Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-31 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Bob Spelten wrote: >> But as Marcel has pointed out, the source of the problem may still be >> there. > 1) I ran the test again from a freshly unzipped QLE update and disabled my > default qpc.ini. Wolfgang has dug a bit further and it seems to be an issue in the screen driver. I will investigate

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-31 Thread Dilwyn Jones
The Qlib_run_336hpr error had not happened before (what is hpr anyway?). The Cascade_rc error has happened before but mostly not (?). hpr is the initials of Hans-Peter Recktenwald. I * think * this is a patched version of Qlib 3.36, which corrects and enhances a few things - more information

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-31 Thread Bob Spelten
Op Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:03:59 +0100 schreef Urs Koenig (QL) : (...) As written and showed in my videos, disabling QDT would help, but this is not the solution because QDT is nice to have it loaded. Changing the position of QPAC2 Files does also help as does changing of the

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-24 Thread Urs Koenig (QL)
Per wrote: > Urs, I get the freeze if I boot the system from a USB memory stick with the > QLE distribution, but only with SMSQmulator (as if I use QPC2, it takes its > configuration from my installed configuration.) However, if I use my own > QPC2 installation (4.02, w SMSQ/E 3.24) and boot

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-24 Thread Urs Koenig (QL)
Derek Stewart wrote: > I have tried to reproduce your failures on QPC2 and SMSQmulator8, I can > report that on my Fujitsu H700 Core i7 620 laptop with 4Gb ram running > Ubuntu 15.10, I can not reproduce the freezing. Did you try it with the configuration of QPC2 and SMSQmulator supplied in the

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-24 Thread Urs Koenig (QL)
Ralf Reköndt wrote: > as usual, REM out one Toolkit after another and try the same procedure. I've been through this already. At least partly. There are extensions which are essential. As written and showed in my videos, disabling QDT would help, but this is not the solution because QDT is nice

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-24 Thread Urs Koenig (QL)
Bob Spelten wrote > I repeated your process to the letter with SMSQ/m (8217) and QPC2 > (4.02/3.22) and an unchanged copy QLE.win from the Nov.2015 update. Both > did NOT freeze on access to WIN1_. It is essential that you use the complete QL/E, not only the QLE.win. Especially the screen settings

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-24 Thread Urs Koenig (QL)
Marcel Kilgus wrote: > Okay, I can reproduce it. But the crash happens in the screen driver. > The problem is that SMSQ/E does not have any kind of memory protection > and you're loading a quadrillion extensions at boot-time. Any one of them > could be responsible of corrupting the memory in a way

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-24 Thread Urs Koenig (QL)
Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: > I downloaded QLE from your website. Great. :-) > used SMSQmulator 8 from that distribution, with the SMSQE that came with > it. It is essential that the configuration of the QL/E package is used, especially the screen settings. One needs to make sure that local/personal

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-22 Thread derek
From: Marcel Kilgus <ql-us...@mail.kilgus.net> Date: 22/03/2016 14:37 (GMT+00:00) To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing Derek Stewart wrote: > I am sorry for the incorrect conclusions. > > I merely said I could not get it to free

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-22 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Derek Stewart wrote: > I am sorry for the incorrect conclusions. > > I merely said I could not get it to freeze on my system, this is a > personal option. > > But I did not expect to my comments thrust down my throat. My apologies, I didn't mean it to be personal. It probably came across harsher

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-22 Thread Derek Stewart
I am sorry for the incorrect conclusions. I merely said I could not get it to freeze on my system, this is a personal option. But I did not expect to my comments thrust down my throat. Regards, Derek On 22/03/16 13:04, Marcel Kilgus wrote: Derek Stewart wrote: The common thing in your

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-22 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Derek Stewart wrote: > The common thing in your You Tube Videos is you are using a Windows > operating System. > > If I can not get QPC2 and SMSQmulator to freeze then the fault lies on > the host operating system. No, no and no. This is a false conclusion. When your choice is "the bug is in a

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-22 Thread pjwitte
Urs, I get the freeze if I boot the system from a USB memory stick with the QLE distribution, but only with SMSQmulator (as if I use QPC2, it takes its configuration from my installed configuration.) However, if I use my own QPC2 installation (4.02, w SMSQ/E 3.24) and boot from QLE.win, the

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-22 Thread Derek Stewart
Hi Urs, I have tried to reproduce your failures on QPC2 and SMSQmulator8, I can report that on my Fujitsu H700 Core i7 620 laptop with 4Gb ram running Ubuntu 15.10, I can not reproduce the freezing. The common thing in your You Tube Videos is you are using a Windows operating System. If I

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-21 Thread ql
Hi QLers, I’m between work and home and did find some time to make some short videos about the freeze case. Here they are: QL/E (v3.11, SMSQ/E v3.22, QPAC2 v4.02) freezes! http://youtu.be/wcngRwkvc5w QL/E (v3.11, SMSQ/E v3.22, SMSQmulator v2.12) freezes! http://youtu.be/HZ9jj162UN4 QL/E

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-21 Thread Ralf Reköndt
Ooops, it has taken 30 minutes to put that in the group. Seems, there is something wrong. - Original Message - From: "Ralf Reköndt" <ralf.rekoe...@t-online.de> To: <ql-us...@q-v-d.com> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] WIN dri

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-21 Thread Ralf Reköndt
Urs, as usual, REM out one Toolkit after another and try the same procedure. Cheers...Ralf - Original Message - From: "Marcel Kilgus" Okay, I can reproduce it. But the crash happens in the screen driver. The problem is that SMSQ/E does not have any kind of memory protection and

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-20 Thread Bob Spelten
Op Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:54:07 +0100 schreef Urs Koenig (QL) : (...) Last Thursday I was repeatedly able to reproduce the freeze using my QL/E v3.13 wip (work-in-progress). I then reduced the steps needed to get the freeze. In the end I can say you can get the freeze when doing

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-20 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Urs Koenig (QL) wrote: > Because we have a Windows Freeze case at work which is very hard to trace > and analyse (visitors of the ZX-TEAM meeting will know) I wanted to at least > catch the QL/E Freeze case. > Last Thursday I was repeatedly able to reproduce the freeze using my QL/E > v3.13 wip

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-20 Thread derek
sort of licence. Regards Derek Original message From: Wolfgang Lenerz <wlen...@free.fr> Date: 20/03/2016 16:42 (GMT+00:00) To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing Hi, I downloaded QLE from your website. used SMSQmulator

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-20 Thread Urs Koenig (QL)
Marcel Kilgus wrote: > > Yesterday I had a similar freeze/crash but I put that down to a fault > > in the program I am updating. > > No QPAC2 File access at that moment. > > So today's QPC2 session started OK but at the time of the crash I was > > using Files (?). > > There are about a billion

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-20 Thread Graeme Gregory
On Sun, 20 Mar 2016, at 10:59 AM, Bob Spelten wrote: > Op Sun, 20 Mar 2016 10:23:27 +0100 schreef Derek Stewart : > > > Hi, > > > > This sounds like a Windows Feature or bug? > > > W$ is often very busy in the background, not clear to me what with. > Recently I have noticed

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-20 Thread Bob Spelten
Op Sun, 20 Mar 2016 10:23:27 +0100 schreef Derek Stewart : Hi, This sounds like a Windows Feature or bug? W$ is often very busy in the background, not clear to me what with. Recently I have noticed sometimes a delay when opening Files before the list is produced. Is that W$

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-20 Thread Derek Stewart
Hi, This sounds like a Windows Feature or bug? I have never had a lockup of SMSQ/E since using a Gold Card Version in the mid 1990s I use Linux and SMSQmulator, QPC2, QEmulator and they have never locked out any WIN drives. Regards, Derek On 19/03/16 03:57, Timothy Swenson wrote: I

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-19 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Bob Spelten wrote: > Yesterday I had a similar freeze/crash but I put that down to a fault in > the program I am updating. > No QPAC2 File access at that moment. > So today's QPC2 session started OK but at the time of the crash I was > using Files (?). There are about a billion ways to crash

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-19 Thread Bob Spelten
Op Fri, 18 Mar 2016 21:17:33 +0100 schreef pjwitte : Sorry Urs, Bob, I cannot confirm this. To my mind the Qpac2 "apps" are some of the most stable programs written for QDOS and SMSQ/E ;) Sometimes stuff just happens, but if it happens a lot Id look elsewhere.. Per Two

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-19 Thread Bob Spelten
Op Fri, 18 Mar 2016 16:29:03 +0100 schreef ql : Just days ago I experienced the same. In my case QPC2 was still in the Windows Task Manager. I killed it there and then a fresh start opened the QXL.win and properly booted up. In my case I got the same problem day by day.

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Lenerz
On 03/18/2016 04:12 PM, Bob Spelten wrote:Hi, the first thing to do with windowsin these cases is to reboot windows It sounds as if the file was still marked as opened by another program. Try copying it to another directory. HTH Wolfgang Hi All, Today, while working in QPC2 on my W$7

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-18 Thread Timothy Swenson
I agree with Wolfgang in that there probably was an outstanding file lock on the .WIN file. The file lock would keep other programs from writing to the .WIN file, but it would allow programs to read from it. This is why you could copy it and why SMSQmulator said it was read-only. The reboot

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-18 Thread ql
Just days ago I experienced the same. In my case QPC2 was still in the Windows Task Manager. I killed it there and then a fresh start opened the QXL.win and properly booted up. In my case I got the same problem day by day. After investigating it looks like there's a bug in QPAC2 Files which

[Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-18 Thread Bob Spelten
Hi All, Today, while working in QPC2 on my W$7 system, SMSQ/E suddenly froze. No mouse movement, no keys and Sysmon had stopped. I could kill the QPC2 task with the [x] button but it would not restart my boot. QPC2 & SMSQ/E do start but WIN1_ cannot be mounted anymore ("not found"). I then

Re: [Ql-Users] WIN drive gone missing

2016-03-18 Thread Marcel Kilgus
Bob Spelten wrote: > Does anyone know what happened here and how I can fix this? Difficult to say. First check with task manager if there is a zombie QPC2 process still hanging around. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List