Re: [Ql-Users] The Last Five Years
And Another answer - A problem shared is a problem halved And many others. Kind Regards, John Gilpin. QUANTA Membership Secretary. members...@quanta.org.uk On 08/01/2014 01:31, Timothy Swenson wrote: On 01/07/2014 04:29 PM, John Gilpin wrote: How long have we put up with QUANTA isn't doing this right or QUANTA isn't doing this at all or QUANTA doesn't know how to run the right type of workshop. Such comments are usually followed by something like and they should be doing. This reminds me of one of my favorite sayings: The answer to the question why doesn't someone?, is Yes, why don't you? Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Hi, So, if people to have long-form articles for the QL, don't just leave it sitting on your local system. Use the existing web sites that we do have. If you don't have a location to host it, ask the mailing list for someone who can. If we have enough authors writing new material, that might encourage someone to create a newsletter. I agree that the best sites would be Geoff's or Dilwyn's. I'd go for Geoff's for news and general articles, Dilwyn's for documentation. However, if there is a need to host some articles, I could probably do it on the SMSQE website. Just to be clear : this would be a simple hosting of things sent to me via email, no blogs or other CMS style possibilities or user uploading. Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 07/01/2014 03:50, Timothy Swenson wrote: I've been sitting out the conversations about Quanta, QL Today, etc, but I thought I would chime in here. When it comes to volunteer projects, we have to remember the old adage: You can take a horse to water, but you can't make him drink Having been on the Board of 4 non-profits, and know how hard it can be to push volunteers to get things done. For QL websites, we really have to wait for a volunteer to step up and do something. Geoff is right about needing a place for long form articles. At the moment, I use two QL websites; the QL forum for news and short discussions, and Dilwyn's site for downloads and basic QL information. I have not done any longer QL writing in a while, but if I did, there is not a single location for it. I'd probably host it on my website and point to it from the QL forums (I've done this some recent ZX81 work). Now, some have suggested that Quanta step up and fill some role, mostly an article oriented website, but they may not be able to find a volunteer to do that. I'm working a new website for a local Museum, but I'm so rusty with HTML stuff that it is a bit of a struggle and not very enjoyable. Eventually, someone will get frustrated enough and do it themselves. This might be enough of a catalyst that gets others involved. Until then all the gnashing of teeth will do nothing. I do admit until a few minutes ago, it had been years (8+) since I visited Geoff's web page. I did not know it had a news section. I've really only been focusing on one website for my QL news (ok, on the mailing list). I don't know if Geoff announced his news section on the QL forum. If he did, I missed it. So, if people to have long-form articles for the QL, don't just leave it sitting on your local system. Use the existing web sites that we do have. If you don't have a location to host it, ask the mailing list for someone who can. If we have enough authors writing new material, that might encourage someone to create a newsletter. Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.ht Perhaps I should explain the background. Originally I had a site on a free host financed by sensible and relevant Google adverts. This went well until the host was overtaken by another host with doubtful advertising. I took the decision to go over to a commercial host and have not regretted it. I rewrote the site for the new host and eventually added a news section to encourage regular visits to the site. This was more news summary than news. After the closure of QL Today I decided to expand the news section, especially as Quanta's previously good news coverage had disappeared. I have been experimenting with in depth news coverage but kept quiet about it to see the reaction via the statistics. My present host has really good statistics. This year was my first attempt at publicity and it been very successful. In my farewell article in QL Today I did plead for an in depth website, but no one seemed to be interested. I suggested that Tony Firshman offers cheap hosting - Dilwyn's site is hosted by Tony, but also said I would be able to host it on mine. If I hosted it, I was thinking of a sister site to Just Words! possible called QL in Depth. I did warn in my article that there are legal problems with an open website because of, for example, copyright and potential libelous content, but I am well used to subediting for QL Today and I think these would be problems that could easily be addressed, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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I am interested! It just takes me a while to get anything done :) I have the web server running and wordpress installed, with a nice skin I think people will enjoy. I am just waiting for a replacement ethernet card and securing the server and a few obvious exploits in the wordpress install and plug-ins, then it'll go live. I'll be happy to grant people who have anything to post admin privileges. I'd rate the job 80% done. Dave On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Geoff Wicks gtwi...@btinternet.com wrote: On 07/01/2014 03:50, Timothy Swenson wrote: I've been sitting out the conversations about Quanta, QL Today, etc, but I thought I would chime in here. When it comes to volunteer projects, we have to remember the old adage: You can take a horse to water, but you can't make him drink Having been on the Board of 4 non-profits, and know how hard it can be to push volunteers to get things done. For QL websites, we really have to wait for a volunteer to step up and do something. Geoff is right about needing a place for long form articles. At the moment, I use two QL websites; the QL forum for news and short discussions, and Dilwyn's site for downloads and basic QL information. I have not done any longer QL writing in a while, but if I did, there is not a single location for it. I'd probably host it on my website and point to it from the QL forums (I've done this some recent ZX81 work). Now, some have suggested that Quanta step up and fill some role, mostly an article oriented website, but they may not be able to find a volunteer to do that. I'm working a new website for a local Museum, but I'm so rusty with HTML stuff that it is a bit of a struggle and not very enjoyable. Eventually, someone will get frustrated enough and do it themselves. This might be enough of a catalyst that gets others involved. Until then all the gnashing of teeth will do nothing. I do admit until a few minutes ago, it had been years (8+) since I visited Geoff's web page. I did not know it had a news section. I've really only been focusing on one website for my QL news (ok, on the mailing list). I don't know if Geoff announced his news section on the QL forum. If he did, I missed it. So, if people to have long-form articles for the QL, don't just leave it sitting on your local system. Use the existing web sites that we do have. If you don't have a location to host it, ask the mailing list for someone who can. If we have enough authors writing new material, that might encourage someone to create a newsletter. Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.ht Perhaps I should explain the background. Originally I had a site on a free host financed by sensible and relevant Google adverts. This went well until the host was overtaken by another host with doubtful advertising. I took the decision to go over to a commercial host and have not regretted it. I rewrote the site for the new host and eventually added a news section to encourage regular visits to the site. This was more news summary than news. After the closure of QL Today I decided to expand the news section, especially as Quanta's previously good news coverage had disappeared. I have been experimenting with in depth news coverage but kept quiet about it to see the reaction via the statistics. My present host has really good statistics. This year was my first attempt at publicity and it been very successful. In my farewell article in QL Today I did plead for an in depth website, but no one seemed to be interested. I suggested that Tony Firshman offers cheap hosting - Dilwyn's site is hosted by Tony, but also said I would be able to host it on mine. If I hosted it, I was thinking of a sister site to Just Words! possible called QL in Depth. I did warn in my article that there are legal problems with an open website because of, for example, copyright and potential libelous content, but I am well used to subediting for QL Today and I think these would be problems that could easily be addressed, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Dave Park Sandy Electronics, LLC d...@sinclairql.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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At long last!! Someone who has bothered to turn the coin over and see what the other side looks like - Thanks Tim. How long have we put up with QUANTA isn't doing this right or QUANTA isn't doing this at all or QUANTA doesn't know how to run the right type of workshop. Such comments are usually followed by something like and they should be doing. Tim has hit the nail on the head in saying that even those who volunteer are not always professional at everything they are expected (and try) to do. but how long has it been since those who are objecting actually not only offered their services but actually got up and did something? (bad health permitting). OK, let's have a QL is 30 in Edinburgh! - Who did you say is running it? and at what cost? and for how many attendees? Why did the regular South London Workshops stop running? Because the organiser(s) got fed up with nobody turning up (Even then, the presence of members of the QUANTA Committee didn't count - pity we can't hold an AGM without them!!) I will, eventually, get round to publishing a fully detailed Budget for a QL is 30 type workshop and I will challenge anyone to reduce my costs by a considerable margin - realistically. Tim, If you want to publish any of your articles, have you thought of sending a copy to the QUANTA Magazine editor? It used to be published Monthly but due to both the cost of Printing and Postage compared with the number of Subscribers, and the gradual lack of usable copy, it had to go to Bi-monthly. I am certain that Lee will give it a very favourable comment and may even ask you to become a regular contributor. Worth a thought? Why not? Kind Regards, John Gilpin. QUANTA Membership Secretary Treasurer. On 07/01/2014 03:50, Timothy Swenson wrote: I've been sitting out the conversations about Quanta, QL Today, etc, but I thought I would chime in here. When it comes to volunteer projects, we have to remember the old adage: You can take a horse to water, but you can't make him drink Having been on the Board of 4 non-profits, and know how hard it can be to push volunteers to get things done. For QL websites, we really have to wait for a volunteer to step up and do something. Geoff is right about needing a place for long form articles. At the moment, I use two QL websites; the QL forum for news and short discussions, and Dilwyn's site for downloads and basic QL information. I have not done any longer QL writing in a while, but if I did, there is not a single location for it. I'd probably host it on my website and point to it from the QL forums (I've done this some recent ZX81 work). Now, some have suggested that Quanta step up and fill some role, mostly an article oriented website, but they may not be able to find a volunteer to do that. I'm working a new website for a local Museum, but I'm so rusty with HTML stuff that it is a bit of a struggle and not very enjoyable. Eventually, someone will get frustrated enough and do it themselves. This might be enough of a catalyst that gets others involved. Until then all the gnashing of teeth will do nothing. I do admit until a few minutes ago, it had been years (8+) since I visited Geoff's web page. I did not know it had a news section. I've really only been focusing on one website for my QL news (ok, on the mailing list). I don't know if Geoff announced his news section on the QL forum. If he did, I missed it. So, if people to have long-form articles for the QL, don't just leave it sitting on your local system. Use the existing web sites that we do have. If you don't have a location to host it, ask the mailing list for someone who can. If we have enough authors writing new material, that might encourage someone to create a newsletter. Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] The Last Five Years
On 01/07/2014 04:29 PM, John Gilpin wrote: How long have we put up with QUANTA isn't doing this right or QUANTA isn't doing this at all or QUANTA doesn't know how to run the right type of workshop. Such comments are usually followed by something like and they should be doing. This reminds me of one of my favorite sayings: The answer to the question why doesn't someone?, is Yes, why don't you? Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] The Last Five Years
I've been sitting out the conversations about Quanta, QL Today, etc, but I thought I would chime in here. When it comes to volunteer projects, we have to remember the old adage: You can take a horse to water, but you can't make him drink Having been on the Board of 4 non-profits, and know how hard it can be to push volunteers to get things done. For QL websites, we really have to wait for a volunteer to step up and do something. Geoff is right about needing a place for long form articles. At the moment, I use two QL websites; the QL forum for news and short discussions, and Dilwyn's site for downloads and basic QL information. I have not done any longer QL writing in a while, but if I did, there is not a single location for it. I'd probably host it on my website and point to it from the QL forums (I've done this some recent ZX81 work). Now, some have suggested that Quanta step up and fill some role, mostly an article oriented website, but they may not be able to find a volunteer to do that. I'm working a new website for a local Museum, but I'm so rusty with HTML stuff that it is a bit of a struggle and not very enjoyable. Eventually, someone will get frustrated enough and do it themselves. This might be enough of a catalyst that gets others involved. Until then all the gnashing of teeth will do nothing. I do admit until a few minutes ago, it had been years (8+) since I visited Geoff's web page. I did not know it had a news section. I've really only been focusing on one website for my QL news (ok, on the mailing list). I don't know if Geoff announced his news section on the QL forum. If he did, I missed it. So, if people to have long-form articles for the QL, don't just leave it sitting on your local system. Use the existing web sites that we do have. If you don't have a location to host it, ask the mailing list for someone who can. If we have enough authors writing new material, that might encourage someone to create a newsletter. Tim Swenson ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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On 03/01/2014 10:04, Derek Stewart wrote: Hi Geoff, I like your web site, no problems with Firefox and PDF plugins, but I am using Linux. Regards, Derek Thanks for the compliment. Since the closure of QL Today I have had a 50% increase in hits on my news page. It happened suddenly and sharply in September and has remained stable since then. I think this indicates there is a demand for online news. Quanta would be advised to get its news service back online ASAP. On Thursday and Friday 40 people accessed the Last Five Years article, which is very encouraging. I have been keeping very quiet about the changes to the news page, but watching the statistics carefully. The in depth articles are popular. In my last QL Today piece I suggested we needed an in depth website, but only one person reacted (hartelijk bedankt, Bob!) . I still think there is a place for online articles if anyone is interested. If we work hard we can make the 30th QL year something to be proud of as Dave Park suggested, Best Wishes, Geoff www.gwicks.net/justwords.html ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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I installed a few CMS systems offline at sinclairql.com to try them out, and honestly, wordpress came out as the simplest and best. I will make it a mission to get that all up and running during Jan/Feb. Then, anyone who wants to become an editor can do so. Also, there will be some new hardware this year - SDHC interfaces coming out of Germany, and other things from other places If you're not a Quanta member, you might want to join this year. I know of one outfit that will be offering subscription covering discounts on hardware to Quanta members On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Geoff Wicks gtwi...@btinternet.com wrote: On 03/01/2014 10:04, Derek Stewart wrote: Hi Geoff, I like your web site, no problems with Firefox and PDF plugins, but I am using Linux. Regards, Derek Thanks for the compliment. Since the closure of QL Today I have had a 50% increase in hits on my news page. It happened suddenly and sharply in September and has remained stable since then. I think this indicates there is a demand for online news. Quanta would be advised to get its news service back online ASAP. On Thursday and Friday 40 people accessed the Last Five Years article, which is very encouraging. I have been keeping very quiet about the changes to the news page, but watching the statistics carefully. The in depth articles are popular. In my last QL Today piece I suggested we needed an in depth website, but only one person reacted (hartelijk bedankt, Bob!) . I still think there is a place for online articles if anyone is interested. If we work hard we can make the 30th QL year something to be proud of as Dave Park suggested, Best Wishes, Geoff www.gwicks.net/justwords.html ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Dave Park Sandy Electronics, LLC d...@sinclairql.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Geoff Wicks wrote: Since the closure of QL Today I have had a 50% increase in hits on my news page. It happened suddenly and sharply in September and has remained stable since then. I think this indicates there is a demand for online news. I was not aware and visited yesterday for the first time. Very well done. I like that you collect information over longer periods of time. Peter ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Hi Dave, I tried to access sinclairql.com, it does not seem to be available. Regards, Derek On 04/01/14 17:32, Dave Park wrote: I installed a few CMS systems offline at sinclairql.com to try them out, and honestly, wordpress came out as the simplest and best. I will make it a mission to get that all up and running during Jan/Feb. Then, anyone who wants to become an editor can do so. Also, there will be some new hardware this year - SDHC interfaces coming out of Germany, and other things from other places If you're not a Quanta member, you might want to join this year. I know of one outfit that will be offering subscription covering discounts on hardware to Quanta members On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Geoff Wicks gtwi...@btinternet.com wrote: On 03/01/2014 10:04, Derek Stewart wrote: Hi Geoff, I like your web site, no problems with Firefox and PDF plugins, but I am using Linux. Regards, Derek Thanks for the compliment. Since the closure of QL Today I have had a 50% increase in hits on my news page. It happened suddenly and sharply in September and has remained stable since then. I think this indicates there is a demand for online news. Quanta would be advised to get its news service back online ASAP. On Thursday and Friday 40 people accessed the Last Five Years article, which is very encouraging. I have been keeping very quiet about the changes to the news page, but watching the statistics carefully. The in depth articles are popular. In my last QL Today piece I suggested we needed an in depth website, but only one person reacted (hartelijk bedankt, Bob!) . I still think there is a place for online articles if anyone is interested. If we work hard we can make the 30th QL year something to be proud of as Dave Park suggested, Best Wishes, Geoff www.gwicks.net/justwords.html ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Like I said, sinclairql.com is offline ;) On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Derek Stewart de...@q40.de wrote: Hi Dave, I tried to access sinclairql.com, it does not seem to be available. Regards, Derek On 04/01/14 17:32, Dave Park wrote: I installed a few CMS systems offline at sinclairql.com to try them out, and honestly, wordpress came out as the simplest and best. I will make it a mission to get that all up and running during Jan/Feb. Then, anyone who wants to become an editor can do so. Also, there will be some new hardware this year - SDHC interfaces coming out of Germany, and other things from other places If you're not a Quanta member, you might want to join this year. I know of one outfit that will be offering subscription covering discounts on hardware to Quanta members On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Geoff Wicks gtwi...@btinternet.com wrote: On 03/01/2014 10:04, Derek Stewart wrote: Hi Geoff, I like your web site, no problems with Firefox and PDF plugins, but I am using Linux. Regards, Derek Thanks for the compliment. Since the closure of QL Today I have had a 50% increase in hits on my news page. It happened suddenly and sharply in September and has remained stable since then. I think this indicates there is a demand for online news. Quanta would be advised to get its news service back online ASAP. On Thursday and Friday 40 people accessed the Last Five Years article, which is very encouraging. I have been keeping very quiet about the changes to the news page, but watching the statistics carefully. The in depth articles are popular. In my last QL Today piece I suggested we needed an in depth website, but only one person reacted (hartelijk bedankt, Bob!) . I still think there is a place for online articles if anyone is interested. If we work hard we can make the 30th QL year something to be proud of as Dave Park suggested, Best Wishes, Geoff www.gwicks.net/justwords.html ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Dave Park Sandy Electronics, LLC d...@sinclairql.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Hi Geoff, I like your web site, no problems with Firefox and PDF plugins, but I am using Linux. Regards, Derek On 02/01/14 19:31, Geoff Wicks wrote: If anyone is still interested in organising a QLis30 event, I have written an account of the last five QL years. There have probably been more positive developments than most of us think, but also a few disappointments. It is available on the news page of my website: www.gwicks.net/justwords.html Just a word of caution to Firefox users. I am currently having problems with the PDF plug in following an upgrade last week from Windows 8.00 to Windows 8.1. Apparently this is affecting other users after various upgradings. If you get a problem either download the pdf file or, better still, click on Open with a different viewer and choose Adobe, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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Works fine on Android too Geoff. Pdfs work fine as well. Must, as ever, be Windows! (ducks and runs!) Happy new year all. Cheers, Norm. Derek Stewart de...@q40.de wrote: Hi Geoff, I like your web site, no problems with Firefox and PDF plugins, but I am using Linux. Regards, Derek On 02/01/14 19:31, Geoff Wicks wrote: If anyone is still interested in organising a QLis30 event, I have written an account of the last five QL years. There have probably been more positive developments than most of us think, but also a few disappointments. It is available on the news page of my website: www.gwicks.net/justwords.html Just a word of caution to Firefox users. I am currently having problems with the PDF plug in following an upgrade last week from Windows 8.00 to Windows 8.1. Apparently this is affecting other users after various upgradings. If you get a problem either download the pdf file or, better still, click on Open with a different viewer and choose Adobe, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
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In Safari on a Mac, the links just open a new table for Just Words. Right clicking on the PDF links then selecting Open in new tab works though. As for the content; it is a mixed bag. I am confident, however, that you will have a much more positive report of this 30th year once it is over. :) Dave On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 5:37 AM, Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.ukwrote: Works fine on Android too Geoff. Pdfs work fine as well. Must, as ever, be Windows! (ducks and runs!) Happy new year all. Cheers, Norm. Derek Stewart de...@q40.de wrote: Hi Geoff, I like your web site, no problems with Firefox and PDF plugins, but I am using Linux. Regards, Derek On 02/01/14 19:31, Geoff Wicks wrote: If anyone is still interested in organising a QLis30 event, I have written an account of the last five QL years. There have probably been more positive developments than most of us think, but also a few disappointments. It is available on the news page of my website: www.gwicks.net/justwords.html Just a word of caution to Firefox users. I am currently having problems with the PDF plug in following an upgrade last week from Windows 8.00 to Windows 8.1. Apparently this is affecting other users after various upgradings. If you get a problem either download the pdf file or, better still, click on Open with a different viewer and choose Adobe, Best wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Dave Park Sandy Electronics, LLC d...@sinclairql.com ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
