- Original Message -
From: Malcolm Cadman
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 6:42 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
So, just to extend the debate around Quanta itself a bit further ...
make the effort to attend a local sub-group, where you can.
I organise the London Quanta Group
Geoff Wicks wrote:
So, just to extend the debate around Quanta itself a bit further ...
make the effort to attend a local sub-group, where you can.
I organise the London Quanta Group ... and we just get on with it.
A few members can keep things going. Non-attenders don't ... :-)
At 10:56 21/11/2004 +, you wrote:
Arnold Clarke egg hatching machine (controlled by QL) might make an
article, please persuade Arnie to write one, but when I send articles
to Quanta they do not get published. Our next meeting is at 1pm
today and is an important one.
--
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 at 10:31:03, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote:
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On 19 Nov 2004 at 22:47, David Tubbs wrote:
No person into computing is without access to the net.
Not true.
I personally know at least one such person - and he lives in France, has a
QXL but only in an older PC
On 20 Nov 2004 at 9:36, Tony Firshman wrote:
So do I. This may be the same French user, and his only electronic
contact is via my BBS.
BC?
He came with us to QL2004.
Wolfgang
www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com
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- Original Message -
From: Duncan Neithercut [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:04 PM
Subject: RE: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
QL internet access via existing software and a UNIX shell account has been
there since the mid 1990s. See the DJ
No.. You are so wrong. I know two people in my locale who are happy with
their Trump Card QL's - and nothing else!
BK
- Original Message -
From: David Tubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
At 20:21 19
Where, where? :)
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From: Brian Kemmett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
Here Here!!
- Original Message -
From: Duncan Neithercut [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED
- a real web-page, because the existing one is rather a shame
- also web access to the sw-library(sending floppies by snail mail is
rather funny nowadays ...) blown up with ALL available freeware shareware
wolfgang
In principle, I'd have no objection to my PD Library CD being
Jim Hunkins wrote:
Yes, a real web site could do the following:
1) current QL activities, shows, etc.
2) ongoing discussions with Quanta
3) mirror this and/or lists
4) distribution of the library (can be done securely by membership ID,
etc)
5) offer programming help files (to encourage
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
The magazine could also be provided (by email) in say pdf form, again
saving money.
Tony
Hmmm, reminds me too much of last night
On 18 Nov 2004 at 19:53, gwicks wrote:
(...)
I know a lot of our members do not subscribe to the list,
do you know why?
Is it a technical problem (no internet access) or are they just not interested?
However I am sure the really important thing is to find a way of investing
Quanta's
James Hunkins schrieb:
1) current QL activities, shows, etc.
2) ongoing discussions with Quanta
3) mirror this and/or lists
4) distribution of the library (can be done securely by membership ID, etc)
5) offer programming help files (to encourage more programmers)
6) perhaps offer programmers help
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 10:13:54, wrote:
(ref:
[EMAIL PROTECTED])
The magazine could also be provided (by email) in say pdf form, again
saving money.
Tony
Hmmm, reminds me too much of last night where I was trying to put WinXP
onto my PC after having its new hard disk fitted.
A couple of
Tony Firshman schrieb:
The magazine could also be provided (by email) in say pdf form, again
saving money.
no, you could get it on your members area!
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 17:03:11, wolfgang mühlegger wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Tony Firshman schrieb:
The magazine could also be provided (by email) in say pdf form, again
saving money.
no, you could get it on your members area!
You mean download options?
Yes that is probably easier to
Actually a good way of doing this is to allow users to opt-in for an
email reminder that a new magazine copy is available and then they
could follow a link to the web site to get it.
This reduces the amount of email and helps people with dial up
connections.
Cheers,
jim
On Nov 19, 2004, at
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, Tarquin Mills wrote:
How about Quill format (or other QL software format), but why should I
pay for a e-zine?
Because you're paying for the content. By offering to receive the content
electronically, you're graciously saving Quanta money, which they can then
direct
In message
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
SNIP
Your CD-ROM is not responding to the standard drivers, please insert
the drivers CD to install the manufacturer-supplied drivers. (or
message to that effect).
(Reminds of me of Keyboard failure, press F1 to continue.)
Err, OK, no CD
- Original Message -
From: Wolfgang Lenerz
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
On 18 Nov 2004 at 19:53, gwicks wrote:
(...)
I know a lot of our members do not subscribe to the list,
do you know why?
Is it a technical problem (no internet access
- Original Message -
From: Duncan Neithercut
Subject: RE: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
Thanks for the summary below. I have not had the time this week to monitor
all this discussion - that is a big job for the weekend.
Can I remind everyone again. You don't have to convince John Gilpin
- Original Message -
From: Brian Kemmett
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
as you say in this email, a lot of the membership is probably without
internet access, or even access to email.I think the ONE biggest leap
forward this community can take is to develop, or finance
Tarquin Mills schrieb:
How about Quill format (or other QL software format), but why should I
pay for a e-zine?
bcause you pay not only for printing but also for the writing
it is much more work to get your thougts written down than to print a
couple of magazines.
wolfgang
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 19:39:23, Roy wood wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tony Firshman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
SNIP
In other words, leave PDF out of the QL equation please Tony!
'Machine readable' was what I meant. Sorry it spurned that reply
Dilwyn.
I don't
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 20:58:49, Bruce N wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Take a look at www.quanta.org.uk , there is a new item on the main
page.
Nice one. This is a -paper- questionnaire, and clearly not designed for
the website. It actually says -on the website page- :
The questionnaire is
- Original Message -
From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
- Original Message -
From: Tony Firshman
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
The magazine could also be provided (by email
- Original Message -
From: wolfgang mühlegger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
gwicks schrieb:
Can I remind everyone again. You don't have to convince John Gilpin and
myself of the need for changes
- Original Message -
From: Brian Kemmett
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
The problem is Quanta IS JUST sitting on a stack of cash - I have
contributed to their coffers since 1986!
To Geoff Wicks, thanks for the concern, but you tell me, what
On 16 Nov 2004 at 23:10, John Gilpin wrote:
Quanta sponsored Workshops are covered by Public Liability Insurance until
16th April 2005 when the policy is due for renewal. And it is still getting
more expensive every time we renew!!
Even though, I presume, you never had to call on the
On 16 Nov 2004 at 20:11, gwicks wrote:
The trouble is that you can't trust any damn lawyer! (Quickly dives under
desk.)
No, of course not, only trust the good ones...
grin
Wolfgang
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On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 14:24:42 +0100, you wrote:
On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think isnurance might be a major reason why(...)
Just a quick question: was QL 2004 insured?
Wolfgang
Yes, the school took full responsibility. We were, in the school's
opinion, trustfull people
In a message dated 17/11/2004 11:50:33 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would have thought that with that hat on the question would not be
necessary.
Not necessarily easy - you can get a list of the email addresses subscribed
to the user list, but Quanta does not necessarily
Resending this email cos it does not appear to have appeared on the list for
some reason.
In a message dated 16/11/2004 20:19:27 GMT Standard Time, dent freesurf.ch
writes:
How about testing if a £10 subscription would bring in new
members by launching a special offer for
Geoff Wicks wrote : I don't think a reduction to £10 would bring in
any new members, but £4 per member invested in QL development might
encourage one or two more people to join.
I suspect it might have been better for a 'first year £4 off your membership'
offer, but it isn't so long ago
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 at 07:15:23, wrote:
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
In a message dated 17/11/2004 11:50:33 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would have thought that with that hat on the question would not be
necessary.
Not necessarily easy - you can get a list of the email addresses
Quanta sponsored Workshops are covered by Public Liability Insurance
until
16th April 2005 when the policy is due for renewal. And it is still getting
more expensive every time we renew!!
Even though, I presume, you never had to call on the insurance. Ha,
who said Lawyers were
to a workshop is
nigh on a major undertaking, especially since the Bristol sub-branch
folded... so, dead right, there is no return for the hefty financial outlay
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re
, 2004 8:18 AM
Subject: RE: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
BTW what happened about the upgraded Perfection that is limited to a few
individuals
because of worries about ownership of this no longer for sale WP by a
defunct company -
Duncan Neithercut
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED
On 17 Nov 2004 at 14:08, Tony Firshman wrote:
Sorry, Rich. I know you are tied into an unconfigurable AOL mailer, but
I reckon you could handle the problem of quoting text a mite better.
Oh yes, please!
Wolfgang
www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com
In a message dated 17/11/2004 16:10:24 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 17/11/2004 15:59:25 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 17 Nov 2004 at 14:08, Tony Firshman wrote:
Sorry, Rich. I know you are tied into an unconfigurable AOL
In a message dated 17/11/2004 16:17:24 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
... and ditto for the rest of the email.
It was, I am afraid, pretty impossible to work out what was what.
Tony
RM said:
I agree - when I type the reply in AOL browser I see quoted text as either
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 at 11:09:35, wrote:
Rich Mellor---^
(ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED])
In a message dated 17/11/2004 15:59:25 GMT Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
^ I hope the user group archive removes these email addresses.
On 17 Nov 2004 at 14:08, Tony Firshman
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian
Kemmett
Sent: 17 November 2004 16:00
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
Yes Duncan .. Its all gone VERY QUIET about that one again ... Flurry of hot
air a few weeks back, but I've
the scene along at the moment.
Duncan Neithercut
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian
Kemmett
Sent: 17 November 2004 16:06
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
Well, I was(am) until the current subscription ends.
Brian
Message -
From: Duncan Neithercut [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:42 PM
Subject: RE: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
Dont walk away : Quanta is sitting on a stack of cash that should be used
for the benefit of Quanta members and QL users in general, I guess
: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 8:42 PM
Subject: RE: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
Yes, I dont quite understand that if you already own a legal copy of
Perfection why
cannot be allowed to get hold of the upgrade. Happy to provide proof of
purchase.
DP are not trading so loss of profit should not be an issue, loss
Rich,
I find your quoting - or rather lack of it - difficult to follow. Please
could you do something about it?
Per
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
In a message dated 17
At 14:08 17/11/2004 +, you wrote:
The quoted text above looks actually -slightly- better than it appeared
when I was reading it.
What I saw was
---
I would have thought that with that hat on the question would not be
necessary.
NO PARA BREAK MAKES FOR CONFUSION.
Not necessarily
Neithercut
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of gwicks
Sent: 15 November 2004 19:48
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
- Original Message -
From: Tarquin Mills
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
Let me remind everyone
On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think isnurance might be a major reason why(...)
Just a quick question: was QL 2004 insured?
Wolfgang
www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com
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In a message dated 16/11/2004 20:19:27 GMT Standard Time, dent freesurf.ch
writes:
How about testing if a £10 subscription would bring in new
members by launching a special offer for new subscribers at £10 ?
Jon.
A good idea, but I think the main problem with attracting new members is
- Original Message -
From: Duncan Neithercut
Subject: RE: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
Geoff Wicks wrote : I don't think a reduction to £10 would bring in
any new members, but £4 per member invested in QL development might
encourage one or two more people to join.
So reinvigorating Quanta
- Original Message -
From: dilwyn.jones
Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
I think isnurance might be a major reason why it's best done under the
Quanta banner, although there might not be any reason why the committee
couldn't delegate it's organisation of the QL2005 to Geoff
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From: Wolfgang Lenerz
Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think isnurance might be a major reason why(...)
Just a quick question: was QL 2004 insured?
That's a question for Sin_QL_Air. I assume
Dent wrote:
How about testing if a £10 subscription would bring in new
members by launching a special offer for new subscribers at £10 ?
This could lose as many members as it gains. I suspect a fair
proportion of the current paying membership members through inertia. A
pound or so a month is
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From: Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
Dent wrote:
How about testing if a £10 subscription would bring in new
members by launching a special offer for new subscribers
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From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
- Original Message -
From: Wolfgang Lenerz
Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
On 16 Nov 2004 at 12:02, [EMAIL
Just as a passing thought, does anyone have any idea as to how many of you
guys who contribute to this list are current members of Quanta?
Regards,
John Gilpin.
With my Membership Secretary's hat on.
I would have thought that with that hat on the question would not be
necessary.
But seriously,
Hello,
Roy wood wrote:
Just to put another issue into the mix here, John Mason called me last
week and asked if I would organise the 2005 Hove show so it could be the
AGM. I have looked into dates for this that would fit Quanta's schedule
and I am preparing to book the hall for 17th April.
Geoff Wicks wrote:
In other words two thirds of the committee can be passive and get away with
it. The result is that you have disasters like the famous Oct/Nov/Dec/Jan
2003/2004 magazine. It was easy to make Paul Merdinian the scapegoat for
this. In fact the committee were far more culpable
- Original Message -
From: Tarquin Mills
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
Let me remind everyone once again that the Quanta subscription is
currently £4 per year higher than is necessary to run the
organisation. If Quanta are not prepared to spend this £4 on QL2005,
what
- Original Message -
From: Roy wood
Subject: Re: [ql-users] Re: QL2005
Just to put another issue into the mix here, John Mason called me last
week and asked if I would organise the 2005 Hove show so it could be the
AGM. I have looked into dates for this that would fit Quanta's
Just to put another issue into the mix here, John Mason called me last
week and asked if I would organise the 2005 Hove show so it could be
the AGM. I have looked into dates for this that would fit Quanta's
schedule and I am preparing to book the hall for 17th April.
This may have some bearing
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