Re: [Qgis-user] Help requested - Understanding how to use GQIS to realize Unreal Engine project

[Emma Hain via QGIS-User]

Hey Bango
Would using Cesium help at all? There is some functionality already in QGIS
for it and additional functionality is currently being developed for it.
https://www.lutraconsulting.co.uk/blog/2023/11/16/3d-tiles-in-QGIS/

https://north-road.com/2023/11/07/qgis-3d-tiles-thanks-to-cesium-ecosystem-grant/

Cheers
Em




On Sat, 27 Jul 2024 at 23:17, Bango via QGIS-User 
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm a new member of this mailing list, a total QGIS beginner and I've some
> issues understanding how to use QGIS to be able to realize a project.
> In this regard I hope and I would appreciate it if you can help me out.
>
> What do I want to achieve?
>
> For this particular project I want to create a 3D map based on real world
> locations within Unreal Engine 5 (UE).
>
> In this regard I was able to collect a set of tiff files which contain the
> height information I was looking for to use them as tiled heightmaps to
> build up the entire 3D map.
>
> Unfortunately, UE isn't capable of reading tiff files, so I would have to
> convert the files to a format like raw or png.
>
> Another issue is the tiff files contain latitude and longitude coordinates
> (especially in their name), based on WGS84, which I guess would help to
> arrange the tiles properly in software like QGIS, but UE isn't capable of
> reading those coordinates and renaming the files manually can be very
> tedious since they won't be displayed in the required order on Windows 11.
>
> Anyways, since QGIS may can help me to get more real world related data
> and info which I could use for my project, I probably won't get around
> having to understand and use QGIS, but QGIS seems to have a very steep
> learning curve and without your help I'll probably have to spend a lot more
> of time trying to figure out if and how to get the results I need because
> from my perspective the user interface and usability aren't very "beginner
> friendly" and I haven't yet found any videos or articles about what I am
> trying to accomplish nor isn't the documentation very helpful to me as I
> don't understand what I've to look for regarding terms, features and
> workflows.
>
> Considering this, I thought, it might be more efficient to ask here for
> help to understand if and how QGIS can help me to get the following desired
> results:
>
> 1. I want to be able to export the tiff files in raw format and the files
> should also contain a suffix in their name based on the xy coordinate
> system considering the desired order e.g. tile_x1_y1, tile_x1_y2,
> tile_x2_y1, etc. (preferably editable/exportable in a batch).
>
> 2. I want to be able to export more collected data (e.g. satellite images)
> based on the number of tiles - for example: I want to export a
> satellite image for each tile - and I want to be able define the desired
> export resolution (also preferably in a batch).
>
> Let me know if you need more request related info.
>
> Thanks in advance for all the help and replies!
>
> Best,
> Bango
>
>
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[Qgis-user] Help requested - Understanding how to use GQIS to realize Unreal Engine project

[Bango via QGIS-User]

Hi everyone,

I'm a new member of this mailing list, a total QGIS beginner and I've some
issues understanding how to use QGIS to be able to realize a project.
In this regard I hope and I would appreciate it if you can help me out.

What do I want to achieve?

For this particular project I want to create a 3D map based on real world
locations within Unreal Engine 5 (UE).

In this regard I was able to collect a set of tiff files which contain the
height information I was looking for to use them as tiled heightmaps to
build up the entire 3D map.

Unfortunately, UE isn't capable of reading tiff files, so I would have to
convert the files to a format like raw or png.

Another issue is the tiff files contain latitude and longitude coordinates
(especially in their name), based on WGS84, which I guess would help to
arrange the tiles properly in software like QGIS, but UE isn't capable of
reading those coordinates and renaming the files manually can be very
tedious since they won't be displayed in the required order on Windows 11.

Anyways, since QGIS may can help me to get more real world related data and
info which I could use for my project, I probably won't get around having
to understand and use QGIS, but QGIS seems to have a very steep learning
curve and without your help I'll probably have to spend a lot more of time
trying to figure out if and how to get the results I need because from my
perspective the user interface and usability aren't very "beginner
friendly" and I haven't yet found any videos or articles about what I am
trying to accomplish nor isn't the documentation very helpful to me as I
don't understand what I've to look for regarding terms, features and
workflows.

Considering this, I thought, it might be more efficient to ask here for
help to understand if and how QGIS can help me to get the following desired
results:

1. I want to be able to export the tiff files in raw format and the files
should also contain a suffix in their name based on the xy coordinate
system considering the desired order e.g. tile_x1_y1, tile_x1_y2,
tile_x2_y1, etc. (preferably editable/exportable in a batch).

2. I want to be able to export more collected data (e.g. satellite images)
based on the number of tiles - for example: I want to export a
satellite image for each tile - and I want to be able define the desired
export resolution (also preferably in a batch).

Let me know if you need more request related info.

Thanks in advance for all the help and replies!

Best,
Bango
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[Qgis-user] Help reading mesh layer from Postgresql

[Jorge Gustavo Rocha via QGIS-User]

Hi,

I would love to store netCDF files in Postgresql/PostGIS and read them 
as mesh layers.


I'm able to store netCDF in PostGIS and add it as a rasters in QGIS.

To store it on PostGIS:

raster2pgsql -s 4326 -d -I -C -M AZ1_HS_2023101200.nc -F 
public.az1_hs_2023101200 | psql service=atlantico


Check if it is ok:

gdalinfo "PG:service=atlantico schema='public' table=az1_hs_2023101200"

Load it in QGIS (as raster):

uri_config = {
    'service':'atlantico',
    'schema':'public',
    'table':'az1_hs_2023101200',
    'geometrycolumn':'rast'
}
md = QgsProviderRegistry.instance().providerMetadata('postgresraster')
uri = QgsDataSourceUri(md.encodeUri(uri_config))
rlayer = iface.addRasterLayer(uri.uri(False), "az1_hs_2023101200", 
"postgresraster")


I would like to load it as a mesh layer.

Loading a mesh from file works as expected.

mesh_layer_path: str = "/tmp/AZ1_HS_2023101200.nc"
mesh_layer = QgsMeshLayer(mesh_layer_path, "layer_name", "mdal")
if not mesh_layer.isValid():
    print("Layer failed to load!")
else:
    QgsProject.instance().addMapLayer(mesh_layer)

Is it possible to load it from PostGIS as a mesh? Should it be stored in 
another format?


I've tried this:

uri_config = {
    'service':'atlantico',
    'schema':'public',
    'table':'az1_hs_2023101200',
    'geometrycolumn':'rast'
}
md = QgsProviderRegistry.instance().providerMetadata('postgresraster')
uri = QgsDataSourceUri(md.encodeUri(uri_config))
mesh_layer = QgsMeshLayer(uri.uri(False), "layer_name", "mdal")
if not mesh_layer.isValid():
    print("Layer failed to load!")
else:
    QgsProject.instance().addMapLayer(mesh_layer)

Regards,

Jorge Gustavo




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Re: [Qgis-user] help with lost meta search engine list

[Richard Duivenvoorde via QGIS-User]

On 3/9/24 7:42 PM, Jeff L Licht via QGIS-User wrote:

Things were going along swimmingly until I opened QGIS today and my list of 
search engines under Web-meta search was gone. Is there a 'switch' which turned 
this off? Is it possible to delete this list unknowingly? Can anyone help me 
even its instructions as to build this list back from scratch.


See 
https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/python/plugins/MetaSearch/dialogs/manageconnectionsdialog.py#L99
MetaSearch saves the connections in the 'MetaSearch' node in QGIS.ini

You can either edit the .ini file, or you can view it via Options/Advanced (and 
do NOT use the 'new settings tree widget').
See screenshot.

Not sure how this could vanish.
Maybe you create a new profile?
Or did that QGIS.ini file got corrupt (not very likely)?

(to check: create a new/fresh profile and use the 'Add default services' to 
have that list, and then look into the settings.

Regards,

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[Qgis-user] help with lost meta search engine list

[Jeff L Licht via QGIS-User]

Things were going along swimmingly until I opened QGIS today and my list of 
search engines under Web-meta search was gone. Is there a 'switch' which turned 
this off? Is it possible to delete this list unknowingly? Can anyone help me 
even its instructions as to build this list back from scratch.

Jeff Licht
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help with building from source

[Adam Nielsen via QGIS-User]

> I am also having problems building QGIS. Actually it built but the 
> gui/menu/display is messed up.  Some of the items in the windows are 
> missing.  Not all my projects are shown.

I think that'll happen if you don't have all the libraries installed
when you compile.  If it can't find them it will just compile without
those features.

Depending on your OS you may have to install "development" versions of
the packages in order to get the additional source code files
("headers") that are needed for source compilations to work.  Or if
that's not an option, you may have to compile and install those from
source first before you start with QGIS.

When following the instructions at the start for configuring the build
you should be able to see which libraries it has picked up, so you at
least know which ones you still need to work on.

Compiling a large project like QGIS from source isn't for the faint of
heart.  I've been compiling code personally and professionally for many
years and it still took me a while to figure it out and get it working.

Unless you plan on changing the code and submitting a patch as I was, I
definitely recommend sticking to the usual downloads as getting those
working is considerably easier than getting a fully functional source
build.

Cheers,
Adam.
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help with building from source

[Don Harter via QGIS-User]

I am also having problems building QGIS. Actually it built but the 
gui/menu/display is messed up.  Some of the items in the windows are 
missing.  Not all my projects are shown.




On 2/22/24 8:24 PM, Tony Bazeley via QGIS-User wrote:


I'm trying to build qgis from source, due to problems with both 
binaries & flatpack on the latest KDE Neon version


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Re: [Qgis-user] Help with building from source

[Adam Nielsen via QGIS-User]

> All works well until part way through, when I get an error:
> 
> [ 63%] Built target provider_postgres_a
> [ 63%] Built target qgis_gui_autogen
> make: *** [Makefile:166: all] Error 2
> 
> I can't see a log file anywhere.

It looks like it's a parallel build and the error happened earlier so
it's not visible in your output.  You can try disabling the parallel
build (used to be "make -j1" but I forget if that works here) which
should at least make the errors appear at the end of the output so you
can more easily locate them.

Cheers,
Adam.
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[Qgis-user] Help with building from source

[Tony Bazeley via QGIS-User]

I'm trying to build qgis from source, due to problems with both binaries & 
flatpack on the 
latest KDE Neon version


It's certainly new territory for me and I've followed the procedure at 
https://github.com/
qgis/QGIS/blob/master/INSTALL.md[1] and am using a fresh KDE Neon install:

Distributor ID: Neon 
Description:KDE neon 5.27 
Release:22.04 
Codename:   jammy


All works well until part way through, when I get an error:


[ 63%] Built target provider_postgresraster
[ 63%] Building CXX object 
src/providers/postgres/CMakeFiles/provider_postgres_a.dir/
qgspostgresexpressioncompiler.cpp.o
[ 63%] Building CXX object 
src/providers/postgres/CMakeFiles/provider_postgres_a.dir/
qgspostgreslistener.cpp.o
[ 63%] Building CXX object 
src/providers/postgres/CMakeFiles/provider_postgres_a.dir/
qgspostgresproviderconnection.cpp.o
[ 63%] Building CXX object 
src/providers/postgres/CMakeFiles/provider_postgres_a.dir/
qgspostgreslayermetadataprovider.cpp.o
[ 63%] Building CXX object 
src/providers/postgres/CMakeFiles/provider_postgres_a.dir/
qgspostgresprovidermetadatautils.cpp.o
[ 63%] Linking CXX static library libprovider_postgres_a.a
[ 63%] Built target provider_postgres_a
[ 63%] Built target qgis_gui_autogen
make: *** [Makefile:166: all] Error 2


I can't see a log file anywhere.
Any ideas on how to proceed would be most appreciated


TIA
Tony




[1] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/blob/master/INSTALL.md
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help - Fix Geometries Required GEOS 3.10

[Andrea Giudiceandrea via QGIS-User]

Mars Sjoden marsofearth at gmail.com
Fri Jan 12 11:53:20 PST 2024



QGIS version: 3.28.14-Firenze
GEOS version: 3.9.1-CAPI-1.14.2



*Algorithm 'Fix geometries' starting…*



The structured method to make geometries valid requires a QGIS build based
on GEOS 3.10 or later


Hi Mars Sjoden,
as explained in the "Fix geometries" processing algorithm's help page 
[1], a QGIS version built with the GEOS library version 3.10 or later is 
required in order to use the "Structure" repair method.


Since your QGIS build uses a GEOS 3.9 version, you can obviously only 
use the "Linework" repair method. So you need to select the "Linework" 
method for the "Repair method" parameter in the processing algorithm 
dialog window.


Alternatively, you can install and use a QGIS version build with a more 
recent GEOS version as instructed in the Download page of the QGIS 
website [2][3].
This way you can use both the "Linework" and the "Structure" repair 
methods with the "Fix geometries" processing algorithm.


Best regards.

Andrea


[1] 
https://docs.qgis.org/3.28/en/docs/user_manual/processing_algs/qgis/vectorgeometry.html#fix-geometries

[2] https://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/download.html#mac
[3] https://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/alldownloads.html#macports
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[Qgis-user] Help - Fix Geometries Required GEOS 3.10

[Mars Sjoden via QGIS-User]

Mac OS Monteray 12.6.5 on Intel iMac

QGIS version: 3.28.14-Firenze

QGIS code revision: b09131c5125

Qt version: 5.15.2

Python version: 3.9.5

GDAL version: 3.3.2

GEOS version: 3.9.1-CAPI-1.14.2

PROJ version: Rel. 8.1.1, September 1st, 2021

PDAL version: 2.3.0 (git-version: Release)

Algorithm started at: 2024-01-12T11:46:47

*Algorithm 'Fix geometries' starting…*

Input parameters:

{ 'INPUT' : 'memory://MultiPolygon?crs=EPSG:3005*>truncated<*, 'METHOD' :
1, 'OUTPUT' : 'TEMPORARY_OUTPUT' }


The structured method to make geometries valid requires a QGIS build based
on GEOS 3.10 or later

Execution failed after 0.04 seconds


This is from the official QGIS download LTR.
https://qgis.org/downloads/macos/qgis-macos-ltr.dmg

How can a lay person fix this?

Thank you!

M
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help

[Andrea Giudiceandrea via QGIS-User]

Oisin Canney oisin.canney at greenloaning.com.au
Wed Jan 10 20:36:37 PST 2024



Please refer to the word document as to what I'm having trouble with, I just 
want to separate the PCT layer into their own separate polygons.


Hi Oisin Canney,
it would be useful to describe the issue directly in the body of the 
message.


Best regards.

Andrea
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help

[Nigel Berjak via QGIS-User]

Hi Osh

Please clarify. Do you have a multipart vector and you are wanting to 
split them into single-parts, or are you wanting to split the PCT 
polygons into separate vector files by an attribute? Or something 
different?


Please consider the environment before printing this email.

On 2024-01-11 06:36, Oisin Canney via QGIS-User wrote:


Hi community,

Just wondering if anyone can help me.

Please refer to the word document as to what I'm having trouble with, I 
just want to separate the PCT layer into their own separate polygons.


I've also included the files I am using to try and create this map.

Hope to hear from you soon,

Osh
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help shapefile

[Kobben, Barend (UT-ITC) via QGIS-User]

He Ida,

That is usually because you have no permission ;-)

What I mean is that the default location that QGIS tries to save it is a place 
where you are not allowed to save anything. Eg. on MacOSX that is in the System 
folders, probably Win and Linux have similar settings. The solution is to press 
the little button with “...” next to the File Name box and choose another 
directory to save your file.

[cid:image001.png@01D9E977.7B387D60]

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On 17/09/2023, 13:54, "QGIS-User"  wrote:

Good morning,
I am having trouble creating a new shapefile on a qgis project... when I try to 
do it it says "permission denied" but it doesn't give me a reason, therefore I 
don't know what to do differently...
Could you help me?
Sincerely,
Ida Ceccarelli
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[Qgis-user] Help shapefile

[ida.uska--- via QGIS-User]

Good morning,
I am having trouble creating a new shapefile on a qgis project... when I try to 
do it it says "permission denied" but it doesn't give me a reason, therefore I 
don't know what to do differently...
Could you help me?
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Re: [Qgis-user] help

[Jérémy Garniaux via Qgis-user]

Hi Stefania,


Le 05/09/2022 à 19:27, dott.ssa agr. Stefania Pace via Qgis-user a écrit :


How can I open map.json file in qgis?
dowloaded from website



You can try to drag and drop the file inside QGIS. If it's a proper 
GeoJSON(a JSON file specifically encoding geographic data), the 
geometries should show up in the map window.


Also, you might want to change your password on lists.osgeo.org. It was 
displayed in the email you sent and the list is read by quite a lot of 
people.


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[Qgis-user] help

[dott.ssa agr. Stefania Pace via Qgis-user]

How can I open map.json file in qgis?
dowloaded from website


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Re: [Qgis-user] help with shortest-path/network analysis (multiple origins to multiple destinations)

[Francesca Parente via Qgis-user]

Thank you Ujaval,

I'll try this as well. Would you suggest to run it like a batch process on
all origin-destination pairs, as the one suggested at point 22 of the
tutorial?

Thanks a lot again and have a good weekend!
Francesca


Il giorno ven 6 mag 2022 alle ore 16:47 Ujaval Gandhi <
uja...@spatialthoughts.com> ha scritto:

> You need to do Distance Matrix. See
> https://www.qgistutorials.com/en/docs/3/origin_destination_matrix.html
>
> On Fri, 6 May 2022 at 7:33 PM, Francesca Parente via Qgis-user <
> qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much indeed Nicolas, for your inputs and all the suggested
>> materials!
>> I have 50 targets and 532 origins. My goal is to define where is best to
>> go within the 50 destinations for each starting point - given the actual
>> range of choices though, so I'm not sure that running a batch one-to-many
>> would take into account all the variables properly as a many-to-many would
>> do. In the absence of a specific modelling, also some second best could
>> work.
>>
>> I understand that your upstream-downstream-Dijkstra script is suitable
>> for layer-to-layer indeed and I'm trying to run it, but at the >>> import
>> geopandas as gpd<< line I got the following error message:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Traceback (most recent call last):  File
>> "C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python37\lib\code.py", line 90, in runcodeexec(code,
>> self.locals)  File "", line 1, in   File
>> "C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python\qgis\utils.py", line 799, in _importmod
>> = _builtin_import(name, globals, locals, fromlist, level)*
>> *ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'geopandas'*
>>
>> I've been following your tutorial, but I admit I'm not quite familiar
>> with py. I've gone through the remaining import coding and it seems
>> working, but I'm not sure the "geopandas" module is needed or not to
>> properly complete the script.
>>
>> Thanks again!!
>> Best,
>> Francesca
>>
>> Il giorno gio 5 mag 2022 alle ore 22:28 Nicolas Cadieux <
>> njacadieux.git...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> How many shortest path calculations are you looking at? You could
>>> probably do a all pairs shortest path dijkstra and filter the results.  You
>>> could batch multiple one to many (point to layers)  In QGIS using the
>>> processing plug-in.
>>>
>>> I did create an algorithm using networkX that could be modified to work
>>> with two input layers.  This could be useful if QGIS is not fast enough or
>>> if you have too many routes to calculate.  You will find it in the links
>>> below. Keep in mind this algorithm was for rivers therefore you have no
>>> trafic rules.  This would need more work.
>>>
>>> You will also find an article we wrote in Data that may help.  If you
>>> have trouble with the network, look in the QGIS hub for the models. Look
>>> for the 3 “fix directional networks models”.
>>>
>>> I added a few YouTube videos I made.
>>>
>>> https://gitlab.com/njacadieux/upstream_downstream_shortests_path_dijkstra
>>>   
>>>
>>> https://www.mdpi.com/2306-5729/5/1/8
>>>
>>> https://plugins.qgis.org/models/
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/v61PafSByvM
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/qQrHcKtmr3o
>>>
>>>
>>> Nicolas Cadieux
>>> https://gitlab.com/njacadieux
>>>
>>> Le 5 mai 2022 à 10:38, Francesca Parente via Qgis-user <
>>> qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org> a écrit :
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I'd need to identify optimal destinations (within a point layer of
>>> geolocated facilities) for each territory of a given set of possible
>>> origins.
>>> I already calculated a distance matrix between the two point-layers, and
>>> also applied the distance-to-nearest-hub tool to generate a string layer
>>> and identify the optimal facilities.
>>> But I'd like to obtain a more realistic estimate, accounting for the
>>> roads network (and ideally their travel times). With quite a few issues, I
>>> finally managed to import an OSM road network from download.geofabrik.de
>>> (in order to cover my area of interest, I had to merge two different
>>> vectors fo Center and Southern Italy and then extract a focus spot in
>>> between the two and save it as a lighter layer, otherwise it also took an
>>> eternity to run every analysis).
>>>
>>> So now my question would be: is there a tool to perform a layer-to-layer
>>> shortest-path analysis that takes it into account?
>>> All that I could find was either point-to-point or
>>> layer-to-point/point-to-layer (I looked also at built-in network analysis
>>> tool and Qneat3 plugin).
>>>
>>> Any kind of inputs and suggestions will be more than welcome!
>>> Thanks a lot for your support and have a good day,
>>> Francesca
>>>
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Francesca Parente
>>>
>>> _ SESS Euro PhD
>>>  in
>>> SocioEconomic and Statistical Studies
>>> _ Luiss SEP  School of European Political Economy
>>>
>>>
>>> email: francescaparente@gmail.co

Re: [Qgis-user] help with shortest-path/network analysis (multiple origins to multiple destinations)

[Nicolas Cadieux via Qgis-user]

Hi,

I think the best way is too install Python with Anaconda.  Then, you 
will need to  install geopandas, networkX and possibly pandas and 
shapely libraries.  I am not sure it it's a good idea to add these in 
the Qgis Python distribution.


My algorithm currently uses 1 line input file and 1 point input file. It 
would need to be modified to work with 2 point input files.


Nicolas

On 2022-05-06 10:02 a.m., Francesca Parente wrote:
Thank you very much indeed Nicolas, for your inputs and all the 
suggested materials!
I have 50 targets and 532 origins. My goal is to define where is best 
to go within the 50 destinations for each starting point - given the 
actual range of choices though, so I'm not sure that running a batch 
one-to-many would take into account all the variables properly as a 
many-to-many would do. In the absence of a specific modelling, also 
some second best could work.


I understand that your upstream-downstream-Dijkstra script is suitable 
for layer-to-layer indeed and I'm trying to run it, but at the >>> 
import geopandas as gpd<< line I got the following error message:


/Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python37\lib\code.py", line 90, in runcode
    exec(code, self.locals)
  File "", line 1, in 
  File "C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python\qgis\utils.py", line 799, in 
_import

    mod = _builtin_import(name, globals, locals, fromlist, level)
/
/ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'geopandas'/
I've been following your tutorial, but I admit I'm not quite familiar 
with py. I've gone through the remaining import coding and it seems 
working, but I'm not sure the "geopandas" module is needed or not to 
properly complete the script.


Thanks again!!
Best,
Francesca

Il giorno gio 5 mag 2022 alle ore 22:28 Nicolas Cadieux 
 ha scritto:


Hi,

How many shortest path calculations are you looking at? You could
probably do a all pairs shortest path dijkstra and filter the
results.  You could batch multiple one to many (point to layers)
 In QGIS using the processing plug-in.

I did create an algorithm using networkX that could be modified to
work with two input layers.  This could be useful if QGIS is not
fast enough or if you have too many routes to calculate.  You will
find it in the links below. Keep in mind this algorithm was for
rivers therefore you have no trafic rules.  This would need more work.

You will also find an article we wrote in Data that may help.  If
you have trouble with the network, look in the QGIS hub for the
models. Look for the 3 “fix directional networks models”.

I added a few YouTube videos I made.


https://gitlab.com/njacadieux/upstream_downstream_shortests_path_dijkstra

https://www.mdpi.com/2306-5729/5/1/8

https://plugins.qgis.org/models/

https://youtu.be/v61PafSByvM

https://youtu.be/qQrHcKtmr3o


Nicolas Cadieux
https://gitlab.com/njacadieux


Le 5 mai 2022 à 10:38, Francesca Parente via Qgis-user
 a écrit :


Hello everyone,

I'd need to identify optimal destinations (within a point layer
of geolocated facilities) for each territory of a given set of
possible origins.
I already calculated a distance matrix between the two
point-layers, and also applied the distance-to-nearest-hub tool
to generate a string layer and identify the optimal facilities.
But I'd like to obtain a more realistic estimate, accounting for
the roads network (and ideally their travel times). With quite a
few issues, I finally managed to import an OSM road network from
download.geofabrik.de  (in order to
cover my area of interest, I had to merge two different vectors
fo Center and Southern Italy and then extract a focus spot in
between the two and save it as a lighter layer, otherwise it also
took an eternity to run every analysis).

So now my question would be: is there a tool to perform a
layer-to-layer shortest-path analysis that takes it into account?
All that I could find was either point-to-point or
layer-to-point/point-to-layer (I looked also at built-in network
analysis tool and Qneat3 plugin).

Any kind of inputs and suggestions will be more than welcome!
Thanks a lot for your support and have a good day,
Francesca

-- 


Francesca Parente

_ SESS Euro PhD

in SocioEconomic and Statistical Studies
_ Luiss SEP  School of European Political
Economy


email: francescaparente@gmail.com
paren...@luiss.it

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Re: [Qgis-user] help with shortest-path/network analysis (multiple origins to multiple destinations)

[Ujaval Gandhi via Qgis-user]

You need to do Distance Matrix. See
https://www.qgistutorials.com/en/docs/3/origin_destination_matrix.html

On Fri, 6 May 2022 at 7:33 PM, Francesca Parente via Qgis-user <
qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> Thank you very much indeed Nicolas, for your inputs and all the suggested
> materials!
> I have 50 targets and 532 origins. My goal is to define where is best to
> go within the 50 destinations for each starting point - given the actual
> range of choices though, so I'm not sure that running a batch one-to-many
> would take into account all the variables properly as a many-to-many would
> do. In the absence of a specific modelling, also some second best could
> work.
>
> I understand that your upstream-downstream-Dijkstra script is suitable for
> layer-to-layer indeed and I'm trying to run it, but at the >>> import
> geopandas as gpd<< line I got the following error message:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Traceback (most recent call last):  File
> "C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python37\lib\code.py", line 90, in runcodeexec(code,
> self.locals)  File "", line 1, in   File
> "C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python\qgis\utils.py", line 799, in _importmod
> = _builtin_import(name, globals, locals, fromlist, level)*
> *ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'geopandas'*
>
> I've been following your tutorial, but I admit I'm not quite familiar with
> py. I've gone through the remaining import coding and it seems working, but
> I'm not sure the "geopandas" module is needed or not to properly complete
> the script.
>
> Thanks again!!
> Best,
> Francesca
>
> Il giorno gio 5 mag 2022 alle ore 22:28 Nicolas Cadieux <
> njacadieux.git...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> How many shortest path calculations are you looking at? You could
>> probably do a all pairs shortest path dijkstra and filter the results.  You
>> could batch multiple one to many (point to layers)  In QGIS using the
>> processing plug-in.
>>
>> I did create an algorithm using networkX that could be modified to work
>> with two input layers.  This could be useful if QGIS is not fast enough or
>> if you have too many routes to calculate.  You will find it in the links
>> below. Keep in mind this algorithm was for rivers therefore you have no
>> trafic rules.  This would need more work.
>>
>> You will also find an article we wrote in Data that may help.  If you
>> have trouble with the network, look in the QGIS hub for the models. Look
>> for the 3 “fix directional networks models”.
>>
>> I added a few YouTube videos I made.
>>
>> https://gitlab.com/njacadieux/upstream_downstream_shortests_path_dijkstra
>>   
>>
>> https://www.mdpi.com/2306-5729/5/1/8
>>
>> https://plugins.qgis.org/models/
>>
>> https://youtu.be/v61PafSByvM
>>
>> https://youtu.be/qQrHcKtmr3o
>>
>>
>> Nicolas Cadieux
>> https://gitlab.com/njacadieux
>>
>> Le 5 mai 2022 à 10:38, Francesca Parente via Qgis-user <
>> qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org> a écrit :
>>
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I'd need to identify optimal destinations (within a point layer of
>> geolocated facilities) for each territory of a given set of possible
>> origins.
>> I already calculated a distance matrix between the two point-layers, and
>> also applied the distance-to-nearest-hub tool to generate a string layer
>> and identify the optimal facilities.
>> But I'd like to obtain a more realistic estimate, accounting for the
>> roads network (and ideally their travel times). With quite a few issues, I
>> finally managed to import an OSM road network from download.geofabrik.de
>> (in order to cover my area of interest, I had to merge two different
>> vectors fo Center and Southern Italy and then extract a focus spot in
>> between the two and save it as a lighter layer, otherwise it also took an
>> eternity to run every analysis).
>>
>> So now my question would be: is there a tool to perform a layer-to-layer
>> shortest-path analysis that takes it into account?
>> All that I could find was either point-to-point or
>> layer-to-point/point-to-layer (I looked also at built-in network analysis
>> tool and Qneat3 plugin).
>>
>> Any kind of inputs and suggestions will be more than welcome!
>> Thanks a lot for your support and have a good day,
>> Francesca
>>
>> --
>> 
>> Francesca Parente
>>
>> _ SESS Euro PhD
>>  in
>> SocioEconomic and Statistical Studies
>> _ Luiss SEP  School of European Political Economy
>>
>>
>> email: francescaparente@gmail.com
>>paren...@luiss.it
>>
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>
> --
> 
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>
> _ SESS Euro PhD
>  in
> SocioEconomic and Stati

Re: [Qgis-user] help with shortest-path/network analysis (multiple origins to multiple destinations)

[Francesca Parente via Qgis-user]

Thank you very much indeed Nicolas, for your inputs and all the suggested
materials!
I have 50 targets and 532 origins. My goal is to define where is best to go
within the 50 destinations for each starting point - given the actual range
of choices though, so I'm not sure that running a batch one-to-many would
take into account all the variables properly as a many-to-many would do. In
the absence of a specific modelling, also some second best could work.

I understand that your upstream-downstream-Dijkstra script is suitable for
layer-to-layer indeed and I'm trying to run it, but at the >>> import
geopandas as gpd<< line I got the following error message:







*Traceback (most recent call last):  File
"C:\OSGEO4~1\apps\Python37\lib\code.py", line 90, in runcodeexec(code,
self.locals)  File "", line 1, in   File
"C:/OSGEO4~1/apps/qgis/./python\qgis\utils.py", line 799, in _importmod
= _builtin_import(name, globals, locals, fromlist, level)*
*ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'geopandas'*

I've been following your tutorial, but I admit I'm not quite familiar with
py. I've gone through the remaining import coding and it seems working, but
I'm not sure the "geopandas" module is needed or not to properly complete
the script.

Thanks again!!
Best,
Francesca

Il giorno gio 5 mag 2022 alle ore 22:28 Nicolas Cadieux <
njacadieux.git...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Hi,
>
> How many shortest path calculations are you looking at? You could probably
> do a all pairs shortest path dijkstra and filter the results.  You could
> batch multiple one to many (point to layers)  In QGIS using the processing
> plug-in.
>
> I did create an algorithm using networkX that could be modified to work
> with two input layers.  This could be useful if QGIS is not fast enough or
> if you have too many routes to calculate.  You will find it in the links
> below. Keep in mind this algorithm was for rivers therefore you have no
> trafic rules.  This would need more work.
>
> You will also find an article we wrote in Data that may help.  If you have
> trouble with the network, look in the QGIS hub for the models. Look for the
> 3 “fix directional networks models”.
>
> I added a few YouTube videos I made.
>
> https://gitlab.com/njacadieux/upstream_downstream_shortests_path_dijkstra
> 
>
> https://www.mdpi.com/2306-5729/5/1/8
>
> https://plugins.qgis.org/models/
>
> https://youtu.be/v61PafSByvM
>
> https://youtu.be/qQrHcKtmr3o
>
>
> Nicolas Cadieux
> https://gitlab.com/njacadieux
>
> Le 5 mai 2022 à 10:38, Francesca Parente via Qgis-user <
> qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org> a écrit :
>
> 
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'd need to identify optimal destinations (within a point layer of
> geolocated facilities) for each territory of a given set of possible
> origins.
> I already calculated a distance matrix between the two point-layers, and
> also applied the distance-to-nearest-hub tool to generate a string layer
> and identify the optimal facilities.
> But I'd like to obtain a more realistic estimate, accounting for the roads
> network (and ideally their travel times). With quite a few issues, I
> finally managed to import an OSM road network from download.geofabrik.de
> (in order to cover my area of interest, I had to merge two different
> vectors fo Center and Southern Italy and then extract a focus spot in
> between the two and save it as a lighter layer, otherwise it also took an
> eternity to run every analysis).
>
> So now my question would be: is there a tool to perform a layer-to-layer
> shortest-path analysis that takes it into account?
> All that I could find was either point-to-point or
> layer-to-point/point-to-layer (I looked also at built-in network analysis
> tool and Qneat3 plugin).
>
> Any kind of inputs and suggestions will be more than welcome!
> Thanks a lot for your support and have a good day,
> Francesca
>
> --
> 
> Francesca Parente
>
> _ SESS Euro PhD
>  in
> SocioEconomic and Statistical Studies
> _ Luiss SEP  School of European Political Economy
>
>
> email: francescaparente@gmail.com
>paren...@luiss.it
>
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_ Luiss SEP  School of European Political Economy

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Re: [Qgis-user] help with shortest-path/network analysis (multiple origins to multiple destinations)

[Nicolas Cadieux via Qgis-user]

Hi,

How many shortest path calculations are you looking at? You could probably do a 
all pairs shortest path dijkstra and filter the results.  You could batch 
multiple one to many (point to layers)  In QGIS using the processing plug-in.

I did create an algorithm using networkX that could be modified to work with 
two input layers.  This could be useful if QGIS is not fast enough or if you 
have too many routes to calculate.  You will find it in the links below. Keep 
in mind this algorithm was for rivers therefore you have no trafic rules.  This 
would need more work.

You will also find an article we wrote in Data that may help.  If you have 
trouble with the network, look in the QGIS hub for the models. Look for the 3 
“fix directional networks models”.

I added a few YouTube videos I made.

https://gitlab.com/njacadieux/upstream_downstream_shortests_path_dijkstra 

https://www.mdpi.com/2306-5729/5/1/8

https://plugins.qgis.org/models/

https://youtu.be/v61PafSByvM

https://youtu.be/qQrHcKtmr3o


Nicolas Cadieux
https://gitlab.com/njacadieux

> Le 5 mai 2022 à 10:38, Francesca Parente via Qgis-user 
>  a écrit :
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I'd need to identify optimal destinations (within a point layer of geolocated 
> facilities) for each territory of a given set of possible origins. 
> I already calculated a distance matrix between the two point-layers, and also 
> applied the distance-to-nearest-hub tool to generate a string layer and 
> identify the optimal facilities.
> But I'd like to obtain a more realistic estimate, accounting for the roads 
> network (and ideally their travel times). With quite a few issues, I finally 
> managed to import an OSM road network from download.geofabrik.de (in order to 
> cover my area of interest, I had to merge two different vectors fo Center and 
> Southern Italy and then extract a focus spot in between the two and save it 
> as a lighter layer, otherwise it also took an eternity to run every 
> analysis). 
> 
> So now my question would be: is there a tool to perform a layer-to-layer 
> shortest-path analysis that takes it into account? 
> All that I could find was either point-to-point or 
> layer-to-point/point-to-layer (I looked also at built-in network analysis 
> tool and Qneat3 plugin).
> 
> Any kind of inputs and suggestions will be more than welcome! 
> Thanks a lot for your support and have a good day,
> Francesca
> 
> -- 
> 
> Francesca Parente
> 
> _ SESS Euro PhD in SocioEconomic and Statistical Studies
> _ Luiss SEP School of European Political Economy
> 
> 
> email: francescaparente@gmail.com 
>paren...@luiss.it 
> 
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[Qgis-user] help with shortest-path/network analysis (multiple origins to multiple destinations)

[Francesca Parente via Qgis-user]

Hello everyone,

I'd need to identify optimal destinations (within a point layer of
geolocated facilities) for each territory of a given set of possible
origins.
I already calculated a distance matrix between the two point-layers, and
also applied the distance-to-nearest-hub tool to generate a string layer
and identify the optimal facilities.
But I'd like to obtain a more realistic estimate, accounting for the roads
network (and ideally their travel times). With quite a few issues, I
finally managed to import an OSM road network from download.geofabrik.de
(in order to cover my area of interest, I had to merge two different
vectors fo Center and Southern Italy and then extract a focus spot in
between the two and save it as a lighter layer, otherwise it also took an
eternity to run every analysis).

So now my question would be: is there a tool to perform a layer-to-layer
shortest-path analysis that takes it into account?
All that I could find was either point-to-point or
layer-to-point/point-to-layer (I looked also at built-in network analysis
tool and Qneat3 plugin).

Any kind of inputs and suggestions will be more than welcome!
Thanks a lot for your support and have a good day,
Francesca

-- 

Francesca Parente

_ SESS Euro PhD
 in
SocioEconomic and Statistical Studies
_ Luiss SEP  School of European Political Economy


email: francescaparente@gmail.com
   paren...@luiss.it
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help with scales in print layouts for geographic CRS

[Greg Troxel via Qgis-user]

A further suggestion, which may be too much.

UTM, and the various LCC used in the US at State Plane Coordinate
Systems, have x/y coordinates that are nominally in meters (well, the
older ones used ft or ftUS).  Central meridian or standard parallel
scale factors are chosen to make distance measurements on the ground
correspond to cartesian distances calculated from project coordinates.

When printing UTM maps, standard practice as I understand it is to use a
scale such as 1:25 000, where 1 mm on the map is 25 m in cartesian
distance in projected coordinates.  So the 1 km grid lines would be 40
mm apart.  This is true even if the map is near the edge of the UTM zone
(or in the center).

So, it makes sense to treat a layout in UTM such that scale means the
previous paragraph, even though it's off slightly from my previous
suggestion.  I view this as scale being sort of "snap to standard" if
close.

With quality projections, I suspect this is a difference that might not
be perceptible, but in thinking of printed maps in UTM at standard
scales being used with transparent overlay rules to read coordinates for
search and rescue, I think it makes sense to be able to match this
practice.


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Re: [Qgis-user] Help with scales in print layouts for geographic CRS

[Greg Troxel via Qgis-user]

Nyall Dawson  writes:

> I've been thinking about introducing a new warning when exporting
> layouts, which would look something like this:
>
> 1. For each scale bar, look at the referenced map
> 2. Measure the scale using multiple lines, each across the
> top/middle/bottom horizontally and left/center/right vertically
> 3. Compare these scale values, and if any differ by more than XXX %
> then show a warning to the user. Something like "The scale for map 1
> varies from 1: to 1:y across different parts of the map.
> Consider using an alternative form of representing the map scale (such
> as a grid overlay), as the scale bar may be misleading for this map."

UTM and Lambert Conformal Conic (1SP) have a central scale factor chosen
to make the scale error ratio straddle 1.0, to more or less minimize the
max error.  LCC 2SP is essentially the same but specified differently.

Given that, I'd suggest making the map scale bar be some sort of
geometric mean of horizontal scale, to minimize the max error in a rough
way (without getting too complicated).

Then, when considering large-scale 3857, I'd suggest making the scale
bar be the geometric mean of horizontal and vertical.

So my first suggestion is:

  calculate horiztonal scale top/middle/bottom

  calculate vertical scale left/middle/right

  set scale bar to geometric mean of min and max of the 6 scales

  do this calculation anyway even if there is no scale bar

As for warnings, I don't think we want to warn about 3857 class scale
errors.  So

  If any of the 6 scales are more different from what would be obtained
  with 3857 at 70 N or S, warn if there is a scalebar.  (Maybe that's
  not right, but something like that).

  If any are more different than 1.1x of what Mercator would be, warn,
  even if there is not a scale bar.


I think the big points are

   to warn on the lat/lon non-projection, which is basically always a
   wrong thing to do

   to warn if the scale bar is unreliable at the level of a human using
   a ruler on a paper map


and avoid complaints for commonly-accepted projections for
continent-scale maps.



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Re: [Qgis-user] Help with scales in print layouts for geographic CRS

[Jorge Gustavo Rocha via Qgis-user]

Hi,

Thanks to Greg, Patrick, Nicolas and Nyall for the good discussion.

I never used lat/lon based layouts before and the result can be odd. I 
was trying to make it work, but it is not easy. The layout must include 
a warning about the difference in scales along the axes.


As Nyall said, additional logic could be added to detect scale changes 
along different directions. That introduces newer configurable 
parameters to decide the percentage of change to warn the users.


I think that it would be enough to warn users when they start a layout 
with a lat/lon coordinate system. The warning can be as simple as: 
"Please consider the usage of a projected CRS for your layout. Be aware 
that lat/lon printed maps can have different scales on the x and y axes.".


Regards,

Jorge

On 07/04/22 02:51, Nicolas Cadieux via Qgis-user wrote:


Hi Nyall,

That would be a "nice to have"!

Nicolas

On 2022-04-06 9:13 p.m., Nyall Dawson via Qgis-user wrote:

On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 at 10:26, Greg Troxel  wrote:


Nyall Dawson  writes:


In all cases (projected OR geographic) the scalebar logic is:

1. Create a horizontal line across the width of the layout map
2. Calculate the length of that line using great circle/ellipsoidal
calculations, based on the project's ellipsoid settings.
3. Compare the length of the ellipsoidal line vs the map width to
calculate the corresponding scale

That is a very straightforward approach with easy-to-understand
semantics.


So qgis scalebar calculations are ALWAYS based on great
circle/ellipsoidal lengths*.

And more precisely, a true geodesic between two points varying in x and
with constant y in the layout CRS.  For north-up (at least ish)
projections, that means a line of constant latitude.

For a lat/lon CRS in the layout, at mid latitudes, it's going to mean
that the scale in the y axis is smaller by about 110km/70km; a 
square in

lat/lon is taller than it is wide (and plus it's not a square, but
that's less obvious).  Equivalently, a square on the ground has a 
larger

difference in longitude than it does in latitude.  Or maybe I have that
backward, but using lat/lon in a layout does not preserve shapes.

This is what I was trying to get at: a single concept of scale is 
really
only valid for a projection that has the same scale in x and y.  
Which I

think is true iff the projection is conformal.  And it's only truly
valid if the scale doesn't change over the layout, which is probably
~never exactly true, but many projections aim to have it remain close
enough to be treated as constant (e.g. UTM).

Which is a long way of getting around to "if you are using lat/lon as
the axes in your layout, either you are doing something odd on purpose
or you probably should rethink your approach."  If you really do mean
it, I would find the explanation of why interesting.

All correct, indeed!

I've been thinking about introducing a new warning when exporting
layouts, which would look something like this:

1. For each scale bar, look at the referenced map
2. Measure the scale using multiple lines, each across the
top/middle/bottom horizontally and left/center/right vertically
3. Compare these scale values, and if any differ by more than XXX %
then show a warning to the user. Something like "The scale for map 1
varies from 1: to 1:y across different parts of the map.
Consider using an alternative form of representing the map scale (such
as a grid overlay), as the scale bar may be misleading for this map."

What do you think?

Nyall



* Unless the project itself is set to not use ellipsoidal calculations
and only use planar calculations, in the project properties dialog

Presumably those calculations are in the project CRS's xy space, and
would typically (when used sensibly) be grid distance in UTM, some 
State

Plane Coordinate System, or similar.

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Re: [Qgis-user] Help with scales in print layouts for geographic CRS

[Nicolas Cadieux via Qgis-user]

Hi Nyall,

That would be a "nice to have"!

Nicolas

On 2022-04-06 9:13 p.m., Nyall Dawson via Qgis-user wrote:

On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 at 10:26, Greg Troxel  wrote:


Nyall Dawson  writes:


In all cases (projected OR geographic) the scalebar logic is:

1. Create a horizontal line across the width of the layout map
2. Calculate the length of that line using great circle/ellipsoidal
calculations, based on the project's ellipsoid settings.
3. Compare the length of the ellipsoidal line vs the map width to
calculate the corresponding scale

That is a very straightforward approach with easy-to-understand
semantics.


So qgis scalebar calculations are ALWAYS based on great
circle/ellipsoidal lengths*.

And more precisely, a true geodesic between two points varying in x and
with constant y in the layout CRS.  For north-up (at least ish)
projections, that means a line of constant latitude.

For a lat/lon CRS in the layout, at mid latitudes, it's going to mean
that the scale in the y axis is smaller by about 110km/70km; a square in
lat/lon is taller than it is wide (and plus it's not a square, but
that's less obvious).  Equivalently, a square on the ground has a larger
difference in longitude than it does in latitude.  Or maybe I have that
backward, but using lat/lon in a layout does not preserve shapes.

This is what I was trying to get at: a single concept of scale is really
only valid for a projection that has the same scale in x and y.  Which I
think is true iff the projection is conformal.  And it's only truly
valid if the scale doesn't change over the layout, which is probably
~never exactly true, but many projections aim to have it remain close
enough to be treated as constant (e.g. UTM).

Which is a long way of getting around to "if you are using lat/lon as
the axes in your layout, either you are doing something odd on purpose
or you probably should rethink your approach."  If you really do mean
it, I would find the explanation of why interesting.

All correct, indeed!

I've been thinking about introducing a new warning when exporting
layouts, which would look something like this:

1. For each scale bar, look at the referenced map
2. Measure the scale using multiple lines, each across the
top/middle/bottom horizontally and left/center/right vertically
3. Compare these scale values, and if any differ by more than XXX %
then show a warning to the user. Something like "The scale for map 1
varies from 1: to 1:y across different parts of the map.
Consider using an alternative form of representing the map scale (such
as a grid overlay), as the scale bar may be misleading for this map."

What do you think?

Nyall



* Unless the project itself is set to not use ellipsoidal calculations
and only use planar calculations, in the project properties dialog

Presumably those calculations are in the project CRS's xy space, and
would typically (when used sensibly) be grid distance in UTM, some State
Plane Coordinate System, or similar.

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Re: [Qgis-user] Help with scales in print layouts for geographic CRS

[Nyall Dawson via Qgis-user]

On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 at 10:26, Greg Troxel  wrote:
>
>
> Nyall Dawson  writes:
>
> > In all cases (projected OR geographic) the scalebar logic is:
> >
> > 1. Create a horizontal line across the width of the layout map
> > 2. Calculate the length of that line using great circle/ellipsoidal
> > calculations, based on the project's ellipsoid settings.
> > 3. Compare the length of the ellipsoidal line vs the map width to
> > calculate the corresponding scale
>
> That is a very straightforward approach with easy-to-understand
> semantics.
>
> > So qgis scalebar calculations are ALWAYS based on great
> > circle/ellipsoidal lengths*.
>
> And more precisely, a true geodesic between two points varying in x and
> with constant y in the layout CRS.  For north-up (at least ish)
> projections, that means a line of constant latitude.
>
> For a lat/lon CRS in the layout, at mid latitudes, it's going to mean
> that the scale in the y axis is smaller by about 110km/70km; a square in
> lat/lon is taller than it is wide (and plus it's not a square, but
> that's less obvious).  Equivalently, a square on the ground has a larger
> difference in longitude than it does in latitude.  Or maybe I have that
> backward, but using lat/lon in a layout does not preserve shapes.
>
> This is what I was trying to get at: a single concept of scale is really
> only valid for a projection that has the same scale in x and y.  Which I
> think is true iff the projection is conformal.  And it's only truly
> valid if the scale doesn't change over the layout, which is probably
> ~never exactly true, but many projections aim to have it remain close
> enough to be treated as constant (e.g. UTM).
>
> Which is a long way of getting around to "if you are using lat/lon as
> the axes in your layout, either you are doing something odd on purpose
> or you probably should rethink your approach."  If you really do mean
> it, I would find the explanation of why interesting.

All correct, indeed!

I've been thinking about introducing a new warning when exporting
layouts, which would look something like this:

1. For each scale bar, look at the referenced map
2. Measure the scale using multiple lines, each across the
top/middle/bottom horizontally and left/center/right vertically
3. Compare these scale values, and if any differ by more than XXX %
then show a warning to the user. Something like "The scale for map 1
varies from 1: to 1:y across different parts of the map.
Consider using an alternative form of representing the map scale (such
as a grid overlay), as the scale bar may be misleading for this map."

What do you think?

Nyall


>
> > * Unless the project itself is set to not use ellipsoidal calculations
> > and only use planar calculations, in the project properties dialog
>
> Presumably those calculations are in the project CRS's xy space, and
> would typically (when used sensibly) be grid distance in UTM, some State
> Plane Coordinate System, or similar.
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help with scales in print layouts for geographic CRS

[Greg Troxel via Qgis-user]

Nyall Dawson  writes:

> In all cases (projected OR geographic) the scalebar logic is:
>
> 1. Create a horizontal line across the width of the layout map
> 2. Calculate the length of that line using great circle/ellipsoidal
> calculations, based on the project's ellipsoid settings.
> 3. Compare the length of the ellipsoidal line vs the map width to
> calculate the corresponding scale

That is a very straightforward approach with easy-to-understand
semantics.

> So qgis scalebar calculations are ALWAYS based on great
> circle/ellipsoidal lengths*.

And more precisely, a true geodesic between two points varying in x and
with constant y in the layout CRS.  For north-up (at least ish)
projections, that means a line of constant latitude.

For a lat/lon CRS in the layout, at mid latitudes, it's going to mean
that the scale in the y axis is smaller by about 110km/70km; a square in
lat/lon is taller than it is wide (and plus it's not a square, but
that's less obvious).  Equivalently, a square on the ground has a larger
difference in longitude than it does in latitude.  Or maybe I have that
backward, but using lat/lon in a layout does not preserve shapes.

This is what I was trying to get at: a single concept of scale is really
only valid for a projection that has the same scale in x and y.  Which I
think is true iff the projection is conformal.  And it's only truly
valid if the scale doesn't change over the layout, which is probably
~never exactly true, but many projections aim to have it remain close
enough to be treated as constant (e.g. UTM).

Which is a long way of getting around to "if you are using lat/lon as
the axes in your layout, either you are doing something odd on purpose
or you probably should rethink your approach."  If you really do mean
it, I would find the explanation of why interesting.

> * Unless the project itself is set to not use ellipsoidal calculations
> and only use planar calculations, in the project properties dialog

Presumably those calculations are in the project CRS's xy space, and
would typically (when used sensibly) be grid distance in UTM, some State
Plane Coordinate System, or similar.


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Re: [Qgis-user] Help with scales in print layouts for geographic CRS

[Nyall Dawson via Qgis-user]

On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 at 09:34, Greg Troxel via Qgis-user
 wrote:
>
> Jorge Gustavo Rocha via Qgis-user  writes:
>
> > I need you help to understand how scale works with geographic
> > coordinate systems.


In all cases (projected OR geographic) the scalebar logic is:

1. Create a horizontal line across the width of the layout map
2. Calculate the length of that line using great circle/ellipsoidal
calculations, based on the project's ellipsoid settings.
3. Compare the length of the ellipsoidal line vs the map width to
calculate the corresponding scale

So qgis scalebar calculations are ALWAYS based on great
circle/ellipsoidal lengths*.

Nyall

* Unless the project itself is set to not use ellipsoidal calculations
and only use planar calculations, in the project properties dialog
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help with scales in print layouts for geographic CRS

[Nicolas Cadieux via Qgis-user]

Hi,
Your calculations are based on a sphere.  The different crs use a geoids. It 
would help if you could say what crs you are using and the differences between 
what you get and what you expect.

Nicolas Cadieux
https://gitlab.com/njacadieux

> Le 6 avr. 2022 à 13:13, Jorge Gustavo Rocha via Qgis-user 
>  a écrit :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thank you all for the comments.
> 
> As far as I can see from my tests, the behavior is not related with the CRS 
> in use. I've used more than one meter based projection to make sure the areas 
> were fine. I use the advanced digitizing tools to create segments with the 
> exact distance. Using projected CRS, the layouts are always fine.
> 
> The problem is related to the map area calculated for a giving scale, in the 
> composer, when a lat/long coordinate system is in use.
> 
> If I make a very simple calculation of the area to render at a giving scale, 
> my calculations work fine.
> 
> The width does not depend on the latitude, and should be:
> 
> layout_width_mm * scale / 1000.0
> 
> The height depends on the latitude. To compute it, I use the cosine of the 
> latitude:
> 
> cosine = cos( center_latitude * PI / 180 );
> 
> layout_height_mm * scale / 1000.0 / cosine;
> 
> Based on this simple math, after converting these distances to lat/log, I can 
> compute the "correct" ( ie expected) extend of the map in the layout. If I 
> setup this extent manually, it works fine.
> 
> But the extent calculated by QGIS is different. I'll have to check the code 
> to see why the logic if different from this one. Probably I am simplifying 
> the calculations too much.
> 
> I'll return back after reading the code.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jorge Gustavo
> 
>> On 06/04/22 15:10, Greg Troxel via Qgis-user wrote:
>> Patrick Dunford via Qgis-user  writes:
>> 
>>> On 6/04/22 11:34, Greg Troxel via Qgis-user wrote:
 Jorge Gustavo Rocha via Qgis-user  writes:
 
 2) Using a geographic CRS, the same 150mm x 150mm map, at the same
> 1:1 scale, the area is bigger then the 1500m polygon. The result
> is attached https://nextcloud.geomaster.pt/index.php/s/H2eAytsPANyxn6Y
> 
> On both layouts the scale bar widget is working properly. The
> distances (and areas) are properly calculated in QGIS interface. I
> have set the GRS 1980 ellipsoid for distance and area calculations.
 What does it mean to use a geographic CRS for a print layout?  Do you
 really expect longitude on the x axis and latitude on the y axis?  The
 value of meters/degree is different for x and y, unless you are at or
 near the equator.  (Living at 42N-ish, I'm very aware of this.)
>>> This may be the case for projections like EPSG:3857 that are based on
>>> a spherical projection of the Earth but is it the case for all
>>> projections?
>> By "geographic CRS", I interpet that to mean one that is latitude and
>> longitude.  That is not really a "projection".
>> 
>> Yes, EPSG:3857 has an incorrect spherical assumption, and I'd have to
>> calculate, but I would not expect massive scale distortion, where
>> massive is casually visually apparent.
>> 
>> Perhaps Jorge can be precise about which CRS codes are in use.
>> 
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help with scales in print layouts for geographic CRS

[Jorge Gustavo Rocha via Qgis-user]

Hi,

Thank you all for the comments.

As far as I can see from my tests, the behavior is not related with the 
CRS in use. I've used more than one meter based projection to make sure 
the areas were fine. I use the advanced digitizing tools to create 
segments with the exact distance. Using projected CRS, the layouts are 
always fine.


The problem is related to the map area calculated for a giving scale, in 
the composer, when a lat/long coordinate system is in use.


If I make a very simple calculation of the area to render at a giving 
scale, my calculations work fine.


The width does not depend on the latitude, and should be:

layout_width_mm * scale / 1000.0

The height depends on the latitude. To compute it, I use the cosine of 
the latitude:


cosine = cos( center_latitude * PI / 180 );

layout_height_mm * scale / 1000.0 / cosine;

Based on this simple math, after converting these distances to lat/log, 
I can compute the "correct" ( ie expected) extend of the map in the 
layout. If I setup this extent manually, it works fine.


But the extent calculated by QGIS is different. I'll have to check the 
code to see why the logic if different from this one. Probably I am 
simplifying the calculations too much.


I'll return back after reading the code.

Regards,

Jorge Gustavo

On 06/04/22 15:10, Greg Troxel via Qgis-user wrote:

Patrick Dunford via Qgis-user  writes:


On 6/04/22 11:34, Greg Troxel via Qgis-user wrote:

Jorge Gustavo Rocha via Qgis-user  writes:

2) Using a geographic CRS, the same 150mm x 150mm map, at the same

1:1 scale, the area is bigger then the 1500m polygon. The result
is attached https://nextcloud.geomaster.pt/index.php/s/H2eAytsPANyxn6Y

On both layouts the scale bar widget is working properly. The
distances (and areas) are properly calculated in QGIS interface. I
have set the GRS 1980 ellipsoid for distance and area calculations.

What does it mean to use a geographic CRS for a print layout?  Do you
really expect longitude on the x axis and latitude on the y axis?  The
value of meters/degree is different for x and y, unless you are at or
near the equator.  (Living at 42N-ish, I'm very aware of this.)

This may be the case for projections like EPSG:3857 that are based on
a spherical projection of the Earth but is it the case for all
projections?

By "geographic CRS", I interpet that to mean one that is latitude and
longitude.  That is not really a "projection".

Yes, EPSG:3857 has an incorrect spherical assumption, and I'd have to
calculate, but I would not expect massive scale distortion, where
massive is casually visually apparent.

Perhaps Jorge can be precise about which CRS codes are in use.

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Re: [Qgis-user] Help with scales in print layouts for geographic CRS

[Greg Troxel via Qgis-user]

Patrick Dunford via Qgis-user  writes:

> On 6/04/22 11:34, Greg Troxel via Qgis-user wrote:
>> Jorge Gustavo Rocha via Qgis-user  writes:
>>
>> 2) Using a geographic CRS, the same 150mm x 150mm map, at the same
>>> 1:1 scale, the area is bigger then the 1500m polygon. The result
>>> is attached https://nextcloud.geomaster.pt/index.php/s/H2eAytsPANyxn6Y
>>>
>>> On both layouts the scale bar widget is working properly. The
>>> distances (and areas) are properly calculated in QGIS interface. I
>>> have set the GRS 1980 ellipsoid for distance and area calculations.
>> What does it mean to use a geographic CRS for a print layout?  Do you
>> really expect longitude on the x axis and latitude on the y axis?  The
>> value of meters/degree is different for x and y, unless you are at or
>> near the equator.  (Living at 42N-ish, I'm very aware of this.)
>
> This may be the case for projections like EPSG:3857 that are based on
> a spherical projection of the Earth but is it the case for all
> projections?

By "geographic CRS", I interpet that to mean one that is latitude and
longitude.  That is not really a "projection".

Yes, EPSG:3857 has an incorrect spherical assumption, and I'd have to
calculate, but I would not expect massive scale distortion, where
massive is casually visually apparent.

Perhaps Jorge can be precise about which CRS codes are in use.


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Re: [Qgis-user] Help with scales in print layouts for geographic CRS

[Nicolas Cadieux via Qgis-user]

Hi,

Great question!  I am not the best person to answer it as this is a question 
for the Proj4 project  people. They do geodesy and generally, a conversation 
with them bring me back to my worse math class experiences! I should have 
listened, I say to myself!

Anyways, CRS are not all created the same.  If you read the link below, you 
will see that a CRS can minimize distorsion for the area, distance, shape, 
direction and bearing but not all of them at once.  Google for the projected 
coordinates system you used.  You may find what quality it aims to minimize 
distortion.  If not, Google for the type of projection it’s based on 
(conformal, equal-area…)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_projection

As others have pointed, a degree of longitude does not measure the same length 
as a degree of latitude.  I would expect scales to reflect latitude distances 
for the latitude of your map.  If this is not the case, then they are possibly 
using a short cut and using a latitude distance at the equator.  This would be 
a good question for the developers.

Whatever test you do, make sure your polygon in the projected CRS does measure 
the correct 1000x1000m or 1500x1500m in length.  The easiest way to do this is 
to draw the rectangle using advanced digitizing modes is a local UTM zone.  You 
can also use a WKT polygon you created in a csv file.

 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Well-known_text_representation_of_geometry) 

Then,  « densify » (processing tools box) the rectangle to add tons of nodes to 
the lines.  ( A rectangle with only 4 corner nodes cannot be accurately 
reprojected on a sphere.) Then, reproject the layer to a projected CRS you want 
to test.  Make sure all the layers are in the same crs as the project, same 
thing for the map space.  You need to make sure QGIS does not do any 
reprojection on the fly without you knowing it.

Nicolas Cadieux
https://gitlab.com/njacadieux

> Le 5 avr. 2022 à 11:00, Jorge Gustavo Rocha via Qgis-user 
>  a écrit :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I need you help to understand how scale works with geographic coordinate 
> systems.
> 
> For projected coordinates systems, the layouts seems to work as expected.
> 
> This is my use case:
> 
> I've draw a polygon with 1000m width and height, and another with 1500, width 
> and height, sharing the upper left corner.
> 
> 1) Using a projected CRS, if I create a layout with a 150mm x 150mm map, the 
> 1500m polygon fits perfectly on the print area, setting a 1:1 scale. 
> That's what I expected. The results is 
> https://nextcloud.geomaster.pt/index.php/s/TKpkBaqty8BdLL8
> 
> 2) Using a geographic CRS, the same 150mm x 150mm map, at the same 1:1 
> scale, the area is bigger then the 1500m polygon. The result is attached 
> https://nextcloud.geomaster.pt/index.php/s/H2eAytsPANyxn6Y
> 
> On both layouts the scale bar widget is working properly. The distances (and 
> areas) are properly calculated in QGIS interface. I have set the GRS 1980 
> ellipsoid for distance and area calculations.
> 
> My question is: why the second layout does not fit the 1500m polygon 
> properly? The second layout shows approximately a 2000m square, instead of a 
> 1500m square.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jorge Gustavo
> 
> 
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help with scales in print layouts for geographic CRS

[Patrick Dunford via Qgis-user]

On 6/04/22 11:34, Greg Troxel via Qgis-user wrote:

Jorge Gustavo Rocha via Qgis-user  writes:

2) Using a geographic CRS, the same 150mm x 150mm map, at the same

1:1 scale, the area is bigger then the 1500m polygon. The result
is attached https://nextcloud.geomaster.pt/index.php/s/H2eAytsPANyxn6Y

On both layouts the scale bar widget is working properly. The
distances (and areas) are properly calculated in QGIS interface. I
have set the GRS 1980 ellipsoid for distance and area calculations.

What does it mean to use a geographic CRS for a print layout?  Do you
really expect longitude on the x axis and latitude on the y axis?  The
value of meters/degree is different for x and y, unless you are at or
near the equator.  (Living at 42N-ish, I'm very aware of this.)


This may be the case for projections like EPSG:3857 that are based on a 
spherical projection of the Earth but is it the case for all projections?



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Re: [Qgis-user] Help with scales in print layouts for geographic CRS

[Greg Troxel via Qgis-user]

Jorge Gustavo Rocha via Qgis-user  writes:

> I need you help to understand how scale works with geographic
> coordinate systems.

A good question.

> This is my use case:

It seems like your minimal example to show what doesn't work like you
think it should, instead of what you want to do, but that's good -
simpler is better for discussing.

> I've draw a polygon with 1000m width and height, and another with
> 1500, width and height, sharing the upper left corner.

Presumably you have some project CRS, and a layer in which you drew the
polygon and it has a layer CRS.  You then say width and height, which is
a map concept more than an on-the-ground concept.  But I'll assume you
are using UTM or similar and have a square in UTM coordinates.

Presumably also the 1000m is measured in your layer or project CRS.

> 1) Using a projected CRS, if I create a layout with a 150mm x 150mm
> map, the 1500m polygon fits perfectly on the print area, setting a
> 1:1 scale. That's what I expected. The results is
> https://nextcloud.geomaster.pt/index.php/s/TKpkBaqty8BdLL8

That makes sense.

> 2) Using a geographic CRS, the same 150mm x 150mm map, at the same
> 1:1 scale, the area is bigger then the 1500m polygon. The result
> is attached https://nextcloud.geomaster.pt/index.php/s/H2eAytsPANyxn6Y
>
> On both layouts the scale bar widget is working properly. The
> distances (and areas) are properly calculated in QGIS interface. I
> have set the GRS 1980 ellipsoid for distance and area calculations.

What does it mean to use a geographic CRS for a print layout?  Do you
really expect longitude on the x axis and latitude on the y axis?  The
value of meters/degree is different for x and y, unless you are at or
near the equator.  (Living at 42N-ish, I'm very aware of this.)

> My question is: why the second layout does not fit the 1500m polygon
> properly? The second layout shows approximately a 2000m square,
> instead of a 1500m square.

I would expect Scale to relate units in the project CRS to dimensions on
the layout.  But, there's perhaps some implicit conversion to meters
from geographic coordinates.  I wonder if that's happening, and if so if
it's a bug -- it feels like a bug to me.

I also wonder if geographic coordinates somehow use different scaling on
each axis to make it seem more conformal than it is.

Overall, it feels like a bug to use geographic coordinates in a print
layout.
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[Qgis-user] Help with scales in print layouts for geographic CRS

[Jorge Gustavo Rocha via Qgis-user]

Hi,

I need you help to understand how scale works with geographic coordinate 
systems.


For projected coordinates systems, the layouts seems to work as expected.

This is my use case:

I've draw a polygon with 1000m width and height, and another with 1500, 
width and height, sharing the upper left corner.


1) Using a projected CRS, if I create a layout with a 150mm x 150mm map, 
the 1500m polygon fits perfectly on the print area, setting a 1:1 
scale. That's what I expected. The results is 
https://nextcloud.geomaster.pt/index.php/s/TKpkBaqty8BdLL8


2) Using a geographic CRS, the same 150mm x 150mm map, at the same 
1:1 scale, the area is bigger then the 1500m polygon. The result is 
attached https://nextcloud.geomaster.pt/index.php/s/H2eAytsPANyxn6Y


On both layouts the scale bar widget is working properly. The distances 
(and areas) are properly calculated in QGIS interface. I have set the 
GRS 1980 ellipsoid for distance and area calculations.


My question is: why the second layout does not fit the 1500m polygon 
properly? The second layout shows approximately a 2000m square, instead 
of a 1500m square.


Regards,

Jorge Gustavo


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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Marc Millas]

Just a question: isnt it possible to open a thread for people to exchange
about hosting capabilities (could be 3 months or ...). ?
when I write hosting, I am not speaking of awc/g/azure/... of course.



Marc MILLAS
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www.mokadb.com



On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 12:15 AM Shinoto, PD Dr. Maria <
maria.shin...@zaw.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:

> +1
>
> > Am 27.02.2022 um 01:22 schrieb Hernán De Angelis <
> variablestarli...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > Thank you Marco for this. It is an excellent message: constructive and
> positive, yet clear and strong enough to show the community's concern.
> >
> > /H.
> >
> > Den 2022-02-26 kl. 16:43, skrev Marco Bernasocchi:
> >> Dear QGIS Community,
> >>
> >> Thank you very much to all who participated in this thread. As a
> project, we have made our position clear in the newsfeed (shown on the QGIS
> Desktop start screen). As a general principle, we would like to encourage
> users of QGIS to use the software for the good of humanity, but we cannot
> tell people what they can and cannot do with the software.
> >> We would kindly ask that the discussions in this thread be moved
> off-list so that we can maintain the central aim of supporting users in
> their quest to make the best use of QGIS.
> >>
> >> On behalf of the PSC,
> >> Marco
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia
> >> Date:Fri, 25 Feb 2022 10:02:12 -0800
> >> From:chris hermansen 
> >> To:  Anita Graser 
> >> CC:  qgis-user 
> >>
> >>
> >> Anita and list members,
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:49 AM Anita Graser 
> wrote:
> >> Good points, Jürgen!
> >>
> >> On 25.02.2022 17:18, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
> >> > Anyway, I also think it's better to make a statement than to exclude
> people
> >> > from using QGIS (if we were even able to do so reliably).Maybe
> even
> >> > something on our news feed
> >>
> >> I agree that making a statement on the news feed is likely more
> >> impactful than forcing users or contributors with Russian IPs to use a
> VPN.
> >>
> >> News items are displayed on every QGIS startup (if machines are online)
> >> while other messages would only be viewed by people visiting the
> website.
> >>
> >> Given the clarity in the GPL (under which QGIS is licensed) around not
> restricting the freedom of others, I don't see how we QGIS community
> members can advocate for limiting freedoms.
> >>
> >> But I do like the idea of concrete positive things we can do as a
> community, whether by naming upcoming versions of QGIS for cities where
> people are oppressed by invaders or their own governments or by engaging in
> public expressions of support as Andreas Neumann suggested... here is
> another idea: what about individually contributing some funds "in the name
> of QGIS and freedom" to worthy organizations that will actually help the
> people of Ukraine?  For example https://redcross.org.ua/en/ or possibly
> this organization http://ukrainedemocracy.org/  Or maybe a Kickstarter or
> GoFundMe to collectivize our contributions?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Chris Hermansen · clhermansen "at" gmail "dot" com
> >>
> >> C'est ma façon de parler.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >> OPENGIS.ch CEO
> >> http://berna.io
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Shinoto, PD Dr. Maria]

+1

> Am 27.02.2022 um 01:22 schrieb Hernán De Angelis 
> :
> 
> Thank you Marco for this. It is an excellent message: constructive and 
> positive, yet clear and strong enough to show the community's concern.
> 
> /H.
> 
> Den 2022-02-26 kl. 16:43, skrev Marco Bernasocchi:
>> Dear QGIS Community,
>> 
>> Thank you very much to all who participated in this thread. As a project, we 
>> have made our position clear in the newsfeed (shown on the QGIS Desktop 
>> start screen). As a general principle, we would like to encourage users of 
>> QGIS to use the software for the good of humanity, but we cannot tell people 
>> what they can and cannot do with the software.
>> We would kindly ask that the discussions in this thread be moved off-list so 
>> that we can maintain the central aim of supporting users in their quest to 
>> make the best use of QGIS.
>> 
>> On behalf of the PSC,
>> Marco
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia
>> Date:Fri, 25 Feb 2022 10:02:12 -0800
>> From:chris hermansen 
>> To:  Anita Graser 
>> CC:  qgis-user 
>> 
>> 
>> Anita and list members,
>> 
>> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:49 AM Anita Graser  wrote:
>> Good points, Jürgen!
>> 
>> On 25.02.2022 17:18, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
>> > Anyway, I also think it's better to make a statement than to exclude people
>> > from using QGIS (if we were even able to do so reliably).Maybe even
>> > something on our news feed
>> 
>> I agree that making a statement on the news feed is likely more
>> impactful than forcing users or contributors with Russian IPs to use a VPN.
>> 
>> News items are displayed on every QGIS startup (if machines are online)
>> while other messages would only be viewed by people visiting the website.
>> 
>> Given the clarity in the GPL (under which QGIS is licensed) around not 
>> restricting the freedom of others, I don't see how we QGIS community members 
>> can advocate for limiting freedoms.
>> 
>> But I do like the idea of concrete positive things we can do as a community, 
>> whether by naming upcoming versions of QGIS for cities where people are 
>> oppressed by invaders or their own governments or by engaging in public 
>> expressions of support as Andreas Neumann suggested... here is another idea: 
>> what about individually contributing some funds "in the name of QGIS and 
>> freedom" to worthy organizations that will actually help the people of 
>> Ukraine?  For example https://redcross.org.ua/en/ or possibly this 
>> organization http://ukrainedemocracy.org/  Or maybe a Kickstarter or 
>> GoFundMe to collectivize our contributions?
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Chris Hermansen · clhermansen "at" gmail "dot" com
>> 
>> C'est ma façon de parler.
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Marco Bernasocchi
>> 
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>> OPENGIS.ch CEO
>> http://berna.io
>> 
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Hernán De Angelis]

Thank you Marco for this. It is an excellent message: constructive and 
positive, yet clear and strong enough to show the community's concern.


/H.

Den 2022-02-26 kl. 16:43, skrev Marco Bernasocchi:


Dear QGIS Community,


Thank you very much to all who participated in this thread. As a 
project, we have made our position clear in the newsfeed (shown on the 
QGIS Desktop start screen). As a general principle, we would like to 
encourage users of QGIS to use the software for the good of humanity, 
but we cannot tell people what they can and cannot do with the software.


We would kindly ask that the discussions in this thread be moved 
off-list so that we can maintain the central aim of supporting users 
in their quest to make the best use of QGIS.



On behalf of the PSC,

Marco




Subject:Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia
Date:   Fri, 25 Feb 2022 10:02:12 -0800
From:   chris hermansen 
<mailto:clherman...@gmail.com>
To: Anita Graser  <mailto:anitagra...@gmx.at>
CC: qgis-user 
<mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org>



Anita and list members,

On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:49 AM Anita Graser 
wrote:

Good points, Jürgen!

On 25.02.2022 17:18, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
> Anyway, I also think it's better to make a statement than to
exclude people
> from using QGIS (if we were even able to do so reliably).   
Maybe even
> something on our news feed

I agree that making a statement on the news feed is likely more
impactful than forcing users or contributors with Russian IPs
to use a VPN.

News items are displayed on every QGIS startup (if machines
are online)
while other messages would only be viewed by people visiting
the website.


Given the clarity in the GPL (under which QGIS is licensed) around
not restricting the freedom of others, I don't see how we QGIS
community members can advocate for limiting freedoms.

But I do like the idea of concrete positive things we can do as a
community, whether by naming upcoming versions of QGIS for cities
where people are oppressed by invaders or their own governments or
by engaging in public expressions of support as Andreas Neumann
suggested... here is another idea: what about individually
contributing some funds "in the name of QGIS and freedom" to
worthy organizations that will actually help the people of
Ukraine?  For example https://redcross.org.ua/en/ or possibly this
organization http://ukrainedemocracy.org/ Or maybe a Kickstarter
or GoFundMe to collectivize our contributions?


-- 
Chris Hermansen · clhermansen "at" gmail "dot" com


C'est ma façon de parler.



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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Marco Bernasocchi]

Dear QGIS Community,

Thank you very much to all who participated in this thread. As a project,
we have made our position clear in the newsfeed (shown on the QGIS Desktop
start screen). As a general principle, we would like to encourage users of
QGIS to use the software for the good of humanity, but we cannot tell
people what they can and cannot do with the software.

We would kindly ask that the discussions in this thread be moved off-list
so that we can maintain the central aim of supporting users in their quest
to make the best use of QGIS.

On behalf of the PSC,

Marco



> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia
> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 10:02:12 -0800
> From: chris hermansen  
> To: Anita Graser  
> CC: qgis-user  
>
> Anita and list members,
>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:49 AM Anita Graser  wrote:
>
>> Good points, Jürgen!
>>
>> On 25.02.2022 17:18, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
>> > Anyway, I also think it's better to make a statement than to exclude
>> people
>> > from using QGIS (if we were even able to do so reliably).Maybe even
>> > something on our news feed
>>
>> I agree that making a statement on the news feed is likely more
>> impactful than forcing users or contributors with Russian IPs to use a
>> VPN.
>>
>> News items are displayed on every QGIS startup (if machines are online)
>> while other messages would only be viewed by people visiting the website.
>>
>
> Given the clarity in the GPL (under which QGIS is licensed) around not
> restricting the freedom of others, I don't see how we QGIS community
> members can advocate for limiting freedoms.
>
> But I do like the idea of concrete positive things we can do as a
> community, whether by naming upcoming versions of QGIS for cities where
> people are oppressed by invaders or their own governments or by engaging in
> public expressions of support as Andreas Neumann suggested... here is
> another idea: what about individually contributing some funds "in the name
> of QGIS and freedom" to worthy organizations that will actually help the
> people of Ukraine?  For example https://redcross.org.ua/en/ or possibly
> this organization http://ukrainedemocracy.org/  Or maybe a Kickstarter or
> GoFundMe to collectivize our contributions?
>
>
> --
> Chris Hermansen · clhermansen "at" gmail "dot" com
>
> C'est ma façon de parler.
>


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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[chris hermansen]

Anita and list members,

On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:49 AM Anita Graser  wrote:

> Good points, Jürgen!
>
> On 25.02.2022 17:18, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
> > Anyway, I also think it's better to make a statement than to exclude
> people
> > from using QGIS (if we were even able to do so reliably).Maybe even
> > something on our news feed
>
> I agree that making a statement on the news feed is likely more
> impactful than forcing users or contributors with Russian IPs to use a VPN.
>
> News items are displayed on every QGIS startup (if machines are online)
> while other messages would only be viewed by people visiting the website.
>

Given the clarity in the GPL (under which QGIS is licensed) around not
restricting the freedom of others, I don't see how we QGIS community
members can advocate for limiting freedoms.

But I do like the idea of concrete positive things we can do as a
community, whether by naming upcoming versions of QGIS for cities where
people are oppressed by invaders or their own governments or by engaging in
public expressions of support as Andreas Neumann suggested... here is
another idea: what about individually contributing some funds "in the name
of QGIS and freedom" to worthy organizations that will actually help the
people of Ukraine?  For example https://redcross.org.ua/en/ or possibly
this organization http://ukrainedemocracy.org/  Or maybe a Kickstarter or
GoFundMe to collectivize our contributions?


-- 
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Anita Graser]

Good points, Jürgen!

On 25.02.2022 17:18, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:

Anyway, I also think it's better to make a statement than to exclude people
from using QGIS (if we were even able to do so reliably).Maybe even
something on our news feed


I agree that making a statement on the news feed is likely more
impactful than forcing users or contributors with Russian IPs to use a VPN.

News items are displayed on every QGIS startup (if machines are online)
while other messages would only be viewed by people visiting the website.

Regards,

Anita



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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Jürgen E . Fischer]

Hi Andreas,

On Fri, 25. Feb 2022 at 14:41:17 +0100, Andreas Neumann wrote:
> The naming of the next QGIS release 3.26 (due for release in June) after
> Ukraine or Kiew sounds like a good and interesting proposal that should be

Київ or Kyiv.  I think Kiew is from the russian transliteration.

Anyway, I also think it's better to make a statement than to exclude people
from using QGIS (if we were even able to do so reliably).Maybe even
something on our news feed - getting banned for speaking the truth would be
better than to also ban good people, who are beeing lied to - and may get
arrested for speaking their mind, if they found out.


Jürgen

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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Andreas Neumann]

Hi Markus,

The naming of the next QGIS release 3.26 (due for release in June) after
Ukraine or Kiew sounds like a good and interesting proposal that should be
discussed in the QGIS PSC and community. Thanks for raising this idea!

Normally we use the place names of "contributor meetings", but the last
version 3.24 was named in honor of Håvard - a very active Norwegian QGIS
community member who unfortunately passed away recently.

Markus: Do you want to send a formal request to the PSC mailing list? See
https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/mailinglists.html#qgis-project-steering-committee-psc-list

Thanks,
Andreas

On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 14:22, landcons...@freenet.de 
wrote:

> Dear List, dear Andreas,
>
> Andreas, before you close this thread, a final general comment: since 7
> years I am teaching my students at the University in Freiburg that Open
> Source is more than an IT project, it is a movement, that will change the
> world, including values like transparency, participation, shared
> information and first of all freedom and peace. And the QGIS project and
> its vital and global community is a lighthouse project representing all
> these values.
>
> Many commited QGIS users share these values with the rest of the world,
> and therefore show deep solidarity with the Ukraine.
>
> So, here is another - more passive - proposal, how we could address the
> raid on Ukraine adequately: let´s name the next QGIS release "Ukraine" or
> "Kiev" to express the solidarity with the people in Ukraine and their fight
> for freedom.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Markus
>
> Am 25.02.2022 um 11:48 schrieb Andreas Neumann:
>
> Hi all,
>
> May I suggest that we stop this thread here - and try to fight the Russian
> aggression in different ways / different channels? This is not the right
> channel to make a meaningful difference in this horrible war.
>
> As an example, we can try to influence / put some pressure on our local
> governments. Both the German and the Swiss governments are blocking more
> effective sanctions on Russia. By not buying Russian energy and raw
> materials and by freezing bank accounts of Russian oligarchs who support
> this war - this is where we can make a difference. So the pressure needs to
> be put on our European governments - and not in the QGIS user community.
>
> As an example: in Berne / Switzerland there will be a demonstration
> tomorrow at noon to put pressure on our Swiss government to freeze Russian
> bank accounts and to prohibit raw material trading (a lot of Russian raw
> materials are traded in Switzerland). I believe this is where we can make a
> difference.
>
> Wish you all the best,
> Andreas
>
> On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 10:50, landcons...@freenet.de <
> landcons...@freenet.de> wrote:
>
>> Dear Andreas, dear list,
>>
>> Andreas, you wrote "*If we start excluding countries and organizations
>> on such assumptions*" I wished you could understand that Putin´s
>> aggression is not stopping in Ukraina (starting in Afghanistan, Chechnya,
>> Georgia, Syria, Ukraina, ...whats next). The only non-atomic power that can
>> stop this is the Russian people.
>>
>> And yes, I know, Russia is not a democracy, and maybe some Russians are
>> "suffering from Putin´s politics" (if it were the "majority" like you say,
>> I had no need to write this letter and Putin never dared to invade the
>> Ukraine).
>>
>> I can also imagine, that many of the Russian QGIS users really appreciate
>> the freedom they feel when they co-operate with the QGIS community. But I
>> am sure the invasion of their army into Ukraine is not a reason for them to
>> start thinking about the legality to kill civilians in independant
>> neighbouring countries.
>>
>> It´s not a reason unless we (the free, democratic and peaceful QGIS
>> community) give them such a reason, which is the boycott of Russian members
>> as long as their troops are in the Ukraine.
>>
>> And, Andreas, when you are asking where to draw a "*red line*", you are
>> not seriously comparing the bombing of Kiev with the "oil exploration" 
>> This is cynical.
>>
>> We must not be passive and hoping "*that this situation can soon be
>> deescalated*" is not enough. The time is now to make it absolutely clear
>> that military force against democratic countries will have consequences for
>> the agressors.
>>
>> And finally to all Russian QGIS users: I like your country and your
>> culture and really appreciate all Russian colleagues I met in the scope of
>> my professional work, this includes all the great QGIS Plugins and Tools
>> that came from you.
>> Please help us to stop this war and make your contribution to secure
>> freedom and peace in Europe and wordlwide!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Markus
>>
>> Am 24.02.2022 um 13:29 schrieb Andreas Neumann:
>>
>> Dear Markus,
>>
>> This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree that
>> the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am against
>> excluding Russian QGIS 

Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[landcons...@freenet.de]

Dear List, dear Andreas,

Andreas, before you close this thread, a final general comment: since 7 
years I am teaching my students at the University in Freiburg that Open 
Source is more than an IT project, it is a movement, that will change 
the world, including values like transparency, participation, shared 
information and first of all freedom and peace. And the QGIS project and 
its vital and global community is a lighthouse project representing all 
these values.


Many commited QGIS users share these values with the rest of the world, 
and therefore show deep solidarity with the Ukraine.


So, here is another - more passive - proposal, how we could address the 
raid on Ukraine adequately: let´s name the next QGIS release "Ukraine" 
or "Kiev" to express the solidarity with the people in Ukraine and their 
fight for freedom.


What do you think?

Best regards,

Markus


Am 25.02.2022 um 11:48 schrieb Andreas Neumann:

Hi all,

May I suggest that we stop this thread here - and try to fight the 
Russian aggression in different ways / different channels? This is not 
the right channel to make a meaningful difference in this horrible war.


As an example, we can try to influence / put some pressure on our 
local governments. Both the German and the Swiss governments are 
blocking more effective sanctions on Russia. By not buying Russian 
energy and raw materials and by freezing bank accounts of Russian 
oligarchs who support this war - this is where we can make a 
difference. So the pressure needs to be put on our European 
governments - and not in the QGIS user community.


As an example: in Berne / Switzerland there will be a demonstration 
tomorrow at noon to put pressure on our Swiss government to freeze 
Russian bank accounts and to prohibit raw material trading (a lot of 
Russian raw materials are traded in Switzerland). I believe this is 
where we can make a difference.


Wish you all the best,
Andreas

On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 10:50, landcons...@freenet.de 
 wrote:


Dear Andreas, dear list,

Andreas, you wrote "/If we start excluding countries and
organizations on such assumptions/" I wished you could understand
that Putin´s aggression is not stopping in Ukraina (starting in
Afghanistan, Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, Ukraina, ...whats next).
The only non-atomic power that can stop this is the Russian people.

And yes, I know, Russia is not a democracy, and maybe some
Russians are "suffering from Putin´s politics" (if it were the
"majority" like you say, I had no need to write this letter and
Putin never dared to invade the Ukraine).

I can also imagine, that many of the Russian QGIS users really
appreciate the freedom they feel when they co-operate with the
QGIS community. But I am sure the invasion of their army into
Ukraine is not a reason for them to start thinking about the
legality to kill civilians in independant neighbouring countries.

It´s not a reason unless we (the free, democratic and peaceful
QGIS community) give them such a reason, which is the boycott of
Russian members as long as their troops are in the Ukraine.

And, Andreas, when you are asking where to draw a "/red line/",
you are not seriously comparing the bombing of Kiev with the "oil
exploration"  This is cynical.

We must not be passive and hoping "/that this situation can soon
be deescalated/" is not enough. The time is now to make it
absolutely clear that military force against democratic countries
will have consequences for the agressors.

And finally to all Russian QGIS users: I like your country and
your culture and really appreciate all Russian colleagues I met in
the scope of my professional work, this includes all the great
QGIS Plugins and Tools that came from you.
Please help us to stop this war and make your contribution to
secure freedom and peace in Europe and wordlwide!

Best regards,

Markus


Am 24.02.2022 um 13:29 schrieb Andreas Neumann:

Dear Markus,

This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I
agree that the aggression from the Putin regime should be
condemned, I am against excluding Russian QGIS contributors and
sustaining members. If we start excluding countries and
organizations on such assumptions - where do we draw the line?
The majority of today's world population unfortunately has to
live in problematic conditions, when it concerns democracy and
dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what is
ethical use of QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing
QGIS software allowed, as an example?

As the current QGIS.ORG  treasurer I can say
that we had a sustaining member from Russia last year - there is
no indication that this company is collaborating with the Putin
government - though it is of course a bit hard to judge - of
course - for outsiders.

The 

Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Andreas Neumann]

Hi all,

May I suggest that we stop this thread here - and try to fight the Russian
aggression in different ways / different channels? This is not the right
channel to make a meaningful difference in this horrible war.

As an example, we can try to influence / put some pressure on our local
governments. Both the German and the Swiss governments are blocking more
effective sanctions on Russia. By not buying Russian energy and raw
materials and by freezing bank accounts of Russian oligarchs who support
this war - this is where we can make a difference. So the pressure needs to
be put on our European governments - and not in the QGIS user community.

As an example: in Berne / Switzerland there will be a demonstration
tomorrow at noon to put pressure on our Swiss government to freeze Russian
bank accounts and to prohibit raw material trading (a lot of Russian raw
materials are traded in Switzerland). I believe this is where we can make a
difference.

Wish you all the best,
Andreas

On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 10:50, landcons...@freenet.de 
wrote:

> Dear Andreas, dear list,
>
> Andreas, you wrote "*If we start excluding countries and organizations on
> such assumptions*" I wished you could understand that Putin´s aggression
> is not stopping in Ukraina (starting in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Georgia,
> Syria, Ukraina, ...whats next). The only non-atomic power that can stop
> this is the Russian people.
>
> And yes, I know, Russia is not a democracy, and maybe some Russians are
> "suffering from Putin´s politics" (if it were the "majority" like you say,
> I had no need to write this letter and Putin never dared to invade the
> Ukraine).
>
> I can also imagine, that many of the Russian QGIS users really appreciate
> the freedom they feel when they co-operate with the QGIS community. But I
> am sure the invasion of their army into Ukraine is not a reason for them to
> start thinking about the legality to kill civilians in independant
> neighbouring countries.
>
> It´s not a reason unless we (the free, democratic and peaceful QGIS
> community) give them such a reason, which is the boycott of Russian members
> as long as their troops are in the Ukraine.
>
> And, Andreas, when you are asking where to draw a "*red line*", you are
> not seriously comparing the bombing of Kiev with the "oil exploration" 
> This is cynical.
>
> We must not be passive and hoping "*that this situation can soon be
> deescalated*" is not enough. The time is now to make it absolutely clear
> that military force against democratic countries will have consequences for
> the agressors.
>
> And finally to all Russian QGIS users: I like your country and your
> culture and really appreciate all Russian colleagues I met in the scope of
> my professional work, this includes all the great QGIS Plugins and Tools
> that came from you.
> Please help us to stop this war and make your contribution to secure
> freedom and peace in Europe and wordlwide!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Markus
>
> Am 24.02.2022 um 13:29 schrieb Andreas Neumann:
>
> Dear Markus,
>
> This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree that
> the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am against
> excluding Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If we start
> excluding countries and organizations on such assumptions - where do we
> draw the line? The majority of today's world population unfortunately has
> to live in problematic conditions, when it concerns democracy and
> dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what is ethical use of
> QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing QGIS software allowed, as
> an example?
>
> As the current QGIS.ORG treasurer I can say that we had a sustaining
> member from Russia last year - there is no indication that this company is
> collaborating with the Putin government - though it is of course a bit hard
> to judge - of course - for outsiders.
>
> The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from
> Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian population
> would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be involved in such war
> and aggression. But do they have a real choice? Fair elections? I doubt it
> ... In that sense I am against excluding Russian QGIS users and
> contributors based on these events.
>
> We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by this
> aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian refugees in
> the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can soon be
> deescalated.
>
> Greetings,
> Andreas
>
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, landcons...@freenet.de <
> landcons...@freenet.de> wrote:
>
>> Dear List,
>>
>> like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian invasion
>> in Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free world and especially
>> on Europe and on all values of freedom which we all represent in a global,
>> peaceful open source community.
>>
>> - So, what can e

Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Rémi Andreoli]

Dear Markus,

Dear list,

It takes a lot of courage to have carried this voice which unfortunately 
seems to be lacking among our compatriots in Western countries.
I also read Alexander's Despair. How can we be indifferent to what 
happens? How can we not see the threat hanging over us all?


Giving money doesn't give the right to pay our silence or inaction.

As our coward governments do not want to fight to protect a neighbour 
who just wants to have the same values and right as us, who wants to 
choose its own destiny, it is our duty to fight with all our strength 
and with all the means at our disposal.


We have to remember that freedom is not priceless, our fathers and grand 
fathers have fight for it. And unfortunalty, it is maybe the time for us 
to do the same.


So I agree with you Markus.

Remi

Le 2022-02-25 20:50, landcons...@freenet.de a écrit :


Dear Andreas, dear list,

Andreas, you wrote "_If we start excluding countries and organizations 
on such assumptions_" I wished you could understand that Putin´s 
aggression is not stopping in Ukraina (starting in Afghanistan, 
Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, Ukraina, ...whats next). The only non-atomic 
power that can stop this is the Russian people.


And yes, I know, Russia is not a democracy, and maybe some Russians are 
"suffering from Putin´s politics" (if it were the "majority" like you 
say, I had no need to write this letter and Putin never dared to invade 
the Ukraine).


I can also imagine, that many of the Russian QGIS users really 
appreciate the freedom they feel when they co-operate with the QGIS 
community. But I am sure the invasion of their army into Ukraine is not 
a reason for them to start thinking about the legality to kill 
civilians in independant neighbouring countries.


It´s not a reason unless we (the free, democratic and peaceful QGIS 
community) give them such a reason, which is the boycott of Russian 
members as long as their troops are in the Ukraine.


And, Andreas, when you are asking where to draw a "_red line_", you are 
not seriously comparing the bombing of Kiev with the "oil exploration" 
 This is cynical.


We must not be passive and hoping "_that this situation can soon be 
deescalated_" is not enough. The time is now to make it absolutely 
clear that military force against democratic countries will have 
consequences for the agressors.


And finally to all Russian QGIS users: I like your country and your 
culture and really appreciate all Russian colleagues I met in the scope 
of my professional work, this includes all the great QGIS Plugins and 
Tools that came from you.
Please help us to stop this war and make your contribution to secure 
freedom and peace in Europe and wordlwide!


Best regards,

Markus
Am 24.02.2022 um 13:29 schrieb Andreas Neumann:

Dear Markus,

This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree 
that the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am 
against excluding Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If 
we start excluding countries and organizations on such assumptions - 
where do we draw the line? The majority of today's world population 
unfortunately has to live in problematic conditions, when it concerns 
democracy and dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what 
is ethical use of QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing QGIS 
software allowed, as an example?


As the current QGIS.ORG [1] treasurer I can say that we had a 
sustaining member from Russia last year - there is no indication that 
this company is collaborating with the Putin government - though it is 
of course a bit hard to judge - of course - for outsiders.


The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from 
Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian 
population would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be 
involved in such war and aggression. But do they have a real choice? 
Fair elections? I doubt it ... In that sense I am against excluding 
Russian QGIS users and contributors based on these events.


We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by 
this aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian 
refugees in the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can 
soon be deescalated.


Greetings,
Andreas

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, landcons...@freenet.de 
 wrote:


Dear List,

like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian 
invasion in Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free world 
and especially on Europe and on all values of freedom which we all 
represent in a global, peaceful open source community.


- So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom?
- What can the QGIS community do?
- How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be used for 
Russian military purposes against the Ukraine?


The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament which is 
the representative body of the Russia

Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[landcons...@freenet.de]

Dear Andreas, dear list,

Andreas, you wrote "/If we start excluding countries and organizations 
on such assumptions/" I wished you could understand that Putin´s 
aggression is not stopping in Ukraina (starting in Afghanistan, 
Chechnya, Georgia, Syria, Ukraina, ...whats next). The only non-atomic 
power that can stop this is the Russian people.


And yes, I know, Russia is not a democracy, and maybe some Russians are 
"suffering from Putin´s politics" (if it were the "majority" like you 
say, I had no need to write this letter and Putin never dared to invade 
the Ukraine).


I can also imagine, that many of the Russian QGIS users really 
appreciate the freedom they feel when they co-operate with the QGIS 
community. But I am sure the invasion of their army into Ukraine is not 
a reason for them to start thinking about the legality to kill civilians 
in independant neighbouring countries.


It´s not a reason unless we (the free, democratic and peaceful QGIS 
community) give them such a reason, which is the boycott of Russian 
members as long as their troops are in the Ukraine.


And, Andreas, when you are asking where to draw a "/red line/", you are 
not seriously comparing the bombing of Kiev with the "oil exploration" 
 This is cynical.


We must not be passive and hoping "/that this situation can soon be 
deescalated/" is not enough. The time is now to make it absolutely clear 
that military force against democratic countries will have consequences 
for the agressors.


And finally to all Russian QGIS users: I like your country and your 
culture and really appreciate all Russian colleagues I met in the scope 
of my professional work, this includes all the great QGIS Plugins and 
Tools that came from you.
Please help us to stop this war and make your contribution to secure 
freedom and peace in Europe and wordlwide!


Best regards,

Markus


Am 24.02.2022 um 13:29 schrieb Andreas Neumann:

Dear Markus,

This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree 
that the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am 
against excluding Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If 
we start excluding countries and organizations on such assumptions - 
where do we draw the line? The majority of today's world population 
unfortunately has to live in problematic conditions, when it concerns 
democracy and dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what 
is ethical use of QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing QGIS 
software allowed, as an example?


As the current QGIS.ORG  treasurer I can say that we 
had a sustaining member from Russia last year - there is no indication 
that this company is collaborating with the Putin government - though 
it is of course a bit hard to judge - of course - for outsiders.


The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from 
Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian 
population would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be 
involved in such war and aggression. But do they have a real choice? 
Fair elections? I doubt it ... In that sense I am against excluding 
Russian QGIS users and contributors based on these events.


We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by 
this aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian 
refugees in the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can 
soon be deescalated.


Greetings,
Andreas

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, landcons...@freenet.de 
 wrote:


Dear List,

like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian
invasion in Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free
world and especially on Europe and on all values of freedom which
we all represent in a global, peaceful open source community.

- So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom?
- What can the QGIS community do?
- How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be
used for Russian military purposes against the Ukraine?

The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament
which is the representative body of the Russian people.
Consequently the Russian population bears responsibility for the
invasion and we should led them know, that military force against
an independent, free and democratic European country goes against
all the values ​​we stand for in the open source community.

The least we can do is starting to think about a boycott of
Russian products and Russian co-operations to express our opinion
to all Russian companies and partners we know. Finally its up to
the ordinary Russian man to change this unbearable situation which
is becoming a permanent threat to free Europe.

With this respect the QGIS developer community should also think
about excluding Russian partners and sponsors from all QGIS
activities as long as Russian troops are in the Ukraine.

I think, the

Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Ari Meyer]

Thank you for posting here, Alexander.  Sending prayers for you and your
countrymen.
Ari

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:55 PM Alexander Bruy 
wrote:

> Thanks Markus and all those who support us and have bravery to name
> things with their real names.
>
> For those who want to make business as usual even during the hot phase
> of war I wish you will never
> experience their friendship, welcomeness and cooperation.
>
> Greetings from burning Ukraine, which is already "a better, more free
> place".
>
> пт, 25 лют. 2022 р. о 01:27 Shinoto, PD Dr. Maria
>  пише:
> >
> > Dear Markus, Andreas, and dear list,
> >
> > yesterday evening I saw Markus post, and planned to send a reply this
> morning because it was worth a second thought.
> >
> > I can understand Markus feelings, but I am, like the others, more on
> Andreas' side of opinion. I want to thank Markus for your courage to bring
> this topic to a discussion. It needs courage, and I appreciate both of your
> posts very much.
> >
> > Wishing peace for Ukraina, and a just and good peace at that.
> >
> > Greetings from Japan,
> > Maria
> >
> >
> > > Am 24.02.2022 um 21:29 schrieb Andreas Neumann :
> > >
> > > Dear Markus,
> > >
> > > This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree
> that the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am against
> excluding Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If we start
> excluding countries and organizations on such assumptions - where do we
> draw the line? The majority of today's world population unfortunately has
> to live in problematic conditions, when it concerns democracy and
> dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what is ethical use of
> QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing QGIS software allowed, as
> an example?
> > >
> > > As the current QGIS.ORG treasurer I can say that we had a sustaining
> member from Russia last year - there is no indication that this company is
> collaborating with the Putin government - though it is of course a bit hard
> to judge - of course - for outsiders.
> > >
> > > The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from
> Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian population
> would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be involved in such war
> and aggression. But do they have a real choice? Fair elections? I doubt it
> ... In that sense I am against excluding Russian QGIS users and
> contributors based on these events.
> > >
> > > We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by
> this aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian
> refugees in the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can soon
> be deescalated.
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Andreas
> > >
> > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, landcons...@freenet.de <
> landcons...@freenet.de> wrote:
> > > Dear List,
> > >
> > > like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian
> invasion in Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free world and
> especially on Europe and on all values of freedom which we all represent in
> a global, peaceful open source community.
> > >
> > > - So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom?
> > > - What can the QGIS community do?
> > > - How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be used
> for Russian military purposes against the Ukraine?
> > >
> > > The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament which
> is the representative body of the Russian people. Consequently the Russian
> population bears responsibility for the invasion and we should led them
> know, that military force against an independent, free and democratic
> European country goes against all the values we stand for in the open
> source community.
> > >
> > > The least we can do is starting to think about a boycott of Russian
> products and Russian co-operations to express our opinion to all Russian
> companies and partners we know. Finally its up to the ordinary Russian man
> to change this unbearable situation which is becoming a permanent threat to
> free Europe.
> > >
> > > With this respect the QGIS developer community should also think about
> excluding Russian partners and sponsors from all QGIS activities as long as
> Russian troops are in the Ukraine.
> > >
> > > I think, the values of freedom we stand for, is the highest good we
> must defend!
> > >
> > > How do you think about it?
> > >
> > > Very concerned greeting.
> > >
> > > Markus Weidenbach
> > > landConsult.de
> > > Bühl/Germany
> > >
> > > ___
> > > Qgis-user mailing list
> > > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
> > > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
> > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andreas Neumann
> > > QGIS.ORG board member (treasurer)
> > > ___
> > > Qgis-user mailing 

Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Shinoto, PD Dr. Maria]

Yes, this is not the time for business as usual. 
Not knowing what to do from far away in Japan, but thinking of you all since 
yesterday all day long, 
Maria -- sure, I am not the only one who feels like that!


> Am 25.02.2022 um 13:55 schrieb Alexander Bruy :
> 
> Thanks Markus and all those who support us and have bravery to name
> things with their real names.
> 
> For those who want to make business as usual even during the hot phase
> of war I wish you will never
> experience their friendship, welcomeness and cooperation.
> 
> Greetings from burning Ukraine, which is already "a better, more free place".
> 
> пт, 25 лют. 2022 р. о 01:27 Shinoto, PD Dr. Maria
>  пише:
>> 
>> Dear Markus, Andreas, and dear list,
>> 
>> yesterday evening I saw Markus post, and planned to send a reply this 
>> morning because it was worth a second thought.
>> 
>> I can understand Markus feelings, but I am, like the others, more on 
>> Andreas' side of opinion. I want to thank Markus for your courage to bring 
>> this topic to a discussion. It needs courage, and I appreciate both of your 
>> posts very much.
>> 
>> Wishing peace for Ukraina, and a just and good peace at that.
>> 
>> Greetings from Japan,
>> Maria
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 24.02.2022 um 21:29 schrieb Andreas Neumann :
>>> 
>>> Dear Markus,
>>> 
>>> This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree that 
>>> the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am against 
>>> excluding Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If we start 
>>> excluding countries and organizations on such assumptions - where do we 
>>> draw the line? The majority of today's world population unfortunately has 
>>> to live in problematic conditions, when it concerns democracy and 
>>> dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what is ethical use of 
>>> QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing QGIS software allowed, as 
>>> an example?
>>> 
>>> As the current QGIS.ORG treasurer I can say that we had a sustaining member 
>>> from Russia last year - there is no indication that this company is 
>>> collaborating with the Putin government - though it is of course a bit hard 
>>> to judge - of course - for outsiders.
>>> 
>>> The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from 
>>> Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian population 
>>> would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be involved in such war 
>>> and aggression. But do they have a real choice? Fair elections? I doubt it 
>>> ... In that sense I am against excluding Russian QGIS users and 
>>> contributors based on these events.
>>> 
>>> We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by this 
>>> aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian refugees in 
>>> the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can soon be 
>>> deescalated.
>>> 
>>> Greetings,
>>> Andreas
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, landcons...@freenet.de 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Dear List,
>>> 
>>> like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian invasion in 
>>> Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free world and especially on 
>>> Europe and on all values of freedom which we all represent in a global, 
>>> peaceful open source community.
>>> 
>>> - So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom?
>>> - What can the QGIS community do?
>>> - How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be used for 
>>> Russian military purposes against the Ukraine?
>>> 
>>> The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament which is the 
>>> representative body of the Russian people. Consequently the Russian 
>>> population bears responsibility for the invasion and we should led them 
>>> know, that military force against an independent, free and democratic 
>>> European country goes against all the values we stand for in the open 
>>> source community.
>>> 
>>> The least we can do is starting to think about a boycott of Russian 
>>> products and Russian co-operations to express our opinion to all Russian 
>>> companies and partners we know. Finally its up to the ordinary Russian man 
>>> to change this unbearable situation which is becoming a permanent threat to 
>>> free Europe.
>>> 
>>> With this respect the QGIS developer community should also think about 
>>> excluding Russian partners and sponsors from all QGIS activities as long as 
>>> Russian troops are in the Ukraine.
>>> 
>>> I think, the values of freedom we stand for, is the highest good we must 
>>> defend!
>>> 
>>> How do you think about it?
>>> 
>>> Very concerned greeting.
>>> 
>>> Markus Weidenbach
>>> landConsult.de
>>> Bühl/Germany
>>> 
>>> ___
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>>> Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
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>>> --
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Alexander Bruy]

Thanks Markus and all those who support us and have bravery to name
things with their real names.

For those who want to make business as usual even during the hot phase
of war I wish you will never
experience their friendship, welcomeness and cooperation.

Greetings from burning Ukraine, which is already "a better, more free place".

пт, 25 лют. 2022 р. о 01:27 Shinoto, PD Dr. Maria
 пише:
>
> Dear Markus, Andreas, and dear list,
>
> yesterday evening I saw Markus post, and planned to send a reply this morning 
> because it was worth a second thought.
>
> I can understand Markus feelings, but I am, like the others, more on Andreas' 
> side of opinion. I want to thank Markus for your courage to bring this topic 
> to a discussion. It needs courage, and I appreciate both of your posts very 
> much.
>
> Wishing peace for Ukraina, and a just and good peace at that.
>
> Greetings from Japan,
> Maria
>
>
> > Am 24.02.2022 um 21:29 schrieb Andreas Neumann :
> >
> > Dear Markus,
> >
> > This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree that 
> > the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am against 
> > excluding Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If we start 
> > excluding countries and organizations on such assumptions - where do we 
> > draw the line? The majority of today's world population unfortunately has 
> > to live in problematic conditions, when it concerns democracy and 
> > dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what is ethical use of 
> > QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing QGIS software allowed, as 
> > an example?
> >
> > As the current QGIS.ORG treasurer I can say that we had a sustaining member 
> > from Russia last year - there is no indication that this company is 
> > collaborating with the Putin government - though it is of course a bit hard 
> > to judge - of course - for outsiders.
> >
> > The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from 
> > Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian population 
> > would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be involved in such war 
> > and aggression. But do they have a real choice? Fair elections? I doubt it 
> > ... In that sense I am against excluding Russian QGIS users and 
> > contributors based on these events.
> >
> > We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by this 
> > aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian refugees in 
> > the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can soon be 
> > deescalated.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Andreas
> >
> > On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, landcons...@freenet.de 
> >  wrote:
> > Dear List,
> >
> > like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian invasion in 
> > Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free world and especially on 
> > Europe and on all values of freedom which we all represent in a global, 
> > peaceful open source community.
> >
> > - So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom?
> > - What can the QGIS community do?
> > - How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be used for 
> > Russian military purposes against the Ukraine?
> >
> > The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament which is the 
> > representative body of the Russian people. Consequently the Russian 
> > population bears responsibility for the invasion and we should led them 
> > know, that military force against an independent, free and democratic 
> > European country goes against all the values we stand for in the open 
> > source community.
> >
> > The least we can do is starting to think about a boycott of Russian 
> > products and Russian co-operations to express our opinion to all Russian 
> > companies and partners we know. Finally its up to the ordinary Russian man 
> > to change this unbearable situation which is becoming a permanent threat to 
> > free Europe.
> >
> > With this respect the QGIS developer community should also think about 
> > excluding Russian partners and sponsors from all QGIS activities as long as 
> > Russian troops are in the Ukraine.
> >
> > I think, the values of freedom we stand for, is the highest good we must 
> > defend!
> >
> > How do you think about it?
> >
> > Very concerned greeting.
> >
> > Markus Weidenbach
> > landConsult.de
> > Bühl/Germany
> >
> > ___
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> > Qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
> > List info: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/qgis-user
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> > QGIS.ORG board member (treasurer)
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Shinoto, PD Dr. Maria]

Dear Markus, Andreas, and dear list, 

yesterday evening I saw Markus post, and planned to send a reply this morning 
because it was worth a second thought. 

I can understand Markus feelings, but I am, like the others, more on Andreas' 
side of opinion. I want to thank Markus for your courage to bring this topic to 
a discussion. It needs courage, and I appreciate both of your posts very much. 

Wishing peace for Ukraina, and a just and good peace at that. 

Greetings from Japan, 
Maria


> Am 24.02.2022 um 21:29 schrieb Andreas Neumann :
> 
> Dear Markus,
> 
> This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree that the 
> aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am against excluding 
> Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If we start excluding 
> countries and organizations on such assumptions - where do we draw the line? 
> The majority of today's world population unfortunately has to live in 
> problematic conditions, when it concerns democracy and dictators. Also - 
> where should be draw the line on what is ethical use of QGIS and what not? Is 
> oil exploration utilizing QGIS software allowed, as an example?
> 
> As the current QGIS.ORG treasurer I can say that we had a sustaining member 
> from Russia last year - there is no indication that this company is 
> collaborating with the Putin government - though it is of course a bit hard 
> to judge - of course - for outsiders.
> 
> The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from 
> Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian population 
> would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be involved in such war 
> and aggression. But do they have a real choice? Fair elections? I doubt it 
> ... In that sense I am against excluding Russian QGIS users and contributors 
> based on these events.
> 
> We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by this 
> aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian refugees in 
> the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can soon be 
> deescalated.
> 
> Greetings,
> Andreas
> 
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, landcons...@freenet.de  
> wrote:
> Dear List,
> 
> like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian invasion in 
> Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free world and especially on 
> Europe and on all values of freedom which we all represent in a global, 
> peaceful open source community.
> 
> - So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom? 
> - What can the QGIS community do?
> - How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be used for 
> Russian military purposes against the Ukraine?
> 
> The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament which is the 
> representative body of the Russian people. Consequently the Russian 
> population bears responsibility for the invasion and we should led them know, 
> that military force against an independent, free and democratic European 
> country goes against all the values ​​we stand for in the open source 
> community.
> 
> The least we can do is starting to think about a boycott of Russian products 
> and Russian co-operations to express our opinion to all Russian companies and 
> partners we know. Finally its up to the ordinary Russian man to change this 
> unbearable situation which is becoming a permanent threat to free Europe.   
> 
> With this respect the QGIS developer community should also think about 
> excluding Russian partners and sponsors from all QGIS activities as long as 
> Russian troops are in the Ukraine. 
> 
> I think, the values of freedom we stand for, is the highest good we must 
> defend!
> 
> How do you think about it?
> 
> Very concerned greeting.
> 
> Markus Weidenbach
> landConsult.de
> Bühl/Germany
> 
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> 
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> 
> --
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> QGIS.ORG board member (treasurer)
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Jeff Sonnentag]

Yes, let us all make lists of all the things we want people to condemn before 
they can participate in QGIS support and development. . . . (NOT!)


From: Ari Meyer 
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 1:18 PM
To: Jeff Sonnentag 
Cc: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

I do agree that such a boycott is problematic, in the same way that boycotting 
apolitical Chinese organizations for China's crimes against humanity is 
problematic.  But I do agree with Markus that Russia's actions here are 
abominable.  I think a reasonable compromise, FWIW, could be that Russian QGIS 
devs/users, at least those in the diaspora, unequivocally condemn Russian 
aggression and declare solidarity with Ukraine, or make some similar 
declaration.
Ari

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 1:49 PM Jeff Sonnentag 
mailto:jsonnen...@llenviroinc.com>> wrote:
You can have another "Fully agreed with Andreas" from here. . . .

Would you be overjoyed and supportive of a "boycott" of QGIS if it comes out 
anybody in any war is using it for mapping stuff?

People could come up with all kinds of places considered "civilized" that 
went/are way off the tracks on COVID BS.  Want to ban participation of all the 
other people who live under tyrants too?


-Original Message-
From: Qgis-user 
mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org>> 
On Behalf Of Paolo Cavallini
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 4:53 AM
To: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org>
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

Fully agreed with Andreas. We try to make the world a better, more free place 
by developing QGIS with a free and open source licence, let's stick to this and 
welcome any contribution.
Cheers.

Il 24/02/22 13:29, Andreas Neumann ha scritto:
> Dear Markus,
>
> This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree
> that the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am
> against excluding Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If
> we start excluding countries and organizations on such assumptions -
> where do we draw the line? The majority of today's world population
> unfortunately has to live in problematic conditions, when it concerns
> democracy and dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what
> is ethical use of QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing QGIS
> software allowed, as an example?
>
> As the current QGIS.ORG<http://QGIS.ORG> <http://QGIS.ORG> treasurer I can 
> say that we
> had a sustaining member from Russia last year - there is no indication
> that this company is collaborating with the Putin government - though
> it is of course a bit hard to judge - of course - for outsiders.
>
> The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from
> Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian
> population would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be
> involved in such war and aggression. But do they have a real choice?
> Fair elections? I doubt it ... In that sense I am against excluding
> Russian QGIS users and contributors based on these events.
>
> We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by
> this aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian
> refugees in the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can
> soon be deescalated.
>
> Greetings,
> Andreas
>
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, 
> landcons...@freenet.de<mailto:landcons...@freenet.de>
> <mailto:landcons...@freenet.de<mailto:landcons...@freenet.de>> 
> mailto:landcons...@freenet.de>
> <mailto:landcons...@freenet.de<mailto:landcons...@freenet.de>>> wrote:
>
> Dear List,
>
> like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian
> invasion in Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free
> world and especially on Europe and on all values of freedom which we
> all represent in a global, peaceful open source community.
>
> - So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom?
> - What can the QGIS community do?
> - How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be used
> for Russian military purposes against the Ukraine?
>
> The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament which
> is the representative body of the Russian people. Consequently the
> Russian population bears responsibility for the invasion and we
> should led them know, that military force against an independent,
> free and democratic European country goes against all the values ​​
> we stand for in the open source community.
>
> The least we can do is starting to think about a boycott of Russian
>   

Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Ari Meyer]

I do agree that such a boycott is problematic, in the same way that
boycotting apolitical Chinese organizations for China's crimes against
humanity is problematic.  But I do agree with Markus that Russia's actions
here are abominable.  I think a reasonable compromise, FWIW, could be that
Russian QGIS devs/users, at least those in the diaspora,
unequivocally condemn Russian aggression and declare solidarity with
Ukraine, or make some similar declaration.
Ari

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 1:49 PM Jeff Sonnentag 
wrote:

> You can have another "Fully agreed with Andreas" from here. . . .
>
> Would you be overjoyed and supportive of a "boycott" of QGIS if it comes
> out anybody in any war is using it for mapping stuff?
>
> People could come up with all kinds of places considered "civilized" that
> went/are way off the tracks on COVID BS.  Want to ban participation of all
> the other people who live under tyrants too?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Qgis-user  On Behalf Of Paolo
> Cavallini
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 4:53 AM
> To: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia
>
> Fully agreed with Andreas. We try to make the world a better, more free
> place by developing QGIS with a free and open source licence, let's stick
> to this and welcome any contribution.
> Cheers.
>
> Il 24/02/22 13:29, Andreas Neumann ha scritto:
> > Dear Markus,
> >
> > This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree
> > that the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am
> > against excluding Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If
> > we start excluding countries and organizations on such assumptions -
> > where do we draw the line? The majority of today's world population
> > unfortunately has to live in problematic conditions, when it concerns
> > democracy and dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what
> > is ethical use of QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing QGIS
> > software allowed, as an example?
> >
> > As the current QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG> treasurer I can say that we
> > had a sustaining member from Russia last year - there is no indication
> > that this company is collaborating with the Putin government - though
> > it is of course a bit hard to judge - of course - for outsiders.
> >
> > The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from
> > Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian
> > population would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be
> > involved in such war and aggression. But do they have a real choice?
> > Fair elections? I doubt it ... In that sense I am against excluding
> > Russian QGIS users and contributors based on these events.
> >
> > We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by
> > this aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian
> > refugees in the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can
> > soon be deescalated.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Andreas
> >
> > On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, landcons...@freenet.de
> > <mailto:landcons...@freenet.de>  > <mailto:landcons...@freenet.de>> wrote:
> >
> > Dear List,
> >
> > like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian
> > invasion in Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free
> > world and especially on Europe and on all values of freedom which we
> > all represent in a global, peaceful open source community.
> >
> > - So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom?
> > - What can the QGIS community do?
> > - How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be used
> > for Russian military purposes against the Ukraine?
> >
> > The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament which
> > is the representative body of the Russian people. Consequently the
> > Russian population bears responsibility for the invasion and we
> > should led them know, that military force against an independent,
> > free and democratic European country goes against all the values ​​
> > we stand for in the open source community.
> >
> > The least we can do is starting to think about a boycott of Russian
> > products and Russian co-operations to express our opinion to all
> > Russian companies and partners we know. Finally its up to the
> > ordinary Russian man to change this unbearable situation which is
> &

Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Jeff Sonnentag]

You can have another "Fully agreed with Andreas" from here. . . .

Would you be overjoyed and supportive of a "boycott" of QGIS if it comes out 
anybody in any war is using it for mapping stuff?

People could come up with all kinds of places considered "civilized" that 
went/are way off the tracks on COVID BS.  Want to ban participation of all the 
other people who live under tyrants too?


-Original Message-
From: Qgis-user  On Behalf Of Paolo Cavallini
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 4:53 AM
To: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

Fully agreed with Andreas. We try to make the world a better, more free place 
by developing QGIS with a free and open source licence, let's stick to this and 
welcome any contribution.
Cheers.

Il 24/02/22 13:29, Andreas Neumann ha scritto:
> Dear Markus,
> 
> This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree 
> that the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am 
> against excluding Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If 
> we start excluding countries and organizations on such assumptions - 
> where do we draw the line? The majority of today's world population 
> unfortunately has to live in problematic conditions, when it concerns 
> democracy and dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what 
> is ethical use of QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing QGIS 
> software allowed, as an example?
> 
> As the current QGIS.ORG <http://QGIS.ORG> treasurer I can say that we 
> had a sustaining member from Russia last year - there is no indication 
> that this company is collaborating with the Putin government - though 
> it is of course a bit hard to judge - of course - for outsiders.
> 
> The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from 
> Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian 
> population would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be 
> involved in such war and aggression. But do they have a real choice?
> Fair elections? I doubt it ... In that sense I am against excluding 
> Russian QGIS users and contributors based on these events.
> 
> We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by 
> this aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian 
> refugees in the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can 
> soon be deescalated.
> 
> Greetings,
> Andreas
> 
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, landcons...@freenet.de 
> <mailto:landcons...@freenet.de>  <mailto:landcons...@freenet.de>> wrote:
> 
> Dear List,
> 
> like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian
> invasion in Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free
> world and especially on Europe and on all values of freedom which we
> all represent in a global, peaceful open source community.
> 
> - So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom?
> - What can the QGIS community do?
> - How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be used
> for Russian military purposes against the Ukraine?
> 
> The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament which
> is the representative body of the Russian people. Consequently the
> Russian population bears responsibility for the invasion and we
> should led them know, that military force against an independent,
> free and democratic European country goes against all the values ​​
> we stand for in the open source community.
> 
> The least we can do is starting to think about a boycott of Russian
> products and Russian co-operations to express our opinion to all
> Russian companies and partners we know. Finally its up to the
> ordinary Russian man to change this unbearable situation which is
> becoming a permanent threat to free Europe.
> 
> With this respect the QGIS developer community should also think
> about excluding Russian partners and sponsors from all QGIS
> activities as long as Russian troops are in the Ukraine.
> 
> I think, the values of freedom we stand for, is the highest good we
> must defend!
> 
> How do you think about it?
> 
> Very concerned greeting.
> 
> Markus Weidenbach
> landConsult.de
> Bühl/Germany
> 
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Luca Manganelli]

Remember Crimea?
Russia conquered it, but not without consequences: all russian retirees had
a tax on their retirements.
And now?

-- 





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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Paolo Cavallini]

Fully agreed with Andreas. We try to make the world a better, more free
place by developing QGIS with a free and open source licence, let's
stick to this and welcome any contribution.
Cheers.

Il 24/02/22 13:29, Andreas Neumann ha scritto:
> Dear Markus,
> 
> This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree that
> the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am against
> excluding Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If we start
> excluding countries and organizations on such assumptions - where do we
> draw the line? The majority of today's world population unfortunately
> has to live in problematic conditions, when it concerns democracy and
> dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what is ethical use
> of QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing QGIS software
> allowed, as an example?
> 
> As the current QGIS.ORG  treasurer I can say that we
> had a sustaining member from Russia last year - there is no indication
> that this company is collaborating with the Putin government - though it
> is of course a bit hard to judge - of course - for outsiders.
> 
> The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from
> Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian
> population would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be
> involved in such war and aggression. But do they have a real choice?
> Fair elections? I doubt it ... In that sense I am against excluding
> Russian QGIS users and contributors based on these events.
> 
> We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by this
> aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian refugees
> in the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can soon be
> deescalated.
> 
> Greetings,
> Andreas
> 
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, landcons...@freenet.de
>   > wrote:
> 
> Dear List,
> 
> like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian
> invasion in Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free
> world and especially on Europe and on all values of freedom which we
> all represent in a global, peaceful open source community.
> 
> - So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom?
> - What can the QGIS community do?
> - How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be used
> for Russian military purposes against the Ukraine?
> 
> The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament which
> is the representative body of the Russian people. Consequently the
> Russian population bears responsibility for the invasion and we
> should led them know, that military force against an independent,
> free and democratic European country goes against all the values ​​
> we stand for in the open source community.
> 
> The least we can do is starting to think about a boycott of Russian
> products and Russian co-operations to express our opinion to all
> Russian companies and partners we know. Finally its up to the
> ordinary Russian man to change this unbearable situation which is
> becoming a permanent threat to free Europe.  
> 
> With this respect the QGIS developer community should also think
> about excluding Russian partners and sponsors from all QGIS
> activities as long as Russian troops are in the Ukraine.
> 
> I think, the values of freedom we stand for, is the highest good we
> must defend!
> 
> How do you think about it?
> 
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[Andreas Neumann]

Dear Markus,

This is a really difficult topic that you raise here. While I agree that
the aggression from the Putin regime should be condemned, I am against
excluding Russian QGIS contributors and sustaining members. If we start
excluding countries and organizations on such assumptions - where do we
draw the line? The majority of today's world population unfortunately has
to live in problematic conditions, when it concerns democracy and
dictators. Also - where should be draw the line on what is ethical use of
QGIS and what not? Is oil exploration utilizing QGIS software allowed, as
an example?

As the current QGIS.ORG treasurer I can say that we had a sustaining member
from Russia last year - there is no indication that this company is
collaborating with the Putin government - though it is of course a bit hard
to judge - of course - for outsiders.

The vast majority of the Russian population is probably suffering from
Putin's politics - my guess is that the majority of the Russian population
would like to live in peace and prosperity and not be involved in such war
and aggression. But do they have a real choice? Fair elections? I doubt it
... In that sense I am against excluding Russian QGIS users and
contributors based on these events.

We also have QGIS contributors from Ukraine who are now affected by this
aggression - let's be supportive when there could be Ukrainian refugees in
the coming months - and let's hope that this situation can soon be
deescalated.

Greetings,
Andreas

On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 at 10:09, landcons...@freenet.de 
wrote:

> Dear List,
>
> like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian invasion
> in Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free world and especially
> on Europe and on all values of freedom which we all represent in a global,
> peaceful open source community.
>
> - So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom?
> - What can the QGIS community do?
> - How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be used for
> Russian military purposes against the Ukraine?
>
> The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament which is
> the representative body of the Russian people. Consequently the Russian
> population bears responsibility for the invasion and we should led them
> know, that military force against an independent, free and democratic
> European country goes against all the values ​​we stand for in the open
> source community.
>
> The least we can do is starting to think about a boycott of Russian
> products and Russian co-operations to express our opinion to all Russian
> companies and partners we know. Finally its up to the ordinary Russian man
> to change this unbearable situation which is becoming a permanent threat to
> free Europe.
>
> With this respect the QGIS developer community should also think about
> excluding Russian partners and sponsors from all QGIS activities as long as
> Russian troops are in the Ukraine.
>
> I think, the values of freedom we stand for, is the highest good we must
> defend!
>
> How do you think about it?
>
> Very concerned greeting.
>
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[Qgis-user] Help Ukraine, Boycott Russia

[landcons...@freenet.de]

Dear List,

like all free people in the world I totally condemn the Russian invasion 
in Ukraine this morning. This is an attack on the free world and 
especially on Europe and on all values of freedom which we all represent 
in a global, peaceful open source community.


- So, what can each individual do to defend this freedom?
- What can the QGIS community do?
- How can we be sure, that the know-how we develop will not be used for 
Russian military purposes against the Ukraine?


The invasion was confirmed by the Duma, the Russian parliament which is 
the representative body of the Russian people. Consequently the Russian 
population bears responsibility for the invasion and we should led them 
know, that military force against an independent, free and democratic 
European country goes against all the values ​​we stand for in the open 
source community.


The least we can do is starting to think about a boycott of Russian 
products and Russian co-operations to express our opinion to all Russian 
companies and partners we know. Finally its up to the ordinary Russian 
man to change this unbearable situation which is becoming a permanent 
threat to free Europe.


With this respect the QGIS developer community should also think about 
excluding Russian partners and sponsors from all QGIS activities as long 
as Russian troops are in the Ukraine.


I think, the values of freedom we stand for, is the highest good we must 
defend!


How do you think about it?

Very concerned greeting.

Markus Weidenbach
landConsult.de
Bühl/Germany
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help converting State

[Wolfgang Meinolf]

Hi,
as an alternative you can update the existing coordinate attributes following 
to reprojection also with $x and $y, which updates the existing coordinates 
according to the new CRS.

Best regards from Bavaria
Wolfgang

Von: Qgis-user  Im Auftrag von Bighouse 
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Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. Januar 2022 18:34
An: Andrea Giudiceandrea 
Cc: qgis-user 
Betreff: Re: [Qgis-user] Help converting State

Thanks Andrea! GEOMETRY: AS_XY  - that did the trick for me. That was a long 24 
hours trying to figure it out :-)

You rock! Thanks a lot.
D.

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On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 4:16 AM Andrea Giudiceandrea 
mailto:andreaer...@libero.it>> wrote:

Bighouse 
Productions<https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org&q=from:%22Bighouse+Productions%22>
 Mon, 24 Jan 2022 18:37:41 
-0800<https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org&q=date:20220124>

Hi Chris et al. here's a video showing the steps I'm following -- can

someone pinpoint what I'm doing wrong?

https://vimeo.com/669657507/e84405ce12
Hi Doug,
If I understand correctly your "issue" looking at the video, there is probably 
a misunderstanding about how csv / vector layers / reprojection work.

A GIS vector layer stores information about the features geometries (the 
coordinates of each point or vertex) and the features alphanumeric attributes 
(the fields and their values).

A csv file stores alphanumeric attributes.

When you import the csv file in QGIS , since some fields contain values 
representing the coordinates of a point,  it becomes a vector layer in which 
the features geometries are created, on importing, from the values (the 
coordinates) contained in such fields and the features attributes are the same 
attributes stored in the csv file.

Reprojecting a vector layer from a CRS to another one only changes the features 
geometries and not the features attributes.

Exporting a vector layer (with default options) to a csv file only saves its 
alphanumeric attributes.

Does this make sense to you?

Do you need to transform the coordinates values relative to a CRS stored in the 
EAST and NORTH fields of your csv file to the coordinates values relative to 
another CRS and update your EAST and NORTH fields or add new fields with the 
new values and save it as another csv file?

There various ways to obtain the some result.

For example:
- you can select the GEOMETRY: AS_XY layer option in order to add X an Y fields 
to the exported CSV in which the coordinates values are stored relative to the 
CRS set in the CRT option.
- or you can reproject the layer (Processing tool: "Reproject layer") and than 
use the Field Calculator to add new field or updated the EAST and NORTH fields 
with the new coordinates of the points and then save the layer to a CSV file 
with the default options.
- or you can use the Processing tool "Add X/Y fields to layer" to add X and Y 
fields with the coordinates values relative to the desired CRS and then save 
the layer to a CSV file with the default options.

Regards.

Andrea Giudiceandrea
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help converting State

[Bighouse Productions]

Thanks Andrea! GEOMETRY: AS_XY  - that did the trick for me. That was a
long 24 hours trying to figure it out :-)

You rock! Thanks a lot.
D.

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On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 4:16 AM Andrea Giudiceandrea 
wrote:

> Bighouse Productions
> 
>  Mon, 24 Jan 2022 18:37:41 -0800
> 
>
> Hi Chris et al. here's a video showing the steps I'm following -- can
> someone pinpoint what I'm doing wrong?
>
> https://vimeo.com/669657507/e84405ce12
>
> Hi Doug,
> If I understand correctly your "issue" looking at the video, there is
> probably a misunderstanding about how csv / vector layers / reprojection
> work.
>
> A GIS vector layer stores information about the features geometries (the
> coordinates of each point or vertex) and the features alphanumeric
> attributes (the fields and their values).
>
> A csv file stores alphanumeric attributes.
>
> When you import the csv file in QGIS , since some fields contain values
> representing the coordinates of a point,  it becomes a vector layer in
> which the features geometries are created, on importing, from the values
> (the coordinates) contained in such fields and the features attributes are
> the same attributes stored in the csv file.
>
> Reprojecting a vector layer from a CRS to another one only changes the
> features geometries and not the features attributes.
>
> Exporting a vector layer (with default options) to a csv file only saves
> its alphanumeric attributes.
>
> Does this make sense to you?
>
> Do you need to transform the coordinates values relative to a CRS stored
> in the EAST and NORTH fields of your csv file to the coordinates values
> relative to another CRS and update your EAST and NORTH fields or add new
> fields with the new values and save it as another csv file?
>
> There various ways to obtain the some result.
>
> For example:
> - you can select the GEOMETRY: AS_XY layer option in order to add X an Y
> fields to the exported CSV in which the coordinates values are stored
> relative to the CRS set in the CRT option.
> - or you can reproject the layer (Processing tool: "Reproject layer") and
> than use the Field Calculator to add new field or updated the EAST and
> NORTH fields with the new coordinates of the points and then save the layer
> to a CSV file with the default options.
> - or you can use the Processing tool "Add X/Y fields to layer" to add X
> and Y fields with the coordinates values relative to the desired CRS and
> then save the layer to a CSV file with the default options.
>
> Regards.
>
> Andrea Giudiceandrea
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help converting State

[tim dunlevie]

Yeah I do a "long way" around for this.

Add the layer - add delimited text layer(or use the geoprocessing task)
Plot those points in its original projection.
Export that layer to the new grid / projection you want to generate the
coordinates.
Add new fields to this new layer, then use field calculator to generate XY
($x, $y in field calculator).


On Tue, 25 Jan 2022, 7:41 pm Nicolas Cadieux, 
wrote:

> Hi Doug.
>
> QGIS will reproject the data on the fly so you will not “see” (on the
> screen) the difference. Try saving the reprojected file as a .gpkg then use
> the field calculator to create a new x and y field.  That should generate
> new x and y coordinates in the new CRS.
>
> Nicolas Cadieux
> https://gitlab.com/njacadieux
>
> Le 24 janv. 2022 à 19:00, Bighouse Productions <
> d...@bighouseproductions.ca> a écrit :
>
> 
> Bighouse Productions 
> [image: Attachments]3:44 PM (12 minutes ago)
> to chris, qgis-user
> Thanks so much Chris,
>
> I've been trying 6.1.3 for a while now and I can't seem to get the CSV
> file to export & convert from one CRS to the other (NAD27 Nevada East to
> UTM NAD27).
>
> No probs switching the CRS of the document and the coordinates layer...
> but each time I export in the new CRS (EPSG:26711) the saved document is
> exactly as it was when I started. To summarize, here's what I'm doing:
>
> 1. Start a new QGIS file
> 2. Change the CRS to Nevada East NAD27
> 3. Add comma delimited layer & change x to East and y to northing
>
> Everything looks good at this point. Now I just want to convert from NAD27
> Nevada East to NAD 27 UTM... no luck.
>
> From here I've tried a few things:
>
> 1. Export this layer to EPSG:26711. Nothing changes.
> 2. Change project and layer CRS to EPSG:26711 and export as EPSG:26711.
> Nothing changes.
> 2. Various other implementations of the above.
>
> Do you see what I'm doing wrong? I'll paste a link to the file just in
> case you have a chance to have a look at it. Thanks again.
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TsOyNMLqGD8MsnT-UpirMjw7gXxw1_43/view?usp=sharing
>
> Doug.
>
> *Doug Hadfield, *
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>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:58 PM chris hermansen 
> wrote:
>
>> Ooops sorry I only responded to the OP
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:57 PM chris hermansen 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Doug and list,
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:49 PM Bighouse Productions <
>>> d...@bighouseproductions.ca> wrote:
>>>
 Hi there, I'm hoping someone can help me convert State Plane
 Coordinate System, Nevada East NAD27 to UTM NAD27 using QGIS. I have a CSV
 spreadsheet with 1000s of drill holes with Easting and Northing data in
 SPCS Nevada East. Is this doable using QGIS?

 Thanks for any help you can provide!


>>> It sounds like you have point data in a .csv file.
>>>
>>> QGIS has lots of great documentation that can help you do this kind of
>>> task.  For example, you might want to read over this on using spreadsheet
>>> or csv data:
>>>
>>> https://www.qgistutorials.com/en/docs/importing_spreadsheets_csv.html
>>>
>>> and then this on reprojecting
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.qgis.org/3.16/en/docs/training_manual/vector_analysis/reproject_transform.html
>>> especially 6.1.3
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Hermansen · clhermansen "at" gmail "dot" com
>>>
>>> C'est ma façon de parler.
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help converting State

[Nicolas Cadieux]

Hi Doug.

QGIS will reproject the data on the fly so you will not “see” (on the screen) 
the difference. Try saving the reprojected file as a .gpkg then use the field 
calculator to create a new x and y field.  That should generate new x and y 
coordinates in the new CRS.

Nicolas Cadieux
https://gitlab.com/njacadieux

> Le 24 janv. 2022 à 19:00, Bighouse Productions  
> a écrit :
> 
> 
> 
> Bighouse Productions 
> 
> 3:44 PM (12 minutes ago)
> 
> to chris, qgis-user
> Thanks so much Chris, 
> 
> I've been trying 6.1.3 for a while now and I can't seem to get the CSV file 
> to export & convert from one CRS to the other (NAD27 Nevada East to UTM 
> NAD27). 
> 
> No probs switching the CRS of the document and the coordinates layer... but 
> each time I export in the new CRS (EPSG:26711) the saved document is exactly 
> as it was when I started. To summarize, here's what I'm doing: 
> 
> 1. Start a new QGIS file
> 2. Change the CRS to Nevada East NAD27
> 3. Add comma delimited layer & change x to East and y to northing
> 
> Everything looks good at this point. Now I just want to convert from NAD27 
> Nevada East to NAD 27 UTM... no luck. 
> 
> From here I've tried a few things: 
> 
> 1. Export this layer to EPSG:26711. Nothing changes. 
> 2. Change project and layer CRS to EPSG:26711 and export as EPSG:26711. 
> Nothing changes. 
> 2. Various other implementations of the above. 
> 
> Do you see what I'm doing wrong? I'll paste a link to the file just in case 
> you have a chance to have a look at it. Thanks again. 
> 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TsOyNMLqGD8MsnT-UpirMjw7gXxw1_43/view?usp=sharing
> 
> Doug. 
> 
> Doug Hadfield, 
> bighouseproductions.ca
> VRtuous.com
> virtualvideoproductions.com
> Video, Animation, Photography, 3D & VR
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> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:58 PM chris hermansen  
>> wrote:
>> Ooops sorry I only responded to the OP
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:57 PM chris hermansen  
>>> wrote:
>>> Doug and list,
>>> 
 On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:49 PM Bighouse Productions 
  wrote:
 Hi there, I'm hoping someone can help me convert State Plane Coordinate 
 System, Nevada East NAD27 to UTM NAD27 using QGIS. I have a CSV 
 spreadsheet with 1000s of drill holes with Easting and Northing data in 
 SPCS Nevada East. Is this doable using QGIS? 
 
 Thanks for any help you can provide! 
 
>>> 
>>> It sounds like you have point data in a .csv file.
>>> 
>>> QGIS has lots of great documentation that can help you do this kind of 
>>> task.  For example, you might want to read over this on using spreadsheet 
>>> or csv data:
>>> 
>>> https://www.qgistutorials.com/en/docs/importing_spreadsheets_csv.html
>>> 
>>> and then this on reprojecting
>>> 
>>> https://docs.qgis.org/3.16/en/docs/training_manual/vector_analysis/reproject_transform.html
>>>  especially 6.1.3 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Chris Hermansen · clhermansen "at" gmail "dot" com
>>> 
>>> C'est ma façon de parler.
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help converting State

[Bighouse Productions]

Hi Chris et al. here's a video showing the steps I'm following -- can
someone pinpoint what I'm doing wrong?

https://vimeo.com/669657507/e84405ce12

Thanks again!

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*bighouseproductions.ca *
*VRtuous.com *
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On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:58 PM chris hermansen 
wrote:

> Ooops sorry I only responded to the OP
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:57 PM chris hermansen 
> wrote:
>
>> Doug and list,
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:49 PM Bighouse Productions <
>> d...@bighouseproductions.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there, I'm hoping someone can help me convert State Plane Coordinate
>>> System, Nevada East NAD27 to UTM NAD27 using QGIS. I have a CSV spreadsheet
>>> with 1000s of drill holes with Easting and Northing data in SPCS Nevada
>>> East. Is this doable using QGIS?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help you can provide!
>>>
>>>
>> It sounds like you have point data in a .csv file.
>>
>> QGIS has lots of great documentation that can help you do this kind of
>> task.  For example, you might want to read over this on using spreadsheet
>> or csv data:
>>
>> https://www.qgistutorials.com/en/docs/importing_spreadsheets_csv.html
>>
>> and then this on reprojecting
>>
>>
>> https://docs.qgis.org/3.16/en/docs/training_manual/vector_analysis/reproject_transform.html
>> especially 6.1.3
>>
>>
>> --
>> Chris Hermansen · clhermansen "at" gmail "dot" com
>>
>> C'est ma façon de parler.
>>
>
>
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help converting State

[Bighouse Productions]

Bighouse Productions 
[image: Attachments]3:44 PM (12 minutes ago)
to chris, qgis-user
Thanks so much Chris,

I've been trying 6.1.3 for a while now and I can't seem to get the CSV file
to export & convert from one CRS to the other (NAD27 Nevada East to UTM
NAD27).

No probs switching the CRS of the document and the coordinates layer... but
each time I export in the new CRS (EPSG:26711) the saved document is
exactly as it was when I started. To summarize, here's what I'm doing:

1. Start a new QGIS file
2. Change the CRS to Nevada East NAD27
3. Add comma delimited layer & change x to East and y to northing

Everything looks good at this point. Now I just want to convert from NAD27
Nevada East to NAD 27 UTM... no luck.

>From here I've tried a few things:

1. Export this layer to EPSG:26711. Nothing changes.
2. Change project and layer CRS to EPSG:26711 and export as EPSG:26711.
Nothing changes.
2. Various other implementations of the above.

Do you see what I'm doing wrong? I'll paste a link to the file just in case
you have a chance to have a look at it. Thanks again.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TsOyNMLqGD8MsnT-UpirMjw7gXxw1_43/view?usp=sharing

Doug.

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On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:58 PM chris hermansen 
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> Ooops sorry I only responded to the OP
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:57 PM chris hermansen 
> wrote:
>
>> Doug and list,
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:49 PM Bighouse Productions <
>> d...@bighouseproductions.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there, I'm hoping someone can help me convert State Plane Coordinate
>>> System, Nevada East NAD27 to UTM NAD27 using QGIS. I have a CSV spreadsheet
>>> with 1000s of drill holes with Easting and Northing data in SPCS Nevada
>>> East. Is this doable using QGIS?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help you can provide!
>>>
>>>
>> It sounds like you have point data in a .csv file.
>>
>> QGIS has lots of great documentation that can help you do this kind of
>> task.  For example, you might want to read over this on using spreadsheet
>> or csv data:
>>
>> https://www.qgistutorials.com/en/docs/importing_spreadsheets_csv.html
>>
>> and then this on reprojecting
>>
>>
>> https://docs.qgis.org/3.16/en/docs/training_manual/vector_analysis/reproject_transform.html
>> especially 6.1.3
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help converting State

[chris hermansen]

Ooops sorry I only responded to the OP

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:57 PM chris hermansen 
wrote:

> Doug and list,
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:49 PM Bighouse Productions <
> d...@bighouseproductions.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hi there, I'm hoping someone can help me convert State Plane Coordinate
>> System, Nevada East NAD27 to UTM NAD27 using QGIS. I have a CSV spreadsheet
>> with 1000s of drill holes with Easting and Northing data in SPCS Nevada
>> East. Is this doable using QGIS?
>>
>> Thanks for any help you can provide!
>>
>>
> It sounds like you have point data in a .csv file.
>
> QGIS has lots of great documentation that can help you do this kind of
> task.  For example, you might want to read over this on using spreadsheet
> or csv data:
>
> https://www.qgistutorials.com/en/docs/importing_spreadsheets_csv.html
>
> and then this on reprojecting
>
>
> https://docs.qgis.org/3.16/en/docs/training_manual/vector_analysis/reproject_transform.html
> especially 6.1.3
>
>
> --
> Chris Hermansen · clhermansen "at" gmail "dot" com
>
> C'est ma façon de parler.
>


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[Qgis-user] Help converting State

[Bighouse Productions]

Hi there, I'm hoping someone can help me convert State Plane Coordinate
System, Nevada East NAD27 to UTM NAD27 using QGIS. I have a CSV spreadsheet
with 1000s of drill holes with Easting and Northing data in SPCS Nevada
East. Is this doable using QGIS?

Thanks for any help you can provide!


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Re: [Qgis-user] help please

[Sebastian Gutwein]

QGIS can definitely do all of those things. We have been using and loving
the Input app but for your purposes a simpler method might work. If you
have the person on the site take a picture of the machine with their phone
(location services should be turned on) you could then collect all of the
pictures in a folder and use the Import Geotagged Photos tool in QGIS to
bring the photos into QGIS and have a point created at each location. Once
you have a point layer you can add any additional data you like. Here is a
blog post that might be useful.
https://opengislab.com/blog/2020/8/23/mapping-and-viewing-geotagged-photos-in-qgis

On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 3:55 PM Nicolas Cadieux 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Not sure what the question is but yes, these are all very basic things
> that can be done in QGIS with simple queries or spatial queries.  It’s just
> a question on having the data. Would be happy to help out if you need
> training on this kind of thing.
>
> Nicolas Cadieux
> https://gitlab.com/njacadieux
>
> Le 10 oct. 2021 à 20:28, Peter Cramer  a écrit :
>
> 
>
> I have a very basic question about qgis features. Thanks in advance for
> any answers.
>
>
>
> The scenario is that we need to geo locate 6,000 machines in various
> locations throughout Australia.
>
> I person will be onsite at each machine in the exact position of the
> machine.
>
> We want to create a gps position for each machine and save it or record /
> copy it
>
> Create a list of the 6000 machines in a data base
>
> Use this database to display machine placements on maps at level – country
> – state – suburb and or postcode
>
> Select a single machine and see a description of the location and or
> actual zoomed in map vision of the machine location
>
> Zoom out or in to different levels of geographic area size to see all
> machines within the screen view
>
>
>
>
>
> Second priority level of information
>
> Add additional information to each machine. E.g model number and type of
> machine displayed in map via hover or similar function
>
> Select State – suburb or postcode to view all machines withing that
> specific area.
>
> Build a visual presentation of maps for selected specific areas as above
> point.
>
>
>
> I am thinking that if qgis can do these basic things we can add to our
> wish list of features later.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards
>
>
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> *Peter*
>
> *Cramer*
> Director
>
> 
>
>  *0401771863*
>
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>
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>
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Re: [Qgis-user] help please

[Nicolas Cadieux]

Hi,

Not sure what the question is but yes, these are all very basic things that can 
be done in QGIS with simple queries or spatial queries.  It’s just a question 
on having the data. Would be happy to help out if you need training on this 
kind of thing.  

Nicolas Cadieux
https://gitlab.com/njacadieux

> Le 10 oct. 2021 à 20:28, Peter Cramer  a écrit :
> 
> 
> I have a very basic question about qgis features. Thanks in advance for any 
> answers.
>  
> The scenario is that we need to geo locate 6,000 machines in various 
> locations throughout Australia.
> I person will be onsite at each machine in the exact position of the machine.
> We want to create a gps position for each machine and save it or record / 
> copy it
> Create a list of the 6000 machines in a data base
> Use this database to display machine placements on maps at level – country – 
> state – suburb and or postcode
> Select a single machine and see a description of the location and or actual 
> zoomed in map vision of the machine location
> Zoom out or in to different levels of geographic area size to see all 
> machines within the screen view
>  
>  
> Second priority level of information
> Add additional information to each machine. E.g model number and type of 
> machine displayed in map via hover or similar function
> Select State – suburb or postcode to view all machines withing that specific 
> area.
> Build a visual presentation of maps for selected specific areas as above 
> point.
>  
> I am thinking that if qgis can do these basic things we can add to our wish 
> list of features later.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Kind Regards
>  
> Peter
>  
> Peter
> Cramer
> Director
> 
> 
>  0401771863
> 
> pe...@websurge.com.au
> 
> https://websurge.com.au
> 
> Breakfast Point NSW
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Re: [Qgis-user] help please

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You need a field data collection solution. There are twi offerings based on
QGIS that can help you collect data using a mobile device and have the data
stored in a central QGIS database.

Check out https://inputapp.io/en/ and https://qfield.org/

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On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 5:58 AM Peter Cramer  wrote:

> I have a very basic question about qgis features. Thanks in advance for
> any answers.
>
>
>
> The scenario is that we need to geo locate 6,000 machines in various
> locations throughout Australia.
>
> I person will be onsite at each machine in the exact position of the
> machine.
>
> We want to create a gps position for each machine and save it or record /
> copy it
>
> Create a list of the 6000 machines in a data base
>
> Use this database to display machine placements on maps at level – country
> – state – suburb and or postcode
>
> Select a single machine and see a description of the location and or
> actual zoomed in map vision of the machine location
>
> Zoom out or in to different levels of geographic area size to see all
> machines within the screen view
>
>
>
>
>
> Second priority level of information
>
> Add additional information to each machine. E.g model number and type of
> machine displayed in map via hover or similar function
>
> Select State – suburb or postcode to view all machines withing that
> specific area.
>
> Build a visual presentation of maps for selected specific areas as above
> point.
>
>
>
> I am thinking that if qgis can do these basic things we can add to our
> wish list of features later.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind Regards
>
>
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> *Peter*
>
> *Cramer*
> Director
>
> [image: A picture containing drawing, food Description automatically
> generated]
>
>  *0401771863*
>
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>
> https://websurge.com.au
>
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[Qgis-user] help please

[Peter Cramer]

I have a very basic question about qgis features. Thanks in advance for any 
answers.

The scenario is that we need to geo locate 6,000 machines in various locations 
throughout Australia.
I person will be onsite at each machine in the exact position of the machine.
We want to create a gps position for each machine and save it or record / copy 
it
Create a list of the 6000 machines in a data base
Use this database to display machine placements on maps at level - country - 
state - suburb and or postcode
Select a single machine and see a description of the location and or actual 
zoomed in map vision of the machine location
Zoom out or in to different levels of geographic area size to see all machines 
within the screen view


Second priority level of information
Add additional information to each machine. E.g model number and type of 
machine displayed in map via hover or similar function
Select State - suburb or postcode to view all machines withing that specific 
area.
Build a visual presentation of maps for selected specific areas as above point.

I am thinking that if qgis can do these basic things we can add to our wish 
list of features later.




Kind Regards

Peter

Peter
Cramer
Director
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help with new plugin for AEC project syncing

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Sebastian,

Thanks for the heads up.  Very interesting project.  Big AutoCAD user here.  
And being able to talk CAD (stuff) from inside of QGIS would be an interesting 
approach to some of our workflows.

Bobb



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Hello,
I am writing on behalf of a developer working on creating a new plugin that 
connects QGIS to Speckle. Speckle is an opensource GIT like system for 
Architecture, Engineering, and Construction (AEC) that syncs geometry and other 
data between various proprietary and open source software including Blender, 
Revit, AutoCAD and Rhino. https://speckle.systems/
A few months ago I wrote to them to see if they were interested in having a 
plugin (connector in their terms) that syncs between Speckle and QGIS. They 
were excited about this and have started working on it.
See the thread here: https://speckle.community/t/qgis-connector-wip/1619

They are looking for advice and If you have experience writing plugins or work 
in GIS and the AEC industry they would love to hear your thoughts!

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[Qgis-user] Help with new plugin for AEC project syncing

[Sebastian Gutwein]

Hello,
I am writing on behalf of a developer working on creating a new plugin that
connects QGIS to Speckle. Speckle is an opensource GIT like system for
Architecture, Engineering, and Construction (AEC) that syncs geometry and
other data between various proprietary and open source software including
Blender, Revit, AutoCAD and Rhino. https://speckle.systems/
A few months ago I wrote to them to see if they were interested in having a
plugin (connector in their terms) that syncs between Speckle and QGIS. They
were excited about this and have started working on it.
See the thread here: https://speckle.community/t/qgis-connector-wip/1619

They are looking for advice and If you have experience writing plugins or
work in GIS and the AEC industry they would love to hear your thoughts!

-Sebastian
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help! QGIS crashed and has deleted my QGZ file

[Nicolas Cadieux]

Hi

If you have Windows 10 and have activated "Back up using File History" 
(Setting/Update and Security/Backup) you may have a copy of the 
file.  If your files disappeared for no reasons, I would seriously scan 
your hard drive in case you are seeing indications of a drive failier.


Good Luck

Nicolas

On 2021-04-19 8:56 a.m., j...@john-firth-editor.co.uk wrote:


I’m using QGIS 3.16.0 on Windows 10, standalone PC. I have taken some 
training, but am a pretty inexpert user. The map that I’ve spent 
several months developing (for a book I’m writing) crashed on 
Saturday, and when I tried to load it just now it is greyed out in the 
Open Recent list (with an exclamation mark next to it) and File 
Explorer no longer finds it on my hard disk.


I attempted to do what your website advised (downloaded DeBug View, 
which did not appear to run on my computer). When the file crashed, I 
had just added a couple of entries to an attribute table (it’s not a 
large one, though there are others in the file). I’ve no doubt someone 
more expert than I am could tell me how to extract a crash report, if 
that would be helpful.


Is there any chance of saving my map?



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Re: [Qgis-user] Help! QGIS crashed and has deleted my QGZ file

[john]

Thanks for quick reply, Kirk. I'm going to look into restoring from the
back-up before Saturday (I need to make a living for the rest of today), but
what prompted my concern was that the project file (QGZ) is not found by
File Explorer, either in the folder I used to store it in or in the Recycle
Bin. There's no previously saved version, no .TMP version (I don't know
whether QGIS sets these up); nothing. The explanation mark that QGIS placed
next to its title in the Open Recent line would probably tell me more, if
the line weren't greyed-out.

 

A number of the other files are still present (including, interestingly, the
shapefile that I modified just before the crash); but I should probably have
kept a separate list of these somewhere as I can't tell from looking down
the list whether they are all present. (As usual, burnt hand teaches best.)

 

So, having calmed down a bit, I should be able to recover my work with only
a day or so lost (unless I find that the backup won't restore properly). But
I am fairly concerned that a large file has apparently disappeared as a
result of a crash.



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From: Kirk Schmidt  
Sent: 19 April 2021 14:16
To: qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Help! QGIS crashed and has deleted my QGZ file

 

Hi John:

I am sorry to hear about your crash.  It is important to note that QGIS
provides a means of querying, updating, analysing and displaying data that
is stored outside of the software (in a variety of formats).  SO, I would
suggest looking for the actual spatial files(s) that you were editing when
it crashed.  I assume they still exist, however, depending on the data
format, you probably would have lost the attributes you were editing at the
time of the crash. 

The QGIS project file may also have been corrupted at the time of the crash.
You may have to use a backup to restore your last saved version.

I hope this helps

Kirk Schmidt  

On 4/19/2021 9:56 AM, j...@john-firth-editor.co.uk
<mailto:j...@john-firth-editor.co.uk>  wrote:

I'm using QGIS 3.16.0 on Windows 10, standalone PC. I have taken some
training, but am a pretty inexpert user. The map that I've spent several
months developing (for a book I'm writing) crashed on Saturday, and when I
tried to load it just now it is greyed out in the Open Recent list (with an
exclamation mark next to it) and File Explorer no longer finds it on my hard
disk.

 

I attempted to do what your website advised (downloaded DeBug View, which
did not appear to run on my computer). When the file crashed, I had just
added a couple of entries to an attribute table (it's not a large one,
though there are others in the file). I've no doubt someone more expert than
I am could tell me how to extract a crash report, if that would be helpful.

 

Is there any chance of saving my map?



John Firth



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Re: [Qgis-user] Help! QGIS crashed and has deleted my QGZ file

[Kirk Schmidt]

Hi John:

I am sorry to hear about your crash.  It is important to note that QGIS 
provides a means of querying, updating, analysing and displaying data 
that is stored outside of the software (in a variety of formats).  SO, I 
would suggest looking for the actual spatial files(s) that you were 
editing when it crashed.  I assume they still exist, however, depending 
on the data format, you probably would have lost the attributes you were 
editing at the time of the crash.


The QGIS project file may also have been corrupted at the time of the 
crash.  You may have to use a backup to restore your last saved version.


I hope this helps

Kirk Schmidt

On 4/19/2021 9:56 AM, j...@john-firth-editor.co.uk wrote:


I’m using QGIS 3.16.0 on Windows 10, standalone PC. I have taken some 
training, but am a pretty inexpert user. The map that I’ve spent 
several months developing (for a book I’m writing) crashed on 
Saturday, and when I tried to load it just now it is greyed out in the 
Open Recent list (with an exclamation mark next to it) and File 
Explorer no longer finds it on my hard disk.


I attempted to do what your website advised (downloaded DeBug View, 
which did not appear to run on my computer). When the file crashed, I 
had just added a couple of entries to an attribute table (it’s not a 
large one, though there are others in the file). I’ve no doubt someone 
more expert than I am could tell me how to extract a crash report, if 
that would be helpful.


Is there any chance of saving my map?



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[Qgis-user] Help! QGIS crashed and has deleted my QGZ file

[john]

I'm using QGIS 3.16.0 on Windows 10, standalone PC. I have taken some
training, but am a pretty inexpert user. The map that I've spent several
months developing (for a book I'm writing) crashed on Saturday, and when I
tried to load it just now it is greyed out in the Open Recent list (with an
exclamation mark next to it) and File Explorer no longer finds it on my hard
disk.

 

I attempted to do what your website advised (downloaded DeBug View, which
did not appear to run on my computer). When the file crashed, I had just
added a couple of entries to an attribute table (it's not a large one,
though there are others in the file). I've no doubt someone more expert than
I am could tell me how to extract a crash report, if that would be helpful.

 

Is there any chance of saving my map?



John Firth



On 1 March 2020 a Royal Charter was given to the Society for Editors and
Proofreaders (SfEP), which is now the Chartered Institute of Editing and
Proofreading.

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Re: [Qgis-user] Help for QGIS installation /Aide pour installer QGIS

[Richard Duivenvoorde]

Hi Gloria,

The url's are valid. I can see the content in the browser. 
Can you?

IF you can, the problem is that (as you said) you probably are connecting to 
the internet behind a proxy.
IF so, you should also need to tell your package-system/apt to do so:

In /etc/apt/apt.conf add the following line(s) but adding the right proxy urls 
and/or ports (3128 is a common proxy port, but it can be anything):

Acquire::http::proxy "http://proxy.yourorg.fr:3128/";;
Acquire::https::proxy "https://proxy.yourorg.fr:3128/";;

Note that you will probably get QGIS 3.4.

But: if this is a professional computer, please upgrade to something newer, 
Debian 11 is almost coming...

Regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde

On 2/24/21 9:14 AM, SENFAUTE Gloria wrote:
> Hi Richard, 
> Thank you so much for your advises. 
> It is impossible updating ma computer to sibian 10, it is my professional 
> computer. 
> I tried to install using: 
> https://www.qgis.org/fr/site/forusers/alldownloads.html#quickstart
> Following the instructions, everything it is ok
> BUT, when I would update my respostry with : "sudo apt update", below the 
> return.
> Do you know this kind of error, it is a problem of accessing to the 
> repository or sibian 9
> 
> Thank you so much for your help
> ---
> .Err:8 https://qgis.org/debian-ltr stretch InRelease
>   Connection timed out after 12 milliseconds
> Err:9 https://qgis.org/debian stretch InRelease
>   Connection timed out after 12 milliseconds
> Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
> Construction de l'arbre des dépendances   
> Lecture des informations d'état... Fait
> All packages are up to date.
> W: Impossible de récupérer 
> https://qgis.org/debian-ltr/dists/stretch/InRelease  Connection timed out 
> after 12 milliseconds
> W: Impossible de récupérer https://qgis.org/debian/dists/stretch/InRelease  
> Connection timed out after 12 milliseconds
> 
> 
> 
> 
> If I understand correctly, if I use 
> 
> -Message d'origine-
> De : rdmaili...@duif.net [mailto:rdmaili...@duif.net] 
> Envoyé : mardi 23 février 2021 17:40
> À : SENFAUTE Gloria ; qgis-user@lists.osgeo.org
> Objet : Re: [Qgis-user] Help for QGIS installation /Aide pour installer QGIS
> 
> Hi Gloria,
> 
> Not sure if you can pull up to 3.10 on Debian Stretch/9 (which is rather 
> old).
> 
> If I look here:
> https://qgis.org/debian/dists/stretch/main/binary-amd64/Packages
> it looks like that if you try to install QGIS in the normal/distro way, you 
> will end up with QGIS 3.4  (I think, anybody can confirm ...)
> 
> Isn't it possible to upgrade your machine to Debian 10/Buster?
> Then you can upgrade to 3.12 (which is 3.10 plus a little extra ;-) ) if you 
> use the "Démarrage rapide"
> https://www.qgis.org/fr/site/forusers/alldownloads.html#quickstart
> Or even 3.14, 3.16 (tell your educator there is a newer LTR ;-) ) or higher?
> 
> If all fails, you  could try to install a flatpak (but not sure about that 
> either for Debian 9):
> https://www.qgis.org/fr/site/forusers/alldownloads.html#flatpak
> 
> And if even that fails... and you have some experience with compiling 
> yourself, you could compile from source...
> 
> But: Stretch is rather old, if you ask me: upgrade to Buster/10 first
> 
> Good Luck & regards,
> 
> Richard Duivenvoorde
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2/23/21 11:23 AM, SENFAUTE Gloria wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> In case, you can write in French!
>>
>> I need a strong help for updating or installing last version of QGIS.
>>
>> Working in linus (Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 64 bits).
>>
>> In my computer I have a version of QGIS (2.4 ESSEN).
>>
>> In few days I will have my first training with QGIS and I must to install: 
>> QGIS 3.10.14 LTR.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I would like to know what is the better way:
>>
>> 1)To update of QGIS 2.4 to 3.10.14 LTR, *How to do it* ?
>>
>> 2) To remove QGIS 2.4 and then re-install following the steps of QGIS site 
>> for linus ?
>>
>> I am so afraid of this last solution: if I remove and I cannot install the 
>> new QGIS.
>>
>> I administrator of my computer but I have also many proxis installed by my 
>> company, so I didn't try, I am waiting for advises.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thank you very much !
>>
>>  
>>
>> Gloria
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *Gloria SENFAUTE*
>> *Ingénieur Chercheur, PhD*
>> Expert Aléa Sismique
>> Département Electrotechnique et Mé

Re: [Qgis-user] Help for QGIS installation /Aide pour installer QGIS

[Richard Duivenvoorde]

Hi Gloria,

Not sure if you can pull up to 3.10 on Debian Stretch/9 (which is rather 
old).

If I look here:
https://qgis.org/debian/dists/stretch/main/binary-amd64/Packages
it looks like that if you try to install QGIS in the normal/distro way, you 
will end up with QGIS 3.4  (I think, anybody can confirm ...)

Isn't it possible to upgrade your machine to Debian 10/Buster?
Then you can upgrade to 3.12 (which is 3.10 plus a little extra ;-) ) if you 
use the "Démarrage rapide"
https://www.qgis.org/fr/site/forusers/alldownloads.html#quickstart
Or even 3.14, 3.16 (tell your educator there is a newer LTR ;-) ) or higher?

If all fails, you  could try to install a flatpak (but not sure about that 
either for Debian 9):
https://www.qgis.org/fr/site/forusers/alldownloads.html#flatpak

And if even that fails... and you have some experience with compiling yourself, 
you could compile from source...

But: Stretch is rather old, if you ask me: upgrade to Buster/10 first

Good Luck & regards,

Richard Duivenvoorde




On 2/23/21 11:23 AM, SENFAUTE Gloria wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> In case, you can write in French!
> 
> I need a strong help for updating or installing last version of QGIS.
> 
> Working in linus (Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 64 bits).
> 
> In my computer I have a version of QGIS (2.4 ESSEN).
> 
> In few days I will have my first training with QGIS and I must to install: 
> QGIS 3.10.14 LTR.
> 
>  
> 
> I would like to know what is the better way:
> 
> 1)To update of QGIS 2.4 to 3.10.14 LTR, *How to do it* ?
> 
> 2) To remove QGIS 2.4 and then re-install following the steps of QGIS site 
> for linus ?
> 
> I am so afraid of this last solution: if I remove and I cannot install the 
> new QGIS.
> 
> I administrator of my computer but I have also many proxis installed by my 
> company, so I didn’t try, I am waiting for advises.
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you very much !
> 
>  
> 
> Gloria
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
> *Gloria SENFAUTE*
> *Ingénieur Chercheur, PhD*
> Expert Aléa Sismique
> Département Electrotechnique et Mécanique des Structures - ERMES
> Groupe Séisme et Impacts, EDF Lab Paris-Saclay
> 7 Boulevard Gaspard Monge
> 91120 Palaiseau
> 
>  
> 
> *gloria.senfa...@edf.fr*
> 
> Tél. : 33 1 78193433
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help for QGIS installation /Aide pour installer QGIS

[Nicolas Cadieux]

Hi,
2.4 and 3.x can live together on the same machine in Windows. Is it the same in 
Linux? Probably...  I figure you can install 3.10 without removing anything.  
Can a true  Linux fan confirm?

As for the Linux installation, I followed the instructions here on a Ubuntu 
machine and it worked well.

https://www.qgis.org/fr/site/forusers/alldownloads.html

Nicolas Cadieux
https://gitlab.com/njacadieux

> Le 23 févr. 2021 à 05:31, SENFAUTE Gloria  a écrit :
> 
> 
> Dear all,
> In case, you can write in French!
> I need a strong help for updating or installing last version of QGIS.
> Working in linus (Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 64 bits).
> In my computer I have a version of QGIS (2.4 ESSEN).
> In few days I will have my first training with QGIS and I must to install: 
> QGIS 3.10.14 LTR.
>  
> I would like to know what is the better way:
> 1)To update of QGIS 2.4 to 3.10.14 LTR, How to do it ?
> 2) To remove QGIS 2.4 and then re-install following the steps of QGIS site 
> for linus ?
> I am so afraid of this last solution: if I remove and I cannot install the 
> new QGIS.
> I administrator of my computer but I have also many proxis installed by my 
> company, so I didn’t try, I am waiting for advises.
>  
> Thank you very much !
>  
> Gloria
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  
> Gloria SENFAUTE
> Ingénieur Chercheur, PhD
> Expert Aléa Sismique
> Département Electrotechnique et Mécanique des Structures - ERMES
> Groupe Séisme et Impacts, EDF Lab Paris-Saclay
> 7 Boulevard Gaspard Monge
> 91120 Palaiseau
>  
> gloria.senfa...@edf.fr
> Tél. : 33 1 78193433
>  
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help for QGIS installation /Aide pour installer QGIS

[Nicolas Boisteault]

Hi Gloria,

You could install QGIS in a virtual machine using Virtual Box or in a 
container with Docker 
(https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/tree/master/.docker#running-qgis).


This way you'll be safe of any bad changes.

Le 23/02/2021 à 11:23, SENFAUTE Gloria a écrit :


Dear all,

In case, you can write in French!

I need a strong help for updating or installing last version of QGIS.

Working in linus (Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 64 bits).

In my computer I have a version of QGIS (2.4 ESSEN).

In few days I will have my first training with QGIS and I must to 
install: QGIS 3.10.14 LTR.


I would like to know what is the better way:

1)To update of QGIS 2.4 to 3.10.14 LTR, *How to do it* ?

2) To remove QGIS 2.4 and then re-install following the steps of QGIS 
site for linus ?


I am so afraid of this last solution: if I remove and I cannot install 
the new QGIS.


I administrator of my computer but I have also many proxis installed 
by my company, so I didn’t try, I am waiting for advises.


Thank you very much !

Gloria



*Gloria SENFAUTE*
*Ingénieur Chercheur, PhD*
Expert Aléa Sismique
Département Electrotechnique et Mécanique des Structures - ERMES
Groupe Séisme et Impacts, EDF Lab Paris-Saclay
7 Boulevard Gaspard Monge
91120 Palaiseau

*gloria.senfa...@edf.fr*

Tél. : 33 1 78193433



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[Qgis-user] Help for QGIS installation /Aide pour installer QGIS

[SENFAUTE Gloria]

Dear all,
In case, you can write in French!
I need a strong help for updating or installing last version of QGIS.
Working in linus (Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 64 bits).
In my computer I have a version of QGIS (2.4 ESSEN).
In few days I will have my first training with QGIS and I must to install: QGIS 
3.10.14 LTR.

I would like to know what is the better way:
1)To update of QGIS 2.4 to 3.10.14 LTR, How to do it ?
2) To remove QGIS 2.4 and then re-install following the steps of QGIS site for 
linus ?
I am so afraid of this last solution: if I remove and I cannot install the new 
QGIS.
I administrator of my computer but I have also many proxis installed by my 
company, so I didn't try, I am waiting for advises.

Thank you very much !

Gloria




[X]



Gloria SENFAUTE
Ingénieur Chercheur, PhD
Expert Aléa Sismique
Département Electrotechnique et Mécanique des Structures - ERMES
Groupe Séisme et Impacts, EDF Lab Paris-Saclay
7 Boulevard Gaspard Monge
91120 Palaiseau

gloria.senfa...@edf.fr
Tél. : 33 1 78193433



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l'utilité.





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Re: [Qgis-user] HELP highlights points

[Ujaval Gandhi]

This can be done with an 'Action'. I was able to do it with a bit of PyQGIS
code. Change the  point_layer_name in the snippet below to match your point
name. Define the Action on the line layer. Here's how it works
https://ibb.co/vP7KRDd

line_layer = QgsProject.instance().mapLayer('[% @layer_id %]')
point_layer_name = 'points'
fid = [% $id %]
line_feature = line_layer.getFeature(fid)
line_geometry = line_feature.geometry().buffer(40, 5)
point_layer = QgsProject.instance().mapLayersByName(point_layer_name)[0]
nearby_points = [p.id() for p in point_layer.getFeatures()
if p.geometry().intersects(line_geometry) ]
layer.selectByIds(nearby_points)


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On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 8:02 PM Charles Dixon-Paver 
wrote:

> I was very interested to see if this was possible with qgis expressions
> and symbology, and I got it to work with surprisingly little effort, albeit
> with some issues [1].
>
> I simply used the rule based symbology to highlight the relevant features
> using an expression [2].
>
> The expression I used was as follows:
>
> if(
>   distance($geometry,
> geometry(
>   get_feature('Lines','fid','1')
> )
>   ) < 500
> ,true,false)
>
> One caveat is that the view does not automatically update when digitizing
> a new vertice. As a result I needed to zoom in and out constantly to update
> the symbol styles. This could probably be modified by using a layer action
> though.
>
> Secondly, this expression is limited to a single feature in it's
> current state. I'm not sure if anyone has a clever workaround for including
> all geometries from another layer in an expression.
>
> Lastly, this only tracks actual features, not the cursor.
>
> There could be many other ways to achieve your result though, but I was
> interested to see how well this would function so others might find the
> result quite interesting. It's probably also quite usable for static styles
> if the objective is just for mapmaking rather than a digitizing tool.
>
> [1] https://imgur.com/a/5J0dSt3
> [2] https://imgur.com/a/E043vO7
>
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 at 15:31, Raffaele Ceretto 
> wrote:
>
>> I need a tool that allows me to draw a line and that at the same time
>> highlights points within a certain distance (for example 40 meters).
>> I have a map with hundreds of points, I would like when I draw a line
>> what is nearby will light up.
>> There is a specific tool to do this or a simple "magnet" function?
>> Thank you for your help
>>
>> waiting for a reply
>>
>> regards
>>
>> Raffaele
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Re: [Qgis-user] HELP highlights points

[Charles Dixon-Paver]

I was very interested to see if this was possible with qgis expressions and
symbology, and I got it to work with surprisingly little effort, albeit
with some issues [1].

I simply used the rule based symbology to highlight the relevant features
using an expression [2].

The expression I used was as follows:

if(
  distance($geometry,
geometry(
  get_feature('Lines','fid','1')
)
  ) < 500
,true,false)

One caveat is that the view does not automatically update when digitizing a
new vertice. As a result I needed to zoom in and out constantly to update
the symbol styles. This could probably be modified by using a layer action
though.

Secondly, this expression is limited to a single feature in it's
current state. I'm not sure if anyone has a clever workaround for including
all geometries from another layer in an expression.

Lastly, this only tracks actual features, not the cursor.

There could be many other ways to achieve your result though, but I was
interested to see how well this would function so others might find the
result quite interesting. It's probably also quite usable for static styles
if the objective is just for mapmaking rather than a digitizing tool.

[1] https://imgur.com/a/5J0dSt3
[2] https://imgur.com/a/E043vO7

On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 at 15:31, Raffaele Ceretto 
wrote:

> I need a tool that allows me to draw a line and that at the same time
> highlights points within a certain distance (for example 40 meters).
> I have a map with hundreds of points, I would like when I draw a line what
> is nearby will light up.
> There is a specific tool to do this or a simple "magnet" function?
> Thank you for your help
>
> waiting for a reply
>
> regards
>
> Raffaele
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[Qgis-user] HELP highlights points

[Raffaele Ceretto]

I need a tool that allows me to draw a line and that at the same time
highlights points within a certain distance (for example 40 meters).
I have a map with hundreds of points, I would like when I draw a line what
is nearby will light up.
There is a specific tool to do this or a simple "magnet" function?
Thank you for your help

waiting for a reply

regards

Raffaele
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Re: [Qgis-user] help qgis_app.dll does not load error after installation of QGIS 3.10.11 LTR on windows 10

[Nicolas Cadieux]

Hi,
Maybe a problem with the Grass installation? 

https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo4w/ticket/601

Last time I had that problem, I followed the introduction here, 
https://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/240159/qgis-2-18-the-program-cant-start-because-qgis-app-dll-is-missing-from-your-com
That was for 2.18.

Nicolas Cadieux
https://gitlab.com/njacadieux

> Le 19 nov. 2020 à 09:35, Schlossmacher Gerd 
>  a écrit :
> 
> Hello,
> I installed QGIS-3.10.11 LTR on several Windows10 PCs.
> The users could start QGIS after the installation, but after a restart they 
> get the error message
> 
> Could not load qgis_app.dll
> The module was not found.
> And the suggestion to check the qgis-ltr-bin.env file for correct PATH 
> variable.
> The qgis_app.dll is on the PC and the .env file shows the path to that dll.
> 
> It does not happen on every PC.
> 
> Does anybody have an idea what could be wrong or what I can I do, except from 
> re-installing QGIS?
> 
> I am thankful for any help.
> 
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> Im Auftrag
> 
> Gerd Schlossmacher
> 
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> 
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[Qgis-user] help qgis_app.dll does not load error after installation of QGIS 3.10.11 LTR on windows 10

[Schlossmacher Gerd]

Hello,
I installed QGIS-3.10.11 LTR on several Windows10 PCs.
The users could start QGIS after the installation, but after a restart they get 
the error message

Could not load qgis_app.dll
The module was not found.
And the suggestion to check the qgis-ltr-bin.env file for correct PATH variable.
The qgis_app.dll is on the PC and the .env file shows the path to that dll.

It does not happen on every PC.

Does anybody have an idea what could be wrong or what I can I do, except from 
re-installing QGIS?

I am thankful for any help.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Im Auftrag

Gerd Schlossmacher

Kommunales Gebietsrechenzentrum Koblenz (KGRZ)
- Eigenbetrieb der Stadt Koblenz -
Hochhaus am Bahnhof
Bahnhofstraße 47
56068 Koblenz

Tel.  +49 (0) 261 / 129-3140
Fax  +49 (0) 261 / 129-1250
Mail k...@stadt.koblenz.de
Internet: www.koblenz.de
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[Qgis-user] Help with Downloading on Mac

[austengirl2]

Hello,

I hope this is the right email. I'm brand new to QGIS and am not tech
savvy. I downloaded QGIS to my Mac, but the computer will not open it
because the application cannot be scanned for viruses.  My computer
told me to contact the developer - hence the email. Can you help me?

Ta,
Danica
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[Qgis-user] Help with georeferencing AGD66 Topo map (Rick Bishop)

[Iain]

Rick

I find georeferencing in QGIS frustrating - I georeference my plans in Arc - 
rectify them and open them in QGIS so I am no expert but you might get some 
help from the Australian QGIS user group.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/australian-qgis-user-group 

Cheers

Dr Iain Stuart
JCIS Consultants 
P.O. Box 2397
Burwood North
NSW, 2134

(02) 9701 0191
(0413) 380116 (m)

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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Copyright advice ref maps produced for publications

[b.j.kob...@utwente.nl]

Natural Earth data is a wonderful free and open service from the folks at NACIS 
and cartographers around the globe. Nathaniel Vaughn Kelso and Tom Patterson 
led the effort.

It has NOTHING to do with Google. The Terms of Use on the page 
https://www.naturalearthdata.com/about/terms-of-use/ state:

"All versions of Natural Earth raster + vector map data found on this website 
are in the public domain. You may use the maps in any manner, including 
modifying the content and design, electronic dissemination, and offset 
printing. The primary authors, Tom Patterson and Nathaniel Vaughn Kelso, and 
all other contributors renounce all financial claim to the maps and invites you 
to use them for personal, educational, and commercial purposes.
No permission is needed to use Natural Earth. Crediting the authors is 
unnecessary.
However, if you wish to cite the map data, simply use one of the following.
Short text:
Made with Natural Earth.
Long text:
Made with Natural Earth. Free vector and raster map data @ 
naturalearthdata.com."

--
Barend Köbben
Senior Lecturer – ITC- University Twente
PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (The Netherlands)
ITC Building (Hengelosestraat 99) room 1-065
+31-(0)53 4874 253

On 31/03/2020, 11:18, "Qgis-user on behalf of Hamish Macdonald" 
mailto:qgis-user-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> on 
behalf of hamfra...@gmail.com> wrote:

Many thanks. Sorry to add a pesky question, do you know if this applies also to 
Natural Earth? Is it separate or a part of google?


On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 10:21, Andreas Neumann 
mailto:a.neum...@carto.net>> wrote:

Hi Hamish,

Yes, copyright has to be taken into account for any data sources you use in 
your QGIS project.

Esp. base maps. Note, f.e. that you cannot use Google Maps as a background 
layer for your new map. The terms of Google Maps disallow to create any new 
maps based on their data, if it isn't using the Google Maps API and keys.

You can use OpenStreetMap as a base map, but they also have a copyright: you 
have to mention that you use their data, if you want to use it.

And you are not allowed to derive any data from Google Maps base data.

Text and images, as you say, also have copyright.

Greetings,

Andreas
Am 31.03.20 um 10:18 schrieb Hamish Macdonald:
Thanks for the speedy reply, Andreas. Much appreciated. By data do you mean 
stuff like statistics, insert photos, written information about a location from 
another source, etc?

Best wishes
Hamish

On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 10:08, Andreas Neumann 
mailto:a.neum...@carto.net>> wrote:

Hi Hamish,

Your assumptions are right. As the map author, when you are creating new maps 
in QGIS, you are the copyright owner of your map.

However, as Paolo pointed out, if you load data from various sources, you'd 
have to first check the copyright conditions of the data you use to create your 
maps.

Greetings,

Andreas
Am 31.03.20 um 09:34 schrieb Hamish Macdonald:
Good morning,

I am an historian looking to bring to life a work for publication illustrated 
by annotated physical and cultural maps inspired by examples seen from QGIS 
training videos. As a stumbling beginner I have already invested many hours 
trying to master the basics. However, before I invest many more hours and 
finessing maps I need to know urgently if I will have to pay copyright 
permission to use my maps in a publication. Am I being naive in thinking maps 
created become my own property and copyright just applies if I attempted to 
develop software using elements found through QGIS? The latter is my impression 
scrolling through terms and conditions. I.e maps produced are free and become 
my copyright in a publication?

Thank you in anticipation of your time.

Best wishes
Hamish Macdonald



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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Copyright advice ref maps produced for publications

[Andreas Neumann]

Hi,

Natural Earth is totally separate from Google and the terms of use are 
at https://www.naturalearthdata.com/about/terms-of-use/ - that data is 
public domain.


Please understand that I won't answer all of your questions regarding 
copyrights of specific data sources. You can use Google just as well as 
I can do ;-) to find the terms of use or copyright of certain data sources.


Greetings,
Andreas

Am 31.03.20 um 11:17 schrieb Hamish Macdonald:
Many thanks. Sorry to add a pesky question, do you know if this 
applies also to Natural Earth? Is it separate or a part of google?



On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 10:21, Andreas Neumann > wrote:


Hi Hamish,

Yes, copyright has to be taken into account for any data sources
you use in your QGIS project.

Esp. base maps. Note, f.e. that you cannot use Google Maps as a
background layer for your new map. The terms of Google Maps
disallow to create any new maps based on their data, if it isn't
using the Google Maps API and keys.

You can use OpenStreetMap as a base map, but they also have a
copyright: you have to mention that you use their data, if you
want to use it.

And you are not allowed to derive any data from Google Maps base data.

Text and images, as you say, also have copyright.

Greetings,

Andreas

Am 31.03.20 um 10:18 schrieb Hamish Macdonald:

Thanks for the speedy reply, Andreas. Much appreciated. By data
do you mean stuff like statistics, insert photos, written
information about a location from another source, etc?

Best wishes
Hamish

On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 10:08, Andreas Neumann
mailto:a.neum...@carto.net>> wrote:

Hi Hamish,

Your assumptions are right. As the map author, when you are
creating new maps in QGIS, you are the copyright owner of
your map.

However, as Paolo pointed out, if you load data from various
sources, you'd have to first check the copyright conditions
of the data you use to create your maps.

Greetings,

Andreas

Am 31.03.20 um 09:34 schrieb Hamish Macdonald:

Good morning,

I am an historian looking to bring to life a work for
publication illustrated by annotated physical and cultural
maps inspired by examples seen from QGIS training videos. As
a stumbling beginner I have already invested many hours
trying to master the basics. However, before I invest many
more hours and finessing maps I need to know urgently if I
will have to pay copyright permission to use my maps in a
publication. Am I being naive in thinking maps created
become my own property and copyright just applies if I
attempted to develop software using elements found through
QGIS? The latter is my impression scrolling through terms
and conditions. I.e maps produced are free and become my
copyright in a publication?

Thank you in anticipation of your time.

Best wishes
Hamish Macdonald

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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Copyright advice ref maps produced for publications

[Hamish Macdonald]

Many thanks. Sorry to add a pesky question, do you know if this applies
also to Natural Earth? Is it separate or a part of google?


On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 10:21, Andreas Neumann  wrote:

> Hi Hamish,
>
> Yes, copyright has to be taken into account for any data sources you use
> in your QGIS project.
>
> Esp. base maps. Note, f.e. that you cannot use Google Maps as a background
> layer for your new map. The terms of Google Maps disallow to create any new
> maps based on their data, if it isn't using the Google Maps API and keys.
>
> You can use OpenStreetMap as a base map, but they also have a copyright:
> you have to mention that you use their data, if you want to use it.
>
> And you are not allowed to derive any data from Google Maps base data.
>
> Text and images, as you say, also have copyright.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Andreas
> Am 31.03.20 um 10:18 schrieb Hamish Macdonald:
>
> Thanks for the speedy reply, Andreas. Much appreciated. By data do you
> mean stuff like statistics, insert photos, written information about a
> location from another source, etc?
>
> Best wishes
> Hamish
>
> On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 10:08, Andreas Neumann  wrote:
>
>> Hi Hamish,
>>
>> Your assumptions are right. As the map author, when you are creating new
>> maps in QGIS, you are the copyright owner of your map.
>>
>> However, as Paolo pointed out, if you load data from various sources,
>> you'd have to first check the copyright conditions of the data you use to
>> create your maps.
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Andreas
>> Am 31.03.20 um 09:34 schrieb Hamish Macdonald:
>>
>> Good morning,
>>
>> I am an historian looking to bring to life a work for publication
>> illustrated by annotated physical and cultural maps inspired by examples
>> seen from QGIS training videos. As a stumbling beginner I have already
>> invested many hours trying to master the basics. However, before I invest
>> many more hours and finessing maps I need to know urgently if I will have
>> to pay copyright permission to use my maps in a publication. Am I being
>> naive in thinking maps created become my own property and copyright just
>> applies if I attempted to develop software using elements found through
>> QGIS? The latter is my impression scrolling through terms and conditions.
>> I.e maps produced are free and become my copyright in a publication?
>>
>> Thank you in anticipation of your time.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Hamish Macdonald
>>
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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Copyright advice ref maps produced for publications

[Andreas Neumann]

Hi Hamish,

Yes, copyright has to be taken into account for any data sources you use 
in your QGIS project.


Esp. base maps. Note, f.e. that you cannot use Google Maps as a 
background layer for your new map. The terms of Google Maps disallow to 
create any new maps based on their data, if it isn't using the Google 
Maps API and keys.


You can use OpenStreetMap as a base map, but they also have a copyright: 
you have to mention that you use their data, if you want to use it.


And you are not allowed to derive any data from Google Maps base data.

Text and images, as you say, also have copyright.

Greetings,

Andreas

Am 31.03.20 um 10:18 schrieb Hamish Macdonald:
Thanks for the speedy reply, Andreas. Much appreciated. By data do you 
mean stuff like statistics, insert photos, written information about a 
location from another source, etc?


Best wishes
Hamish

On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 10:08, Andreas Neumann > wrote:


Hi Hamish,

Your assumptions are right. As the map author, when you are
creating new maps in QGIS, you are the copyright owner of your map.

However, as Paolo pointed out, if you load data from various
sources, you'd have to first check the copyright conditions of the
data you use to create your maps.

Greetings,

Andreas

Am 31.03.20 um 09:34 schrieb Hamish Macdonald:

Good morning,

I am an historian looking to bring to life a work for publication
illustrated by annotated physical and cultural maps inspired by
examples seen from QGIS training videos. As a stumbling beginner
I have already invested many hours trying to master the basics.
However, before I invest many more hours and finessing maps I
need to know urgently if I will have to pay copyright permission
to use my maps in a publication. Am I being naive in thinking
maps created become my own property and copyright just applies if
I attempted to develop software using elements found through
QGIS? The latter is my impression scrolling through terms and
conditions. I.e maps produced are free and become my copyright in
a publication?

Thank you in anticipation of your time.

Best wishes
Hamish Macdonald

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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Copyright advice ref maps produced for publications

[Andreas Neumann]

Hi Hamish,

Your assumptions are right. As the map author, when you are creating new 
maps in QGIS, you are the copyright owner of your map.


However, as Paolo pointed out, if you load data from various sources, 
you'd have to first check the copyright conditions of the data you use 
to create your maps.


Greetings,

Andreas

Am 31.03.20 um 09:34 schrieb Hamish Macdonald:

Good morning,

I am an historian looking to bring to life a work for publication 
illustrated by annotated physical and cultural maps inspired by 
examples seen from QGIS training videos. As a stumbling beginner I 
have already invested many hours trying to master the basics. However, 
before I invest many more hours and finessing maps I need to know 
urgently if I will have to pay copyright permission to use my maps in 
a publication. Am I being naive in thinking maps created become my own 
property and copyright just applies if I attempted to develop software 
using elements found through QGIS? The latter is my impression 
scrolling through terms and conditions. I.e maps produced are free and 
become my copyright in a publication?


Thank you in anticipation of your time.

Best wishes
Hamish Macdonald

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Re: [Qgis-user] Help Copyright advice ref maps produced for publications

[Paolo Cavallini]

Hi Hamish,

Il 31/03/20 09:34, Hamish Macdonald ha scritto:

> invest many more hours and finessing maps I need to know urgently if I
> will have to pay copyright permission to use my maps in a publication.
> Am I being naive in thinking maps created become my own property and
> copyright just applies if I attempted to develop software using elements
> found through QGIS? The latter is my impression scrolling through terms
> and conditions. I.e maps produced are free and become my copyright in a
> publication?

you have just to be careful about the ownership and licence of the data
you use to create your maps.
All the best.
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http://planet.qgis.org/planet/user/28/tag/qgis%20board/
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[Qgis-user] Help Copyright advice ref maps produced for publications

[Hamish Macdonald]

Good morning,

I am an historian looking to bring to life a work for publication
illustrated by annotated physical and cultural maps inspired by examples
seen from QGIS training videos. As a stumbling beginner I have already
invested many hours trying to master the basics. However, before I invest
many more hours and finessing maps I need to know urgently if I will have
to pay copyright permission to use my maps in a publication. Am I being
naive in thinking maps created become my own property and copyright just
applies if I attempted to develop software using elements found through
QGIS? The latter is my impression scrolling through terms and conditions.
I.e maps produced are free and become my copyright in a publication?

Thank you in anticipation of your time.

Best wishes
Hamish Macdonald
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Re: [Qgis-user] HELP - Saving a new Shape file layer.

[Kirk Schmidt]

Hi Edward:


Right click on the layer in the legend window and select export > save 
features as.



Kirk

On 1/21/2020 10:59 AM, Edward Molteno wrote:
Have just upgraded to version 3.10.1 from 2.18 and 2.16 after a long 
layoff from using QGIS and need to do some urgent work on QGIS.


Not sure what I am missing but can not save a new Shape file layer as 
R clicking does not bring up menu to save and no button on form either.


Please help.

Edward



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Re: [Qgis-user] HELP - Saving a new Shape file layer.

[Nicolas Cadieux]

Hi,

Right Click and use "export" or use the GDAL/Vector Conversion/Convert 
format in the Processing toolbox.  I don't see R as and option.  Perhaps 
you were using a plugin?


Nicolas

On 2020-01-21 9:59 a.m., Edward Molteno wrote:
Have just upgraded to version 3.10.1 from 2.18 and 2.16 after a long 
layoff from using QGIS and need to do some urgent work on QGIS.


Not sure what I am missing but can not save a new Shape file layer as 
R clicking does not bring up menu to save and no button on form either.


Please help.

Edward



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[Qgis-user] HELP - Saving a new Shape file layer.

[Edward Molteno]

Have just upgraded to version 3.10.1 from 2.18 and 2.16 after a long layoff
from using QGIS and need to do some urgent work on QGIS.

Not sure what I am missing but can not save a new Shape file layer as R
clicking does not bring up menu to save and no button on form either.

Please help.

Edward
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