandro for the screenie. Makes me want more!
>>>
>>> @Nyall in Essen the talk was to start with what Alessandro wrote in
>>> his
>>> email, so 1 dialog 'merging' all buttons/widgets/dialogs into one,
>>> reuse
>>> as much as possible. So it was possible to get it into 3.0
>>>
>>> Off course people (.../me) started brainstorming about features which
>>> w/could be added too :-)
>>>
>>> Your idea adds (I think) to the idea to make some kind of
>>> 'datamanagement-console' in near future, where you can create/copy
>>> data(!), move data around (browser part) 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Alessandro Pasotti]

Hi Stéphane,

Thanks for testing the new dialog!

I think that if you find a bug (a crash or something that doesn't work as
expected) you should open an issue on the hub and assign it to me.

For general feed-back or change proposal for the UI/UX you can either use
this thread or make a PR with the proposed changes and discuss them in the
the PR.

Cheers


On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Stéphane Henriod 
wrote:

> Hi Alessandro
>
> I just downloaded the latest nightly build and will make some tests in the
> coming days. What would be the most efficient / useful way to give you
> feedback and comments? On this thread?
>
> Thanks and cheers
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> Le jeudi 1 juin 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a écrit :
>
>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Stéphane Henriod 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I really look forward to testing it :-) Thanks a lot for our involvement
>>> here!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks to Boundless for funding the development and thanks to all of you
>> who participated with design, mockups, ideas, comments and reviews!
>>
>> This was a nice and effective cooperation.
>>
>>
>> BTW, if you can't wait, a Docker with a nigthly build of the PR branch is
>> available as "boundlessgeo/qgis-testing-environment:unified-button"
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Le mercredi 31 mai 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a
>>> écrit :
>>>
 Hi,

 final update: the development of what was in phase 1 is done.

 Actually, a bit more than phase 1 considering that we've redesigned the
 delimited text dialog GUI and I've done quite a bit of small refactorings
 of the providers selection dialogs interfaces.

 There has been a lot of feed-back, thank you all!

 As expected, there is no complete agreement over the final GUI bits for
 the menus and toolbars, and we still miss an icon (the green plus that I've
 used was only meant as a placeholder). I tried to keep the old toolbar
 available (disabled by default) mainly because it can spare a click and
 power users might want it back. Also, the new icon is the most prominent in
 the left bar and it's the first menu item in the layers menu.

 I have not a strong opinion about those toolbars and menus but I think
 I should wait no more and merge it as it is, then give the people some time
 to test the actual implementation and decide how to improve it.

 I kept the controversial part in a single commit so that it will be
 very easy to revert and propose a different placement for menus, icons and
 toolbars.


 Any objections if I proceed?



 On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Alessandro Pasotti  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> a quick update:
>
> I've prepared a PR with a working prototype in
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/4629, I need some feed-back and
> some help, expecially UX/UI about if we want it as a dockable dialog too
> (and how to make it user-configurable).
>
> Feed-back welcome (but please keep it limited in scope to phase 1).
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Richard Duivenvoorde <
> rdmaili...@duif.net> wrote:
>
>> On 19-05-17 01:23, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>>
>> > On this note - I've recently discovered the need for some type of
>> > reusable layer selection widget which allows choice of existing
>> > layers/loading new layers from the file system/loading new layers
>> from
>> > available db/online connections. This would be extremely valuable
>> for
>> > processing too!
>> >
>> > So I'm really glad to hear that you'll be pushing ahead with this
>> work
>> > - thanks Boundless!
>>
>> Yep, and thanks Alessandro for the screenie. Makes me want more!
>>
>> @Nyall in Essen the talk was to start with what Alessandro wrote in
>> his
>> email, so 1 dialog 'merging' all buttons/widgets/dialogs into one,
>> reuse
>> as much as possible. So it was possible to get it into 3.0
>>
>> Off course people (.../me) started brainstorming about features which
>> w/could be added too :-)
>>
>> Your idea adds (I think) to the idea to make some kind of
>> 'datamanagement-console' in near future, where you can create/copy
>> data(!), move data around (browser part) or delete it.
>> Your note fits in this isn't it?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> ___
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>
>
>
> --
> Alessandro Pasotti
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>



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 Alessandro Pasotti
 w3: 

Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Stéphane Henriod]

Hi Alessandro

I just downloaded the latest nightly build and will make some tests in the
coming days. What would be the most efficient / useful way to give you
feedback and comments? On this thread?

Thanks and cheers

Stéphane

Le jeudi 1 juin 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a écrit :

> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Stéphane Henriod  > wrote:
>
>> I really look forward to testing it :-) Thanks a lot for our involvement
>> here!
>>
>>
>
> Thanks to Boundless for funding the development and thanks to all of you
> who participated with design, mockups, ideas, comments and reviews!
>
> This was a nice and effective cooperation.
>
>
> BTW, if you can't wait, a Docker with a nigthly build of the PR branch is
> available as "boundlessgeo/qgis-testing-environment:unified-button"
>
> Cheers
>
>
>>
>> Le mercredi 31 mai 2017, Alessandro Pasotti > > a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> final update: the development of what was in phase 1 is done.
>>>
>>> Actually, a bit more than phase 1 considering that we've redesigned the
>>> delimited text dialog GUI and I've done quite a bit of small refactorings
>>> of the providers selection dialogs interfaces.
>>>
>>> There has been a lot of feed-back, thank you all!
>>>
>>> As expected, there is no complete agreement over the final GUI bits for
>>> the menus and toolbars, and we still miss an icon (the green plus that I've
>>> used was only meant as a placeholder). I tried to keep the old toolbar
>>> available (disabled by default) mainly because it can spare a click and
>>> power users might want it back. Also, the new icon is the most prominent in
>>> the left bar and it's the first menu item in the layers menu.
>>>
>>> I have not a strong opinion about those toolbars and menus but I think I
>>> should wait no more and merge it as it is, then give the people some time
>>> to test the actual implementation and decide how to improve it.
>>>
>>> I kept the controversial part in a single commit so that it will be very
>>> easy to revert and propose a different placement for menus, icons and
>>> toolbars.
>>>
>>>
>>> Any objections if I proceed?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Alessandro Pasotti 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 a quick update:

 I've prepared a PR with a working prototype in
 https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/4629, I need some feed-back and some
 help, expecially UX/UI about if we want it as a dockable dialog too (and
 how to make it user-configurable).

 Feed-back welcome (but please keep it limited in scope to phase 1).

 Cheers



 On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Richard Duivenvoorde <
 rdmaili...@duif.net> wrote:

> On 19-05-17 01:23, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>
> > On this note - I've recently discovered the need for some type of
> > reusable layer selection widget which allows choice of existing
> > layers/loading new layers from the file system/loading new layers
> from
> > available db/online connections. This would be extremely valuable for
> > processing too!
> >
> > So I'm really glad to hear that you'll be pushing ahead with this
> work
> > - thanks Boundless!
>
> Yep, and thanks Alessandro for the screenie. Makes me want more!
>
> @Nyall in Essen the talk was to start with what Alessandro wrote in his
> email, so 1 dialog 'merging' all buttons/widgets/dialogs into one,
> reuse
> as much as possible. So it was possible to get it into 3.0
>
> Off course people (.../me) started brainstorming about features which
> w/could be added too :-)
>
> Your idea adds (I think) to the idea to make some kind of
> 'datamanagement-console' in near future, where you can create/copy
> data(!), move data around (browser part) or delete it.
> Your note fits in this isn't it?
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard
>
>
> ___
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> List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
> Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-developer
>



 --
 Alessandro Pasotti
 w3:   www.itopen.it

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alessandro Pasotti
>>> w3:   www.itopen.it
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make
>> you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." --
>> Clifton Fadiman
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Alessandro Pasotti
> w3:   www.itopen.it
>


-- 

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you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." --
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Stéphane Henriod]

Thanks but I will wait for the nightly builds to be available on the Ubuntu
repositories! :-)



Le jeudi 1 juin 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a écrit :

> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Stéphane Henriod  > wrote:
>
>> I really look forward to testing it :-) Thanks a lot for our involvement
>> here!
>>
>>
>
> Thanks to Boundless for funding the development and thanks to all of you
> who participated with design, mockups, ideas, comments and reviews!
>
> This was a nice and effective cooperation.
>
>
> BTW, if you can't wait, a Docker with a nigthly build of the PR branch is
> available as "boundlessgeo/qgis-testing-environment:unified-button"
>
> Cheers
>
>
>>
>> Le mercredi 31 mai 2017, Alessandro Pasotti > > a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> final update: the development of what was in phase 1 is done.
>>>
>>> Actually, a bit more than phase 1 considering that we've redesigned the
>>> delimited text dialog GUI and I've done quite a bit of small refactorings
>>> of the providers selection dialogs interfaces.
>>>
>>> There has been a lot of feed-back, thank you all!
>>>
>>> As expected, there is no complete agreement over the final GUI bits for
>>> the menus and toolbars, and we still miss an icon (the green plus that I've
>>> used was only meant as a placeholder). I tried to keep the old toolbar
>>> available (disabled by default) mainly because it can spare a click and
>>> power users might want it back. Also, the new icon is the most prominent in
>>> the left bar and it's the first menu item in the layers menu.
>>>
>>> I have not a strong opinion about those toolbars and menus but I think I
>>> should wait no more and merge it as it is, then give the people some time
>>> to test the actual implementation and decide how to improve it.
>>>
>>> I kept the controversial part in a single commit so that it will be very
>>> easy to revert and propose a different placement for menus, icons and
>>> toolbars.
>>>
>>>
>>> Any objections if I proceed?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Alessandro Pasotti 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 a quick update:

 I've prepared a PR with a working prototype in
 https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/4629, I need some feed-back and some
 help, expecially UX/UI about if we want it as a dockable dialog too (and
 how to make it user-configurable).

 Feed-back welcome (but please keep it limited in scope to phase 1).

 Cheers



 On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Richard Duivenvoorde <
 rdmaili...@duif.net> wrote:

> On 19-05-17 01:23, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>
> > On this note - I've recently discovered the need for some type of
> > reusable layer selection widget which allows choice of existing
> > layers/loading new layers from the file system/loading new layers
> from
> > available db/online connections. This would be extremely valuable for
> > processing too!
> >
> > So I'm really glad to hear that you'll be pushing ahead with this
> work
> > - thanks Boundless!
>
> Yep, and thanks Alessandro for the screenie. Makes me want more!
>
> @Nyall in Essen the talk was to start with what Alessandro wrote in his
> email, so 1 dialog 'merging' all buttons/widgets/dialogs into one,
> reuse
> as much as possible. So it was possible to get it into 3.0
>
> Off course people (.../me) started brainstorming about features which
> w/could be added too :-)
>
> Your idea adds (I think) to the idea to make some kind of
> 'datamanagement-console' in near future, where you can create/copy
> data(!), move data around (browser part) or delete it.
> Your note fits in this isn't it?
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard
>
>
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 w3:   www.itopen.it

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alessandro Pasotti
>>> w3:   www.itopen.it
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make
>> you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." --
>> Clifton Fadiman
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Alessandro Pasotti
> w3:   www.itopen.it
>


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Alessandro Pasotti]

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Stéphane Henriod 
wrote:

> I really look forward to testing it :-) Thanks a lot for our involvement
> here!
>
>

Thanks to Boundless for funding the development and thanks to all of you
who participated with design, mockups, ideas, comments and reviews!

This was a nice and effective cooperation.


BTW, if you can't wait, a Docker with a nigthly build of the PR branch is
available as "boundlessgeo/qgis-testing-environment:unified-button"

Cheers


>
> Le mercredi 31 mai 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a écrit :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> final update: the development of what was in phase 1 is done.
>>
>> Actually, a bit more than phase 1 considering that we've redesigned the
>> delimited text dialog GUI and I've done quite a bit of small refactorings
>> of the providers selection dialogs interfaces.
>>
>> There has been a lot of feed-back, thank you all!
>>
>> As expected, there is no complete agreement over the final GUI bits for
>> the menus and toolbars, and we still miss an icon (the green plus that I've
>> used was only meant as a placeholder). I tried to keep the old toolbar
>> available (disabled by default) mainly because it can spare a click and
>> power users might want it back. Also, the new icon is the most prominent in
>> the left bar and it's the first menu item in the layers menu.
>>
>> I have not a strong opinion about those toolbars and menus but I think I
>> should wait no more and merge it as it is, then give the people some time
>> to test the actual implementation and decide how to improve it.
>>
>> I kept the controversial part in a single commit so that it will be very
>> easy to revert and propose a different placement for menus, icons and
>> toolbars.
>>
>>
>> Any objections if I proceed?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Alessandro Pasotti 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> a quick update:
>>>
>>> I've prepared a PR with a working prototype in
>>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/4629, I need some feed-back and some
>>> help, expecially UX/UI about if we want it as a dockable dialog too (and
>>> how to make it user-configurable).
>>>
>>> Feed-back welcome (but please keep it limited in scope to phase 1).
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Richard Duivenvoorde <
>>> rdmaili...@duif.net> wrote:
>>>
 On 19-05-17 01:23, Nyall Dawson wrote:

 > On this note - I've recently discovered the need for some type of
 > reusable layer selection widget which allows choice of existing
 > layers/loading new layers from the file system/loading new layers from
 > available db/online connections. This would be extremely valuable for
 > processing too!
 >
 > So I'm really glad to hear that you'll be pushing ahead with this work
 > - thanks Boundless!

 Yep, and thanks Alessandro for the screenie. Makes me want more!

 @Nyall in Essen the talk was to start with what Alessandro wrote in his
 email, so 1 dialog 'merging' all buttons/widgets/dialogs into one, reuse
 as much as possible. So it was possible to get it into 3.0

 Off course people (.../me) started brainstorming about features which
 w/could be added too :-)

 Your idea adds (I think) to the idea to make some kind of
 'datamanagement-console' in near future, where you can create/copy
 data(!), move data around (browser part) or delete it.
 Your note fits in this isn't it?

 Regards,

 Richard


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Stéphane Henriod]

I really look forward to testing it :-) Thanks a lot for our involvement
here!


Le mercredi 31 mai 2017, Alessandro Pasotti  a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> final update: the development of what was in phase 1 is done.
>
> Actually, a bit more than phase 1 considering that we've redesigned the
> delimited text dialog GUI and I've done quite a bit of small refactorings
> of the providers selection dialogs interfaces.
>
> There has been a lot of feed-back, thank you all!
>
> As expected, there is no complete agreement over the final GUI bits for
> the menus and toolbars, and we still miss an icon (the green plus that I've
> used was only meant as a placeholder). I tried to keep the old toolbar
> available (disabled by default) mainly because it can spare a click and
> power users might want it back. Also, the new icon is the most prominent in
> the left bar and it's the first menu item in the layers menu.
>
> I have not a strong opinion about those toolbars and menus but I think I
> should wait no more and merge it as it is, then give the people some time
> to test the actual implementation and decide how to improve it.
>
> I kept the controversial part in a single commit so that it will be very
> easy to revert and propose a different placement for menus, icons and
> toolbars.
>
>
> Any objections if I proceed?
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Alessandro Pasotti  > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> a quick update:
>>
>> I've prepared a PR with a working prototype in
>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/4629, I need some feed-back and some
>> help, expecially UX/UI about if we want it as a dockable dialog too (and
>> how to make it user-configurable).
>>
>> Feed-back welcome (but please keep it limited in scope to phase 1).
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Richard Duivenvoorde <
>> rdmaili...@duif.net 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 19-05-17 01:23, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>>>
>>> > On this note - I've recently discovered the need for some type of
>>> > reusable layer selection widget which allows choice of existing
>>> > layers/loading new layers from the file system/loading new layers from
>>> > available db/online connections. This would be extremely valuable for
>>> > processing too!
>>> >
>>> > So I'm really glad to hear that you'll be pushing ahead with this work
>>> > - thanks Boundless!
>>>
>>> Yep, and thanks Alessandro for the screenie. Makes me want more!
>>>
>>> @Nyall in Essen the talk was to start with what Alessandro wrote in his
>>> email, so 1 dialog 'merging' all buttons/widgets/dialogs into one, reuse
>>> as much as possible. So it was possible to get it into 3.0
>>>
>>> Off course people (.../me) started brainstorming about features which
>>> w/could be added too :-)
>>>
>>> Your idea adds (I think) to the idea to make some kind of
>>> 'datamanagement-console' in near future, where you can create/copy
>>> data(!), move data around (browser part) or delete it.
>>> Your note fits in this isn't it?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Alessandro Pasotti]

Hi,

final update: the development of what was in phase 1 is done.

Actually, a bit more than phase 1 considering that we've redesigned the
delimited text dialog GUI and I've done quite a bit of small refactorings
of the providers selection dialogs interfaces.

There has been a lot of feed-back, thank you all!

As expected, there is no complete agreement over the final GUI bits for the
menus and toolbars, and we still miss an icon (the green plus that I've
used was only meant as a placeholder). I tried to keep the old toolbar
available (disabled by default) mainly because it can spare a click and
power users might want it back. Also, the new icon is the most prominent in
the left bar and it's the first menu item in the layers menu.

I have not a strong opinion about those toolbars and menus but I think I
should wait no more and merge it as it is, then give the people some time
to test the actual implementation and decide how to improve it.

I kept the controversial part in a single commit so that it will be very
easy to revert and propose a different placement for menus, icons and
toolbars.


Any objections if I proceed?



On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Alessandro Pasotti 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> a quick update:
>
> I've prepared a PR with a working prototype in
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/4629, I need some feed-back and some
> help, expecially UX/UI about if we want it as a dockable dialog too (and
> how to make it user-configurable).
>
> Feed-back welcome (but please keep it limited in scope to phase 1).
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Richard Duivenvoorde  > wrote:
>
>> On 19-05-17 01:23, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>>
>> > On this note - I've recently discovered the need for some type of
>> > reusable layer selection widget which allows choice of existing
>> > layers/loading new layers from the file system/loading new layers from
>> > available db/online connections. This would be extremely valuable for
>> > processing too!
>> >
>> > So I'm really glad to hear that you'll be pushing ahead with this work
>> > - thanks Boundless!
>>
>> Yep, and thanks Alessandro for the screenie. Makes me want more!
>>
>> @Nyall in Essen the talk was to start with what Alessandro wrote in his
>> email, so 1 dialog 'merging' all buttons/widgets/dialogs into one, reuse
>> as much as possible. So it was possible to get it into 3.0
>>
>> Off course people (.../me) started brainstorming about features which
>> w/could be added too :-)
>>
>> Your idea adds (I think) to the idea to make some kind of
>> 'datamanagement-console' in near future, where you can create/copy
>> data(!), move data around (browser part) or delete it.
>> Your note fits in this isn't it?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard
>>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Alessandro Pasotti]

Hi,

a quick update:

I've prepared a PR with a working prototype in
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/4629, I need some feed-back and some
help, expecially UX/UI about if we want it as a dockable dialog too (and
how to make it user-configurable).

Feed-back welcome (but please keep it limited in scope to phase 1).

Cheers



On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Richard Duivenvoorde 
wrote:

> On 19-05-17 01:23, Nyall Dawson wrote:
>
> > On this note - I've recently discovered the need for some type of
> > reusable layer selection widget which allows choice of existing
> > layers/loading new layers from the file system/loading new layers from
> > available db/online connections. This would be extremely valuable for
> > processing too!
> >
> > So I'm really glad to hear that you'll be pushing ahead with this work
> > - thanks Boundless!
>
> Yep, and thanks Alessandro for the screenie. Makes me want more!
>
> @Nyall in Essen the talk was to start with what Alessandro wrote in his
> email, so 1 dialog 'merging' all buttons/widgets/dialogs into one, reuse
> as much as possible. So it was possible to get it into 3.0
>
> Off course people (.../me) started brainstorming about features which
> w/could be added too :-)
>
> Your idea adds (I think) to the idea to make some kind of
> 'datamanagement-console' in near future, where you can create/copy
> data(!), move data around (browser part) or delete it.
> Your note fits in this isn't it?
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard
>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Richard Duivenvoorde]

On 19-05-17 01:23, Nyall Dawson wrote:

> On this note - I've recently discovered the need for some type of
> reusable layer selection widget which allows choice of existing
> layers/loading new layers from the file system/loading new layers from
> available db/online connections. This would be extremely valuable for
> processing too!
> 
> So I'm really glad to hear that you'll be pushing ahead with this work
> - thanks Boundless!

Yep, and thanks Alessandro for the screenie. Makes me want more!

@Nyall in Essen the talk was to start with what Alessandro wrote in his
email, so 1 dialog 'merging' all buttons/widgets/dialogs into one, reuse
as much as possible. So it was possible to get it into 3.0

Off course people (.../me) started brainstorming about features which
w/could be added too :-)

Your idea adds (I think) to the idea to make some kind of
'datamanagement-console' in near future, where you can create/copy
data(!), move data around (browser part) or delete it.
Your note fits in this isn't it?

Regards,

Richard


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Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Alessandro Pasotti]

Hi,

just a quick update on this topic: we've started yesterday the work on this
task, here is the plan:
- morph the various providers *selectWidget( QWidget *parent,
Qt::WindowFlags fl ) to return a widget and not a dialog (as per original
specs)
- create a generic dialog wrapper to maintain the existing dialogs
available from the main menu (and as keyboard shortcuts)
- create the unified layer dialog (dockable!)
- insert the widgets into a stacked widget in the unified dialog
- preliminary tests
- final polishing (styles, docking behavior, usability enhancements)
- tests

I'll try to make a prototype PR as soon as I have at least one provider
available so that everybody can track the progresses.

Suggestions welcome!

A very early preliminary test: http://www.itopen.it/bulk/unibutton.png


On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 1:23 AM, Nyall Dawson 
wrote:

> On 11 May 2017 at 07:43, Tim Sutton  wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Alexandre Neto 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> Following what was discussed in Essen hackfest about the unified Add
> Layer tool (described in the end of this document), I'm happy to inform
> that Boundless decided to allocate resources to implement the Step 1.
> >>
> >> "Step 1: Add a tabbed view to the existing browser (vertical column in
> the following mockup). The default view is the basic browser. The remaining
> tabs open the existing dialog UIs embedded inside the browser window."
> >>
> >> As decided, we will have a PR in time for 3.0.
> >
> >
>
> On this note - I've recently discovered the need for some type of
> reusable layer selection widget which allows choice of existing
> layers/loading new layers from the file system/loading new layers from
> available db/online connections. This would be extremely valuable for
> processing too!
>
> So I'm really glad to hear that you'll be pushing ahead with this work
> - thanks Boundless!
>
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Nyall Dawson]

On 11 May 2017 at 07:43, Tim Sutton  wrote:
>
> Hi
>
>
> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Alexandre Neto  wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Following what was discussed in Essen hackfest about the unified Add Layer 
>> tool (described in the end of this document), I'm happy to inform that 
>> Boundless decided to allocate resources to implement the Step 1.
>>
>> "Step 1: Add a tabbed view to the existing browser (vertical column in the 
>> following mockup). The default view is the basic browser. The remaining tabs 
>> open the existing dialog UIs embedded inside the browser window."
>>
>> As decided, we will have a PR in time for 3.0.
>
>

On this note - I've recently discovered the need for some type of
reusable layer selection widget which allows choice of existing
layers/loading new layers from the file system/loading new layers from
available db/online connections. This would be extremely valuable for
processing too!

So I'm really glad to hear that you'll be pushing ahead with this work
- thanks Boundless!

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Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Tim Sutton]

Hi


On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Alexandre Neto 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Following what was discussed in Essen hackfest about the unified Add Layer
> tool (described in the end of this document
> ),
> I'm happy to inform that Boundless decided to allocate resources to
> implement the Step 1.
>
> "Step 1: Add a tabbed view to the existing browser (vertical column in the
> following mockup). The default view is the basic browser. The remaining
> tabs open the existing dialog UIs embedded inside the browser window."
>
> As decided, we will have a PR in time for 3.0.
>

​This is really great news - thanks so much Alexandre and Boundless!

Regards

Tim​



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Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-psc] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Anita Graser]

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Alexandre Neto 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Following what was discussed in Essen hackfest about the unified Add Layer
> tool (described in the end of this document
> ),
> I'm happy to inform that Boundless decided to allocate resources to
> implement the Step 1.
>
> "Step 1: Add a tabbed view to the existing browser (vertical column in the
> following mockup). The default view is the basic browser. The remaining
> tabs open the existing dialog UIs embedded inside the browser window."
>
> As decided, we will have a PR in time for 3.0.
>

​That is great news! Thank you for the update Alexandre!

If you have any updates to share in the meantime, I'm sure the community
would appreciate to hear how this work advances.

Best wishes,
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Re: [QGIS-Developer] [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Alexandre Neto]

Hello all,

Following what was discussed in Essen hackfest about the unified Add Layer
tool (described in the end of this document
),
I'm happy to inform that Boundless decided to allocate resources to
implement the Step 1.

"Step 1: Add a tabbed view to the existing browser (vertical column in the
following mockup). The default view is the basic browser. The remaining
tabs open the existing dialog UIs embedded inside the browser window."

As decided, we will have a PR in time for 3.0.

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Alexandre Neto]

I see your point, but I was not asking it for be the default behavior.

That might not work for all users, specially those with small screen, but
for others with big high resolution screens, may look strange to have a
bunch of tools stacked and tabbed, with still so much space in the screen
to use.

Also, keeping the exact number of space used, people could move style dock
right next to the layers panel.

Anyway, no big deal, just me wondering about it.

Régis Haubourg  escreveu no dia terça, 2/05/2017
às 16:21:

> Hi, we already can put the dock panels as tabs in the same dock as the
> layer tree, this is convenient to me in general for the browser.
> Agreed with Andréa, we can't afford to use more space for the docks.. even
> for medium size screens.
> Régis
>
> 2017-05-02 16:46 GMT+02:00 Neumann, Andreas :
>
>> Hi Alexandre,
>>
>> hm - I don't think we can allow more docking space for additional panels
>> taking more away from the
>>
>> Assuming you work on a small Netbook screen: if you have the layer panel
>> on the left and the styling panel on the right, you have a few pixels left
>> for the map itself. If you add another column for the browser panel, you
>> won't even have enough space for all the panels.
>>
>> Now you could say, one shouldn't use a Netbook for QGIS - but how many
>> times did you have to present on a video projector that only supports
>> 1024x768, or even worse 800x600. It would be nightmare if there is an
>> additional panel.
>>
>> Andreas
>>
>> On 2017-05-02 16:10, Alexandre Neto wrote:
>>
>> Looking into the proposal, makes me wonder if it would be possible to add
>> the Browser panel (that will need to be big enough for the dialogs) to the
>> right of the Layers Panel (assuming the default). That would imply a new
>> area to allow docking panels.
>>
>> Alexandre Neto  escreveu no dia segunda,
>> 1/05/2017 às 00:02:
>>
>>> Great, thanks for the update!
>>>
>>> Anita Graser  escreveu no dia domingo, 30/04/2017
>>> às 21:19:
>>>
 Hi,

 We just finished our discussion on the unified add layer dialog and we
 are optimistic that it will make its way into 3.0. You can find a short
 summary of the planned steps at the end of the doc:


 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing

 Please feel free to ask if there are any questions.

 Best wishes,
 Anita




 On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Stéphane Henriod <
 stephane...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Very good!
>
> Looking forward to hearing the outcome of these discussions!
>
> Cheers and thanks for your support here
>
> Stéphane
>
>
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> make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable."
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> 2017-04-27 22:54 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Some of my colleagues will be in Essen for QGIS Developers meeting.
>> They will bring this up, and try to get the opinion of other developers.
>> I'm sure everyone there will be interested in contributing with ideas for
>> it.
>>
>> So, let's wait for now.
>>
>> Thanks for your work.
>>
>> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia quinta,
>> 27/04/2017 às 09:42:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I would be more than happy to help push this new feature forward but
>>> I am not really sure what is needed now?
>>>
>>> Alexandre, I think you mentioned that your company might be
>>> interested to implement this unique "Add layer" button. Does the Gdoc 
>>> now
>>> contain sufficient information for you to move on and identify what can
>>> realistically be done? Or is there a need for more polishing?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> Stéphane
>>>
>>>
>>> Le vendredi 21 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod 
>>> a écrit :
>>>
 Done!


 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing


 "When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed
 to make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people
 comfortable." -- Clifton Fadiman

 2017-04-20 14:47 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto :

> Fine with me.
>
> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça,
> 18/04/2017 às 05:46:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Harrissou has quite intensively re-organised the doc, which is
>> now, IMO, much clearer. Thanks for that!
>>
>> But lots of changes are in "suggestion mode". I'd like to accept

Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Régis Haubourg]

Hi, we already can put the dock panels as tabs in the same dock as the
layer tree, this is convenient to me in general for the browser.
Agreed with Andréa, we can't afford to use more space for the docks.. even
for medium size screens.
Régis

2017-05-02 16:46 GMT+02:00 Neumann, Andreas :

> Hi Alexandre,
>
> hm - I don't think we can allow more docking space for additional panels
> taking more away from the
>
> Assuming you work on a small Netbook screen: if you have the layer panel
> on the left and the styling panel on the right, you have a few pixels left
> for the map itself. If you add another column for the browser panel, you
> won't even have enough space for all the panels.
>
> Now you could say, one shouldn't use a Netbook for QGIS - but how many
> times did you have to present on a video projector that only supports
> 1024x768, or even worse 800x600. It would be nightmare if there is an
> additional panel.
>
> Andreas
>
> On 2017-05-02 16:10, Alexandre Neto wrote:
>
> Looking into the proposal, makes me wonder if it would be possible to add
> the Browser panel (that will need to be big enough for the dialogs) to the
> right of the Layers Panel (assuming the default). That would imply a new
> area to allow docking panels.
>
> Alexandre Neto  escreveu no dia segunda, 1/05/2017
> às 00:02:
>
>> Great, thanks for the update!
>>
>> Anita Graser  escreveu no dia domingo, 30/04/2017 às
>> 21:19:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We just finished our discussion on the unified add layer dialog and we
>>> are optimistic that it will make its way into 3.0. You can find a short
>>> summary of the planned steps at the end of the doc:
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7U
>>> J1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> Please feel free to ask if there are any questions.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Anita
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Stéphane Henriod >> > wrote:
>>>
 Very good!

 Looking forward to hearing the outcome of these discussions!

 Cheers and thanks for your support here

 Stéphane


 "When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to
 make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable."
 -- Clifton Fadiman
 2017-04-27 22:54 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto :

> Hi,
>
> Some of my colleagues will be in Essen for QGIS Developers meeting.
> They will bring this up, and try to get the opinion of other developers.
> I'm sure everyone there will be interested in contributing with ideas for
> it.
>
> So, let's wait for now.
>
> Thanks for your work.
>
> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia quinta,
> 27/04/2017 às 09:42:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I would be more than happy to help push this new feature forward but
>> I am not really sure what is needed now?
>>
>> Alexandre, I think you mentioned that your company might be
>> interested to implement this unique "Add layer" button. Does the Gdoc now
>> contain sufficient information for you to move on and identify what can
>> realistically be done? Or is there a need for more polishing?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>> Le vendredi 21 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod 
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Done!
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7U
>>> J1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>
>>> "When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to
>>> make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people 
>>> comfortable."
>>> -- Clifton Fadiman
>>>
>>> 2017-04-20 14:47 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto :
>>>
 Fine with me.

 Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça,
 18/04/2017 às 05:46:

> Hi all
>
> Harrissou has quite intensively re-organised the doc, which is
> now, IMO, much clearer. Thanks for that!
>
> But lots of changes are in "suggestion mode". I'd like to accept
> all those changes to increase the clarity and readability. Any 
> objection on
> this?
>
> Thanks and cheers
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> Le mercredi 12 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto 
> a écrit :
>
>> Hi Stéphane,
>>
>> I believe it's a great starting point, very complete (I would not
>> remember/consider some types of data).
>>
>> We still need to fill the second page and discuss the possible
>> UI/UX implementation. Then, we will need some developers (I'm not a
>> developer) to consider the requests and 

Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Neumann, Andreas]

Hi Alexandre, 

hm - I don't think we can allow more docking space for additional panels
taking more away from the  

Assuming you work on a small Netbook screen: if you have the layer panel
on the left and the styling panel on the right, you have a few pixels
left for the map itself. If you add another column for the browser
panel, you won't even have enough space for all the panels. 

Now you could say, one shouldn't use a Netbook for QGIS - but how many
times did you have to present on a video projector that only supports
1024x768, or even worse 800x600. It would be nightmare if there is an
additional panel. 

Andreas 

On 2017-05-02 16:10, Alexandre Neto wrote:

> Looking into the proposal, makes me wonder if it would be possible to add the 
> Browser panel (that will need to be big enough for the dialogs) to the right 
> of the Layers Panel (assuming the default). That would imply a new area to 
> allow docking panels. 
> 
> Alexandre Neto  escreveu no dia segunda, 1/05/2017 às 
> 00:02: 
> Great, thanks for the update!  
> 
> Anita Graser  escreveu no dia domingo, 30/04/2017 às 
> 21:19: 
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> We just finished our discussion on the unified add layer dialog and we are 
> optimistic that it will make its way into 3.0. You can find a short summary 
> of the planned steps at the end of the doc: 
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>  
> 
> Please feel free to ask if there are any questions. 
> 
> Best wishes, 
> Anita 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Stéphane Henriod  
> wrote:
> 
> Very good! 
> 
> Looking forward to hearing the outcome of these discussions! 
> 
> Cheers and thanks for your support here 
> 
> Stéphane 
> 
> "When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make you 
> comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." -- Clifton 
> Fadiman
> 
> 2017-04-27 22:54 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto :
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Some of my colleagues will be in Essen for QGIS Developers meeting. They will 
> bring this up, and try to get the opinion of other developers. I'm sure 
> everyone there will be interested in contributing with ideas for it.
> 
> So, let's wait for now.
> 
> Thanks for your work. 
> 
> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia quinta, 27/04/2017 
> às 09:42: Hi all 
> 
> I would be more than happy to help push this new feature forward but I am not 
> really sure what is needed now? 
> 
> Alexandre, I think you mentioned that your company might be interested to 
> implement this unique "Add layer" button. Does the Gdoc now contain 
> sufficient information for you to move on and identify what can realistically 
> be done? Or is there a need for more polishing?
> 
> Thanks in advance! 
> 
> Stéphane 
> 
> Le vendredi 21 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod  a écrit :
> 
> Done! 
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>  
> 
> "When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make you 
> comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." -- Clifton 
> Fadiman
> 
> 2017-04-20 14:47 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto :
> 
> Fine with me.  
> 
> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça, 18/04/2017 às 
> 05:46: Hi all 
> 
> Harrissou has quite intensively re-organised the doc, which is now, IMO, much 
> clearer. Thanks for that! 
> 
> But lots of changes are in "suggestion mode". I'd like to accept all those 
> changes to increase the clarity and readability. Any objection on this? 
> 
> Thanks and cheers 
> 
> Stéphane 
> 
> Le mercredi 12 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto  a écrit :
> 
> Hi Stéphane, 
> 
> I believe it's a great starting point, very complete (I would not 
> remember/consider some types of data).
> 
> We still need to fill the second page and discuss the possible UI/UX 
> implementation. Then, we will need some developers (I'm not a developer) to 
> consider the requests and filter what would be hard or impossible to tackle. 
> 
> Our best chance to have this implemented is by doing baby steps. I would not 
> consider more data format/providers than the ones we have in the manage 
> layers toolbar in this first phase. 
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça, 11/04/2017 às 
> 12:57: Hi Alexandre 
> 
> this is indeed great! 
> 
> Is the gdoc as it is now helpful enough for you to design a possible 
> implementation? Or, if not, what other inputs / comments would be necessary? 
> 
> Cheers 
> 
> Stéphane 
> 
> Le lundi 10 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto  a écrit :
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> At Boundless we are planning to put some development time in this "unified 
> add layer" button/feature. As others already did, our idea was to use the 
> browser 

Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Alexandre Neto]

Looking into the proposal, makes me wonder if it would be possible to add
the Browser panel (that will need to be big enough for the dialogs) to the
right of the Layers Panel (assuming the default). That would imply a new
area to allow docking panels.

Alexandre Neto  escreveu no dia segunda, 1/05/2017
às 00:02:

> Great, thanks for the update!
>
> Anita Graser  escreveu no dia domingo, 30/04/2017 às
> 21:19:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We just finished our discussion on the unified add layer dialog and we
>> are optimistic that it will make its way into 3.0. You can find a short
>> summary of the planned steps at the end of the doc:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> Please feel free to ask if there are any questions.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Anita
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Stéphane Henriod 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Very good!
>>>
>>> Looking forward to hearing the outcome of these discussions!
>>>
>>> Cheers and thanks for your support here
>>>
>>> Stéphane
>>>
>>>
>>> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to
>>> make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable."
>>> -- Clifton Fadiman
>>>
>>> 2017-04-27 22:54 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto :
>>>
 Hi,

 Some of my colleagues will be in Essen for QGIS Developers meeting.
 They will bring this up, and try to get the opinion of other developers.
 I'm sure everyone there will be interested in contributing with ideas for
 it.

 So, let's wait for now.

 Thanks for your work.

 Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia quinta,
 27/04/2017 às 09:42:

> Hi all
>
> I would be more than happy to help push this new feature forward but I
> am not really sure what is needed now?
>
> Alexandre, I think you mentioned that your company might be interested
> to implement this unique "Add layer" button. Does the Gdoc now contain
> sufficient information for you to move on and identify what can
> realistically be done? Or is there a need for more polishing?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> Le vendredi 21 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod  a
> écrit :
>
>> Done!
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>>
>> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to
>> make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable."
>> -- Clifton Fadiman
>>
>> 2017-04-20 14:47 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto :
>>
>>> Fine with me.
>>>
>>> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça,
>>> 18/04/2017 às 05:46:
>>>
 Hi all

 Harrissou has quite intensively re-organised the doc, which is now,
 IMO, much clearer. Thanks for that!

 But lots of changes are in "suggestion mode". I'd like to accept
 all those changes to increase the clarity and readability. Any 
 objection on
 this?

 Thanks and cheers

 Stéphane


 Le mercredi 12 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto 
 a écrit :

> Hi Stéphane,
>
> I believe it's a great starting point, very complete (I would not
> remember/consider some types of data).
>
> We still need to fill the second page and discuss the possible
> UI/UX implementation. Then, we will need some developers (I'm not a
> developer) to consider the requests and filter what would be hard or
> impossible to tackle.
>
> Our best chance to have this implemented is by doing baby steps. I
> would not consider more data format/providers than the ones we have 
> in the
> manage layers toolbar in this first phase.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça,
> 11/04/2017 às 12:57:
>
>> Hi Alexandre
>>
>> this is indeed great!
>>
>> Is the gdoc as it is now helpful enough for you to design a
>> possible implementation? Or, if not, what other inputs / comments 
>> would be
>> necessary?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>> Le lundi 10 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> At Boundless we are planning to put some development time in
>>> this "unified add layer" button/feature. As others already did, our 
>>> idea
>>> was to use the browser 

Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Alexandre Neto]

Great, thanks for the update!

Anita Graser  escreveu no dia domingo, 30/04/2017 às
21:19:

> Hi,
>
> We just finished our discussion on the unified add layer dialog and we are
> optimistic that it will make its way into 3.0. You can find a short summary
> of the planned steps at the end of the doc:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Please feel free to ask if there are any questions.
>
> Best wishes,
> Anita
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Stéphane Henriod 
> wrote:
>
>> Very good!
>>
>> Looking forward to hearing the outcome of these discussions!
>>
>> Cheers and thanks for your support here
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make
>> you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." --
>> Clifton Fadiman
>>
>> 2017-04-27 22:54 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto :
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Some of my colleagues will be in Essen for QGIS Developers meeting. They
>>> will bring this up, and try to get the opinion of other developers. I'm
>>> sure everyone there will be interested in contributing with ideas for it.
>>>
>>> So, let's wait for now.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your work.
>>>
>>> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia quinta,
>>> 27/04/2017 às 09:42:
>>>
 Hi all

 I would be more than happy to help push this new feature forward but I
 am not really sure what is needed now?

 Alexandre, I think you mentioned that your company might be interested
 to implement this unique "Add layer" button. Does the Gdoc now contain
 sufficient information for you to move on and identify what can
 realistically be done? Or is there a need for more polishing?

 Thanks in advance!

 Stéphane


 Le vendredi 21 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod  a
 écrit :

> Done!
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>
>
> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to
> make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable."
> -- Clifton Fadiman
>
> 2017-04-20 14:47 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto :
>
>> Fine with me.
>>
>> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça,
>> 18/04/2017 às 05:46:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Harrissou has quite intensively re-organised the doc, which is now,
>>> IMO, much clearer. Thanks for that!
>>>
>>> But lots of changes are in "suggestion mode". I'd like to accept all
>>> those changes to increase the clarity and readability. Any objection on
>>> this?
>>>
>>> Thanks and cheers
>>>
>>> Stéphane
>>>
>>>
>>> Le mercredi 12 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto  a
>>> écrit :
>>>
 Hi Stéphane,

 I believe it's a great starting point, very complete (I would not
 remember/consider some types of data).

 We still need to fill the second page and discuss the possible
 UI/UX implementation. Then, we will need some developers (I'm not a
 developer) to consider the requests and filter what would be hard or
 impossible to tackle.

 Our best chance to have this implemented is by doing baby steps. I
 would not consider more data format/providers than the ones we have in 
 the
 manage layers toolbar in this first phase.

 Thanks!

 Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça,
 11/04/2017 às 12:57:

> Hi Alexandre
>
> this is indeed great!
>
> Is the gdoc as it is now helpful enough for you to design a
> possible implementation? Or, if not, what other inputs / comments 
> would be
> necessary?
>
> Cheers
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> Le lundi 10 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto  a
> écrit :
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> At Boundless we are planning to put some development time in this
>> "unified add layer" button/feature. As others already did, our idea 
>> was to
>> use the browser panel as a base for replacing most of the buttons 
>> and add
>> any capabilities that are still missing.
>>
>> So, let's work together to find what are those missing pieces,
>> and how it would be the best way to implement it. We will put our 
>> thoughts
>> in the Google document. As soon we have it stabilized we can start 
>> creating
>> a QEP for it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Alexandre Neto

Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Anita Graser]

Hi,

We just finished our discussion on the unified add layer dialog and we are
optimistic that it will make its way into 3.0. You can find a short summary
of the planned steps at the end of the doc:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing

Please feel free to ask if there are any questions.

Best wishes,
Anita




On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Stéphane Henriod 
wrote:

> Very good!
>
> Looking forward to hearing the outcome of these discussions!
>
> Cheers and thanks for your support here
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make
> you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." --
> Clifton Fadiman
>
> 2017-04-27 22:54 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Some of my colleagues will be in Essen for QGIS Developers meeting. They
>> will bring this up, and try to get the opinion of other developers. I'm
>> sure everyone there will be interested in contributing with ideas for it.
>>
>> So, let's wait for now.
>>
>> Thanks for your work.
>>
>> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia quinta,
>> 27/04/2017 às 09:42:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I would be more than happy to help push this new feature forward but I
>>> am not really sure what is needed now?
>>>
>>> Alexandre, I think you mentioned that your company might be interested
>>> to implement this unique "Add layer" button. Does the Gdoc now contain
>>> sufficient information for you to move on and identify what can
>>> realistically be done? Or is there a need for more polishing?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> Stéphane
>>>
>>>
>>> Le vendredi 21 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod  a
>>> écrit :
>>>
 Done!

 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRp
 HCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing


 “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to
 make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable."
 -- Clifton Fadiman

 2017-04-20 14:47 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto :

> Fine with me.
>
> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça,
> 18/04/2017 às 05:46:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Harrissou has quite intensively re-organised the doc, which is now,
>> IMO, much clearer. Thanks for that!
>>
>> But lots of changes are in "suggestion mode". I'd like to accept all
>> those changes to increase the clarity and readability. Any objection on
>> this?
>>
>> Thanks and cheers
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>> Le mercredi 12 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Stéphane,
>>>
>>> I believe it's a great starting point, very complete (I would not
>>> remember/consider some types of data).
>>>
>>> We still need to fill the second page and discuss the possible UI/UX
>>> implementation. Then, we will need some developers (I'm not a 
>>> developer) to
>>> consider the requests and filter what would be hard or impossible to 
>>> tackle.
>>>
>>> Our best chance to have this implemented is by doing baby steps. I
>>> would not consider more data format/providers than the ones we have in 
>>> the
>>> manage layers toolbar in this first phase.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça,
>>> 11/04/2017 às 12:57:
>>>
 Hi Alexandre

 this is indeed great!

 Is the gdoc as it is now helpful enough for you to design a
 possible implementation? Or, if not, what other inputs / comments 
 would be
 necessary?

 Cheers

 Stéphane


 Le lundi 10 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto  a
 écrit :

> Hello all,
>
> At Boundless we are planning to put some development time in this
> "unified add layer" button/feature. As others already did, our idea 
> was to
> use the browser panel as a base for replacing most of the buttons and 
> add
> any capabilities that are still missing.
>
> So, let's work together to find what are those missing pieces, and
> how it would be the best way to implement it. We will put our 
> thoughts in
> the Google document. As soon we have it stabilized we can start 
> creating a
> QEP for it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alexandre Neto
>
> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia quinta,
> 6/04/2017 às 12:14:
>
>> Thanks Harrissou!
>>
>> I took the liberty to remove the first table (that I created) and
>> to leave only yours. It 

Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Stéphane Henriod]

Very good!

Looking forward to hearing the outcome of these discussions!

Cheers and thanks for your support here

Stéphane


“When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make
you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." --
Clifton Fadiman

2017-04-27 22:54 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto :

> Hi,
>
> Some of my colleagues will be in Essen for QGIS Developers meeting. They
> will bring this up, and try to get the opinion of other developers. I'm
> sure everyone there will be interested in contributing with ideas for it.
>
> So, let's wait for now.
>
> Thanks for your work.
>
> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia quinta,
> 27/04/2017 às 09:42:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I would be more than happy to help push this new feature forward but I am
>> not really sure what is needed now?
>>
>> Alexandre, I think you mentioned that your company might be interested to
>> implement this unique "Add layer" button. Does the Gdoc now contain
>> sufficient information for you to move on and identify what can
>> realistically be done? Or is there a need for more polishing?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>> Le vendredi 21 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Done!
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7U
>>> J1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>
>>> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to
>>> make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable."
>>> -- Clifton Fadiman
>>>
>>> 2017-04-20 14:47 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto :
>>>
 Fine with me.

 Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça,
 18/04/2017 às 05:46:

> Hi all
>
> Harrissou has quite intensively re-organised the doc, which is now,
> IMO, much clearer. Thanks for that!
>
> But lots of changes are in "suggestion mode". I'd like to accept all
> those changes to increase the clarity and readability. Any objection on
> this?
>
> Thanks and cheers
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> Le mercredi 12 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto  a
> écrit :
>
>> Hi Stéphane,
>>
>> I believe it's a great starting point, very complete (I would not
>> remember/consider some types of data).
>>
>> We still need to fill the second page and discuss the possible UI/UX
>> implementation. Then, we will need some developers (I'm not a developer) 
>> to
>> consider the requests and filter what would be hard or impossible to 
>> tackle.
>>
>> Our best chance to have this implemented is by doing baby steps. I
>> would not consider more data format/providers than the ones we have in 
>> the
>> manage layers toolbar in this first phase.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça,
>> 11/04/2017 às 12:57:
>>
>>> Hi Alexandre
>>>
>>> this is indeed great!
>>>
>>> Is the gdoc as it is now helpful enough for you to design a possible
>>> implementation? Or, if not, what other inputs / comments would be 
>>> necessary?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Stéphane
>>>
>>>
>>> Le lundi 10 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto  a
>>> écrit :
>>>
 Hello all,

 At Boundless we are planning to put some development time in this
 "unified add layer" button/feature. As others already did, our idea 
 was to
 use the browser panel as a base for replacing most of the buttons and 
 add
 any capabilities that are still missing.

 So, let's work together to find what are those missing pieces, and
 how it would be the best way to implement it. We will put our thoughts 
 in
 the Google document. As soon we have it stabilized we can start 
 creating a
 QEP for it.

 Thanks,

 Alexandre Neto

 Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia quinta,
 6/04/2017 às 12:14:

> Thanks Harrissou!
>
> I took the liberty to remove the first table (that I created) and
> to leave only yours. It is more complete anyway
>
> Cheers
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> Le mercredi 5 avril 2017, DelazJ  a écrit :
>
>> I took the liberty to do some changes to the doc (especially add
>> a new table with more detailed features on the existing tools + 
>> comments).
>> It's supposed to replace the table already drafted but I didn't go 
>> so far
>> without a review.
>>
>> 2017-04-05 10:36 GMT+02:00 DelazJ :
>>
>>> Hi Stéphane,
>>> actually 

Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Alexandre Neto]

Hi,

Some of my colleagues will be in Essen for QGIS Developers meeting. They
will bring this up, and try to get the opinion of other developers. I'm
sure everyone there will be interested in contributing with ideas for it.

So, let's wait for now.

Thanks for your work.

Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia quinta, 27/04/2017
às 09:42:

> Hi all
>
> I would be more than happy to help push this new feature forward but I am
> not really sure what is needed now?
>
> Alexandre, I think you mentioned that your company might be interested to
> implement this unique "Add layer" button. Does the Gdoc now contain
> sufficient information for you to move on and identify what can
> realistically be done? Or is there a need for more polishing?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> Le vendredi 21 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod  a
> écrit :
>
>> Done!
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>>
>> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make
>> you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." --
>> Clifton Fadiman
>>
>> 2017-04-20 14:47 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto :
>>
>>> Fine with me.
>>>
>>> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça,
>>> 18/04/2017 às 05:46:
>>>
 Hi all

 Harrissou has quite intensively re-organised the doc, which is now,
 IMO, much clearer. Thanks for that!

 But lots of changes are in "suggestion mode". I'd like to accept all
 those changes to increase the clarity and readability. Any objection on
 this?

 Thanks and cheers

 Stéphane


 Le mercredi 12 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto  a
 écrit :

> Hi Stéphane,
>
> I believe it's a great starting point, very complete (I would not
> remember/consider some types of data).
>
> We still need to fill the second page and discuss the possible UI/UX
> implementation. Then, we will need some developers (I'm not a developer) 
> to
> consider the requests and filter what would be hard or impossible to 
> tackle.
>
> Our best chance to have this implemented is by doing baby steps. I
> would not consider more data format/providers than the ones we have in the
> manage layers toolbar in this first phase.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça,
> 11/04/2017 às 12:57:
>
>> Hi Alexandre
>>
>> this is indeed great!
>>
>> Is the gdoc as it is now helpful enough for you to design a possible
>> implementation? Or, if not, what other inputs / comments would be 
>> necessary?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>> Le lundi 10 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto  a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> At Boundless we are planning to put some development time in this
>>> "unified add layer" button/feature. As others already did, our idea was 
>>> to
>>> use the browser panel as a base for replacing most of the buttons and 
>>> add
>>> any capabilities that are still missing.
>>>
>>> So, let's work together to find what are those missing pieces, and
>>> how it would be the best way to implement it. We will put our thoughts 
>>> in
>>> the Google document. As soon we have it stabilized we can start 
>>> creating a
>>> QEP for it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Alexandre Neto
>>>
>>> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia quinta,
>>> 6/04/2017 às 12:14:
>>>
 Thanks Harrissou!

 I took the liberty to remove the first table (that I created) and
 to leave only yours. It is more complete anyway

 Cheers

 Stéphane


 Le mercredi 5 avril 2017, DelazJ  a écrit :

> I took the liberty to do some changes to the doc (especially add a
> new table with more detailed features on the existing tools + 
> comments).
> It's supposed to replace the table already drafted but I didn't go so 
> far
> without a review.
>
> 2017-04-05 10:36 GMT+02:00 DelazJ :
>
>> Hi Stéphane,
>> actually there's no more UX team (list). UX mailing list has been
>> shut down months ago because it used to refer to dev list for most of
>> decisions/advices so UX matters are now discussed either in the dev 
>> mailing
>> list (we maybe can keep this thread) or, I guess until QGIS3 
>> release, in
>> the qgis3_UIX_discussion repository.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Harrissou
>>
>> 2017-04-05 10:19 GMT+02:00 Stéphane Henriod <
>> 

Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Stéphane Henriod]

Hi all

I would be more than happy to help push this new feature forward but I am
not really sure what is needed now?

Alexandre, I think you mentioned that your company might be interested to
implement this unique "Add layer" button. Does the Gdoc now contain
sufficient information for you to move on and identify what can
realistically be done? Or is there a need for more polishing?

Thanks in advance!

Stéphane


Le vendredi 21 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod  a
écrit :

> Done!
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7U
> J1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>
>
> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make
> you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." --
> Clifton Fadiman
>
> 2017-04-20 14:47 GMT+06:00 Alexandre Neto  >:
>
>> Fine with me.
>>
>> Stéphane Henriod > > escreveu no dia
>> terça, 18/04/2017 às 05:46:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Harrissou has quite intensively re-organised the doc, which is now, IMO,
>>> much clearer. Thanks for that!
>>>
>>> But lots of changes are in "suggestion mode". I'd like to accept all
>>> those changes to increase the clarity and readability. Any objection on
>>> this?
>>>
>>> Thanks and cheers
>>>
>>> Stéphane
>>>
>>>
>>> Le mercredi 12 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto >> > a écrit :
>>>
 Hi Stéphane,

 I believe it's a great starting point, very complete (I would not
 remember/consider some types of data).

 We still need to fill the second page and discuss the possible UI/UX
 implementation. Then, we will need some developers (I'm not a developer) to
 consider the requests and filter what would be hard or impossible to 
 tackle.

 Our best chance to have this implemented is by doing baby steps. I
 would not consider more data format/providers than the ones we have in the
 manage layers toolbar in this first phase.

 Thanks!

 Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça,
 11/04/2017 às 12:57:

> Hi Alexandre
>
> this is indeed great!
>
> Is the gdoc as it is now helpful enough for you to design a possible
> implementation? Or, if not, what other inputs / comments would be 
> necessary?
>
> Cheers
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> Le lundi 10 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto  a
> écrit :
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> At Boundless we are planning to put some development time in this
>> "unified add layer" button/feature. As others already did, our idea was 
>> to
>> use the browser panel as a base for replacing most of the buttons and add
>> any capabilities that are still missing.
>>
>> So, let's work together to find what are those missing pieces, and
>> how it would be the best way to implement it. We will put our thoughts in
>> the Google document. As soon we have it stabilized we can start creating 
>> a
>> QEP for it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Alexandre Neto
>>
>> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia quinta,
>> 6/04/2017 às 12:14:
>>
>>> Thanks Harrissou!
>>>
>>> I took the liberty to remove the first table (that I created) and to
>>> leave only yours. It is more complete anyway
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Stéphane
>>>
>>>
>>> Le mercredi 5 avril 2017, DelazJ  a écrit :
>>>
 I took the liberty to do some changes to the doc (especially add a
 new table with more detailed features on the existing tools + 
 comments).
 It's supposed to replace the table already drafted but I didn't go so 
 far
 without a review.

 2017-04-05 10:36 GMT+02:00 DelazJ :

> Hi Stéphane,
> actually there's no more UX team (list). UX mailing list has been
> shut down months ago because it used to refer to dev list for most of
> decisions/advices so UX matters are now discussed either in the dev 
> mailing
> list (we maybe can keep this thread) or, I guess until QGIS3 release, 
> in
> the qgis3_UIX_discussion repository.
>
>
> Regards,
> Harrissou
>
> 2017-04-05 10:19 GMT+02:00 Stéphane Henriod  >:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> there have been a few additions in the Gdoc already (not sure
>> from whom) but I don't know if this is already sufficient for 
>> developers to
>> take this up?
>>
>> Also, I am not sure how to reach out to the UX team. Through a
>> separate 

Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Alexandre Neto]

Fine with me.

Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça, 18/04/2017
às 05:46:

> Hi all
>
> Harrissou has quite intensively re-organised the doc, which is now, IMO,
> much clearer. Thanks for that!
>
> But lots of changes are in "suggestion mode". I'd like to accept all those
> changes to increase the clarity and readability. Any objection on this?
>
> Thanks and cheers
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> Le mercredi 12 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto  a
> écrit :
>
>> Hi Stéphane,
>>
>> I believe it's a great starting point, very complete (I would not
>> remember/consider some types of data).
>>
>> We still need to fill the second page and discuss the possible UI/UX
>> implementation. Then, we will need some developers (I'm not a developer) to
>> consider the requests and filter what would be hard or impossible to tackle.
>>
>> Our best chance to have this implemented is by doing baby steps. I would
>> not consider more data format/providers than the ones we have in the manage
>> layers toolbar in this first phase.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça,
>> 11/04/2017 às 12:57:
>>
>>> Hi Alexandre
>>>
>>> this is indeed great!
>>>
>>> Is the gdoc as it is now helpful enough for you to design a possible
>>> implementation? Or, if not, what other inputs / comments would be necessary?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Stéphane
>>>
>>>
>>> Le lundi 10 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto  a écrit :
>>>
 Hello all,

 At Boundless we are planning to put some development time in this
 "unified add layer" button/feature. As others already did, our idea was to
 use the browser panel as a base for replacing most of the buttons and add
 any capabilities that are still missing.

 So, let's work together to find what are those missing pieces, and how
 it would be the best way to implement it. We will put our thoughts in the
 Google document. As soon we have it stabilized we can start creating a QEP
 for it.

 Thanks,

 Alexandre Neto

 Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia quinta,
 6/04/2017 às 12:14:

> Thanks Harrissou!
>
> I took the liberty to remove the first table (that I created) and to
> leave only yours. It is more complete anyway
>
> Cheers
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> Le mercredi 5 avril 2017, DelazJ  a écrit :
>
>> I took the liberty to do some changes to the doc (especially add a
>> new table with more detailed features on the existing tools + comments).
>> It's supposed to replace the table already drafted but I didn't go so far
>> without a review.
>>
>> 2017-04-05 10:36 GMT+02:00 DelazJ :
>>
>>> Hi Stéphane,
>>> actually there's no more UX team (list). UX mailing list has been
>>> shut down months ago because it used to refer to dev list for most of
>>> decisions/advices so UX matters are now discussed either in the dev 
>>> mailing
>>> list (we maybe can keep this thread) or, I guess until QGIS3 release, in
>>> the qgis3_UIX_discussion repository.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Harrissou
>>>
>>> 2017-04-05 10:19 GMT+02:00 Stéphane Henriod :
>>>
 Hi all

 there have been a few additions in the Gdoc already (not sure from
 whom) but I don't know if this is already sufficient for developers to 
 take
 this up?

 Also, I am not sure how to reach out to the UX team. Through a
 separate mailing list? Or is it sufficient to have it here
 https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/1 ?

 Cheer

 Stéphane


 Le mardi 4 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod  a
 écrit :

> Thanks Nyall!
>
> Here I just created a Gdoc to collect info mentioned in your
> points 1-4 + a:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>
> All interested, feel free to contribute, I might not have the full
> overview
>
> Thanks and cheers
>
> Stéphane
>
>
>
> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed
> to make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people
> comfortable." -- Clifton Fadiman
>
> 2017-04-04 13:53 GMT+06:00 Nyall Dawson :
>
>> On 4 April 2017 at 17:46, Stéphane Henriod 
>> wrote:
>> > Thanks a lot Anita for the info!
>> >
>> > I re-located the issue: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/9451
>> >
>> > Not sure though if this will make it alive again. Let's 

Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Stéphane Henriod]

Hi all

Harrissou has quite intensively re-organised the doc, which is now, IMO,
much clearer. Thanks for that!

But lots of changes are in "suggestion mode". I'd like to accept all those
changes to increase the clarity and readability. Any objection on this?

Thanks and cheers

Stéphane


Le mercredi 12 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto  a écrit :

> Hi Stéphane,
>
> I believe it's a great starting point, very complete (I would not
> remember/consider some types of data).
>
> We still need to fill the second page and discuss the possible UI/UX
> implementation. Then, we will need some developers (I'm not a developer) to
> consider the requests and filter what would be hard or impossible to tackle.
>
> Our best chance to have this implemented is by doing baby steps. I would
> not consider more data format/providers than the ones we have in the manage
> layers toolbar in this first phase.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Stéphane Henriod  > escreveu no dia
> terça, 11/04/2017 às 12:57:
>
>> Hi Alexandre
>>
>> this is indeed great!
>>
>> Is the gdoc as it is now helpful enough for you to design a possible
>> implementation? Or, if not, what other inputs / comments would be necessary?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>> Le lundi 10 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto > > a écrit :
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> At Boundless we are planning to put some development time in this
>>> "unified add layer" button/feature. As others already did, our idea was to
>>> use the browser panel as a base for replacing most of the buttons and add
>>> any capabilities that are still missing.
>>>
>>> So, let's work together to find what are those missing pieces, and how
>>> it would be the best way to implement it. We will put our thoughts in the
>>> Google document. As soon we have it stabilized we can start creating a QEP
>>> for it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Alexandre Neto
>>>
>>> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia quinta,
>>> 6/04/2017 às 12:14:
>>>
 Thanks Harrissou!

 I took the liberty to remove the first table (that I created) and to
 leave only yours. It is more complete anyway

 Cheers

 Stéphane


 Le mercredi 5 avril 2017, DelazJ  a écrit :

> I took the liberty to do some changes to the doc (especially add a new
> table with more detailed features on the existing tools + comments). It's
> supposed to replace the table already drafted but I didn't go so far
> without a review.
>
> 2017-04-05 10:36 GMT+02:00 DelazJ :
>
>> Hi Stéphane,
>> actually there's no more UX team (list). UX mailing list has been
>> shut down months ago because it used to refer to dev list for most of
>> decisions/advices so UX matters are now discussed either in the dev 
>> mailing
>> list (we maybe can keep this thread) or, I guess until QGIS3 release, in
>> the qgis3_UIX_discussion repository.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Harrissou
>>
>> 2017-04-05 10:19 GMT+02:00 Stéphane Henriod :
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> there have been a few additions in the Gdoc already (not sure from
>>> whom) but I don't know if this is already sufficient for developers to 
>>> take
>>> this up?
>>>
>>> Also, I am not sure how to reach out to the UX team. Through a
>>> separate mailing list? Or is it sufficient to have it here
>>> https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/1 ?
>>>
>>> Cheer
>>>
>>> Stéphane
>>>
>>>
>>> Le mardi 4 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod  a
>>> écrit :
>>>
 Thanks Nyall!

 Here I just created a Gdoc to collect info mentioned in your points
 1-4 + a:

 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7U
 J1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing

 All interested, feel free to contribute, I might not have the full
 overview

 Thanks and cheers

 Stéphane



 “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed
 to make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people
 comfortable." -- Clifton Fadiman

 2017-04-04 13:53 GMT+06:00 Nyall Dawson :

> On 4 April 2017 at 17:46, Stéphane Henriod 
> wrote:
> > Thanks a lot Anita for the info!
> >
> > I re-located the issue: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/9451
> >
> > Not sure though if this will make it alive again. Let's see if
> this seems to
> > be a priority for enough users...
> >
>
> I'd say a good plan to move this 

Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Alexandre Neto]

Hi Stéphane,

I believe it's a great starting point, very complete (I would not
remember/consider some types of data).

We still need to fill the second page and discuss the possible UI/UX
implementation. Then, we will need some developers (I'm not a developer) to
consider the requests and filter what would be hard or impossible to tackle.

Our best chance to have this implemented is by doing baby steps. I would
not consider more data format/providers than the ones we have in the manage
layers toolbar in this first phase.

Thanks!

Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia terça, 11/04/2017
às 12:57:

> Hi Alexandre
>
> this is indeed great!
>
> Is the gdoc as it is now helpful enough for you to design a possible
> implementation? Or, if not, what other inputs / comments would be necessary?
>
> Cheers
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> Le lundi 10 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto  a écrit :
>
> Hello all,
>
> At Boundless we are planning to put some development time in this "unified
> add layer" button/feature. As others already did, our idea was to use the
> browser panel as a base for replacing most of the buttons and add any
> capabilities that are still missing.
>
> So, let's work together to find what are those missing pieces, and how it
> would be the best way to implement it. We will put our thoughts in the
> Google document. As soon we have it stabilized we can start creating a QEP
> for it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alexandre Neto
>
> Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia quinta,
> 6/04/2017 às 12:14:
>
> Thanks Harrissou!
>
> I took the liberty to remove the first table (that I created) and to leave
> only yours. It is more complete anyway
>
> Cheers
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> Le mercredi 5 avril 2017, DelazJ  a écrit :
>
> I took the liberty to do some changes to the doc (especially add a new
> table with more detailed features on the existing tools + comments). It's
> supposed to replace the table already drafted but I didn't go so far
> without a review.
>
> 2017-04-05 10:36 GMT+02:00 DelazJ :
>
> Hi Stéphane,
> actually there's no more UX team (list). UX mailing list has been shut
> down months ago because it used to refer to dev list for most of
> decisions/advices so UX matters are now discussed either in the dev mailing
> list (we maybe can keep this thread) or, I guess until QGIS3 release, in
> the qgis3_UIX_discussion repository.
>
>
> Regards,
> Harrissou
>
> 2017-04-05 10:19 GMT+02:00 Stéphane Henriod :
>
> Hi all
>
> there have been a few additions in the Gdoc already (not sure from whom)
> but I don't know if this is already sufficient for developers to take this
> up?
>
> Also, I am not sure how to reach out to the UX team. Through a separate
> mailing list? Or is it sufficient to have it here
> https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/1 ?
>
> Cheer
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> Le mardi 4 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod  a écrit :
>
> Thanks Nyall!
>
> Here I just created a Gdoc to collect info mentioned in your points 1-4 +
> a:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>
> All interested, feel free to contribute, I might not have the full overview
>
> Thanks and cheers
>
> Stéphane
>
>
>
> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make
> you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." --
> Clifton Fadiman
>
> 2017-04-04 13:53 GMT+06:00 Nyall Dawson :
>
> On 4 April 2017 at 17:46, Stéphane Henriod  wrote:
> > Thanks a lot Anita for the info!
> >
> > I re-located the issue: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/9451
> >
> > Not sure though if this will make it alive again. Let's see if this
> seems to
> > be a priority for enough users...
> >
>
> I'd say a good plan to move this forward would be to:
>
> 1. conduct a thorough survey of what's available via the individual
> add vector layer dialogs vs what's currently available in the browser
> 2. rank each of the missing settings vs whether or not they are still
> required
> 3. file issues for these missing settings
> 4. ...and get these fixed/implemented
>
> a. While this is underway I'd also suggest the UX team could test and
> evaluate Anita's plugin to identify whether the browser alone is a
> sufficient replacement or whether some tweaks would be required to
> make it a suitable replacement without any loss of "user friendliness"
>
> 1,2,3 and (a) don't require any development experience, so would be a
> great project for any interested user to undertake. I suspect 4
> wouldn't be much work for a developer either after all this groundwork
> is done.
>
> Nyall
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make
> you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." --
> Clifton Fadiman
>
>
> 

Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Stéphane Henriod]

Hi Alexandre

this is indeed great!

Is the gdoc as it is now helpful enough for you to design a possible
implementation? Or, if not, what other inputs / comments would be necessary?

Cheers

Stéphane


Le lundi 10 avril 2017, Alexandre Neto  a écrit :

> Hello all,
>
> At Boundless we are planning to put some development time in this "unified
> add layer" button/feature. As others already did, our idea was to use the
> browser panel as a base for replacing most of the buttons and add any
> capabilities that are still missing.
>
> So, let's work together to find what are those missing pieces, and how it
> would be the best way to implement it. We will put our thoughts in the
> Google document. As soon we have it stabilized we can start creating a QEP
> for it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alexandre Neto
>
> Stéphane Henriod  > escreveu no dia
> quinta, 6/04/2017 às 12:14:
>
>> Thanks Harrissou!
>>
>> I took the liberty to remove the first table (that I created) and to
>> leave only yours. It is more complete anyway
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>> Le mercredi 5 avril 2017, DelazJ > > a écrit :
>>
>>> I took the liberty to do some changes to the doc (especially add a new
>>> table with more detailed features on the existing tools + comments). It's
>>> supposed to replace the table already drafted but I didn't go so far
>>> without a review.
>>>
>>> 2017-04-05 10:36 GMT+02:00 DelazJ :
>>>
 Hi Stéphane,
 actually there's no more UX team (list). UX mailing list has been shut
 down months ago because it used to refer to dev list for most of
 decisions/advices so UX matters are now discussed either in the dev mailing
 list (we maybe can keep this thread) or, I guess until QGIS3 release, in
 the qgis3_UIX_discussion repository.


 Regards,
 Harrissou

 2017-04-05 10:19 GMT+02:00 Stéphane Henriod :

> Hi all
>
> there have been a few additions in the Gdoc already (not sure from
> whom) but I don't know if this is already sufficient for developers to 
> take
> this up?
>
> Also, I am not sure how to reach out to the UX team. Through a
> separate mailing list? Or is it sufficient to have it here
> https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/1 ?
>
> Cheer
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> Le mardi 4 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod  a
> écrit :
>
>> Thanks Nyall!
>>
>> Here I just created a Gdoc to collect info mentioned in your points
>> 1-4 + a:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7U
>> J1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> All interested, feel free to contribute, I might not have the full
>> overview
>>
>> Thanks and cheers
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>>
>> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to
>> make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable."
>> -- Clifton Fadiman
>>
>> 2017-04-04 13:53 GMT+06:00 Nyall Dawson :
>>
>>> On 4 April 2017 at 17:46, Stéphane Henriod 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Thanks a lot Anita for the info!
>>> >
>>> > I re-located the issue: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/9451
>>> >
>>> > Not sure though if this will make it alive again. Let's see if
>>> this seems to
>>> > be a priority for enough users...
>>> >
>>>
>>> I'd say a good plan to move this forward would be to:
>>>
>>> 1. conduct a thorough survey of what's available via the individual
>>> add vector layer dialogs vs what's currently available in the browser
>>> 2. rank each of the missing settings vs whether or not they are
>>> still required
>>> 3. file issues for these missing settings
>>> 4. ...and get these fixed/implemented
>>>
>>> a. While this is underway I'd also suggest the UX team could test and
>>> evaluate Anita's plugin to identify whether the browser alone is a
>>> sufficient replacement or whether some tweaks would be required to
>>> make it a suitable replacement without any loss of "user
>>> friendliness"
>>>
>>> 1,2,3 and (a) don't require any development experience, so would be a
>>> great project for any interested user to undertake. I suspect 4
>>> wouldn't be much work for a developer either after all this
>>> groundwork
>>> is done.
>>>
>>> Nyall
>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to
> make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable."
> -- Clifton Fadiman
>
>
> ___
> 

Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Tim Sutton]

Hi

> On 10 Apr 2017, at 5:11 PM, Alexandre Neto  wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> At Boundless we are planning to put some development time in this "unified 
> add layer" button/feature. As others already did, our idea was to use the 
> browser panel as a base for replacing most of the buttons and add any 
> capabilities that are still missing.
> 
> So, let's work together to find what are those missing pieces, and how it 
> would be the best way to implement it. We will put our thoughts in the Google 
> document. As soon we have it stabilized we can start creating a QEP for it.


This is really great to hear! Thanks Alexandre!

Regards

Tim

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Alexandre Neto
> 
> Stéphane Henriod > 
> escreveu no dia quinta, 6/04/2017 às 12:14:
> Thanks Harrissou!
> 
> I took the liberty to remove the first table (that I created) and to leave 
> only yours. It is more complete anyway
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> 
> Le mercredi 5 avril 2017, DelazJ > 
> a écrit :
> I took the liberty to do some changes to the doc (especially add a new table 
> with more detailed features on the existing tools + comments). It's supposed 
> to replace the table already drafted but I didn't go so far without a review.
> 
> 2017-04-05 10:36 GMT+02:00 DelazJ >:
> Hi Stéphane,
> actually there's no more UX team (list). UX mailing list has been shut down 
> months ago because it used to refer to dev list for most of decisions/advices 
> so UX matters are now discussed either in the dev mailing list (we maybe can 
> keep this thread) or, I guess until QGIS3 release, in the 
> qgis3_UIX_discussion repository.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Harrissou
> 
> 2017-04-05 10:19 GMT+02:00 Stéphane Henriod >:
> Hi all
> 
> there have been a few additions in the Gdoc already (not sure from whom) but 
> I don't know if this is already sufficient for developers to take this up?
> 
> Also, I am not sure how to reach out to the UX team. Through a separate 
> mailing list? Or is it sufficient to have it here 
> https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/1 
>  ?
> 
> Cheer
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> 
> Le mardi 4 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod > a écrit :
> Thanks Nyall!
> 
> Here I just created a Gdoc to collect info mentioned in your points 1-4 + a:
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>  
> 
> 
> All interested, feel free to contribute, I might not have the full overview
> 
> Thanks and cheers
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> 
> 
> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make you 
> comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." -- Clifton 
> Fadiman
> 
> 2017-04-04 13:53 GMT+06:00 Nyall Dawson >:
> On 4 April 2017 at 17:46, Stéphane Henriod > wrote:
> > Thanks a lot Anita for the info!
> >
> > I re-located the issue: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/9451 
> > 
> >
> > Not sure though if this will make it alive again. Let's see if this seems to
> > be a priority for enough users...
> >
> 
> I'd say a good plan to move this forward would be to:
> 
> 1. conduct a thorough survey of what's available via the individual
> add vector layer dialogs vs what's currently available in the browser
> 2. rank each of the missing settings vs whether or not they are still required
> 3. file issues for these missing settings
> 4. ...and get these fixed/implemented
> 
> a. While this is underway I'd also suggest the UX team could test and
> evaluate Anita's plugin to identify whether the browser alone is a
> sufficient replacement or whether some tweaks would be required to
> make it a suitable replacement without any loss of "user friendliness"
> 
> 1,2,3 and (a) don't require any development experience, so would be a
> great project for any interested user to undertake. I suspect 4
> wouldn't be much work for a developer either after all this groundwork
> is done.
> 
> Nyall
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make you 
> comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." -- Clifton 
> Fadiman
> 
> 
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Werner Macho]

Just because I recently found it ..
Mapwindow (which seem to have the same icon set as QGIS and GRASS) has
introduced such a "Add Data" Layer right from the beginning.
Maybe it is a good point to start (just because I see that there are
still Database buttons too)

http://www.mapwindow.org

regards
Werner

On 10/04/17 17:11, Alexandre Neto wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> At Boundless we are planning to put some development time in this
> "unified add layer" button/feature. As others already did, our idea was
> to use the browser panel as a base for replacing most of the buttons and
> add any capabilities that are still missing.
> 
> So, let's work together to find what are those missing pieces, and how
> it would be the best way to implement it. We will put our thoughts in
> the Google document. As soon we have it stabilized we can start creating
> a QEP for it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Alexandre Neto
> 
> Stéphane Henriod >
> escreveu no dia quinta, 6/04/2017 às 12:14:
> 
> Thanks Harrissou!
> 
> I took the liberty to remove the first table (that I created) and to
> leave only yours. It is more complete anyway
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> 
> Le mercredi 5 avril 2017, DelazJ  > a écrit :
> 
> I took the liberty to do some changes to the doc (especially add
> a new table with more detailed features on the existing tools +
> comments). It's supposed to replace the table already drafted
> but I didn't go so far without a review.
> 
> 2017-04-05 10:36 GMT+02:00 DelazJ :
> 
> Hi Stéphane,
> actually there's no more UX team (list). UX mailing list has
> been shut down months ago because it used to refer to dev
> list for most of decisions/advices so UX matters are now
> discussed either in the dev mailing list (we maybe can keep
> this thread) or, I guess until QGIS3 release, in the
> qgis3_UIX_discussion repository.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Harrissou
> 
> 2017-04-05 10:19 GMT+02:00 Stéphane Henriod
> :
> 
> Hi all
> 
> there have been a few additions in the Gdoc already (not
> sure from whom) but I don't know if this is already
> sufficient for developers to take this up?
> 
> Also, I am not sure how to reach out to the UX team.
> Through a separate mailing list? Or is it sufficient to
> have it
> here https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/1 ?
> 
> Cheer
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> 
> Le mardi 4 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod
>  a écrit :
> 
> Thanks Nyall!
> 
> Here I just created a Gdoc to collect info mentioned
> in your points 1-4 + a:
> 
> 
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
> 
> All interested, feel free to contribute, I might not
> have the full overview
> 
> Thanks and cheers
> 
> Stéphane
> 
> 
> 
> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is
> not designed to make you comfortable. It is designed
> to make its own people comfortable." -- Clifton Fadiman
> 
> 2017-04-04 13:53 GMT+06:00 Nyall Dawson
> :
> 
> On 4 April 2017 at 17:46, Stéphane Henriod
>  wrote:
> > Thanks a lot Anita for the info!
> >
> > I re-located the issue: 
> http://hub.qgis.org/issues/9451
> >
> > Not sure though if this will make it alive again. 
> Let's see if this seems to
> > be a priority for enough users...
> >
> 
> I'd say a good plan to move this forward would
> be to:
> 
> 1. conduct a thorough survey of what's available
> via the individual
> add vector layer dialogs vs what's currently
> available in the browser
> 2. rank each of the missing settings vs whether
> or not they are still required
> 3. file issues for these missing settings
> 4. ...and get these fixed/implemented
> 
> a. While this is underway I'd also suggest the
>  

Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Alexandre Neto]

Hello all,

At Boundless we are planning to put some development time in this "unified
add layer" button/feature. As others already did, our idea was to use the
browser panel as a base for replacing most of the buttons and add any
capabilities that are still missing.

So, let's work together to find what are those missing pieces, and how it
would be the best way to implement it. We will put our thoughts in the
Google document. As soon we have it stabilized we can start creating a QEP
for it.

Thanks,

Alexandre Neto

Stéphane Henriod  escreveu no dia quinta, 6/04/2017
às 12:14:

Thanks Harrissou!

I took the liberty to remove the first table (that I created) and to leave
only yours. It is more complete anyway

Cheers

Stéphane


Le mercredi 5 avril 2017, DelazJ  a écrit :

I took the liberty to do some changes to the doc (especially add a new
table with more detailed features on the existing tools + comments). It's
supposed to replace the table already drafted but I didn't go so far
without a review.

2017-04-05 10:36 GMT+02:00 DelazJ :

Hi Stéphane,
actually there's no more UX team (list). UX mailing list has been shut down
months ago because it used to refer to dev list for most of
decisions/advices so UX matters are now discussed either in the dev mailing
list (we maybe can keep this thread) or, I guess until QGIS3 release, in
the qgis3_UIX_discussion repository.


Regards,
Harrissou

2017-04-05 10:19 GMT+02:00 Stéphane Henriod :

Hi all

there have been a few additions in the Gdoc already (not sure from whom)
but I don't know if this is already sufficient for developers to take this
up?

Also, I am not sure how to reach out to the UX team. Through a separate
mailing list? Or is it sufficient to have it here
https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/1 ?

Cheer

Stéphane


Le mardi 4 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod  a écrit :

Thanks Nyall!

Here I just created a Gdoc to collect info mentioned in your points 1-4 + a:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing

All interested, feel free to contribute, I might not have the full overview

Thanks and cheers

Stéphane



“When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make
you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." --
Clifton Fadiman

2017-04-04 13:53 GMT+06:00 Nyall Dawson :

On 4 April 2017 at 17:46, Stéphane Henriod  wrote:
> Thanks a lot Anita for the info!
>
> I re-located the issue: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/9451
>
> Not sure though if this will make it alive again. Let's see if this seems
to
> be a priority for enough users...
>

I'd say a good plan to move this forward would be to:

1. conduct a thorough survey of what's available via the individual
add vector layer dialogs vs what's currently available in the browser
2. rank each of the missing settings vs whether or not they are still
required
3. file issues for these missing settings
4. ...and get these fixed/implemented

a. While this is underway I'd also suggest the UX team could test and
evaluate Anita's plugin to identify whether the browser alone is a
sufficient replacement or whether some tweaks would be required to
make it a suitable replacement without any loss of "user friendliness"

1,2,3 and (a) don't require any development experience, so would be a
great project for any interested user to undertake. I suspect 4
wouldn't be much work for a developer either after all this groundwork
is done.

Nyall




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Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Stéphane Henriod]

Thanks Harrissou!

I took the liberty to remove the first table (that I created) and to leave
only yours. It is more complete anyway

Cheers

Stéphane


Le mercredi 5 avril 2017, DelazJ  a écrit :

> I took the liberty to do some changes to the doc (especially add a new
> table with more detailed features on the existing tools + comments). It's
> supposed to replace the table already drafted but I didn't go so far
> without a review.
>
> 2017-04-05 10:36 GMT+02:00 DelazJ  >:
>
>> Hi Stéphane,
>> actually there's no more UX team (list). UX mailing list has been shut
>> down months ago because it used to refer to dev list for most of
>> decisions/advices so UX matters are now discussed either in the dev mailing
>> list (we maybe can keep this thread) or, I guess until QGIS3 release, in
>> the qgis3_UIX_discussion repository.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Harrissou
>>
>> 2017-04-05 10:19 GMT+02:00 Stéphane Henriod > >:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> there have been a few additions in the Gdoc already (not sure from whom)
>>> but I don't know if this is already sufficient for developers to take this
>>> up?
>>>
>>> Also, I am not sure how to reach out to the UX team. Through a separate
>>> mailing list? Or is it sufficient to have it here
>>> https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/1 ?
>>>
>>> Cheer
>>>
>>> Stéphane
>>>
>>>
>>> Le mardi 4 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod >> > a écrit :
>>>
 Thanks Nyall!

 Here I just created a Gdoc to collect info mentioned in your points 1-4
 + a:

 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRp
 HCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing

 All interested, feel free to contribute, I might not have the full
 overview

 Thanks and cheers

 Stéphane



 “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to
 make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable."
 -- Clifton Fadiman

 2017-04-04 13:53 GMT+06:00 Nyall Dawson :

> On 4 April 2017 at 17:46, Stéphane Henriod 
> wrote:
> > Thanks a lot Anita for the info!
> >
> > I re-located the issue: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/9451
> >
> > Not sure though if this will make it alive again. Let's see if this
> seems to
> > be a priority for enough users...
> >
>
> I'd say a good plan to move this forward would be to:
>
> 1. conduct a thorough survey of what's available via the individual
> add vector layer dialogs vs what's currently available in the browser
> 2. rank each of the missing settings vs whether or not they are still
> required
> 3. file issues for these missing settings
> 4. ...and get these fixed/implemented
>
> a. While this is underway I'd also suggest the UX team could test and
> evaluate Anita's plugin to identify whether the browser alone is a
> sufficient replacement or whether some tweaks would be required to
> make it a suitable replacement without any loss of "user friendliness"
>
> 1,2,3 and (a) don't require any development experience, so would be a
> great project for any interested user to undertake. I suspect 4
> wouldn't be much work for a developer either after all this groundwork
> is done.
>
> Nyall
>


>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to
>>> make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable."
>>> -- Clifton Fadiman
>>>
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[DelazJ]

I took the liberty to do some changes to the doc (especially add a new
table with more detailed features on the existing tools + comments). It's
supposed to replace the table already drafted but I didn't go so far
without a review.

2017-04-05 10:36 GMT+02:00 DelazJ :

> Hi Stéphane,
> actually there's no more UX team (list). UX mailing list has been shut
> down months ago because it used to refer to dev list for most of
> decisions/advices so UX matters are now discussed either in the dev mailing
> list (we maybe can keep this thread) or, I guess until QGIS3 release, in
> the qgis3_UIX_discussion repository.
>
>
> Regards,
> Harrissou
>
> 2017-04-05 10:19 GMT+02:00 Stéphane Henriod :
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> there have been a few additions in the Gdoc already (not sure from whom)
>> but I don't know if this is already sufficient for developers to take this
>> up?
>>
>> Also, I am not sure how to reach out to the UX team. Through a separate
>> mailing list? Or is it sufficient to have it here
>> https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/1 ?
>>
>> Cheer
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>> Le mardi 4 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod  a écrit :
>>
>>> Thanks Nyall!
>>>
>>> Here I just created a Gdoc to collect info mentioned in your points 1-4
>>> + a:
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRp
>>> HCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> All interested, feel free to contribute, I might not have the full
>>> overview
>>>
>>> Thanks and cheers
>>>
>>> Stéphane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to
>>> make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable."
>>> -- Clifton Fadiman
>>>
>>> 2017-04-04 13:53 GMT+06:00 Nyall Dawson :
>>>
 On 4 April 2017 at 17:46, Stéphane Henriod 
 wrote:
 > Thanks a lot Anita for the info!
 >
 > I re-located the issue: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/9451
 >
 > Not sure though if this will make it alive again. Let's see if this
 seems to
 > be a priority for enough users...
 >

 I'd say a good plan to move this forward would be to:

 1. conduct a thorough survey of what's available via the individual
 add vector layer dialogs vs what's currently available in the browser
 2. rank each of the missing settings vs whether or not they are still
 required
 3. file issues for these missing settings
 4. ...and get these fixed/implemented

 a. While this is underway I'd also suggest the UX team could test and
 evaluate Anita's plugin to identify whether the browser alone is a
 sufficient replacement or whether some tweaks would be required to
 make it a suitable replacement without any loss of "user friendliness"

 1,2,3 and (a) don't require any development experience, so would be a
 great project for any interested user to undertake. I suspect 4
 wouldn't be much work for a developer either after all this groundwork
 is done.

 Nyall

>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[DelazJ]

Hi Stéphane,
actually there's no more UX team (list). UX mailing list has been shut down
months ago because it used to refer to dev list for most of
decisions/advices so UX matters are now discussed either in the dev mailing
list (we maybe can keep this thread) or, I guess until QGIS3 release, in
the qgis3_UIX_discussion repository.


Regards,
Harrissou

2017-04-05 10:19 GMT+02:00 Stéphane Henriod :

> Hi all
>
> there have been a few additions in the Gdoc already (not sure from whom)
> but I don't know if this is already sufficient for developers to take this
> up?
>
> Also, I am not sure how to reach out to the UX team. Through a separate
> mailing list? Or is it sufficient to have it here https://github.com/qgis/
> qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/1 ?
>
> Cheer
>
> Stéphane
>
>
> Le mardi 4 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod  a écrit :
>
>> Thanks Nyall!
>>
>> Here I just created a Gdoc to collect info mentioned in your points 1-4 +
>> a:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRp
>> HCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>> All interested, feel free to contribute, I might not have the full
>> overview
>>
>> Thanks and cheers
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>>
>> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make
>> you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." --
>> Clifton Fadiman
>>
>> 2017-04-04 13:53 GMT+06:00 Nyall Dawson :
>>
>>> On 4 April 2017 at 17:46, Stéphane Henriod 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Thanks a lot Anita for the info!
>>> >
>>> > I re-located the issue: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/9451
>>> >
>>> > Not sure though if this will make it alive again. Let's see if this
>>> seems to
>>> > be a priority for enough users...
>>> >
>>>
>>> I'd say a good plan to move this forward would be to:
>>>
>>> 1. conduct a thorough survey of what's available via the individual
>>> add vector layer dialogs vs what's currently available in the browser
>>> 2. rank each of the missing settings vs whether or not they are still
>>> required
>>> 3. file issues for these missing settings
>>> 4. ...and get these fixed/implemented
>>>
>>> a. While this is underway I'd also suggest the UX team could test and
>>> evaluate Anita's plugin to identify whether the browser alone is a
>>> sufficient replacement or whether some tweaks would be required to
>>> make it a suitable replacement without any loss of "user friendliness"
>>>
>>> 1,2,3 and (a) don't require any development experience, so would be a
>>> great project for any interested user to undertake. I suspect 4
>>> wouldn't be much work for a developer either after all this groundwork
>>> is done.
>>>
>>> Nyall
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Stéphane Henriod]

Hi all

there have been a few additions in the Gdoc already (not sure from whom)
but I don't know if this is already sufficient for developers to take this
up?

Also, I am not sure how to reach out to the UX team. Through a separate
mailing list? Or is it sufficient to have it here
https://github.com/qgis/qgis3_UIX_discussion/issues/1 ?

Cheer

Stéphane


Le mardi 4 avril 2017, Stéphane Henriod  a écrit :

> Thanks Nyall!
>
> Here I just created a Gdoc to collect info mentioned in your points 1-4 +
> a:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7U
> J1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing
>
> All interested, feel free to contribute, I might not have the full overview
>
> Thanks and cheers
>
> Stéphane
>
>
>
> “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make
> you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." --
> Clifton Fadiman
>
> 2017-04-04 13:53 GMT+06:00 Nyall Dawson  >:
>
>> On 4 April 2017 at 17:46, Stéphane Henriod > > wrote:
>> > Thanks a lot Anita for the info!
>> >
>> > I re-located the issue: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/9451
>> >
>> > Not sure though if this will make it alive again. Let's see if this
>> seems to
>> > be a priority for enough users...
>> >
>>
>> I'd say a good plan to move this forward would be to:
>>
>> 1. conduct a thorough survey of what's available via the individual
>> add vector layer dialogs vs what's currently available in the browser
>> 2. rank each of the missing settings vs whether or not they are still
>> required
>> 3. file issues for these missing settings
>> 4. ...and get these fixed/implemented
>>
>> a. While this is underway I'd also suggest the UX team could test and
>> evaluate Anita's plugin to identify whether the browser alone is a
>> sufficient replacement or whether some tweaks would be required to
>> make it a suitable replacement without any loss of "user friendliness"
>>
>> 1,2,3 and (a) don't require any development experience, so would be a
>> great project for any interested user to undertake. I suspect 4
>> wouldn't be much work for a developer either after all this groundwork
>> is done.
>>
>> Nyall
>>
>
>

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Stéphane Henriod]

Thanks Nyall!

Here I just created a Gdoc to collect info mentioned in your points 1-4 + a:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aMX9jOfl10q8oETRzOHSHnRpHCc7UJ1dDnCCq3VyTAY/edit?usp=sharing

All interested, feel free to contribute, I might not have the full overview

Thanks and cheers

Stéphane



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you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable." --
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2017-04-04 13:53 GMT+06:00 Nyall Dawson :

> On 4 April 2017 at 17:46, Stéphane Henriod  wrote:
> > Thanks a lot Anita for the info!
> >
> > I re-located the issue: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/9451
> >
> > Not sure though if this will make it alive again. Let's see if this
> seems to
> > be a priority for enough users...
> >
>
> I'd say a good plan to move this forward would be to:
>
> 1. conduct a thorough survey of what's available via the individual
> add vector layer dialogs vs what's currently available in the browser
> 2. rank each of the missing settings vs whether or not they are still
> required
> 3. file issues for these missing settings
> 4. ...and get these fixed/implemented
>
> a. While this is underway I'd also suggest the UX team could test and
> evaluate Anita's plugin to identify whether the browser alone is a
> sufficient replacement or whether some tweaks would be required to
> make it a suitable replacement without any loss of "user friendliness"
>
> 1,2,3 and (a) don't require any development experience, so would be a
> great project for any interested user to undertake. I suspect 4
> wouldn't be much work for a developer either after all this groundwork
> is done.
>
> Nyall
>
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Nyall Dawson]

On 4 April 2017 at 17:46, Stéphane Henriod  wrote:
> Thanks a lot Anita for the info!
>
> I re-located the issue: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/9451
>
> Not sure though if this will make it alive again. Let's see if this seems to
> be a priority for enough users...
>

I'd say a good plan to move this forward would be to:

1. conduct a thorough survey of what's available via the individual
add vector layer dialogs vs what's currently available in the browser
2. rank each of the missing settings vs whether or not they are still required
3. file issues for these missing settings
4. ...and get these fixed/implemented

a. While this is underway I'd also suggest the UX team could test and
evaluate Anita's plugin to identify whether the browser alone is a
sufficient replacement or whether some tweaks would be required to
make it a suitable replacement without any loss of "user friendliness"

1,2,3 and (a) don't require any development experience, so would be a
great project for any interested user to undertake. I suspect 4
wouldn't be much work for a developer either after all this groundwork
is done.

Nyall
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[Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Stéphane Henriod]

Thanks a lot Anita for the info!

I re-located the issue: http://hub.qgis.org/issues/9451

Not sure though if this will make it alive again. Let's see if this seems
to be a priority for enough users...

All the best

Stéphane


Le mardi 4 avril 2017, Anita Graser > a écrit :

> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Stéphane Henriod 
> wrote:
>
>> To go one step further :-) Any reason why it couldn't be polished and
>> directly integrated in the core? As a non-developer, I maybe underestimate
>> the workload here? Isn't it something that could "easily" be done by one of
>> the core developers without requiring substantial additional funding?
>>
>
> ​Mostly, the interested core developers wanted to implement something more
> sophisticated than my hack ... but then they didn't get around to doing it
> ...
>
> I think there is a ticket on Redmine or Github on this issue. Maybe you
> can locate and revive it.
>
> Best wishes,
> Anita​
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Anita Graser]

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Stéphane Henriod 
wrote:

> To go one step further :-) Any reason why it couldn't be polished and
> directly integrated in the core? As a non-developer, I maybe underestimate
> the workload here? Isn't it something that could "easily" be done by one of
> the core developers without requiring substantial additional funding?
>

​Mostly, the interested core developers wanted to implement something more
sophisticated than my hack ... but then they didn't get around to doing it
...

I think there is a ticket on Redmine or Github on this issue. Maybe you can
locate and revive it.

Best wishes,
Anita​
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Stéphane Henriod]

Hi Anita

To go one step further :-) Any reason why it couldn't be polished and
directly integrated in the core? As a non-developer, I maybe underestimate
the workload here? Isn't it something that could "easily" be done by one of
the core developers without requiring substantial additional funding?

I think such unified button would be very helpful, especially for beginners
(who don't intuitively understand yet the difference between vector,
raster, etc.) and I would hate to start a GIS introduction by saying
"First, you'll have to download and install a plugin" :-)

It also would be a good way to catch former ArcGIS users, who grew up used
to such a unified approach.

All the best

Stéphane


Le lundi 3 avril 2017, Anita Graser  a écrit :

>
>
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 10:50 AM, DelazJ  > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Thanks Anita for this work. I wasn't aware of your tool. Any reason to
>> not make it available in the Plugins repo? It might get more audience,
>> unless I overestimate our repo... Btw: I like the title of the blog post.
>> :-)
>>
>
> ​Thanks Harrissou! No good reason why it's not in the rep really. Mostly,
> because it's just 10 lines of code added to a plugin tempalte and requires
> manual GUI customization to remove all the redundant add layer icons.
>
> I'll put it on Github and publish it.
>
> Best wishes,
> Anita
>
>
>
> ​
>


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Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Anita Graser]

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 10:50 AM, DelazJ  wrote:

> Hi,
> Thanks Anita for this work. I wasn't aware of your tool. Any reason to not
> make it available in the Plugins repo? It might get more audience, unless I
> overestimate our repo... Btw: I like the title of the blog post. :-)
>

​Thanks Harrissou! No good reason why it's not in the rep really. Mostly,
because it's just 10 lines of code added to a plugin tempalte and requires
manual GUI customization to remove all the redundant add layer icons.

I'll put it on Github and publish it.

Best wishes,
Anita



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Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[DelazJ]

Hi,
Thanks Anita for this work. I wasn't aware of your tool. Any reason to not
make it available in the Plugins repo? It might get more audience, unless I
overestimate our repo... Btw: I like the title of the blog post. :-)

So other than Anita's plugin, there's currently no ongoing work to unify
the tools.
>From a doc writer's perspective, it's ok; we'll see how we structure the
chapter.
>From a user's one, would be nice to have things moved in the way of a
unified tool in the next releases. Landing in 3.0 could even sound like a
big change between 2.x series and 3.0. Maybe, taking Anita's work as a
first step and 

Regards,
Harrissou


2017-04-03 6:05 GMT+02:00 Stéphane Henriod :

> Hi all
>
> I must say that Anita's hack seems quite handy and straight forward from a
> user's perspective. Would it be heavy to "just" integrate into the Master
> QGIS? I would be happy to help with testing. More, I unfortunately cannot
> do :-)
>
> Cheers
>
> Stéphane
>
>
>
> Le lundi 3 avril 2017, Tim Sutton  a écrit :
>
>> Hi Anita
>>
>> On 02 Apr 2017, at 10:21 PM, Anita Graser  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Tim Sutton  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Harrisou
>>>
>>> On 02 Apr 2017, at 4:57 PM, DelazJ  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi devs,
>>>
>>> In the documentation team, we plan to rewrite the "Supported data
>>> formats" chapter (http://docs.qgis.org/2.14/en/
>>> docs/user_manual/working_with_vector/supported_data.html) which
>>> actually explores many of the different ways to add (vector) layers to
>>> QGIS. It's full of redundant information, not easy to maintain and doesn't
>>> expose tools like the browser panel. Discussion at
>>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/1088
>>>  if you want
>>> to help.
>>> Before we engage any time on this restructuring and to avoid doing
>>> things twice and because I read some related assertions in the past, I'd
>>> like to ask if there's any plan to merge some of these tools for 3.0... And
>>> if ever, what's the state of the work ?
>>>
>>>
>>> This has been discussed a number of times, and Nathan made some initial
>>> mockups once. But as far as I know, nobody is actively working on this so I
>>> don't know if anything will land in 3.0.
>>>
>>
>> ​I've been working with my "unified add layer button" modification for a
>> few months now: https://anitagraser.com/2016/07/20/one-add-button-to-ru
>> le-them-all/​
>>
>> Wouldn't want to go back. I still sometimes use the Add PostGIS layer
>> dialog from the menus though.
>>
>>
>> Ah thanks I forgot about your post Anita!
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Anita
>>
>>
>> —
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Tim Sutton*
>>
>> *Co-founder:* Kartoza
>> *Project chair:* QGIS.org
>>
>> Visit http://kartoza.com to find out about open source:
>>
>> Desktop GIS programming services
>> Geospatial web development
>> GIS Training
>> Consulting Services
>>
>> *Skype*: timlinux
>> *IRC:* timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net
>>
>> Kartoza is a merger between Linfiniti and Afrispatial
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Stéphane Henriod]

Hi all

I must say that Anita's hack seems quite handy and straight forward from a
user's perspective. Would it be heavy to "just" integrate into the Master
QGIS? I would be happy to help with testing. More, I unfortunately cannot
do :-)

Cheers

Stéphane



Le lundi 3 avril 2017, Tim Sutton  a écrit :

> Hi Anita
>
> On 02 Apr 2017, at 10:21 PM, Anita Graser  > wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Tim Sutton  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Harrisou
>>
>> On 02 Apr 2017, at 4:57 PM, DelazJ > > wrote:
>>
>> Hi devs,
>>
>> In the documentation team, we plan to rewrite the "Supported data
>> formats" chapter (http://docs.qgis.org/2.14/en/
>> docs/user_manual/working_with_vector/supported_data.html) which actually
>> explores many of the different ways to add (vector) layers to QGIS. It's
>> full of redundant information, not easy to maintain and doesn't expose
>> tools like the browser panel. Discussion at https://github.com/qgis/QGI
>> S-Documentation/issues/1088
>>  if you want to
>> help.
>> Before we engage any time on this restructuring and to avoid doing things
>> twice and because I read some related assertions in the past, I'd like to
>> ask if there's any plan to merge some of these tools for 3.0... And if
>> ever, what's the state of the work ?
>>
>>
>> This has been discussed a number of times, and Nathan made some initial
>> mockups once. But as far as I know, nobody is actively working on this so I
>> don't know if anything will land in 3.0.
>>
>
> ​I've been working with my "unified add layer button" modification for a
> few months now: https://anitagraser.com/2016/07/20/one-add-button-to-
> rule-them-all/​
>
> Wouldn't want to go back. I still sometimes use the Add PostGIS layer
> dialog from the menus though.
>
>
> Ah thanks I forgot about your post Anita!
>
> Regards
>
> Tim
>
>
> Best wishes,
> Anita
>
>
> —
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tim Sutton*
>
> *Co-founder:* Kartoza
> *Project chair:* QGIS.org
>
> Visit http://kartoza.com to find out about open source:
>
> Desktop GIS programming services
> Geospatial web development
> GIS Training
> Consulting Services
>
> *Skype*: timlinux
> *IRC:* timlinux on #qgis at freenode.net
>
> Kartoza is a merger between Linfiniti and Afrispatial
>
>

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Tim Sutton]

Hi Anita

> On 02 Apr 2017, at 10:21 PM, Anita Graser  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Tim Sutton  > wrote:
> Hi Harrisou
> 
>> On 02 Apr 2017, at 4:57 PM, DelazJ > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi devs,
>> 
>> In the documentation team, we plan to rewrite the "Supported data formats" 
>> chapter 
>> (http://docs.qgis.org/2.14/en/docs/user_manual/working_with_vector/supported_data.html
>>  
>> )
>>  which actually explores many of the different ways to add (vector) layers 
>> to QGIS. It's full of redundant information, not easy to maintain and 
>> doesn't expose tools like the browser panel. Discussion at 
>> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/1088 
>>  if you want to 
>> help.
>> Before we engage any time on this restructuring and to avoid doing things 
>> twice and because I read some related assertions in the past, I'd like to 
>> ask if there's any plan to merge some of these tools for 3.0... And if ever, 
>> what's the state of the work ?
> 
> This has been discussed a number of times, and Nathan made some initial 
> mockups once. But as far as I know, nobody is actively working on this so I 
> don't know if anything will land in 3.0. 
> 
> ​I've been working with my "unified add layer button" modification for a few 
> months now: 
> https://anitagraser.com/2016/07/20/one-add-button-to-rule-them-all/ 
> ​
> 
> Wouldn't want to go back. I still sometimes use the Add PostGIS layer dialog 
> from the menus though. 

Ah thanks I forgot about your post Anita!

Regards

Tim

> 
> Best wishes,
> Anita

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Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Anita Graser]

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 9:32 PM, Tim Sutton  wrote:

> Hi Harrisou
>
> On 02 Apr 2017, at 4:57 PM, DelazJ  wrote:
>
> Hi devs,
>
> In the documentation team, we plan to rewrite the "Supported data formats"
> chapter (http://docs.qgis.org/2.14/en/docs/user_manual/working_with_
> vector/supported_data.html) which actually explores many of the different
> ways to add (vector) layers to QGIS. It's full of redundant information,
> not easy to maintain and doesn't expose tools like the browser panel.
> Discussion at https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/1088
>  if you want to
> help.
> Before we engage any time on this restructuring and to avoid doing things
> twice and because I read some related assertions in the past, I'd like to
> ask if there's any plan to merge some of these tools for 3.0... And if
> ever, what's the state of the work ?
>
>
> This has been discussed a number of times, and Nathan made some initial
> mockups once. But as far as I know, nobody is actively working on this so I
> don't know if anything will land in 3.0.
>

​I've been working with my "unified add layer button" modification for a
few months now:
https://anitagraser.com/2016/07/20/one-add-button-to-rule-them-all/​

Wouldn't want to go back. I still sometimes use the Add PostGIS layer
dialog from the menus though.

Best wishes,
Anita
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Re: [Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[Tim Sutton]

Hi Harrisou

> On 02 Apr 2017, at 4:57 PM, DelazJ  wrote:
> 
> Hi devs,
> 
> In the documentation team, we plan to rewrite the "Supported data formats" 
> chapter 
> (http://docs.qgis.org/2.14/en/docs/user_manual/working_with_vector/supported_data.html
>  
> )
>  which actually explores many of the different ways to add (vector) layers to 
> QGIS. It's full of redundant information, not easy to maintain and doesn't 
> expose tools like the browser panel. Discussion at 
> https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/1088 
>  if you want to help.
> Before we engage any time on this restructuring and to avoid doing things 
> twice and because I read some related assertions in the past, I'd like to ask 
> if there's any plan to merge some of these tools for 3.0... And if ever, 
> what's the state of the work ?

This has been discussed a number of times, and Nathan made some initial mockups 
once. But as far as I know, nobody is actively working on this so I don't know 
if anything will land in 3.0. 

One suggestion would be to focus the bulk of the documentation on showing how 
to use the browser panel and then save the dialogs for special cases (e.g. 
using OGR::Protocol etc.). My rationale for this is that I suspect that any 
unified add vector dialog in the future would use the browser widget as its 
basis. Also in my experience many users miss the fact that the browser panel 
exists so it would be good to make it more 'front and center'.

Thank you and the rest of the docs team for all the hard work you are doing!

Regards

Tim


> 
> Thanks for any information,
> Harrissou
> 
> 
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[Qgis-developer] Are there plans to create a unique "Add layer" tool?

[DelazJ]

 Hi devs,

In the documentation team, we plan to rewrite the "Supported data formats"
chapter (http://docs.qgis.org/2.14/en/docs/user_manual/working_with_
vector/supported_data.html) which actually explores many of the different
ways to add (vector) layers to QGIS. It's full of redundant information,
not easy to maintain and doesn't expose tools like the browser panel.
Discussion at https://github.com/qgis/QGIS-Documentation/issues/1088
 if you want to
help.
Before we engage any time on this restructuring and to avoid doing things
twice and because I read some related assertions in the past, I'd like to
ask if there's any plan to merge some of these tools for 3.0... And if
ever, what's the state of the work ?

Thanks for any information,
Harrissou
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