Re: [Ql-Users] Qliberator problems

2013-04-02 Thread Timothy Swenson
On 4/2/2013 5:22 AM, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Might be worth looking at how programs like the Structured SuperBASIC Structured SuberBASIC (SSB) does not do any compiling. It is just a pre-processor that that takes a program, written without line numbers and with certain markers, and coverts that

Re: [Ql-Users] Qliberator problems

2013-04-02 Thread Ralf Reköndt
From: "Wolfgang Lenerz" From Ralf Reköndt This reminds me of the SMS2 "parser" program, which was a standalone program from TT in early times (still working). Is this the same? Maybe. I can't remember. It's quite probable, though. I think, Jochen can bring up a bit light here...(if he

Re: [Ql-Users] Qliberator problems

2013-04-02 Thread Tobias Fröschle
Am 02.04.2013 um 19:32 schrieb Wolfgang Lenerz: > >> All, >> Turbo does the very same thing, in my understanding - just with two >> different executables - parser_task and codegen_task, and the "intermediate >> file format" is not QSAVE, but something different - which is not officially >> do

Re: [Ql-Users] Qliberator problems

2013-04-02 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
From Ralf Reköndt This reminds me of the SMS2 "parser" program, which was a standalone program from TT in early times (still working). Is this the same? Maybe. I can't remember. It's quite probable, though. Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List

Re: [Ql-Users] Qliberator problems

2013-04-02 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
All, Turbo does the very same thing, in my understanding - just with two different executables - parser_task and codegen_task, and the "intermediate file format" is not QSAVE, but something different - which is not officially documented. If you use such a file as input for codegen_task, Turbo

Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQE v.3.15

2013-04-02 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: >> What is the difference between the Aurora, GoldCard & >> GoldCard_256colours .bins? > The normal goldcard doesn't contain 256 colours drivers, the ...8 does > contain them, aurora is for the aurora card. Well, you can't have 256 colours without aurora, so I, too, have no

[Ql-Users] Quanta News

2013-04-02 Thread Dilwyn Jones
I’m putting together the News pages for the latest Quanta magazines. If you have any news you’d like to see in print, please send them to me at news AT quanta DOT org DOT uk before the end of this week. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www

Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQE v.3.15

2013-04-02 Thread Bob Spelten
Op Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:21:23 +0200 schreef Wolfgang Lenerz : Hi, I just tried the new QXL version but M$DOS(W98) on old my PC claims the program is too big for the memory. The old v3.13 is running fine from M$DOS and was used to configure this v3.15. What exactly is the error? How much mem

Re: [Ql-Users] Qliberator problems

2013-04-02 Thread Tobias Fröschle
Am 01.04.2013 um 17:38 schrieb Wolfgang Lenerz: > L >> Turbo cannot choose the dataspace which might be needed in a program it is >> compiling. > >> You can either choose a specific dataspace on compilation or increase it >> after compilation. > > From within my (basic or compiled) program? >

Re: [Ql-Users] Qliberator problems

2013-04-02 Thread Ralf Reköndt
From: "Wolfgang Lenerz" I don(t know hox Structuerd Superbasic does it, the Baic linker does the following: It collates and numbers the source files, saving them as a normal basic file. then it calls a parser to parse that file and generate a _sav file. This reminds me of the SMS2 "parser"

Re: [Ql-Users] Qliberator problems

2013-04-02 Thread George Gwilt
On 2 Apr 2013, at 16:18, Norman Dunbar wrote: > I'd love to see Turbo being able to compile a QSAVE'd file, I'm not aware of > the internals of Turbo, yet, but I can't see too many problems with it? > Unless there's much to-ing and fro-ing in the SuperBasic area while compiling? Turbo uses the

Re: [Ql-Users] qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk back online

2013-04-02 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Sorry to hear your website was attacked Norman, but glad to hear you've been able to deal with it. I wish you a speedy recovery from your sickness. No doubt coincidence, but you may have noticed the contact message form has disappeared from my website. My inbox got flooded with all sorts of ho

Re: [Ql-Users] qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk back online

2013-04-02 Thread George Gwilt
On 2 Apr 2013, at 16:07, Norman Dunbar wrote: > my website is once more online Looks good. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm

Re: [Ql-Users] qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk back online

2013-04-02 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 04/02/2013 05:07 PM, Norman Dunbar wrote: Afternoon all, my website is once more online. I've been hacked for some unknown reason. Well, DOS'd rather than hacked. Glad to hear you're back on board! Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.

Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQE v.3.15

2013-04-02 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
Hi, I just tried the new QXL version but M$DOS(W98) on old my PC claims the program is too big for the memory. The old v3.13 is running fine from M$DOS and was used to configure this v3.15. What exactly is the error? How much memory does the computer have? What is the difference between the

Re: [Ql-Users] Qliberator problems

2013-04-02 Thread Norman Dunbar
Afternoon all, The following is based on assumptions - always dangerous - but I doubt that I'm far away from reality! I know what I'd rather write. The choices are: * A compiler that misses out the huge part of the process where a source file is tokenised (by the lexer) so all you need to b

Re: [Ql-Users] Qliberator problems

2013-04-02 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
Hi, Might be worth looking at how programs like the Structured SuperBASIC and BASIC Linker work to see if anything can be learned from those, perhaps. I don(t know hox Structuerd Superbasic does it, the Baic linker does the following: It collates and numbers the source files, saving them as

[Ql-Users] qdosmsq.dunbar-it.co.uk back online

2013-04-02 Thread Norman Dunbar
Afternoon all, my website is once more online. I've been hacked for some unknown reason. Well, DOS'd rather than hacked. As soon as I allow users to self-register, I get hit by shed loads of "people" registering which fills up my disc allowance, bandwidth and fills my own email inbox with "

Re: [Ql-Users] Qliberator problems

2013-04-02 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
Hi, The TURBO_TK command DATA_AREA can be used in a basic program to set the dataspace. The number following DATA_SPACE is the required amount in kilobytes. Ok, so each time I'd increse an array, i'd have to increasethe data_area at runtime? The program to be compiled must be loaded into

Re: [Ql-Users] Qliberator problems

2013-04-02 Thread Bob Spelten
Op Tue, 02 Apr 2013 14:22:37 +0200 schreef Dilwyn Jones : Does QLIB compile directly from a file? ... Might be worth looking at how programs like the Structured SuperBASIC and BASIC Linker work to see if anything can be learned from those, perhaps. I write all my SBasic, without line

Re: [Ql-Users] SMSQE v.3.15

2013-04-02 Thread Bob Spelten
Op Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:51:59 +0100 schreef Wolfgang Lenerz : Hi all, thanks to Marcel Kilgus, there are a certain number of bug fixes to SMSQE. V. 3.15 is on the web site. www.wlenerz.com/smsqe NEW: * You can now also download all binaries (except for QPC). * This new version also incl

Re: [Ql-Users] Qliberator problems

2013-04-02 Thread Dilwyn Jones
Does QLIB compile directly from a file? George, QLiberator cannot compile directly from a non-tokenized SuperBASIC program contained in a file (AFAIK).The source program needs to come either from a file in tokenized form (can be produced by QSAVE) or from the master SuperBASIC job in memory.

Re: [Ql-Users] Qliberator problems

2013-04-02 Thread tobias.froesc...@t-online.de
>The program to be compiled must be loaded into ram under Job 0. A Qsaved >program would first have to be loaded there before Turbo >will compile it. > >Does QLIB compile directly from a file? George, QLiberator cannot compile directly from a non-tokenized SuperBASIC program contained in a fil

Re: [Ql-Users] Qliberator problems

2013-04-02 Thread George Gwilt
On 1 Apr 2013, at 16:38, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: >> Turbo cannot choose the dataspace which might be needed in a program it is >> compiling. > >> You can either choose a specific dataspace on compilation or increase it >> after compilation. > > From within my (basic or compiled) program? > >