RE: [ql-users] QL Stick
Re: QL Stick.. It's a Windows problem and there's nothing you can do about it - as far as I know - it seems to get confused when you move it between different PC's and it just can't cope anymore. I'd argue that comment. I think its more to do with the quality and manufacture of your stick. The disgo brand (I work from 'em, so am probably biased!) are guaranteed to work on any USB enabled environment - I have used mine on linux, Apple Mac, and win 95,98,Me,XP home and Pro, 2000, NT4, and various server editions and SBS's all within minutes of each other with no problems - at consumer shows - and our returns rate is 0.02%, and most of these are user errors rather than hardware errors. Mind you, isn't that the point of a 'stick' anyway ? Of course it is. Pointless having a portable device if only one machine can use it!! The idea is you can access files on any machine with a USB port. The quality of the USB sticks out there are very varied. Cost cutting in this market is huge, so quality suffers as the illusion is they all do the same job, so there is no difference. Talking to our resellers, the acer and fujitsu ones are cronically bad for failing totally, not saving data properly, or not working on certain systems. Those manufactured by M-Systems (ie. Using their chipsets) are brilliant. Disgo is one of these, and also bUSBi in the UK. There are a few issues around the Disgo caps coming off, (now solved on the new models) but I've only ever seen one that doesn't work. On another note we've just launched the X-Key - a disgo with 256-bit data encryption, and a safe environment application. You can use one of these in an internet café, drag and drop stuff onto the café machines desktop, using the PC as you would at home, and when you pull out the xkey, it automatically deletes all traces that you were ever there. Amazing product, but not cheap - about 5 times the price of an ordinary disgo. We also do USB keys with fingerprint recognition on them. END PLUG :-) Cheers, Darren. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Newbie with some questions...
I'd be glad if someone could help me for a good start... I'm curious and want to spend some fun time with this machine - don't want to spend much money on hardware and stuff. Hopefully you would have to - is there some generous sort out there with a disk interface and the like they'd want to give to a good home?? Whoops... I meant NOT have to. :-)) You can use the QL as is, but a lot of decent software needs more memory or additional files (TK2 or SMSQ/E). ...They again, you can have a lot of fun with some microdrive stuff on an original unexpanded QL too. A good Idea is if anyone has any microrive software they no longer want, to send it on maybe...?? Darren. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Spelin'
Yes and No - I have it but its buried on the hard drive of my PC back in my Parents house in Wicklow, some 200 miles from here!! I must see can I dig it up somewhere. Darren. -Original Message- From: Dilwyn Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 June 2005 17:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Spelin' A few years ago, Darren sent me something about the EU forcing a standardisation of English spellings. After a few years of change, the initial English text looked (to a non-German speaker) exactly like written German but readable as English. Robert's example (to me anyway) looks more like written Dutch. Do you still have that one Darren? -- Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: Robert Newson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Spelin' Dilwyn Jones wrote: Grrr. Who made the English language so difficult??? Because it is so difficult and some of us take the trouble to learn it correctly we don't mangle it like our cousins across the pond - especially their leader. Like this suggestion (from across the pond?): A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling by Mark Twain For example, in Year 1 that useless letter c would be dropped to be replased either by k or s, and likewise x would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which c would be retained would be the ch formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform w spelling, so that which and one would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish y replasing it with i and Iear 4 might fiks the g/j anomali wonse and for all. Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants. Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez c, y and x -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais ch, sh, and th rispektivli. Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 24/06/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 24/06/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Spelin'
That reminds me of a story in RTE TV here in Ireland many years ago. Similar Situation, but it was the bloke who wrote up the autocue for the newsreaders who was a little disgruntled. In one news story about a post office robbery the newsreader read the autocue:- and the postmistress was held at gunpoint by two men, each carrying sawn off shitguns Darren. -Original Message- From: Tony Firshman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 June 2005 22:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Spelin' On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 at 20:21:57, gwicks wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I once made two lovely mistakes in a document I wrote about a salary agreement for my trade union. It was in the pre-WP days but a spell checker would not have helped. Problems of staffing not caused by bad management appeared as Problems of staffing not caused by bed management and Improved starting points for probation officers appeared as Improved starting pints for probation officers. My favourite was a disgruntled secretary who was used as a typist in Ford KD operations in the late 60s. We produced charts with Shipping Date These were typed by her as Shitting Date and not spotted. We were -sure- she did it intentionally - t is an awful long way from p. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Spelin'
Roy! Do you mean our beloved Bertie? I'm shocked :-) Darren. -Original Message- From: Roy wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 June 2005 23:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Spelin' In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP Grrr. Who made the English language so difficult??? Because it is so difficult and some of us take the trouble to learn it correctly we don't mangle it like our cousins across the pond - especially their leader. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Spelin'
Or you fumble fingered while typing demise, and it added it to the dictionary by mistake - c instead of d - they are quite near on the keyboard? Darren. -Original Message- From: Tony Firshman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 June 2005 12:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Spelin' On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 at 09:01:58, Dilwyn Jones wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) but there is one word I don't recognise: CEMISE Anyone know if it's a valid word? Means nothing to me! Will probably be on my mind all day now until I get home to look in a dictionary. Only almost an acronym I think: common management information service element Maybe it was meant to be Chemise (woman's loose fitting shirt) Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Spelin'
I did the same. I am sure there are different M$ Word spellcheck setups, as mine found rong and shure to be incorrect spellings. I asked it to look up chequer using the online dictionary feature in outlook, and it actually found cheque, saying it was a alternative to check in UK finance terminology. So, just as we always thought - pea seas are crap :-)) Darren. -Original Message- From: Dilwyn Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 June 2005 09:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Spelin' Just out of curiousity I tried it in Word (no QTYPon this machine at work). No objection apart from the word 'chequer'. The text contains mostly words which are correct in a spell checking sense but which some of Geoff's programs might violently object to, a bit like correcting a Welshman's English perhaps! He he. Dilwyn Jones From: John Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/06/20 Mon PM 07:39:04 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] Spelin' I think Geoff might like this. Eye halve a spelling chequer It came with my pea sea It plainly marques four my revue Miss steaks eye kin knot sea. Eye strike a quay and type a word And weight four it two say Weather eye am rong oar rite It shows me strait aweigh. As soon as a mist ache is maid It nose bee four two long And eye can put the error rite Its rare lea ever rong. Eye halve run this poem threw it I am shure your pleased two no Its letter perfect awl the weigh My chequer tolled me sew! John Taylor ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick
Yep. Tooling costs the earth. And, with a lot of companies we work for, the tooling plans are either sold to them, or destroyed, so that further ones cant be made, should the company have wished a limited edition of whatever device they commissioned. I'm asked one of the guys in the know to look at the back catalogue to see if we have a regtangular case there, but I doubt it. Even if we did, you'd probably find the rights to it don't belong to us anymore, but to the company that asked for it. Ho Hum Darren. -Original Message- From: Tony Firshman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 May 2005 14:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL on Stick On Fri, 20 May 2005 at 11:49:05, Darren Branagh wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) That would be lovely, a real 3D shaped USB Stick with the microdrives being the USB plug cover cap. I can probably get those purpose made, but at a 100 print run, expect to pay about 2,000 quid each at least!! Exactly. The tooling cost of the real QL case was, I think, £30,000 in the 80s. (we did one in the shape and colour of a human finger last month - the fingernail removed to show the USB connector - very classy!) I think the print run for those was about 25,000 units, was for a US Telecoms company. Mind you if there is tooling for a rectangular case, then that might be cost effective. Isn't the tooling the really expensive bit? Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick
Yes, you're missing something!! :-) We where talking of getting a mounded case made in the shape of a QL. Could be done, but for 100 or so units, would cost the earth. The sticky label idea wouldn't work - they'd wear off in about 5 mins of throwing them about, and the stick is not square, its tapered and slightly rounded at the ends - a label would crease and look awful. We can print directly onto the stick, the same way promotional pens and keyrings are done, and it looks great. But it's a minimum order of 100. Cheers, Darren. Am I missing something here, or could Darren just get some transparent sticky labels (e.g. from Avery) and laser print a QL picture or something onto them and wrap it around the body of the QL Stick? Dilwyn Jones That would be lovely, a real 3D shaped USB Stick with the microdrives being the USB plug cover cap. I can probably get those purpose made, but at a 100 print run, expect to pay about 2,000 quid each at least!! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.14 - Release Date: 20/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: RE: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software
Sounds good to me. I completely forgot about Abandonware in PC terms. I think we should make all these unknown status programs available in a site for download, labelled abandonware, and on the head of the downloader be it. God, we're talking about 10-15 year old QL programs here. Hardly a market for em, and nobody is going to get rich. There is a lot of decent software in this category, and it's a shame to see it sit idle when people could be getting some use from it. Cheers, Darren. -Original Message- From: Duncan Neithercut [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 May 2005 20:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RE: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software It bugs me also. See rest of world : Computer Active computer magazine 12th to 25th May feature on how to find and play vintage PC games. They mention ww.abandonia.com a site for freeware, shareware and so called abandonware == programs no longer sold or supported by its developer. They note that abandonware is technically illegal but that the copyright holders are not harmed financially by this distribution of discontinued software. It happens in PC land where the market money amd lawyers are so much bigger and agressive. Why then are the theoretical rights of absentee copright holders in the QL world where the market is zip according to all our traders such a mega issue? No one can be harmed when sources/modifications are released where there is no market. How about this - even in a PC 100% of zero is always zero. When will the upgrade of Perfection be release in DWJ web site. Duncan Neithercut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of gwicks Sent: 17 May 2005 22:17 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software - Original Message - From: Darren Branagh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:43 PM Subject: RE: RE: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software This is one of the many things that bugs the hell out of me. I wish there was a statute of limitations or similar on software, whereby after x years the stuff became free. I'm sure freddy would agree to releasing it as freeware, or certainly for a giveaway price. I mean, what real use is a piece of 10 year old QL Software other than retro/curiosity value? You're hardly gonna run the world with it... There is so much good usable software out there and nobody knows its user status - is it freeware, charityware, commercial, or what? And if we had some certainty on a lot of this, a lot of users may be attracted back or stay with the QL to use them, purely as tinkerers. I can pick up a copy of PC World, Computer Shopper, PC Pro or any other PC Magazine and find a pile of software (often once costing hundreds of pounds) stuck to the front cover for the 4.99 cover price, and much of this is less than 2-3 years of age. You usually find v.3 or whatever on the cover disc with an offer to get the new v.4 inside at a reduced cost - yet here we are debating the status of software that hasn't been sold at all, never mind updated, for over a decade. Why are people so reluctant to give this stuff away? There is no money in it anymore. Just ask any trader :-) END RANT/ Don't forget Freddy V. may have sold the software, but that does not mean he is the copyright holder. I have said this many times before on this list. There are doubts about the copyright position of several of the ancilliary programs that formed part of the total Perfection package. When I enquired many years ago, no one was sure of the exact copyright status of Spellchecker, for example. If my memory serves me correctly when Turbo became PD permission had to be sought not just from Freddy V., but also the various authors, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
` John, I've been in contact with John Mason already. Suject to a suitable business plan, and committee approval, I think QUANTA will probably contribute to the idea. John Mason seemed in favour of the idea. Darren. -Original Message- From: John Gilpin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 May 2005 19:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software behaving badly Is anyone else from QUANTA following this thread? Could we offer to buy a block of them for our members who are not in receipt of QLToday (where it will no doubt be advertised) and who are not regular workshop attendees? Your thoughts gentlemen? John Gilpin. Quanta Treasurer - Original Message - From: Bill Cable [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 6:06 PM Subject: RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly On Thu, 19 May 2005, Darren Branagh wrote: Well, that's a probable 4 - only 96 to go :-)) Hi Darren, Although I will buy 2, if you think the 15 pounds (~$30) price is accurate then I will pledge to buy 10 if you needed me to. If you can get several other pledges then your risk will be reduced enough so you might give it a try. It will be a lot of work to bundle the software with a good interface but I bet there is enough of a market to consume 100 units over time. There could be a linux version too. Great Christmas presents to those wayward QLers we all know. Of course once a buyer has one he could easily make copies for the price of the stick but a logo on yours would make them special. -- Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Undelete
Well, if you already have all the titles as you say, and have already invested hundreds in DP products over the years, I personally cant see the problem in someone supplying you with the missing disks. I would, but unfortunately mine are buried in a cardboard box 200 miles away in my parents house... Darren. -Original Message- From: Stuart Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 May 2005 00:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] Undelete Dear Ffibys, I must confess that I did not buy the Collection as such until now. The situation is as follows. Around 10 years ago, and for some years previous, I purchased many individual titles of DP's programs. I guess I had around 30-40% of the complete set, at a cost of several hundred pounds. By then, the PC was slowly taking over, and the idea of buying the rest as a job lot in the form of the Collection, on a limited budget, didn't appeal. Subsequent to that, I purchased QPC2, and like you, using the virtual win_ disks, copied all my floppies and microdrives to a win_ file. Unfortunately, in a moment of madness, I accidentally used WDEL_ and deleted the wrong tree. By the time I realized, it was too late... Some of the floppies, where there entire contents were copied, were thrown away, others had deleted files (I still have these). Since then, I have purchased, second hand, a copy of the DP collection itself. Unfortunately, only 6 of the 10 disks were present, though the remainder of DP's programs are on around 30 floppy disks as individual titles. What I would like is a copy of the missing disks, numbers QL5, QL6, QL7, and QL10. In practice, I have all the titles, but not in the form I'd like (i.e. nice and neat). If you or anyone else could help me out, I'd be grateful. I do understand the copyright issue, but in view of the foregoing, and the 10 year gap, and the practical realities of the programs being effectively obsolete, I hope the request could be considered reasonably, rather than creating a furore over rights and wrongs! Regards, Stuart ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Undelete
If the did you delete the entire Win file itself or just its contents? If you deleted the Win file, you can use any one of umpteen PC file recovery programs to get that back.. If it was the contents, it's a little harder. There are a few file recovery programs for the QL, though I have never tried any - thankfully never had any need to - apart from Cartridge Doctor back in the days of microdrives. Dilwyn - are there any in your PD library? I recall some in the SJPD catalogue years ago, and possibly some in the Qubbesoft library too. Cheers, Darren. -Original Message- From: Stuart Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 May 2005 01:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] Undelete Gulp! I'd forgotten that programs are harder to recover. I remember using the LRESPR/SEXEC pairs to save such recovered files, with the file length and data length being set by trial and error. I haven't written to the WIN_ files since deleting the contents, so they should be recoverable. Dependent on what happens to my grovel for replacement discs, I may try it. Regarding the floppy recovery, I'll have to digest what you've said first! Stuart ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
Secondly, if I buy 100, I can get them printed with a logo of our choice, so I could get them with a QUANTA logo on, on maybe Sinclair in the famous block font. Makes the thing a touch more personal I think. How about an image of a QL? It is roughly the right shape with the cover. Absolutely. http://www.mydisgo.com/brand_disgo.php They allow you to upload your logo and see what it looks like on one. But yes, anything that can be saved in the correct format (some sort of photoshop or illustrator format I think) can be put on the disgos, so a pic of a QL is possible. We just need to agree on what it is. This is the big question. Of the people on this list for instance, how many would buy one? Me OK. So maybe this is doable. I've got quite a bit of feedback, based on the emails I have sold about a dozen already, which is encouraging, so I'll pass that all on to QUANTA, and hopefully we can make this a reality. Cheers, Darren. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] New email address and address
The other option is to actually ban Darren from ever changing his email address again ... :-) oneandone.co.uk sells uk domains. (ie something@qcelt.co.uk) for £1.99 a year. .com costs £8.99 a year. No good for you, Darren, of course, but I wonder if a similar company sells .ie domains? I am sure there must be. All .ie domains have to registered with the government, and cost a hell of a lot more than 8.99!! I think I paid several hundred euro when setting up www.wwc.ie for use with the Wicklow Web centre when it was open. All you do then is direct that address to any email you want. Sure. This is what I did when I had the business. Darren. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] New email address and address
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 May 2005 23:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] New email address and address I am pretty sure that if Dilwyn would call Freddy he will be able to express it in a licence somewhere... (as in the excerpt below) Article III^2356632*128+6 I. The user shall be prohibited from reselling the software except when Mr. Branagh changes his email address. In such case the user shall be able to sell the software, provided he books a plane to Mayo Co., forces Mr. Branagh at gunpoint to revert to his old address and contractually binds him to refrain from EVER drinking Guinness again (or drink it icy cold in any case ;-) ) The latter probably a good idea. 'cos if I drink too muh of that stuff, I wont know what email is let alone what my address is...:-)) D. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
This is the worry I had, would we sell 10 never mind 50 or 100. I would really like to commit to 100, which would make getting the logo a reality, which I think is the thing that will make the item a bit more personal, and also sellable to the QL community. It will set it apart from the ton of other USB sticks that are available everywhere. On the plus side, there has been a flurry of positive emails and commitments from quite a few people to buy one or even several. Thank you, this is the sort of thing that will encourage me. I will try and get something to John mason in the coming days - I want to contact a few more people (beta testers, and some programmers) to make sure I have a team on board before committing as I don't have the time to do this on my own anymore. Cheers, Darren. -Original Message- From: gwicks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 May 2005 19:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software behaving badly - Original Message - From: Darren Branagh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 3:40 PM Subject: RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly To be honest though, the fear I have is how many we'd sell. I would need to commit to buying at least 50, but more likely 100, to get decent pricing on the sticks. Typical price when available shouldn't exceed 15 pounds. Will we sell that many? This is the problem Quanta has with this project. Even 5 - 10 years ago the rule of thumb for the maximum viable production run for a hardware project was 50 units. Today even 50 may be too many. This is the reason we have asked Darren to give us some idea of costings, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
The DVD was 30 pounds, now reduced to 20 as the media and drives have fallen in price. And it is really good. I must organise a public showing of it if I can, maybe at byfleet... Bill Richardson and Tony Firshman are the two main stars :-)) Cheers, Darren. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Taffel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 May 2005 21:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software behaving badly At £15 you count me in for one. How much for the stick, plus the DVD? Jeremy ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
-Original Message- From: Malcolm Cadman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 May 2005 21:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Software behaving badly In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Darren Branagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Well, that's a probable 4 - only 96 to go :-)) Plus another one ... :-) Besides this will have novelty and souvenir appeal too. Indeed. Which is why I really want to get them branded with a personal logo. Darren. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick
That would be lovely, a real 3D shaped USB Stick with the microdrives being the USB plug cover cap. I can probably get those purpose made, but at a 100 print run, expect to pay about 2,000 quid each at least!! (we did one in the shape and colour of a human finger last month - the fingernail removed to show the USB connector - very classy!) I think the print run for those was about 25,000 units, was for a US Telecoms company. Darren. -Original Message- From: David Tubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 May 2005 11:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] QL on Stick At 11:11 20/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: I see it as covering the whole visible part when in the computer. Wouldn't it look good if it looked like a QL stuck in the slot (8-)# While thoughts are on packaging rather than content (is that not the time consuming bit) surely it should be a 3D miniature of the QL, removing the mdv end to reveal the USB con'. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.13 - Release Date: 19/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Market research
I don't think its that people don't care, its just the nature of the beast. As Geoff pointed out - market research companies are ecstatic if they get a few percent response rate. I remember being involved in a 250,000 person mailshot to clients when I was with Bank of Ireland - we got less than 1,500 responses. People generally detest filling in forms and answering questions, unless there is a reward of course:-) But yes, I can see your point. Logic would dictate that at this stage of the QL's life, only the die-hard, QL forever types remain, and these are most likely to be the most vocal about the QL. But that isn't the case. Take this list for example - how many subscribe regularly or even continuously, in comparision to those that actively participate? I think you'll find the rates are quite similar. I personally completed the survey online purely because I happened to be online when it popped into my head, so I completed it. Cheers, Darren. -Original Message- From: David Tubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 May 2005 10:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Market research At 08:41 20/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: At the time the survey was being tweaked I suggested traders should invite their customer base to participate, did you or any other do so ? I told everyone on the emailshot list. Bully for you Tony, but your last mention I think said 90 responses, is that sad 'cos many don't care or a reflection of the real QL world ? D -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.13 - Release Date: 19/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick
I liked it too. None left, the entire shipment sent to the US not long after I joined here. The MD has one - and I think he is guarding it with his life!! They don't happen that often, as they are expensive to do. They did one in the shape of a cruise ship a year or two ago. Cheers, Darren. -Original Message- From: David Tubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 May 2005 12:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ql-users] QL on Stick At 11:49 20/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: (we did one in the shape and colour of a human finger last month - the fingernail removed to show the USB connector - very classy!) I Now that I like Very digital, the Fickle Finger of Fate ! Insert finger here ??? Is here one left kicking around the floor somewhere ? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.13 - Release Date: 19/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software
Yep. But I think Jeremys thinking is right, although I hate to say it. We need to just bite the bullet on a lot of this software, or it'll remain unused and covered in cobwebs. I think a long email or phone call to freddy is required, getting the status of every program in the bundle - just asking can each program become freeware. This should generate three possible answers in each case. 1. yes. 2. no. 3. don't know. So I suggest we work from there. I think this is vastly important. I can only talk of my own experience. I got into QL's via a box load of QL stuff I bought at a car boot sale, about 1993 or 4. There were 2 QL's - one working, one not - an expanderam, a disk drive, and about 30 QL user mags among other stuff, but very little software other than a few games and the psion stuff. I bought it all (for 35 quid IIRC) because I knew the QL was a powerful machine, having played a bit with Hilary O'Kelly's brand new one a few years earlier, and having been a ZX Spectrum user since December 1983. So, Hilary and I started a sort of club betweem us, and then Hilary bought the DP bundle - for 99 pounds I recall. I was blown away by the value and quality of the programs. And later (when I could afford it) I got a copy too. And all that led to where I am now - still a QL user. I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty confident I would have lost interest in the QL without the DP collection. So, for me, I think its important to preserve the use of them. You can't tell me programs like Conqueror, Media manager, and the Editor where not ahead of their time? Cheers, Darren. -Original Message- From: John Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 May 2005 15:23 To: QL Users Subject: Re: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software Jeremy Taffel wrote: So, let's stir things up a little. I don't own the whole DP collection, but I have original 3.5 floppies plus documentation of: Perfection Plus + Dictionaries , Lightning SE, Qmaths, and Microbridge which I never use. I will sell them all at a nominal price to anyone who is interested. If you are interested, contact me off list. But since you didn't buy the DP bundle, any such transaction would not be subject to the licence condition(s) under discussion :-) John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly
A...I see what you mean. Ok, not a bad idea. I suppose this could also be available for download too. Though initially I think it better to stick (excuse pun) with the easy boot from the device idea... Darren. -Original Message- From: David Tubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 May 2005 17:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ql-users] Software behaving badly At 16:34 19/05/2005 +0100, you wrote: Surely the suite would best be moved as a Zipped collection for anyone to unwind into any device they had available, so many have camera mem cards already. No, this defeats the purpose. I can do this after the event for people who want the data, but this idea came about as a way of trying to get at those ex QLers who now have PC's on their desks. Most of these will have forgotten what ZIP is (if they ever knew) and would'nt want the hassle of finding out. You miss my point, I do NOT NOT NOT mean QDOS zippery, which might or might not work ! ! ! (Bitter experience) I would suggest a choice between QPC and QLEM as the engine. A Windows ZIp file (XP reads without further assistance) containing the Emulator and two Wins, one for progs and one with some sample data.. The punter only has to squirt it onto any suitable device and invoke the emulator which should boot directly to a menu. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17/05/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] New email address and address
I think I have posted this here before, but apologies if I haven't... I am still getting emails to my old o2 email address - while this is still active, and will continue, I only check it maybe twice a week at best, due to the fact I have no phone line at home, and rely on a GPRS/Bluetooth link from my laptop to my mobile phone for email and internet access at home (very expensive - so only used in emergencies!) Therefore, for a much speedier response, use this email address:- dbranaghATcmsperipheralsDOTcom (obviously replacing AT and DOT with the correct symbols, this done to try and annoy the damn spamming robots) This email is checked constantly daily weekdays while at work, 9am-5.30pm. Also, I am also still getting some snail mail to my parents address in Wicklow. Again, this will get to me, just more slowly as it needs to be forwarded. My new postal address, for the foreseeable future, is:- Darren Branagh, Gortnaclassa, Cong, Co.Mayo. IRELAND. Tel: +353-86-8100090. Voicemail: +353-86-58100090. Dilwyn, can you put this change in the next QL Today? And, if anyone from QUANTA is listening, can you do the same in QUANTA? Sorry if this seems repetitive, but I have got a few people complaining about trying to contact me lately and hopefully this should set the matter straight. Many thanks, Darren. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software
Hi Stuart, First of all welcome to the group - I hope you choose to stay. You'll find we're a friendly bunch, eager to help, and the only stupid question is the one you don't ask. Do you intend to use your QL more often now or are you just going to tinker for curiosity value? The DP QL Collection ceased being sold many years ago. There was a recent debate here regarding the status of many of the programs, and one, The Perfection Word processor, is (I think) due to be released as freeware. A namesake, Dilwyn Jones, recently made contact with the Owner of Digital Precision - Freddy Vaccha. Dilwyn - when you spoke to Freddy, did you mention any of the other programs in the collection, with a view to maybe making most or possibly all of them freeware? The DP collection was a wonderful collection of software, and it would be great to get all of these into the Public Domain. Or course, many of the programs have been superseded by something better, but for nostalgia purposes I feel it's important these programs are retained - they were such an important part of QL History. Any feedback? Darren. -Original Message- From: Stuart Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 May 2005 21:30 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software Dear All, I have been out of the QL scene for many years but for nostalgic reasons would like to acquire the set of Digital Precision software disks (the collection), which I believe were on 10 disks. They were sold around 10 years ago, but at the time I couldn't afford them. If anyone would be willing to sell me a copy at a reasonable price, could the please contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Stuart Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: RE: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software
This is one of the many things that bugs the hell out of me. I wish there was a statute of limitations or similar on software, whereby after x years the stuff became free. I'm sure freddy would agree to releasing it as freeware, or certainly for a giveaway price. I mean, what real use is a piece of 10 year old QL Software other than retro/curiosity value? You're hardly gonna run the world with it... There is so much good usable software out there and nobody knows its user status - is it freeware, charityware, commercial, or what? And if we had some certainty on a lot of this, a lot of users may be attracted back or stay with the QL to use them, purely as tinkerers. I can pick up a copy of PC World, Computer Shopper, PC Pro or any other PC Magazine and find a pile of software (often once costing hundreds of pounds) stuck to the front cover for the 4.99 cover price, and much of this is less than 2-3 years of age. You usually find v.3 or whatever on the cover disc with an offer to get the new v.4 inside at a reduced cost - yet here we are debating the status of software that hasn't been sold at all, never mind updated, for over a decade. Why are people so reluctant to give this stuff away? There is no money in it anymore. Just ask any trader :-) END RANT/ Darren. -Original Message- From: John Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 May 2005 15:26 To: QL Users Subject: Re: RE: [ql-users] Digital Precision Software Dilwyn Jones wrote: Stuart - I could probably get a free WANTED ad into QL Today magazine for you (if publisher Jochen Merz agrees and space permits) to see if anyone wishes to sell their copy of the DP bundle. Let me know if you'd like to try this. Of course, anyone who did sell or otherwise pass on their DP bundle would be breaching the licence conditions but, 10 years on, I doubt if even Freddy V. would be too concerned :-) John ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Quanta AGM 2005
Arrrggg... I have been wrecking my head as to this customers name. He has bought a lot of stuff from me in the past, but his name escapes me. I have an address label he gave me in an old diary at home, but that's in Wicklow 200 miles from here while the house his being done up.. :-(( Darren. -Original Message- From: Tony Firshman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2005 14:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Quanta AGM 2005 On Mon, 9 May 2005 at 00:11:02, John Southern wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Monday 09 May 2005 00:04, Tony Firshman wrote: I need help with a couple of names. Unknown. I am forgetting names in my old age. Help -- Roy Kempton? Thanks. There is another: http://firshman.co.uk/showphotos/Quanta-agm2005/pages/IMG_2724.htm Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Spellcheck....
You've probably added QLers to the spelling database at some point. Darren. -Original Message- From: Derek Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 May 2005 17:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Spellcheck Tried this in Word 2003, seems to be a correct spelling... However, could be offtopic, should all be using QL applications. Derek Darren Branagh wrote: Hi All, This appealed to my funny side. If you type QLers into MS Word or Outlook, and have the spell checker installed, it will automatically underline it in a red wavy line as usual, which indicates a misspelled or unknown word. Right-clicking on it produces a list of possible corrections as usual.. ...But the first word it suggests is Queers - Is Bill Gates trying to tell us something? 8-)# Cheers, Darren. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Spellcheck....
Hi All, This appealed to my funny side. If you type QLers into MS Word or Outlook, and have the spell checker installed, it will automatically underline it in a red wavy line as usual, which indicates a misspelled or unknown word. Right-clicking on it produces a list of possible corrections as usual.. ...But the first word it suggests is Queers - Is Bill Gates trying to tell us something? 8-)# Cheers, Darren. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Irish Show
Well... I've had a sort of beard for a few years now, well, a goatee anyway, and I'd afraid age has caught up with me too already and am relying more and more on my glasses, so..its 8-)# nowadays... Darren. -Original Message- From: P Witte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 April 2005 19:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Irish Show Darren Branagh writes: No customers ever come so probably best to do it when it suits us! 8-)# 8-)# - ? -groan- Not another Taliban, I hope? Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Irish Show
So, when is a good time for a Show? Mid-Summer? Or do we leave it until Sept/Oct? Mid summer - August - suits me. And me Anyone else? The weather will be good too. BTW Darren I have just come back from an evening with Steve Bensusan (you others will not know him) and he is onboard for the new band. Brilliant news!! (Steve is a gifted Guitarist. I have Roy's Album with Last Post and he is amazing on it - unbelievable solos.) I had thought you'd lost touch with himI was just listening to him in the car last night on my way home from work (that album occupies slot 4 on my CD Multi-changer!!) Darren. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
One more reason to believe that Irish are similar to Greeks... they try to maximise profit in all situations:-) Why do you think we invented Ouzo? (Which is the drink made out of the crap left when ALL other possible alcoholic drinks are made...) Ffibys My step-daughter brought a small bottle of ouzo back for me from holiday last year. I'd had a bad day and sat down with the bottle one friday night. Wasn't a happy chappy for a day or two after (well, my excuse is I don't drink much usually unless with Darren and I wasn't up to Ouzo) - it even made me stay off the QL for a day or two, now that is BAD :o( Oh yeah...Blame me for your alcoholic ways when you're in Ireland... 8-)# I recall my first encounter with ouzo tooI drank an entire bottle at a greek night in my local pub (don't ask). Took a large fried breakfast the next day to sort me out, and I made friends with a large packet of alka-seltzer too. Darren. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Internet on the QL
Someone asking me to tamper with Unixy or Windows-style software? I can just see Roy Wood gritting his teeth in fear now ;-) Tsk tsk... I am sure Roy won't mind ;-) I have only sympathy for the software itself if it has to stand being handled by Dilwyn. Hey maybe we should start a new O/S 'Dilwyndows' I will throw this open to suggestions as to features. Lets see how creative you can be. Well 1. Only runs in MODE 4 colours - Green and red mainly, as per welsh flag. 2. Plays whats new pussycat? by Tom Jones while loading. 3. Has a choice of sheep or leeks as a wallpaper theme. 4. Has an LWPM (large Welshman protection mode) in which the keyboard and mouse don't work (only way to prevent Dil doing any damage) 5. Has dual processor/motherboard functionality - one intel/AMD and one 68xxx, so if Dil buggers up the Intel part, he can switch to 68xxx mode. 6. Has Welsh language Icons and help files (by default) 7. Has in-built, anti-virus protection called know-leeks 1.0 8. Supports a new graphic file format, similar to GIF and TIFF, called CarDIFF. 9. The error sound is a sheep going baa How that for starters? Darren. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 14:38:18 -0400, Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Darren Branagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Reminds me, I really must organise another Irish Show, maybe in Galway for a change. Would that be an Irish Show or a show held in Ireland ... :-) Who cares... if there's plenty of Guinness it won't make a difference anyway ;-) Ffibys What's the drink of choice in Galway, Darren - Guinness or Murphy's? Dilwyn Jones Knowing how tight Galwegians are, the one with the lowest price and maximum alcohol content!! :-)) Guinness is the mainstay everywhere but Munster - particularly Cork. Though Pints are *MUCH* cheaper here than in the east - amazing but true. Some pubs here charge 2.95 euro, up to 3.50 euro in others. In Dublin over 4 euro is commonplace noweven touching 5 euro in some hotels. DB. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Irish Show
So, when is a good time for a Show? Mid-Summer? Or do we leave it until Sept/Oct? No customers ever come so probably best to do it when it suits us! 8-)# You can fly into Galway airport quite cheaply from Luton on occasion... Via Aer Arann. Any ideas fellas? (and it would be nice to see Jochen come over this time) Darren. -Original Message- From: Tony Firshman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 April 2005 17:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product. On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 at 09:58:09, Darren Branagh wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) snip Such a varied bunch - I always use the example where Myself, Roy, Tony, and Jim Hunkins walked (unknowingly at the time) into a gay bar in Montreal at the QL show there a few years ago. You had an age gap spanning 20+ years, Roy with his long rock star hair and flowery shirt, Tony in shorts and beard, Jim was tanned and in jeans - the poor barman was working overtime trying to figure out who the couples were! I also tried to teach the barman how to pull Guinness properly... but that's another story. I remember it well. This was the -second- gay bar we stumbled into. The first was obvious - there were men dancing! The look on the very gay barman's face when Darren showed how to slowly pour a Guinness was priceless. Reminds me, I really must organise another Irish Show, maybe in Galway for a change. Hear hear. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Ffibys version 2.0
As long as you don't decide to install mistress 1.0 upgrade on top of Wife 1.0, you should be fine!! Darren. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 April 2005 17:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Ffibys version 2.0 On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 09:03:42 -0400, extdgl42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should that be Ffibys 2.1 or 1.7? I think that, according to gov't statisticians, is how many children couples actually have :-) . Doug L. 37830 USA I defy the standards ;-) I have 2 so 2.0 should be the most likely... although seeing how children are produced by both parents maybe a 4.0 would be more appropriate ;-) Ffibys P.S. Of course If I were Bill Gates I would have him named Ffibys 2005 :-) ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
Tony Wrote:- In the old days, QL work used to be my living, and a good one. For the last 6 years at least, I have stayed because I have made many good friends. I don't make money or even do it for free. It actually costs me money to stay with the QL. Tony I couldn't agree more. Although I've been quiet on the QL scene lately, due to moving house and having a baby (not personally, of course!) but up to a year or so ago, I was at most shows, even some of the US ones, and its something I plan to get back into more towards the end of this year. It typically cost me over 150 euro to visit a QL show, as it entails a ferry or airplane ticket, and accommodation and eating out, and that's if I can get a cheap air deal, and I try to stay with friends if possible. I haven't even covered myself financially at a show since probably QL2000. But the friendships are just sooo good. Which is why I enjoy doing the Irish show when I can, they are s much fun. You have Roy, who is so witty it hurts, Tonys massive technical knowledge on just about anything that has electricity running through it, and several other people that can really get a conversation going - I totally enjoy it all. Its quite amazing really, we are all of varying ages, backgrounds, and experiences, even nationalities with Jochen etc, yet we all gel together so well, not just on QL matters, but as friends - in fact we often don't talk about QL stuff much when we are out. The first Xmas cards I get each year are usually from the QL fraternity. Such a varied bunch - I always use the example where Myself, Roy, Tony, and Jim Hunkins walked (unknowingly at the time) into a gay bar in Montreal at the QL show there a few years ago. You had an age gap spanning 20+ years, Roy with his long rock star hair and flowery shirt, Tony in shorts and beard, Jim was tanned and in jeans - the poor barman was working overtime trying to figure out who the couples were! I also tried to teach the barman how to pull Guinness properly... but that's another story. Reminds me, I really must organise another Irish Show, maybe in Galway for a change. Sorry if people see this as off topic - tough. In my opinion, its what has this list and the people on it still here. It we traders didn't all get on, it would have all died years ago. Darren. -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
Hi all, esp. John, I have still to get definitive pricing on the USB drives, but this would hinge greatly on how many we would potentially order. Ideally, 100 or more would yield the best price, but then again we have to make sure we can sell then on quickly, as the prices change very quickly on items like this. Suffice to say I can get 64Mb ones for about a fiver, but that's today and may not be tomorrow. These are now obsolete and we have existing stock only - 128Mb is now the smallest we do, with 4Gb being the biggest. We had 32Mb ones last week, don't now completely sold out. I'm pretty sure I can get the best prices, as they are made by us, and therefore we are getting 'direct from manufacturer' prices, plus I am staff, so can order at cost price. The savings ain't gonna be huge as we are talking about margins of 3-7% on stuff in here anyway, but a saving it will be. Basically, it entails getting a concrete OK from QUANTA to buy some. Then we will need somebody or somebodies to write a front end, and copy the data to them (at USB speeds, this is a very quick procedure). So, what we need is some quanta money, and someone to write the software to drive the thing - a certain Welshman would be ideal... (Hint hint) but far be it from me to volunteer him!! :-)) I propose we get 64Mb ones if any at all, but we'd need to move fast as 128Mb is the way we are moving now, and these are about 8 pounds ish... This could then be split into say, a 40Mb QXL.WIN, and then some 24Mb for some PC files outside it (zip files, or the QL manual in word.doc format of whatever). Copies of the emulators inc. QPC2 demo etc would be essential, and a little INTRO.DOC file giving some QL background and info on the programs. Darren. -Original Message- From: John Gilpin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 April 2005 00:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product. - Original Message - From: Just about everbody who monitors the user list About 10 days or so ago, Darren Branagh asked a quite straight forward question about the possibility of there being a market for a DVD containing an emulator and heaps of QL Software with a purpose written front end etc. This idea was extended to 32Mb and 64Mb USB Flash Drives with a similar package. Since then this topic has become so distorted that it seems to me now to have been downgraded to a general slanging match over who said what in emails or what was the purpose of links in workshop flyers etc. After over 140 emails bearing this subject heading, can we please get back to the original topic? Carry on with the other one if you must, but is it getting anywhere? And if so can someone change the subject line so that those of us who are fed up of this exchange can ignore whatever there is still to come. I for one am very interested in what Darren was suggesting and would be willing to place any firm suggestions or business plan before the Quanta Committee if financial support was needed. Anyone else want to know what Darren has (had) in mind? Regards, John Gilpin. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Perfection
Completely off topic - and I'll probably get flamed to death for it, but.. Is he still mad into cars? And whats he doing for a living? Still accountancy? Does he still eat enough to fuel a small African country? Darren. -Original Message- From: Dilwyn Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 April 2005 14:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] Perfection I have just been on the phone with Freddy Vachha (I'm sure you all remember Digital Precision Ltd) where we discussed the Perfection word processor among other things. (There, Freddy, your name coupled with the words precision and perfection in the same sentence should boost your standing with the search engines!) I mentioned David Gilham's work on Perfection to him and he was broadly in favour of allowing work on Perfection, as long as it was with a view to updating it for better compatibility with recent OS changes, but was not in favour of changing the functionality of the program (adding new commands or altering the fundamental mother/daughter job system on which it was built etc). I haven't got David's contact details with me at the moment, but David, if you can confirm that the work you've done on Perfection is more updating for compatibility reasons rather than fundamentally changing or adding new facilities etc I can get back to Freddy to let him know the full situation and I'm cautiously optimistic he would allow an updated version to be released if he was happy with what had been done. I have a contact number for Freddy, but he has asked that it is not passed on, so I will pass on messages to him rather than pass on his phone number. Although I don't think Freddy gets much time for QLing these days, he speaks nostalgically of his time with the QL. I happened to mention Quanta's QL Is 21 meeting to him. He said it may be of interest to him and might wish to attend, if only for nostalgic reasons, if his work etc allows at the time, so there is a possibility we may see him there this autumn as well. Some time ago, I was also in email contact with Leon Heller, Quanta founder, and he said he may take an interest if his commitments allow nearer the time. Wouldn't it be great if we could have a few such distinguished guests from the QL's past attending this event! Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: RE: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
Dilwyn wrote: What sort of prices are we talking of in small quantities for the 32MB and 64MB models? Pennies really... The 64Mb ones no longer show of the system, as they are not obsolete although I know we have at least 100 of them in stock. Just to put it in perspective, 128Mb ones (huge storage by QL standards) are selling at roughly EIGHT POUNDS EACH, selling in blocks of 10. Expect 64Mb to be about a fiver, probably less. I've been asked several times to make a little CD or similar with a free QL emulator on board and some games and general packages controlled by a simple front end (a plug and go QL complete with software). 32MB or 64MBwould carry an emulator and plenty of software with ease. People like Norman Dunbar and Ken Bain have already described in detail how convenient these flash memory devices are. I have a 2GB one now, and have my life on it. Absolutely indispensable piece of kit. I have several episodes of Star trek, a few QL bits inc. a QXL.WIN, and a load of photos of the kids and work related spreadsheets and word docs- basically anything that can be stored in a file can be put on this. Better still in the docking station we do. A lovely little weighted desktop USB slot which has a long cable leading around to your PC, - very handy for making those hard to get at USB ports more accessible - if like me you don't have USB ports on the front of your machine. See the website. I'd welcome ideas and comments on whether this is a good idea or not. Here's a suggestion to get the ball rolling: 1. Put a QL emulator on it. 2. Put some QL games and other free software on it. A short QL demo might be an idea if someone is interested in writing one. There is a QLDEMO thingy in the quanta library, though it probably needs updated... Esp. for high colour. 3. Put the QL manual on it (these are available on my website). This would also eventually encourage users to learn a little bit of SuperBASIC perhaps, and their QL interest might go beyond the QL On A Stick Indeed. 4. Put a sweet and simple front end, which could even be a SuperBASIC program, to let the user select which game or program to run, preferably with a short screen of information before the program starts, especially if it's a program which does not return you cleanly to the menu. Yes, easy to program and easy to use. I was going to do this for the QL DVD idea anyway. 5. A fairly short DOS or Windows text file to explain what it's all about, or a printed sheet of instructions. Easy. To all intents and purposes, this would make it like one of these stand alone video games packages, but one which works by plugging into a PC rather than stand alone. How I see all this is as something which might tempt ex QLers back via a simple to use system which does what most users remember their QLs by - simple to use computer, which is just that little bit different to other computers, free word processor, database, spreadsheet and games, and ability to use it all from a simple little PC plug in device which requires no desk space or space for other computers, and above all hopefully nostalgia will encourage users to take up the QL again without major investment of money or space or effort! Well, the Spectrum one we are doing has taken Dixons by storm, they are very excited about it. I know the Emulator DVDs and CDs are popular too in mainstream stops. I've convinced myself, where can I buy one Darren? ;-) Well, maybe Roy Wood can get alternate ones cheaper from Hamiltone, might be worth checking. There are lots of companies doing them - TwinMOS, Kingston, Iomega, etc.. We are quite cheap in that we manufacture them too. The other thing to ask is were have all the 8Mb and 16Mb ones gone? Are they still in use, or Are they in desk drawers or skips somewhere? Perfectly usable for QLers Well, I can get concrete pricing if you want it, The more we order the cheaper they will get - Doubt I can buy quantity at cost, maybe this is a worthwhile spend for some QUANTA funds? Or would this be deemed pushing it as it isn't QL native hardware...?? Darren. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
I couldn't agree more with what Roy has said. I think QPC is a *PHENOMENAL* piece of programming, an amazing bit of skill to say the least - and, whats more, virtually every addition that has been requested have been added By Marcel, usually very quickly, and he is still doing it now, long after the initial purchase price has been spent by many of us and there is little or nothing in updates. You can't even attempt to compare QPC with a Linux Distro; linux has a massive body of programmers worldwide working on various parts - Marcel does QPC largely on his own in his bedroom, in his own spare time. As we say here in Ireland - fair play to 'im. I would almost certainly be a non QLer by now if not for QPC, and the fact I can now travel to shows with a laptop is a huge bonus. Darren. -Original Message- From: Roy wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 April 2005 09:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product. In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jeremy Taffel[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP Getting back on topic... I would be interested in the DVD, but, as I am limited to plain vanilla QDOS emulation (uQLx, QLAY), because, I can't justify the outlay for QPC2. (I'm not saying that it's over-priced, but in a limited and shrinking market, no selling price can be a commercial proposition, so better surely to drop the price and get some new sales than leaving it at a price where it costs a comparable price to complete linux distro, complete with professional manuals, and 6 cds or so of applications, or an oem version of Windows) The point is that QPC2 has represented a great deal of work on the part of Marcel who is still at university and has a low income. If you take it that the LINUX distribution and that Windows is more widespread then the payment you are making in respect of the work put into their construction is far higher. If you had a similar payment to make to Marcel for the time effort and dedication he has put into making QPC2 such a superb system you would be paying a lot more. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: RE: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
Pennies really... The 64Mb ones no longer show of the system, as they are not obsolete although I know we have at least 100 of them in stock. I was leading up to a suggestion for making a proposal to Quanta to apply for funding to create A QL On A Stick for ex-QLers and retro enthusiasts to try to widen QL usage, but I forgot to add that part in the original email as I got a bit disturbed by an irate customer. Lovely! Just had a chat with the Manager who looks after Disgo - he doesn't know what show of the low-end stuff is left since the Dixons/Spectrum Emulator deal was done, so he'll get back to me. He also mentioned that if we ordered over 100 units, he could get then branded with any logo we want on them, so either the QUANTA logo of SINCLAIR QL in the infamous Sinclair font maybe? Nice thing to own for nostalgias sake.. I think it's a great idea, but may be worth shopping about anyway; Roy? Do you do USB drives? I have a 2GB one now, and have my life on it. Absolutely indispensable piece of kit. I have several episodes of Star trek, Hmmm, Star Trek rates higher than a QL in your life? ;-) When you have a mental 2 year old running amok, your spare time is best served in front of the TV (or laptop) :-)) There is a QLDEMO thingy in the quanta library, though it probably needs updated... Esp. for high colour. Err, to be honest, I'd rather leave GD2 out of this, especially if using QLay 2 or another emulator not supporting high colour. In the spirit of this, the people it's meant to appeal to are retro and nostalgia people, so closeness to an original QL might be th eorder of the day. Then the QLDEMO is probably perfect, didn't you have it on your website? The one that shipped with the QL originally? 4. Put a sweet and simple front end, which could even be a SuperBASIC program, to let the user select which game or program to run, preferably with a short screen of information before the program starts, especially if it's a program which does not return you cleanly to the menu. Yes, easy to program and easy to use. I was going to do this for the QL DVD idea anyway. IIRC, Ron Dunnett used to have something similar on his Qubbesoft PD Library disks. And Ian Bruntlett many years ago produced something to make disk front ends (the name B0Peep springs to mind, not sure if it was that or something else). Yes - Ron's was very well laid out. He had a system of only putting 10 programs on each disk, regardless of how much spare space was left. The 10 program names were displayed and could be highlighted and run - was nicely laid out on the screen too and a doddle to use. I've convinced myself, where can I buy one Darren? ;-) Well, maybe Roy Wood can get alternate ones cheaper from Hamiltone, might be worth checking. I was part joking, as I have 64MB and 128MB units already, but there was a serious side to my comment to try to convey the fact that I'd already convinced myself this was a good idea if someone could be persuaded to put together an emulator+free software+front end+instructions package. I know:-)) Put still it's a good idea and worth looking at by several of us... I know Steve Reyal and I saw some 8Mb Disgos at a Computer Show in Tottenham Court Road in London about 2 years or so ago for only £1 each, but didn't think of the QL usability!! Pity, the guy had a box full, probably could've had them all for 20 quid. Well, I can get concrete pricing if you want it, The more we order the cheaper they will get - Doubt I can buy quantity at cost, maybe this is a worthwhile spend for some QUANTA funds? Or would this be deemed pushing it as it isn't QL native hardware...?? It's directly QL related, a fairly low cost approach to trying to widen QL usage. Let's see what other people think. I think so... we'll see. Anyone from QUANTA care to comment?? Darren. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
Can't see 'em anywhere on the hamiltone website, so don't think they do 'em. Tried komplett and cpc, them are more expensive. Darren. Well, maybe Roy Wood can get alternate ones cheaper from Hamiltone, might be worth checking. www.hamiltone.co.uk -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 skype : royqbranch web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
Whoops Hamiltone DO do them, they are listed under RAM (weird, but then I suppose they are..) 128MB USB 2.0/1.1, 4003, Samsung £8.48+VAT = £9.97 inc. Darren. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
You should start selling it then :-)) Was an idea I had a while ago when I got a DVD rewriter drive as a pressie, I know the DVD documentary on the QL scene I did with Steve Reyal (at fairly hefty expense to us both I might add) was a complete and utter non-starter in the sales department, which is why I was reluctant to put in the effort on a DVD collection without gauging the market first... Cheers, Darren. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 April 2005 17:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product. On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 12:26:53 -0400, Darren Branagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I touted this idea before in QUANTA, but got no feedback at all. I, in my guise as Q-CELT, produce CD-ROMs for the QL. I was wondering if there would be any demand (Hah!) for a DVD version - i.e. All of the CD-ROMs I produce would easily fit on one 4.7GB DVD-R. It has got cheaper to buy DVD-R's, so the overall price would be quite reasonable (a fraction of what it would cost to buy all the CD's separately - probably about the same as one CD). Anyone interested, or would I just be wasting my time? Cheers, Darren. Funny you should ask that as I have already put all Dilwyn's (and yours) CDs in a dual layer DVD :-) It is EXTREMELY helpful, and you do not have to look everywhere as everything is under one roof. The only problem is that a good front end system is needed... (The info is just too much) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
Dunno what further info there is to give; I'll put EVERY CD I currently sell onto just one DVD disk, of course you'll need a DVD-ROM drive as opposed to a CD-ROM to read it, but it will be totally usable under QPC as are all the CD's. Pheobus is right; is would need a decent front end, and I'm looking into writing one for it relatively simple programming but still a lot of work as all the programs would have to be listed and accessed. All if its worthwhile of course. I know the main reason I got from people as to why they didn't buy my DVD documentary was that, being QLers, they didn't own a DVD player or a DVD-ROM drive, and there wasn't any way of playing it on a QL. This has probably changed a lot in the 2/3 years since I did the DVD, as stand alone players are now readily available for pocket money prices, and they were quite pricey back then, not to mention DVD-ROM drives - in my new job here selling PC products, we don't even stock CD-ROM drives anymore as DVD-ROMs have got so cheap. So, is there a market? Cheers, Darren. -Original Message- From: John Gilpin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 April 2005 22:59 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product. Father Info Please Darren John Gilpin. Quanta Treasurer. - Original Message - From: Darren Branagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 5:26 PM Subject: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product. I touted this idea before in QUANTA, but got no feedback at all. I, in my guise as Q-CELT, produce CD-ROMs for the QL. I was wondering if there would be any demand (Hah!) for a DVD version - i.e. All of the CD-ROMs I produce would easily fit on one 4.7GB DVD-R. It has got cheaper to buy DVD-R's, so the overall price would be quite reasonable (a fraction of what it would cost to buy all the CD's separately - probably about the same as one CD). Anyone interested, or would I just be wasting my time? Cheers, Darren. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: RE: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
Food for thought I personally think it's a good idea, put then again it may lead to more problems than its worth due to the sheer bulk of info that would be on the disk - gigabytes of QL data is a *LOT* of data... It's a great one stop shop idea though... one disk and get every bit of useful documentation, freeware, program, shareware and clipart etc. that was ever worth having. BTW, a novel idea in my new employers is coming to fruition - we own and sell the disgo brand under the guise of clever stuff ltd. (see www.mydisgo.com) - it's the pioneer of the USB thumbdrive market. We happened to realise we had a lot of old 32Mb and 64Mb drives left (obsolete these days - amazing but true) so we have remarketed them to get rid of them - we have changed the cap to a multicoloured one and loaded them with ZX Spectrum emulators and games - them are due to be sold in Dixons, PC World etc. in the next few months. The marketing name is the rainbow drive, geddit? The plan is to do Atari and MAME versions too. We have just started selling a FOUR GIGABYTE one - Which has its own ARM processor onboard -and plan to sell some with DVD movies preloaded. Now, wouldn't a QL one be a great idea?? Imagine... I already have a 64Mb one with a QXL.WIN on it - loads of QL stuff will fit on it. Darren. -Original Message- From: Dilwyn Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 April 2005 14:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product. Dunno what further info there is to give; I'll put EVERY CD I currently sell onto just one DVD disk, of course you'll need a DVD-ROM drive as opposed to a CD-ROM to read it, but it will be totally usable under QPC as are all the CD's. Pheobus is right; is would need a decent front end, and I'm looking into writing one for it relatively simple programming but still a lot of work as all the programs would have to be listed and accessed. All if its worthwhile of course. I know the main reason I got from people as to why they didn't buy my DVD documentary was that, being QLers, they didn't own a DVD player or a DVD-ROM drive, and there wasn't any way of playing it on a QL. This has probably changed a lot in the 2/3 years since I did the DVD, as stand alone players are now readily available for pocket money prices, and they were quite pricey back then, not to mention DVD-ROM drives - in my new job here selling PC products, we don't even stock CD-ROM drives anymore as DVD-ROMs have got so cheap. So, is there a market? Hi Darren, I touted this idea at Portslade on SUnday, only two people said they might be interested, another three said they thought it might be a goodidea but they probably wouldn't buy it themselves. Points you'll need to consider: 1. Multiple QXL.WINs on a single DVD. Users will need to know how to set up for these in QPC2. Not all emulators can access QXL.WIN in a sub-directory. 2. The different - and + formats 3. Many of the current QL CDs have different stuff in the QXL.WIN to what they have outside that. COnsider the Literature CD and the Documentation CD for example. You'll either need a good front end or a good set of documentation explaining where everything is. At the moment, copies of all my CDs are on my hard disk like this: C:\QXL contains one folder for each CD: C:\QXL\DOC is the documentation CD C:\QXL\REL is the religion CD and so on. C:\QXL\PDL is my PD library You have to be careful users can find everything as there'll be so many small files on the DVD between everything. Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] George Best (OT)
Yes, indeed. My Mum dated George Best for several months in Belfast (prior to him being a Man Utd player I think) - Pity, could've been my Dad if it had worked out!! There is another great story. He was in a hotel suite, the morning after winning the European cup for United. He'd spent all night in the casino, and woke up hung-over as usual and ordered breakfast from room service. The young waiter pushed the room service trolley into the room and seen the place - He had a former miss world in the bed beside him, the cup was on the dressing table filled with ice and empty champagne bottles, and a ton of cash was strewn about the floor. The waiter looked at George and said Oh, George - where did it all go wrong? ;-)) Darren. -Original Message- From: Malcolm Cadman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 April 2005 19:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QStarter, QFiles In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Darren Branagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes It reminds me of a famous quote by George Best :- 90% of my money I spent on booze, birds and gambling - the rest I wasted. Yes, that was one of his most lucid statements ... Yet possibly the greatest footballer that I have ever seen play. -Original Message- From: Dilwyn Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 April 2005 21:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QStarter, QFiles Yes, it like all code writing ... the major part of say 90% to 95% is relatively easy, yet it is the last 1% to 5% that is hard. -- Malcolm Cadman Refer to my Murphy's Law docs for the one which says that the first 90% of a project takes 90% of the time. The rest takes the other 90%. -- Dilwyn Jones -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
I touted this idea before in QUANTA, but got no feedback at all. I, in my guise as Q-CELT, produce CD-ROMs for the QL. I was wondering if there would be any demand (Hah!) for a DVD version - i.e. All of the CD-ROMs I produce would easily fit on one 4.7GB DVD-R. It has got cheaper to buy DVD-R's, so the overall price would be quite reasonable (a fraction of what it would cost to buy all the CD's separately - probably about the same as one CD). Anyone interested, or would I just be wasting my time? Cheers, Darren. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] QStarter, QFiles
It reminds me of a famous quote by George Best :- 90% of my money I spent on booze, birds and gambling - the rest I wasted. Cheers, Darren. -Original Message- From: Dilwyn Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 April 2005 21:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QStarter, QFiles Yes, it like all code writing ... the major part of say 90% to 95% is relatively easy, yet it is the last 1% to 5% that is hard. -- Malcolm Cadman Refer to my Murphy's Law docs for the one which says that the first 90% of a project takes 90% of the time. The rest takes the other 90%. -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 11/04/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] Q-Starter
And what cruel devil put as s in lisp? A thermos flask keeps hot things hot and cold things cold - how does it know? Or if you unwrap some cling film from a block of cheese, then eat half the cheese, even though there is half as much the cling film still doesn't cover it? -Original Message- From: Wolfgang Uhlig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 April 2005 17:46 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Q-Starter Why did the chicken cross the road ? What came first, the chicken or the egg ? What do women want ? Or: Why is abbreviation such a long word? Is there another word for synonym? etc ;) Cheers, Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
RE: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour
I think the amusing anecdotes, and funny occurrences that we share on this list and off it are vitally important - I guarantee it's a lot of what has kept the QL community alive this long, the friendships and camaraderie. I've been off list while I was moving house etc, with no phone line for some time, and it's the one thing I really missed!! Cheers, Darren. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 April 2005 15:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] OFF TOPIC - Welsh Humour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah the written word ! We I make a little amateur stab at it form time to time but do try to keep it computer related. Question is how much off topic stuff would the average punter stand? There are those who have complained about show reports that detail occurrences on the journey to and from the show. I'd be happy with one article per issue my self. It doesn't have to be as long as my assembler articles, or Herb's graphics ones - which I personally have no interest in - but I wouldn't complain about them taking up space. Maybe, if it was limited to something like 4-5000 words or a couple of pages, [most] people wouldn't mind. But, then again . Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Final reminder - email and address change!!
Final reminder!! This email account is officially dead at 5pm today - and I will be unsubscribing from the list for a few days or so to get set up again at home in Mayo. If you need to contact me - new email is darrenbranagh AT o2 DOT ie cheers, Darren Branagh. Q-CELT COMPUTING This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
[ql-users] IMPORTANT Change of address and Email
Hi All, Just a follow up email, to remind you all that this email address will cease to exist this Friday 5/11/04. Temporarily, my new email will be :- darrenbranagh AT o2 DOT ie until further notice, this should be used for all queries - both personal and relating to Q-Celt Computing. I will advise of my new work email in due course. Please keep emails to this address to a minimum, and a small file size, as I have no phone lines at present and will be using my mobile phone to retrieve them. Also, I will be temporarily unavailable on the mailing list due to this, so please contact me directly, by email, post or phone if you urgently need any assistance. Dilwyn and Bruce - can you put a note in the next issues of QL Today and QUANTA? My new postal address is:- Darren Branagh, C/o Sandra Storey, Gortnaglossa, Cong, Co.Mayo. Ireland Mobile phone: +353-86-8100090. Regards, Darren Branagh. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Skype
1) It works 2) It is peer to peer and requires no central server 3) Has a testing number 4) On ADSL it is -easily- full duplex. On dial up it almost is, with some breakup. Single duplex is perfect on dial-up. Yep. I agree. I only have dial-up over here, about 42-48K at best. I had a lengthy chat with Steve Reyal the other night using it, about a hour or so, and it was perfectly usable. even set up a three way conference call between Steve, me and my Brother-in-law Ian (who has fast broadband also - lucky enough to live in an area of ireland that can get it!!) While it was perfectly clear between Steve and Ian, there was break up and slight delays bewteen me and them on occasion. Sure todays computer speeds if ADSL available one would expect efficiency. Indeed. The facility to call overseas at local (over there) rates was even offered with 28k modems, even a special call to wake computer job. Yes, I used to use Paltalk and visitalk on a 28K modem years ago, but it was err... crap. In practical terms, I suppose one has to liaise with a given party to make sure you are both get set up and set rendezvous times ? Yes, steve and I either email or SMS each other when we are about to go online. What is the phone number ? Email addy or something else ? You have a user name. This is added to the contact base of another user when you contact them, if they wish it to. Is there a phone directory ? Yes, and you can search for users - very good it is too. DT I was wondering about holding a virtual show using skype - a massive conference call between several users - don't know how many callers it can handle at once Might be worth trying?? Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
[ql-users] NB: Change of email address
Hi All, From 5/11/04 I will no longer be contactable at this email address. I have changed jobs (and moved to the other side of the country!!) and my new email address will (for the meantime anyway) change to :- darrenbranagh AT o2 DOT ie This is my personal email, and therefore I ask that emails be kept to a small size - no large photos, video, slideshows and stuff - I will inform everyone of my new work email in due course. Cheers, Darren Branagh. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
[ql-users] QL Show on Skype?
I dunno if a QL show via Skype is doable, but it certainly makes sense. Its cheap, and a great way for all the QL users worldwide to have an instant chat forum. Of course, it needs some planning - a suitable time to hold it for one. This would need to take into account the users from abroad who may want to participate and and time differences etc. Of course, pointless planning anything unless there is some interest - is there? All that is needed is a decent PC or Mac or even a Pocket PC, with sound and some HD space. Ideally a 400Mhz PC or faster is advised, and any kind of internet connection from 33.6 kps upward. All you need do then is download the skype application from www.skype.com and install it - it took me about 35 mins or so to download it over a dialup, its about 10Mb in size. Cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Direct Line:- (+353)-1-6176082 BOI Group Data Classification - This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL2004
Geoff wrote:- Also Sin-QL-Air backed the show financially - where else in the QL show circuit do you get free coffee and pay only 50 euros for a roll? (I mean bread rolls - I know we were in the Netherlands, but the other sort of roll is known as a stikkie there.) 50 euro for a roll? God, you'd get a four course meal with a bottle of wine here for that :-)) Just joking, I know you probably mean 50 cent (and not the gangsta rapper either..) Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDOS
Dilwyn Jones wrote: The only other QDOS I've ever heard of was an old PC operating system, a predecessor to CPM I think, called Quick and Dirty Operating System. Don't know if that was the official name or just something someone made up about it in the same way as QDOS in Qludged early QLs were nickname Quite Delayed Operating System. QDOS was the name of the CP/M clone for the 8086 that Bill Gates bought and renamed MS-DOS 1.0... The name comes from the fact that it was written as a quick and dirty OS to get an 8086 board up and running... which explains a lot! John And he bought it for 50,000 Dollars, which when you consider how much he made out of MS-DOS, was a bit of a Bargain Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Perfection
George Gwilt wrote:- The version I have, which I amended so that it would print files, is v 6.01. What is yrs? From memory, I think it is v6.10 - but stand to be corrected. I will check this evening. Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Perfection: my take on it
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 at 16:20:59, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Not even a tablecloth with a pint on it? Now that is more like it. I have certainly done that with the green tablecloth - the stains are there to prove it. Tony I can stand testament to that one!! I remember tony asking me after several hours drinking at one of the QL shows over here if we had a chance of another round - it was approaching 1 o'clock in the morning. I said sure, just tell the barman you're with me. Tony went up and was amazed when he got served!! You gotta love Ireland. I remember being refused a beer at Malcolm Cadmans local in London before 11pm, and the Landlady was Irish!! She said it took her some getting used to! Cheers, Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Perfection: my take on it
Dave Gilham wrote:- My understanding is that I need freddies permission to release the modified binary to the general QL communinity and that I am under a Non disclosure arregement as regards the sources.I seem To have lost that agreement but that is the gist of of it. By the way does freddy still live up Chingford way or is there any other contact details email address etc for Freddy. Oh, well that changes things. Looks like the modified perfection may be gathering dust for some time to come then Unless we can contact Freddy. Pity. Cheers, Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Perfection etc. etc.
Per Witte wrote:- Darren runs a very good piss-up (sorry QL show) form time to time (8-)# I think you have missed them all, and good they were too. Does anyone remember whether Ive been to one? (Reply off-list, please!) Per, I don't even remember if I'VE been to one, and I apparently run it... (hic!!) :-)) Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Perfection: my take on it
H. Now I'm confused. I was told by Mark years ago that Freddy gave the OK for Perfection to be released as freeware. So, providing you (Dave) are OK about releasing any of your modifications on the public, I don't see what the problem is. Cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Direct Line:- (+353)-1-6176082 BOI Group Data Classification - David Gilham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: qlusers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] Perfection: my take on it s.q-v-d.com 08/10/2004 17:44 Please respond to ql-users I seem to have problems posting to the list but here is my understanding of the Perfection situation. I made an agreement with Freddy Vaccha aka digital precison to upgrade perfection and possibly to release it as freeware. I have made it work with larger screens and possibly on the ql emulator for the amiga. Unfortunatly any further developement has gone to sllep in the last four years. For what its worth Perfection has not been released as freeware or public domain and I would need permission from Freddy Vaccha to relase the binary let alone the sources to the general QL community.For what its worth what I got when I received the Perfection sources was just the assembler sources to the Perfection program and the basic sources to the configurator , no notes othe than commants in the assembler sources. - David Gilham - The universe is a queer place ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Perfection
Brian, I wasn't being sarcastic at all, nor elitist. I thought the last DP released version was generally available as PD - I hadn't looked for it, as I was one of those who bought the entire DP collection of programs from freddy for about 100 quid just prior to DP closing down - so I already had it and every other DP program. I don't regard the perfection issue as a lost cause at all - Malcolm Cadman has said he will talk to Dave Gilham about it at a soon forthcoming London meeting, so if I get an OK from Dave, then the version I have can be released IMMEDIATELY. I'm sure Roy can comment on the other gripe, but I am certain he did everything in his power to report your findings to the author concerned, and also to get a reply. This is par for the course though these days - decent authors and programmers are leaving the QL scene, and there is not a lot the traders can do about it - I know the feeling. Mark Knight is a prime example. Cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Direct Line:- (+353)-1-6176082 BOI Group Data Classification - Brian Kemmett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by:Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.q-v-d.com 07/10/2004 18:38 Please respond to ql-users Im not quite sure if that was a sarcastic aside?? I thought it was a genuine observation. It seems to me that the QL WORLD is getting too elitist and forgetting the bottom of the heap, you know, the ordinary users. No wonder QL users are leaving in a steady trickle for Mr Gates world when our experts act too aloof. Point in mind, apart from Perfection, which I now believe is a lost cause - I purchased (yes, purchased) an update from Qbranch of Datadesign for the high colour drivers. It don't work past the first filter level. Report it to Roy Wood, who duly said he would report the findings to the author/updater To date, no reply, no nothing. I am now a few quid out of pocket with something worse than the thing it was perported to update! Roy says he has had no feedback from whoever supposedly updated the code. Why?. I have been with my QL, Aurora and ultimately my Q40 since 1985. It is beginning to feel like its time to move on and leave Qdos/Smsq/e to all of you elitists - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection Oh... Sorry!! I had thought it was available, just the hi-res screen version that wasn't. Dilwyn - is it in your PD library?? Calling Dave GIlham. cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Direct Line:- (+353)-1-6176082 BOI Group Data Classification - Brian Kemmett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by:Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: [ql-users] Perfection
Thu, 7 Oct 2004 16:54:19 +0100,() [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Oh... Sorry!! I had thought it was available, just the hi-res screen version that wasn't. Dilwyn - is it in your PD library?? If it isn't I would be glad to provide it :-) Phoebus _ I bet you would I have it here too, and it should be in the libraries. Its the Dave/Mark upgraded one thats the grey area.. Hopefully this will be rectified soon. What about that thor? Cheers, Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Perfection etc. and Copyright
John Sadler wrote:- Copyright was introduced so that the author could get a reasonable recompense for his/hers efforts. Of course when the lawyers have finished it all becomes unreasonable! However that does not change the moral ideas behind copyright. It seems totally unreasonable to me that people should be denighed the use of an item because the authors have lost interest or just want to be to be awkward. Perhaps a little application of moral copyright would be the solution provided of course there is no commercial benefit to anyone else besides the author(s). Well, I wouldnt really agree with this, although I don't see the point of certain authors being awkward either. Having said that, should an author not want his work distributed, then thats that - it is his after all. Moral copyright is all very well, until someone gets their solicitor onto you. Just because you're giving it away for free doesnt make it right. Cheers, Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Perfection
Tony wrote:- Did he tell you the story? There were plenty of similar Nissans about with a slightly different names. This one was top of the range and worth, at the time £22,000. He got it for £17,000 because the salesman thought it was the cheaper model. Were you there when he did wheelies around a car park after a QL show - Leyland I think - soon after he got the car? They were doughnuts :-)) Rather hard to wheelie a car;-)) I wasn't there that time but heard about it soon after. There are many stories about Freddy and cars. I wonder if he still survives - if he carried on like that he would have a short life (out of prison that is!). Dilwyn met him a couple of years ago at Snowdon mountain railway were Dilwyn was working at the time, but didn't get a number or address from him. Hes the sort of bloke would be great to have at a show for a laugh... I think he was running an accountancy business from his house. Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Perfection etc. etc.
Tony wrote:- Brian I can feel your frustration, but I not sure what you are talking about is elitism. I think it is just plain, damned inefficiency and muddle. Put another way the one thing you should never do in this life is to ask any QL-er to run a piss up in a brewery. Darren runs a very good piss-up (sorry QL show) form time to time (8-)# I think you have missed them all, and good they were too. Indeed :-)) I couldn't manage one this year - as my son took priority!! I only see him on weekends, as I have to work in Dublin, and it would have meant giving up one of my weekends with him for the Show. I handed in my resignation lately to the bank where I've worked for 7 years, purely 'cos I miss him so much. I am moving permanently to Galway before Xmas. So next year, the Show may be in Galway for a change... And plenty of fantastic pubs up there... :-)) Cheers, Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Perfection
Freddy gave permission for the original version to be released, ie. the one he created. Mark and Dave have done considerable work on the version I have, and in the pure and simple interest of good manners, i feel it would be unfair to distribute it until I hear from them. I'm sure it would be fine, but lets just say I have incurred Marks fury on one occasion before, and I don't want to go there again. Mark never told me the status of the upgraded version he gave me - was it to be charityware, cardware, freeware, shareware or what. I'm not going to release something into the PD unless I'm sure thats what the author(s) wanted done with it. The majority of it is Freddy's work, sure, but some of the code in there is Marks. I sent an email to the address Dilwyn provided, but it bounced back... So, unless someone has a newer email or phone number for Mark (or Dave), well... Cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Direct Line:- (+353)-1-6176082 BOI Group Data Classification - Brian Kemmett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by:Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.q-v-d.com 07/10/2004 10:46 Please respond to ql-users If Freddie Vaccha gave permission for Perfection to become freeware, then why can't it be released eh - Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection - Original Message - From: Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection . Not entirely true :-) I submitted that idea to my graduating supervisor professor at the uni and I was approved :-) That means that the ql-archive will be a reality (that is if I want to graduate in December ;-) For status now: I am finished with the database structure and most of the search code (in PHP). Glad to hear this, but I am not so interested in the technical side of the archiving, but in the practical. I am not sure that the people who raised this issue 2 months ago were all talking about the same thing. Pity there was no proper discussion of this at the time. Practical problems are for example: 1: How do you make a complete inventory of all the QL software, both PD and commercial, that has ever been published? This first stage could occupy a team for months on end. 2: How do you contact the copyright holders and/or authors when there is no up to date contact information? Specifically how would you solve the QLiberator problem. 3: How do you sort out complicated copyright questions? For example Freddy V gave permission for Perfection to become freeware, but not Spellchecker. Or think of the situation with the EasyPtr upgrade. 4: How do you cope with the anal retention problem, where an author refuses to release or modify code? (e.g. the Text87 problem.) If we are really serious about a software archive, then it should not be a one man effort, but a team looking at these problems. Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] Perfection
Oh... Sorry!! I had thought it was available, just the hi-res screen version that wasn't. Dilwyn - is it in your PD library?? Calling Dave GIlham. cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Direct Line:- (+353)-1-6176082 BOI Group Data Classification - Brian Kemmett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by:Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.q-v-d.com 07/10/2004 16:50 Please respond to ql-users Darren, you are missing my point.. If DP released the original PERFECTION as freeware, then why isn't THAT version available? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection Freddy gave permission for the original version to be released, ie. the one he created. Mark and Dave have done considerable work on the version I have, and in the pure and simple interest of good manners, i feel it would be unfair to distribute it until I hear from them. I'm sure it would be fine, but lets just say I have incurred Marks fury on one occasion before, and I don't want to go there again. Mark never told me the status of the upgraded version he gave me - was it to be charityware, cardware, freeware, shareware or what. I'm not going to release something into the PD unless I'm sure thats what the author(s) wanted done with it. The majority of it is Freddy's work, sure, but some of the code in there is Marks. I sent an email to the address Dilwyn provided, but it bounced back... So, unless someone has a newer email or phone number for Mark (or Dave), well... Cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Direct Line:- (+353)-1-6176082 BOI Group Data Classification - Brian Kemmett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by:Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.q-v-d.com 07/10/2004 10:46 Please respond to ql-users If Freddie Vaccha gave permission for Perfection to become freeware, then why can't it be released eh - Original Message - From: gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection - Original Message - From: Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection . Not entirely true :-) I submitted that idea to my graduating supervisor professor at the uni and I was approved :-) That means that the ql-archive will be a reality (that is if I want to graduate in December ;-) For status now: I am finished with the database structure and most of the search code (in PHP). Glad to hear this, but I am not so interested in the technical side
Re: [ql-users] Perfection
Hi Guys, I have sent mark an email as the address Dilwyn suggested. I know mark moved into Apple Macs (particularly into using them for Artwork) and had intended to put all of his QL programs on the website, but obviously hasn't gotten around to it - I haven't talked to him in probably about 2 years. I was given my copy of Perfection by Mark, and don't recall if he was distributing it or just wanted me to test it for him. I wouldn't want to annoy mark by distributing it to later find its not the latest version, or a version he never wanted released. I use Perfection irregularly, and am unsure if this version I have is truly bug free - although I do know the configurator works very well with large screens, it prints ok, and I couldn't find anything wrong with it in the limited use I gave it. I will hope he responds to the email, and in the meantime hopefully Dave Gilham will pop up to shed some light.. Cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Direct Line:- (+353)-1-6176082 BOI Group Data Classification - Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection s.q-v-d.com 04/10/2004 20:45 Please respond to ql-users Just checked on Mark's website, no mention of Perfection. The email address on there is webmaster AT the-furnace DOT demon DOT co DOT uk The only QL program on his site is Editor 3.07K. I have most of his other stuff on my website (K-Base, MK Utils etc etc) but not Perfection. Darren, if you think the version you have is distributable (perhaps Dave Gilham might pop his head above the parapet and stop lurking to let us know...) send me a copy and I'll pop it on the website. The email address might help you contact him to ask what the situation is. -- Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: Brian Kemmett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 4:14 PM Subject: [ql-users] Perfection Hello.. Does anyone know if the old Digital Precision program PERFECTION was ever finished being updated for smsq/e? I believe Mark Knight was working on it a couple of years ago, and according to QLToday (back then) it was close to release. I believe Mark left the QL scene shortly after that article was published, but was the work ever completed or more to the point - released? Brian K. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms
Re: [ql-users] Perfection
Well, I wouldn't go that far. Providing I get a clear OK from Mark or Dave, I can release my version. I'm sure other people have a copy too - but I'd prefer to have the OK from the guy who did the work on it, (Thats just me). Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Direct Line:- (+353)-1-6176082 BOI Group Data Classification - Brian Kemmett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by:Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.q-v-d.com 05/10/2004 16:41 Please respond to ql-users Thanks to all that have replied to my question. It looks like I can safely assume that PERFECTION is buried in history - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Perfection In a message dated 04/10/04 16:13:12 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello.. Does anyone know if the old Digital Precision program PERFECTION was ever finished being updated for smsq/e? I believe Mark Knight was working on it a couple of years ago, and according to QLToday (back then) it was close to release. I believe Mark left the QL scene shortly after that article was published, but was the work ever completed or more to the point - released? Brian K. I use Perfection with SMSQE (v3.07) and it works well. However I had to alter my version because at one point the register D1 no longer contained what the authors expected. I reported this alteration in QL Today some time ago. I also told Dave Gilham about this error but AFIK he has not changed Perfection (yet). George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Perfection
Hi Brian, I have a version Mark gave me shortly before he left the QL scene. It works well, at least I have used it without too much trouble, and the configurator can now cope with screen larger than 512x256 - I use it on a 17 Monitor at 1024x768 without problem. Mark and Dave Gilham where both doing work on it, I know Dave frequents the list occassionally, so maybe he has a later version. I don't know if any were released as such, I asked Mark and I recieved. :-)) cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Direct Line:- (+353)-1-6176082 BOI Group Data Classification - Brian Kemmett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Sent by:Subject: [ql-users] Perfection [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.q-v-d.com 04/10/2004 16:14 Please respond to ql-users Hello.. Does anyone know if the old Digital Precision program PERFECTION was ever finished being updated for smsq/e? I believe Mark Knight was working on it a couple of years ago, and according to QLToday (back then) it was close to release. I believe Mark left the QL scene shortly after that article was published, but was the work ever completed or more to the point - released? Brian K. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] C and system sprites of SMSQ/E 3++ on Q40
I'm more envious of the 23 cinema display - an apple one I assume. Some of us poor souls have to make do with old CRT G3 Imacs..since I had to sell my dual 1.42Ghz G4. Oh, and Jim, have you finished playing with your QDT yet :-)) (Private joke) Cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Direct Line:- (+353)-1-6176082 BOI Group Data Classification - Wolfgang Lenerz [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] C and system sprites of SMSQ/E 3++ on Q40 s.q-v-d.com 23/09/2004 15:49 Please respond to ql-users On 23 Sep 2004 at 12:40, Tony Firshman wrote: (...) I wonder what his neighbours think (8-)# What , think? With all this noise? grin Wolfgang www.scp-paulet-lenerz.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?
I know a few people - that can be arranged :-)) Why so? Not a Java fan? cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Direct Line:- (+353)-1-6176082 BOI Group Data Classification - Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60? s.q-v-d.com 10/08/2004 18:14 Please respond to ql-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think its programmed in Java, so what are the chances of getting a QPC version? :-)) QPC in Java? Only over my cold, dead body. ;-) Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?
No, not at all - war? Us Irish are only good at fighting amongst ourselves!! :-)) Just curious as to the negativity - it would be a great way of possibly getting QPC out there a bit more. Plus, as most QL applications are tiny, the small memory (in relative terms to a PC) needed lends itself perfectly to Mobile Phones. Imagine the xchange suite running on your mobile phone, or the like of quascade and the PE on a mobile.. using the joystick on the phone to control the pointer drool!! Not to mention being able to tinker on the way into work on the train!! Marcel, if you are so Java opposed, how big a job would it be to port QPC to the phone using C/C++ ? (virtual programming novice and all round idiot talking here!!) Cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Direct Line:- (+353)-1-6176082 BOI Group Data Classification - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: s.q-v-d.com Subject: Re: Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60? 11/08/2004 10:00 Please respond to ql-users Darren Branagh wrote: I know a few people - that can be arranged :-)) Why so? Not a Java fan? Marcel Kilgus wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think its programmed in Java, so what are the chances of getting a QPC version? :-)) QPC in Java? Only over my cold, dead body. ;-) Ooh...ql-users war about to break out between Ireland and Germany? ;-)) OK, how about a compromise...Darren write a Java applet virus for anything running Java to display on the screen Petition Marcel Kilgus To Port QPC2 To Java NOW! ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?
I thing the *language* Java is ok, but the concept of using a virtual machine to artificially slow down perfectly fine and fast PCs is braindead (actually it is fine for Web applications that ought to run on a lot of different platforms, which is where Java originated, but NOT for ordinary applications on a stand-alone machine). True, very true. I love being able to run programs directly under a browser, but at the same time stand alone stuff is faster and a better solution. Also, Java as a whole favours the laziness of the programmer over the effectiveness (in CPU/RAM utilisation) of the end result. And I deeply resent wastefulness. I almost collapsed when, only last weekend, one of those Java is best computer science students I know proclaimed that he now needs 1GB of ram in his laptop and any CPU below 1Ghz ought to have been thrown away years ago anyway. Yes, I know those guys, we have a few on them here in work - and no offence, they are usually 18-22, covered in spots and never used a Home computer in their lives - just a PC. Sad really. I have much more respect for a programmer of spectrum games for example, that can fit a 40 level arcade game with full sound and colour into 48K, not to mention playability, than some knob-end who needs 1,000Mhz, hardrive and 128Mb RAM just to play his solitare conversion.. I hate the new philosophy - back in the good ol days you had 48K on a speccy, and 128K on a QL. That was basically all you had, and you wrote programs to suit the hardware. Now, a lot of programmers write sloppy bloatware code and just up the minimum system requirements as appropriate. Marcel, if you are so Java opposed, how big a job would it be to port QPC to the phone using C/C++ ? Well, if somebody paid me full time to professionally do that job I'd say 1 to 2 EUR might be enough... Cheque or cash :-)) Or would the undying appreciation of this QL user do? Nah, didn't think so..!! Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
[ql-users] QPC on a Nokia Series 60?
I recently upgraded my Nokia mobile phone, from a 7650 to a new 3660 with video playback. On surfing the web, I found a really brilliant full Sinclair ZX Spectrum emulator for it - so now can play Jet set Willy on the train into work!! I think its programmed in Java, so what are the chances of getting a QPC version? :-)) that would be nice... cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Direct Line:- (+353)-1-6176082 BOI Group Data Classification - This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] there must be a fashion lable...
another amazing design aspect: the shape of the QL keys. Although it does not feel very good typing on a QL's keyboard (I know at Sinclair they had to design hardware economically rather than ergonomically...) it is of acceptable quality ... The shape of the the keys is unique ... well, almost unique: In the early times of IBM compatible PCs the german manufacturer Siemens produced Computer with a fairly distinct keyboard design (compared to the bulk of IBM compatibles). Very similiar to QL (or spectrum+) keyboards. Yes indeed, except the siemens ones are white :-)) The question is: did Siemens steal the Sincair key design or was it just the other way around... or did both parties have the same idea accidentally. Probably it is impossible to tell the truth about that after all those years. I don't know, but a good question. AFAIK the distinct Siemens keybords are not being produced anymore. Today the PC branch of Siemens is Fujitsu-Siemens, and they just sell the same mess as other PC manufacturers. No, they are still produced - at least up until very recently anyway. I know because Siemens where the main supplier for the Bank of Ireland, until a recent deal with HP was signed. I am using one of those keyboards right now :-)) and it is definitely not more than 6 months old. They where originally branded siemens nixdorf, now just siemens appears on them, but the design hasn't changed - they've had these in the bank since I joined in 1997. Cheers, Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] there must be a fashion lable...
Hi these days I was surprised two times because colleagues at work (not only men!) apparently weared a QL lable on their shirt ... there must be a fashion lable with a logo that looks very similiar to the QL's start screen... Yes there is - Tommy Hilfiger. I have such a t-shirt myself. Dilwyn Jones was also saying the same thing about some of the staff where he works to me just last week. Oh and btw I got aware of the fact that it is probably very unfair to name the QL Sinclair's black box ... as I did before ... I guess in 1984 Clive was the frontman of Sinclair research as it goes for publicity but I doubt if he really was the brain behind the QL project? Well, people like Tony Tebby would certainly have had a lot more to do with it than Clive. Is there an official hall of fame for the creators of the QL on the web? Dilwyn has a good synopsis of the men behind the QL on his website. If yes it should (besides the hardware/software aspect) definitely also give some credit to the creator of the QL design. It is still amazing for me when I put a QL and SONY's PS2 together on a table - from a design aspect they fit perfectly as if they were from the same collection. Actually, very true. My 9 year old has a PS2, and yes - it is very similar to the QL. Totally confused from today's experiences... :-)) Michael Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
[ql-users] Kodak DC200+ QL Compatible Digital Camera for sale
Hi All, If anyone is interested, I have a Kodak DC200+ Digital Camera for sale, complete with all manuals, Video lead, serial cable, Compact flash card, and carry case. This is the camera that works with the QL using Simon N Goodwins DigiCam software (the camera can be controlled by the QL!!) and photos can be viewed using Photon. George Gwilt has also written a front end for the software. If anyone is interested, please email me. Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Direct Line:- (+353)-1-6176082 BOI Group Data Classification - This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL Network link QL -- PC possible?
There is the QXL - a hardware QL emulator - Which has QL network ports on the back. I often used mine between my QXL/PC and black box QL, mind you that was before QPC and SERNET :-)) Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Direct Line:- (+353)-1-6176082 BOI Group Data Classification - Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QL Network link QL -- PC possible? s.q-v-d.com 28/07/2004 21:17 Please respond to ql-users Michael Berger wrote: does any of the existing QL emulators support a QL network link between PC and QL? - I do not mean by Serial port (as I know QPC2 can do this) but by the QL network connection - probably to a pair of data/ground pins on the PC's parallel port? No, I was experimenting with this 10 years ago, but IIRC the timing was much too critical. And using SERNET you can have all features of the QL net with the serial port, too (except probably connecting multiple machines, I'm not sure about this point). Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Real Time Clock Failure
It is the red blob on TOP of the processor. It is lithium and thus does not charge. I thought lithium can be re-charged, arent most phone batteries Lithium-Ion, or is that different? Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] was Eidersoft Drawing Off_ICE (past Software Database)
I would like any names and addresses you have of past traders and vendors in your database. I would be willing to try and contact them - I do a lot of this on behalf of the bank for my real job anyway (debt collection!!) So - what have you got? Also, if anyone knows the whereabouts of any old software authors, then please speak up! cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 1850-530-530 Fax: 01-6706813. Direct Line:- (+353)-1-6176082 BOI Group Data Classification - Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Eidersoft Drawing Off_ICE s.q-v-d.com 22/07/2004 04:35 Please respond to ql-users On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 at 18:51:26, Tarquin Mills wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I would certainly consider mailing and trying to contact various QL vendors and authors of past works - with a little help of course, as I dont have many recent addresses. I know Tony has a large Database of past QL'ers - could you help here, tony? Of course - what do you want? Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Byfleet 2004
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 00:01:26 +0100, Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Ok, I think it will be in the Glendalough area againwould hate to come between you and Andrea, nad I enjoy meeting up with her too :-)) I did a Nasta - I did not mean to send that to the list. Hmmm a Nasta? :-D Is it anything like a hard dik? Dunno, but I could tell you a lovely story about floppy diks that occured between Dilwyn and Simon Goodwin at the first irsih QL show ver funny actually. Never seen Dilwyn get so red faced so quick!!! Darren. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Byfleet 2004
Ok, I think it will be in the Glendalough area againwould hate to come between you and Andrea, nad I enjoy meeting up with her too :-)) I will try and organise something for late august, no point advertising the fact 'cos nobody comes anyway!! :-)) I will post something in the next week or so, providing I can find some room to put the handful that will turn up. Who can come - the usual suspects I take it - John hall, Roy, Tony, Sturat (deliberate mispelling a la Tony!!) and maybe Steve Reyal and Dilwyn?? Cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 01-6798230 Fax: 01-6706813. BOI Group Data Classification - Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Byfleet 2004 s.q-v-d.com 15/07/2004 23:40 Please respond to ql-users Then again, we could always hold it in the galway or mayo area for a laugh - now theres a thought. Well as you know I also need an excuse to go and have dinner with Andrea and that is in the wrong area. Still I would be up for popping out to Galway if you want to arrange something. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Byfleet 2004
Yep, I see what you mean... bad choice of words. Although I am a little smaller than I was last time you saw me, in fact I lost two stone earlier this year and have unfortunately put most of it back on The Irish QL meet is in limbo - most of the BB's over here are full for August (have been in many cases since last year - the joy of internet booking) and also its harder for me to disappear for a few days with my family and new son in Galway. I only get to see them on weekends as I work in Dublin, so I hate having to give up a weekend now. Then again, we could always hold it in the galway or mayo area for a laugh - now theres a thought. cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 01-6798230 Fax: 01-6706813. BOI Group Data Classification - Roy wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Byfleet 2004 s.q-v-d.com 13/07/2004 23:54 Please respond to ql-users In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi All, Ken - is the Byfleet date set in stone now? I want to book some flights for it today as I have been scarce at QL shows of late - the joy of becoming a family man!! Darren, the thought of you being scarce is too much for me. No one could ever describe you in that way. On a different note whatever happened to the Irish QL meet? Regards Roy -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Byfleet 2004
Hi All, Ken - is the Byfleet date set in stone now? I want to book some flights for it today as I have been scarce at QL shows of late - the joy of becoming a family man!! Cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 01-6798230 Fax: 01-6706813. BOI Group Data Classification - Ken Bain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ql-users list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] Byfleet 2004 s.q-v-d.com 04/07/2004 20:51 Please respond to ql-users Hi This year's Byfleet Workshop will be on Sunday 28 November. Surrey sub group look forward to seeing you. Directions and map are on www.sadeye.co.uk, and will hopefully also be in Quanta and QLToday. Ken Bain ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] Ken Brickwood
Ken also uses kenbrickwood AT beeb DOT net I have had emails from him on this, but not for about 18 months or more cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 01-6798230 Fax: 01-6706813. BOI Group Data Classification - Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] Ken Brickwood s.q-v-d.com 11/06/2004 08:50 Please respond to ql-users On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 at 23:31:44, Roy wood wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) If anyone is in touch with Ken Brickwood can they get him to call me sometime. I have tried ringing him and never get an answer. I have no email address for him. I have kenbrickwood AT kenbrickwood DOT demon DOT co DOT uk -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users]Decent ISPs
For single use emails addresses, its hard to beat mailinator. I use this to sign up for stuff online, when asked for an email address - you can then go there and get the serial number or login info and forget about all the spam associated with it that comes later!! Also useful if asked to give an email address by someone you dont really want to give it to!! just make one up on the spot and the mailbox is only created when the mail arrives into it!! www.mailinator.com cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 01-6798230 Fax: 01-6706813. BOI Group Data Classification - Dave P [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: s.q-v-d.com Subject: Re: [ql-users]Decent ISPs 03/06/2004 15:59 Please respond to ql-users On Thu, 3 Jun 2004, Tony Firshman wrote: The most effective way to avoid this is simply to use a form on your site, but that's clumsy. Why clumsy? You force the person to edit a document within the minimal editing facilities of a web browser, and limit their ability to include attachments. If the user is partially sighted, they may be forced to edit their email with little control over the font size they're displayed, or with uncomfortable wrapping. Blind users often can't use reader software properly on forms. In these cases, it is best to allow them to use their own email client. An alternative I have seen that is very clever is single use email addresses. You click a link and are issued an email address that is linked to your login site. Spammers get to send one spam then find their site is blocked in future and they cannot request addresses. Whitelisted people can re-use their addresses or be given a private, shared email address. However, this system doesn't work well for some users that have trouble grasping these concepts. That's what AOL is for. :) Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.quanta.org.uk/mailing.htm
Re: [ql-users] QXL 2 question
blessed are the cheesemakers!!! Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 01-6798230 Fax: 01-6706813. BOI Group Data Classification - Marcel Kilgus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ql-users] QXL 2 question s.q-v-d.com 05/05/2004 11:23 Please respond to ql-users Tony Firshman wrote: That looks like late night brian (8-)# I'm Brian and so's my wife! Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List
[ql-users] I've been ill......
Hi all, Just to let you all know I've been quite ill over the past two weeks or so, and out from work with a bad case of gastritis, better known as that winter vomiting bug - an awful dose. . In case anyone has been trying to get me, I'm only back on email now. I'll try to respond in the next day or so. Apologies, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 01-6798230 Fax: 01-6706813. BOI Group Data Classification - This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List
Re: [ql-users] failure messages
Yes. They are probably the NetSky virus. The bank here has been hit very badly with these - we even had to shut down the entire internal email system for a day (affecting 18,000 staff) to stop it. If adds you to its address book and then emails itself to other people in your address book using your name details. I got an email from a person in Italy telling me he recieved an email from me containing it, despite me not knowing him. The next virus writer that is discovered should be viciously beaten about the nether regions with a large stick, that should stop this once and for all :-)) cheers, Darren Branagh, Bank of Ireland - Cards And Loans Business, Nassau House, 33/35 Nassau Street, Dublin 2. Ireland. Tel: 01-6798230 Fax: 01-6706813. BOI Group Data Classification - Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: QL Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ql-users] failure messages s.q-v-d.com 24/03/2004 21:29 Please respond to ql-users Anyone know anything about a series of 'mail delivery failure' messages from all over the place yesterday and today? They all seem to be 42K but I haven't dared view them as my AVG anti-virus reckons they're suspicious though doesn't know what they are, so I deleted them all. At 42K a time they are screwing up my emails a bit as the usual QL mailing list stuff downloads in the time it takes one of these to download. As some of them seem to have Irish domains (.ie), Darren do you have any idea what they are? -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify us immediately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and delete this E-mail from your system. Thank you. It is possible for data transmitted by email to be deliberately or accidentally corrupted or intercepted. For this reason, where the communication is by email, the Bank of Ireland Group does not accept any responsibility for any breach of confidence which may arise through the use of this medium. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of known computer viruses. ___ QL-Users Mailing List
