Re: qmail problem quitting

2000-02-24 Thread Paul Jarc
Miguel Sarmiento writes: If [...] qmail does not start or gets kill for some reason, then if I login su and start the script manually (i.e. scriptqmail start) qmail does start but if I logout puff! qmail exits. ... the faq mentions that if upon rebooting qmail exits to use the NOHUP to start

Re: Maildir and procmail and safecat

2000-02-24 Thread Paul Jarc
Sam writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Solaris an empty program issues some 19 system calls including 2 opens. A write() of 1 byte surely gets lost in the noise. After I cleaned up the typos, I averaged .11 seconds in ten sample runs (versus .14). But with what kind of distribution?

Re: Maildir and procmail and safecat

2000-02-24 Thread Paul Jarc
Sam writes: The reason that I had the redundant buffer clear in the "one write" version is so that both benchmarks had the same setup overhead. But that's not the way it happens in reality. The fill-buffer, single-write way *doesn't* have that overhead, and so neither should the test version

Re: Maildir and procmail and safecat

2000-02-24 Thread Paul Jarc
Sam writes: On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Len Budney wrote: 1. In my benchmark, I ganged 1,390 runs using actual, distinct email If you can't be bothered to properly interpret the results of the write() system call, He *is* properly interpreting the results. He's just making the interpretation

Re: qmail won't compile

2000-02-20 Thread Paul Jarc
Rawlinsons (Qld) Head Office writes: I'm running Linux 5.2 Linux 5.2 doesn't exist yet. Perhaps you meant Red Hat 5.2, which probably means you're running Linux 2.0.36 or thereabouts. I downloaded qmail 1.03 to a Windoze machine on my intranet, unzipped (WinZip 7.0) it into a directory

RE: qmail won't compile

2000-02-20 Thread Paul Jarc
Rawlinsons (Qld) Head Office writes: I've printed the text files from the Windoze box, but haven't saved them back anywhere, so it's not a CR/LF issue. I suspect it might be exactly that. WinZip may have changed the line endings from LF to CRLF, which would certainly break qmail's Makefile.

Re: Filtering

2000-02-20 Thread Paul Jarc
WL writes: I'm new to the list and Qmail - is there anyway of adding an email address to a "spammers" file to be deleted before it gets to my mailbox? One possible way to do this is by putting something like this at the top of your ~/.qmail: |grep -f .spammers /dev/null exit 99; exit 0 If

Re: HLP: How do I know if qmail received my emails?

2000-02-19 Thread Paul Jarc
Tony Mai writes: #cd /home/tmai #/var/qmail/bin/maildirmake /home/tmai/Maildir I assume from the `#'s that you did this as root. Your Maildir needs to be owned by tmai. (Assuming Linux; tweak the following commands as necessary for your system.) # chown -R tmai.tmai ~tmai/Maildir

Re: Filtering

2000-02-21 Thread Paul Jarc
WL writes: From: Paul Jarc [EMAIL PROTECTED] One possible way to do this is by putting something like this at the top of your ~/.qmail: |grep -f .spammers /dev/null exit 99; exit 0 How about having something like this in the Spammers File: ^Subject:.*\$$$ spamming words like dollars

Re: forcing /var/spool/mail delivery using a dot-qmail file

2000-02-21 Thread Paul Jarc
Kristina writes: I want to configure qmail-local to deliver mail to /var/spool/mail/username/ Maildir. You might try putting '/var/spool/mail/$LOCAL/Maildir/' in /var/qmail/rc (or whatever you use to start qmail), in place of the default delivery method (probably ./Maildir or '|preline

Re: First qustion

2000-02-21 Thread Paul Jarc
Henri J. Schlereth writes: My question is why cant I send and receive mail to root. man qmail-getpw: qmail-getpw considers an account in /etc/passwd to be a user if (1) the account has a nonzero uid, (2) the account's home directory exists (and is visible to

Re: Ok I'll bite

2000-02-21 Thread Paul Jarc
Henri J. Schlereth writes: the man pages dont install unless I missed a step They should be in /var/qmail/man. man won't know to look there unless you put it in $MANPATH or (in my case, I don't know how portable this is) in `/etc/man.config'. why is this a security issue? Simply because

Re: How to know how to display a email...

2000-02-22 Thread Paul Jarc
Michael Boman writes: Situation: Users send and recive emails in English, Chinese and Japanise etc. Problem: The problem is how to generate the correct Content-type header on HTML pages. Why not just copy the Content-Type header that's in the email itself? paul

conditional forward jump in .qmail

2000-07-02 Thread Paul Jarc
Closing the gap slightly between qmail-local and procmail... I've implemented a flow control feature in qmail-local for .qmail files. If you have a sequence of lines like: ?label command arg ... ... :label it'll deliver the message to the command, and if the command exits with status

Re: does qmail+ezmlm divid subscribers in chunks by domain?

2000-07-03 Thread Paul Jarc
??? writes: Then I send a message to the mailling list, does qmail+ezmlm 1.Send ONE message to "remote.host". And let the MTA of "remote.host" deliver the message to these 26 accounts? or 2.Send 26 message to "remote.host"? 2. Sending separate messages means bounces are handled

RE: smtpd/run

2000-07-03 Thread Paul Jarc
Eddie Greer writes: softlimit: fatal: unable to run : file does not exist ... Here is a copy of my /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-stmpd/run file #!/bin/sh QMAILDUID=`/usr/xpg4/bin/id -u =qmaild` NOFILESGID=`/usr/xpg4/bin/id -g =qmaild` Those `='s aren't suppoesd to be there, are they? exec

Re: tcprules, rcpthost, ip address problem

2000-07-03 Thread Paul Jarc
Barry Dwyer writes: If I create a rcpthosts file with just the local domain in it (that's all I want), then every local client that tries to send mail out to the 'net gets a qmail error message saying the destination domain is not in the list of receipt hosts (or something to that effect).

Re: qmail and dial-on-demand

2000-07-05 Thread Paul Jarc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The other question that arises is that I'd quite like qmail *not* to accept SMTP mail from the outside world (my ISP delivers using SMTP but want it to continue to accept SMTP mail from other computers on my home LAN. How can I do this? man tcprules. If you have

Re: spam and well known smtp servers

2000-07-05 Thread Paul Jarc
Cerberus - the Guardian of Hades writes: i need to unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] from this list as he is no longer a user at this server. please help. 0. Arrange for mail to those addresses to be delivered somewhere where you can get to it. 1.

Re: qmail-start

2000-07-05 Thread Paul Jarc
Dennis Robertson writes: Firstly as user when I open a term I get the message: env: qmail-start: Permission denied. I have followed both LWQ and the how-to and have checked permissions without finding what is wrong. Secondly, when I open a term I get a number like [1] 27087 in the top left

Re: rejecting subscribe/unsubscribe requests

2000-07-05 Thread Paul Jarc
Hand, Brian C. writes: How does one setup qmail and ezmlm to allow subscribes and unsubscribes to be done ONLY by command line. If you remove listdir/public, ezmlm-manage will stop responding to all administrative requests, including -subscribe, -unsubscribe, and -get. If you want -get to keep

Re: .qmail

2000-07-06 Thread Paul Jarc
Eddie Greer writes: The problem is when I telnet to localhost 25 and follow the direction from the TEST.deliver, I connect to the port and run all the commands but the mail does not get delivered. I took a look at the log and it states the following: deferral:

Re: qmail-start

2000-07-06 Thread Paul Jarc
Dennis Robertson writes: Paul Jarc wrote: /var/qmail/rc should be run as part of *system* startup, not user login. Thanks. I'm going to uninstall qmail and try again. Where should the command be? You probably don't need to reinstall. Just remove that command from your .bashrc

Re: Relaying once again...

2000-07-07 Thread Paul Jarc
Sylwester S. Biernacki writes: /var/qmail/control/rcpthosts here you define which machines you allow to be your relay clients. No, that file lists the destination hosts and domains that qmail accepts mail for via SMTP and QMTP. To allow certain senders to relay though you to any destination,

Re: Help plz, How to delete messages??

2000-07-07 Thread Paul Jarc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: there is more than 25000 mail left on our mail queque, how can i remove them (only for one spec. user), there is some important mail (from other users) among them. Wait a week, and qmail will give up on those messages. paul

Re: OT: can't unsubscribe

2000-07-07 Thread Paul Jarc
Mirko Koenig writes: i worte at least two messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] but i recieve messages again and again. how can i unsubscribe the list? Look for Return-Path: in the header of the messages you get from the list. Mine looks like this: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You'll see

Re: OT: can't unsubscribe

2000-07-07 Thread Paul Jarc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Acknowledgment: The address [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not on this mailing list. This is telling you that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wasn't subscribed to begin with. (The text would be different if ezmlm had removed the address from the list.) Apparently, you're subscribed

Re: supervise lock problem on startup/install

2000-07-07 Thread Paul Jarc
J!M writes: [root@samurai /root]# /var/qmail/rc: default: command not found What does your /var/qmail/rc look like? paul

Re: Home Windows/linux network mail system - please help

2000-07-10 Thread Paul Jarc
Ondrej Sury writes: Bruno Prior wrote: (d) How important is it that I use maildir rather than mbox format? All the info on the qmail sites seems to imply that it's very important, but is maildir really necessary for my meager needs? And would it be more complicated to use than mbox

Re: qmail install problem

2000-07-10 Thread Paul Jarc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Test.recieve works to I enter data, and then I get 220 kerryb.basicq.com ESMTP helo dude 250 kerryb.basicq.com mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 ok data 503 RCPT first (#5.5.1) If I enter data, I get the following message. 502 unimplemented (#5.5.1) "503 RCPT

Re: qsanity question

2000-07-10 Thread Paul Jarc
Tony Campisi writes: [root@# /var/qmail/bin]# ./qmail-qread [root@# /var/qmail/bin]# ./qmail-qsanity message has no entry in info: 50493 message is neither local nor remote: 50493 My question.. is there any way to look at this message and /or deliver it? As root (or qmailq), look

Re: var spool mail --- Maildir

2000-07-10 Thread Paul Jarc
Jochen E. Führing writes: We have a site running about 100 users and now we want to move to qmail.Howto convert all the /var/spool/mail/user messages into the Maidir Format ? See URL:http://www.qmail.org/top.html#maildir. paul

Re: qmail install problem

2000-07-11 Thread Paul Jarc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, where is the mailbox I am supposed to look in? I use pine, and even tried mutt, but no messages in either. I think I remember seeing something on making some cahnges in these to to make work with qmail. The instructions you're looking for are in INSTALL.mbox.

Re: vpopmail+qmail+maildir

2000-07-11 Thread Paul Jarc
Jussi Salokangas writes: I have about 200 users on system. Everyone has a file called 'Mailbox' and I would like to change 'Maildir' so I could use qmail pop-3. Is this possible with some script, that root could change them to Maildir? There may be something useful at

Re: want to leave

2000-07-11 Thread Paul Jarc
John van V. writes: I'm not sure who is moderating, but maybe a message at the bottom w/ the escape clause... This list isn't moderated, and AFAIK, the list owner doesn't read it. paul

RE: deferral: Unable_to_switch_to_/home/mailhome/s/simonyjh:_access_denied._(#4.3.0)/

2000-07-11 Thread Paul Jarc
Chris Tolley writes: sed s/\:1001\:/\:new_GUD\: assign.timestamp assign.whatever ... Just in case you didn't know, you use \ to "escape" the character so that the command line doesn't try to interpret it. The : means "null" and is used in shell scripting for "doing nothing" You don't need

Re: .qmail file does not work (this is right one ,first i made some mistake in it)

2000-07-12 Thread Paul Jarc
asantos writes: Second, I'm not very familiar with egrep's regular expressions, but if I was to parenthise what you wrote it would seem to me that egrep would read it as (word(1|w)ord(2|w)ord3) No, concatenation takes precedence over selection (i.e., `|') in regular expressions. paul

Re: dual smtpd

2000-07-12 Thread Paul Jarc
Ihnen, David writes: I want to accept email either A. from a set of defined IP addresses or B. to a set of defined domains See URL:http://web.infoave.net/~dsill/lwq.html#relaying or URL:http://www.palomine.net/qmail/selectiverelay.html. You'll set it up so that tcpserver allows all

Re: tcprulescheck

2000-07-13 Thread Paul Jarc
Andrew Hill writes: "Brian D. Winters" wrote: TCPREMOTEIP=203.34.190.170 tcprulescheck /etc/tcp.smtp.cdb Well, I don't know what parts you are carefully reading that indicate that you should use the above command, becuase to me, the page says to use the command: tcprulescheck cdb

Re: batch unsubs and subs

2000-07-13 Thread Paul Jarc
Hand, Brian C. writes: if a have a large list say 325000+ address to add or delete to a mailing list and have them in a text file. one address per line. can ezmlm-unsub or sub be made to patch them all at once. ezmlm-sub accepts multiple addresses on the command line. Do: $ ezmlm-sub

Re: Help with 'config-fast'

2000-07-13 Thread Paul Jarc
Hart, Neil writes: I plan to use qmail in a mail-server, using a dial-up ISP account and feeding Windows PCs with their mail. This Linux box, does not have an address that would be known by a DNS. Therefore, I am not sure what the 'full.host.name' is in my situation. Does it mean

Re: Doh!! Newbie dumb question!! ucspi installed or not?

2000-07-13 Thread Paul Jarc
Steven M. Klass writes: I'm getting ready to press forward, and install vpopmail. Now I know that I have ucspi source files, but I don't know how to check to see if it's installed.. If you know you built it, and you still have the build directory, look at conf-home to see where it would be

Re: Help! Qmail tells me domain not found in rcphosts

2000-07-13 Thread Paul Jarc
Jochen E. Führing writes: If I try to mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to another domain, like list.cr.yp.to, my qmail refuses to take the mail with this message : "domain not found in rcphosts" I don't understand! pcsystems.de is in the rcphosts. I can't put every domain in this file I want

Re: Help! Qmail tells me domain not found in rcphosts

2000-07-13 Thread Paul Jarc
Jochen E. Führing writes: But in fact, the domain where the mail is coming from IS in rcphosts! That doesn't matter; rcpthosts is checked against where the mail is *going*. qmail will receive mail on behalf of whichever domains are listed there. So it's useless for controlling who you

Re: Alias Problem: Part 2

2000-07-13 Thread Paul Jarc
Jochen E. Führing writes: I just rechecked the alias Problem: /var/qmail/control/virtualdomains says stange.net:stange-stangenet But even if I setup ~stange/.qmail-stangenet-default I get this error: qmail-send will not re-read virtualdomains until you send it a SIGHUP or shut it down and

Re: tcpserver pop3

2000-07-14 Thread Paul Jarc
Federico Barbazza writes: i installed tcpserver to run for pop3. this is my code line: "tcpserver -u 0 -g 0 -c 100 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup hostname checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir " Is it rigtht to launch tcpserver as root??? tcpserver must be run as root initially

Re: and yet another NEWBIE question

2000-07-14 Thread Paul Jarc
now, i dont want to have /home/dom1-sales/Mailbox and /home/dom2-sales/Mailbox but instead have /mailuser/dom1-sales/Mailbox and /mailuser/dom2-sales/Mailbox is this possible and if so, how? You can make entries for these addresses in /var/qmail/users/assign, and let the homedir field be

Re: very urgent :qq Truoble in home directory

2000-07-19 Thread Paul Jarc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what i have to write in my "inetd.conf" to make qmail-smtpd run under inetd.conf , i have gone through the docs but thats not working for me smtp stream nowait qmaild /var/qmail/bin/tcp-env \ tcp-env /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd Many files allow you

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-21 Thread Paul Jarc
Mark Mentovai [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If an MTA receives a message with 100 recipients with the same MX, there is no reason to transfer the message to the remote mail exchanger 100 times. Yes, there is: per-recipient VERPs. You may not see this as outweighing the bandwidth issue, but it's

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-21 Thread Paul Jarc
"Frank Tegtmeyer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, there is: per-recipient VERPs. If VERPs are used you have different senders. So bundling receivers of the same message at one host is a non issue at all (at least with SMTP). That's my point: VERPs are good, but using them requires sending

Re: SMTP question.

2000-07-21 Thread Paul Jarc
Z [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was wondering if there was a way that I can have SMTP do a database lookup in order to find out where the mail should be delivered. What i mean is let's say that the SMTP server gets a request for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I need it to search in a mySQL database

Re: more forced queueing

2000-07-21 Thread Paul Jarc
"M.B." [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had a similar question a while back to which Russell was kind enough to suggest a fix: to queue all *inbound mail* just modify qmail-getpw to _exit(111). Note that this won't take effect for addresses listed in users/assign. qmail-lspawn invokes

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-24 Thread Paul Jarc
"Michael T. Babcock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: VERP was proposed by DJB as a way to identify bounce recipients. VERP requires that each recipient have their own From: as well as To:. Not quite: it's envelope senders and recipients, not To: and From: fields. (So recipients can still receive

Re: void main (no, not a long one)

2000-07-24 Thread Paul Jarc
Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Theoretically, "void main" is wrong. In practice, it works just fine. Personally, I could not care less. Theoretically, BIND's noncompliance with standards is wrong. In practice, it interoperates with most of the world (i.e., itself) just fine. But I care.

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-24 Thread Paul Jarc
"Michael T. Babcock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Nathan J. Mehl" wrote: Qmail is not "open source software". Is not now. Has never been. In all probability never will be. You are free to tell me where I was supposed to agree to a license agreement before downloading it Those license

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-24 Thread Paul Jarc
"Michael T. Babcock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That said, I have still seen nothing about the licensing of his software besides that he doesn't care about anything that isn't implicitly illegal. See URL:http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html. paul

Re: Yet another /var/spool/mail questions

2000-07-24 Thread Paul Jarc
Dave Sill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The qmail delivery agent *only* delivers to mailboxes under the user's home directory. Well, qmail-local can deliver to maildirs or mboxes anywhere, but there's no way to describe a maildir or mbox in a user-dependent way except by using a path relative to

Re: Default Delivery Question

2000-07-25 Thread Paul Jarc
Derek Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . . . I want to try something like this, to achieve a global incoming mail filter without using any qmail-queue wrappers or modifications: qmail-start "|/var/qmail/bin/myfilter |tomaildir $HOME/Maildir" splogger qmail That should work, as long as

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-25 Thread Paul Jarc
Peter van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 11:24:17AM -0400, Paul Jarc wrote: Does QMTP support per-recipient envelope senders for a single copy of a single message? qmail will happily expand VERP after a message has been entered thru SMTP/QMTP. But does QMTP

Re: mail server location question

2000-07-25 Thread Paul Jarc
Bruce Edge [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to rely on the dns MX records on the firewall to route mail to the qmail server, which is on an internal LAN, with a non Internet routable 192.168.1 address. If you want mail to be able to get in, something that accepts mail has to be visible to the

Re: Double Forwarding

2000-07-26 Thread Paul Jarc
"Neil D. Roberts" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a mail queue called domain.es No, you have a virtual domain called domain.es. You have only one mail queue, and it is in /var/qmail/queue. (When you misuse the terminology like this, it's difficult to understand your question.) and it´s

Re: Clean queue

2000-07-28 Thread Paul Jarc
"Nguyen Hong Son" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: _ How to delete messages in queue ? This is answered at URL:http://qmail.sgi.net/qmail/top.html#tips. (grep for `week'.) First, identify the message you want to kill. The full message appears in /var/qmail/queue/mess/N/12345, where N is a number

Re: orbs.org accuses qmail of mailbomb relaying!

2000-07-28 Thread Paul Jarc
Peter van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 04:59:27PM -0400, Michael T. Babcock wrote: The encoded envelope sender address isn't expanded on beyond the examples given, but your proposal might give a good performance increase for very large lists (a la redhat.com

Hard linking messages between maildirs

2000-08-11 Thread Paul Jarc
I'm a maildir user agent. I've got a message in a maildir, and my user wants a copy of it in another maildir as well. If the maildirs are on the same filesystem, can I just make a hard link, or do I have to make a copy? The maildir specification doesn't explicitly address this, so a strict

Re: Hard linking messages between maildirs

2000-08-14 Thread Paul Jarc
"Slider" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is an easier solution! If [EMAIL PROTECTED] wants all mail that goes to him to be copied to another maildir as well as for him to get a copy to go to another maildir. That doesn't cover my situation at all. This has nothing to do with delivery

Re: qmail and IP addresses.....

2000-08-16 Thread Paul Jarc
Vince Vielhaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Sean C Truman wrote: /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v 199.111.111.111 smtp /var/qmail/bin/qmail-smtpd That will only allow hosts with the address 199.111.111.111 to connect, not connections to that address. You have that backwards.

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Paul Jarc
Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 02:39:25PM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: So has any expert ever audited qmail or djbdns? No. Any audit worth doing would be prohibitively expensive for a freeware project. $1000 wouldn't even begin to cover it, at least for

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Paul Jarc
Mate Wierdl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So has any expert ever audited qmail or djbdns? I imagine Dan has, and many would consider him an expert, but one is rarely the best auditor of one's own work. paul

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-14 Thread Paul Jarc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whilst an audit is a good idea, I don't see how a competition and time in the field can actual make matters worse. It can make people think a program is secure when no audit has been done, reducing the likelihood that anyone will call for an audit, leaving holes

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-15 Thread Paul Jarc
Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 03:11:43PM -0500, Paul Jarc wrote: Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not to mention that the whole point of freeware and open source software in general is to give everyone the ability to audit the software, not just

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-15 Thread Paul Jarc
Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Nov 14, 2000 at 03:35:35PM -0500, Paul Jarc wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whilst an audit is a good idea, I don't see how a competition and time in the field can actual make matters worse. It can make people think a program is secure

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-15 Thread Paul Jarc
Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 08:18:29PM +1300, Chris K. Young wrote: I say that dist.html should be considered authoritative. There are references in the qmail and djbdns documentation that contain the URL to their respective pages. That's what you say.

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-15 Thread Paul Jarc
Ryan Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Mate Wierdl wrote: Indeed, it would be interesting what kind of testing he is running on qmail, say (he says there are over 100 tests), and how he is trying to make sure his software is secure. If you want to see some of the

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-19 Thread Paul Jarc
"Pavel Kankovsky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But there are ABSOLUTELY no references to dist.html or softwarelaw.html in the source tarballs. So what? Moreover, softwarelaw.html is about using the software ``once you've legally downloaded [it]'', dist.html is about (re)distribution of qmail

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread Paul Jarc
Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 09:05:04PM -0500, Paul Jarc wrote: : I don't know which of these theories will succeed in court. I also : don't think you should have to care. So I promise I won't sue you : for copyright violation for downloading documents

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread Paul Jarc
"Michael T. Babcock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Jarc wrote: "Pavel Kankovsky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But there are ABSOLUTELY no references to dist.html or softwarelaw.html in the source tarballs. So what? So when a lot of people download the files,

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread Paul Jarc
Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want an unambiguous license included with the software that explicitly defines what I am allowed to do with it. If you don't need that then fine, but please don't argue that it's not needed, because there are clearly a number of people on this list

Re: run file suddenly disappear!!

2000-11-20 Thread Paul Jarc
Mate Wierdl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 01:58:13PM +0800, Eric Yu wrote: the log directory for qmail-smtpd is /var/log/qmail/smtpd Yes, but the logdir for qmail-send is /var/log/qmail !! But this should not cause problems. multilog (running in /var/log/qmail) won't

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread Paul Jarc
Adam McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe he'd think about changing dist.html. After he changed it, could I then continue distributing this package without fear of being sued? If the new dist.html said no, then it would seem clear that you couldn't. This is not an ambiguity in the

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-20 Thread Paul Jarc
"Michael T. Babcock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Jarc wrote: The GPL doesn't give you permission to get a copy of Emacs; it only specifies what you can do once you have. For a lot of people, being able to obtain said software isn't the problem -- its the right to use it i

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-21 Thread Paul Jarc
"Michael T. Babcock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since the author gives no implicit license, we all come down to IANAL legal battles over what is implied by his other writings. A license would clear (most of) this up -- that's the issue. A license has the potential to be just as ill-worded,

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-21 Thread Paul Jarc
"Michael T. Babcock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Jarc wrote: ... I don't see ambiguity in them [dist.html or softwarelaw.html or rights.html] ... Are you not as analytical as those who criticise the situation? Not that I'm aware of. As I said, I think it's just that when i

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-21 Thread Paul Jarc
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 10:34:23AM -0500, Michael T. Babcock wrote: He wrote it all -- its all DJB's theories -- they may be right or wrong, but he's not a lawyer so its not even really worth trusting his theories at all. Except that ... [2] he

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-21 Thread Paul Jarc
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 05:16:17PM -0500, Paul Jarc wrote: That's true of softwarelaw.html, but this bit of the thread was about rights.html, which includes no such references. rights.html doesn't say anything about the licensing of djbdns. I know

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-21 Thread Paul Jarc
"Al" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is a question: Does anyone know if the GPL and/or BSD license has ever been challenged in court? What were the results? The GPL hasn't - so its meaning really isn't known yet - but the BSD license has. I don't remember the case, but people are still using

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-21 Thread Paul Jarc
"Michael T. Babcock" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Jarc wrote: A license has the potential to be just as ill-worded, confusing, or extremely technical as anything else. A clearly worded, easily supportable legal document would be good, regardless of whether it were a license.

Re: secrets and lies

2000-11-26 Thread Paul Jarc
Felix von Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thus spake Raul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Pulling something off of a web site involves creating a copy on your local machine. Please enlighten me: who bullshitted you Americans into believing that one needs a license to use software? Raul

Re: [o/t] email client recommendations?

2001-01-05 Thread Paul Jarc
Marc Koop writes: I was wondering if some of you could recommend a good, reliable email client that runs under X (Gnome) and supports IMAP to maildirs (qmail, of course!). A gui client would be nice, but is not necessary. What do you guys/gals use?!? I'm big into emacs, so I use Gnus for

Re: How do I use binmail (aka mail(1))

2001-01-10 Thread Paul Jarc
Medi Montaseri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My hostname is 'samba.sc.prepass.com' control/me contains mail.sc.prepass.com as mail is a CNAME to samba control/locals contain 'sc.prepass.com' and '.sc.prepass.com' I don't think locals lets you use wildcards like that. You have to list every

Re: Dot in email adress

2001-01-12 Thread Paul Jarc
"Mark Delany" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 02:31:56PM -0500, Dave Sill wrote: "David L. Nicol" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that man page [dot-qmail] says: WARNING: For security, qmail-local replaces any dots in ext with colons before checking .qmail-ext. For

Re: Dot in email adress

2001-01-12 Thread Paul Jarc
"Mark Delany" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Understand, but I can't seem to get past the OS wanting the first component to be a directory. Right, it does - or rather, *every* component, except the last. I guess if people had a .qmail directory... As I do. But is there a way without the

Re: In a perfect world

2001-01-13 Thread Paul Jarc
Felix von Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thus spake Russell Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): In a perfect world, QMTP would require that a qmtpd accept VERP-formatted envelope senders. Doesn't qmail-qmtpd accept VERPs? Yes, but it's not required by the QMTP protocol. It's just an

Re: looking for mua

2001-01-16 Thread Paul Jarc
"Robin S. Socha" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mutt is pretty nifty. Another good choice would be Gnus http://www.gnus.org/ which also supports Maildir natively if you use nnmaildir. Since Google doesn't find it, I'll say that nnmaildir lives at URL:http://multivac.cwru.edu/nnmaildir/ Otherwise,

Re: TCPSERVER logs :

2001-01-17 Thread Paul Jarc
"Alex Kramarov" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was thinking , why do alot of people here mention running tcpserver with multilog and storing it's logs apart from qmail logs: Because things work that way. This is what I use for the startup string for tcpserver /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -R -H

Re: A firestorm of protest?

2001-01-18 Thread Paul Jarc
Henning Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see exactly two patches which could be part of stock qmail: the AOL dns patch More likely, qmail will be updated to use the djbdns client library. AIUI, this would solve the 512-byte-response problem. paul

Re: maildir error

2001-01-18 Thread Paul Jarc
Durham David R CNTR AMC CSS/SAS [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /var/log/maillog says "Unable_to_open_./maildir:_is_a_directory._(#4.2.1)" You forgot the / at the end of the delivery instruction line. "./maildir" means "deliver to an mbox called ./maildir"; "./maildir/" means what you want. paul

Re: OpenBSD's MUA

2001-01-18 Thread Paul Jarc
Alex Le Fevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: since I don't even know what an MUA is, I can't tell if my OS supports it. "Mail user agent". I.e., the program you use to read your mail. It's not especially closely related to your OS. Two MUAs I know of that support maildirs are Mutt and Gnus.

Re: Svscan

2001-01-19 Thread Paul Jarc
Gavin McCord [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've created the /service directory with the necessary permissions and added on one line SV:123456:respawn:env - PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/bin svscan /service /dev/null /dev/console 2/dev/console This should all be on one line. Maybe

Re: Good MUAs

2001-01-19 Thread Paul Jarc
Alex Le Fevre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My question today comes after further reading of the included documentation. It says that Pine and Elm are both insecure and unstable, and that BSD mail is worse. However, it makes no mention of a good MUA. What would you all recommend, and where could

Re: tcpserver question (OT)

2001-01-19 Thread Paul Jarc
Mario Thaten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I depend on, are the services, that are considered internal by xinetd (daytime, time, echo, discard). It's more likely that you don't depend on them, but since they're turned on by default, you think something might break if you turn them off. But

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