Adam Glass wrote:
Hi again,
Some of the vqadmin issues mentioned here are making me a little
nervous. If you don't mind, I'd like to review my setup so far and
ask if there is anything to worry about.
The plan is to handle e-mail for three domains on the server,
accessing via IMAP and some
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> From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Eric Shubert
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:13 PM
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> Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs.
> Qmailadmin
>
> Glen Vickers wrote:
>
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Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:13 PM
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Glen Vickers wrote:
> -Original Mess
Phil Leinhauser wrote:
I sent Jake a few of my wishlist items for QControl a little while
back. I'm sure in his copious spare time he'll get to them... Right
after he's done wiping our noses.. ;)
One of the items I mentioned was the ability to give domain control to
customers without giving
Dan Page wrote:
I really like this thread, so here's my 2 cents:
I use the CLI almost exclusively. Which works for me, the mail
administrator for our domains. But I want to train a monkey (office)
manager, secretary, etc. to do the simply stuff our customers call in
for, look up passwords, a
nd
I do not think vqadmin should be used for user
>>
creation/management.
>> > Qmailadmin is plenty good
there.
>> >
>> > So multiple tools need to be
used. What would someone expect if it is
>> free?
>> >
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> > Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs.
> > Qmailadmin
> >
> > Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:
> >> Hey Jake,
> >
I have never looked deeper into the sources of vqadmin - but the problems could
result out of changed interfaces in the current CLI usage / database syntax
which is not covered by the old vqadmin version, so I guess that older versions
does not improve things.
Johannes
Am 20.05.2009 00:44, sc
So do I. I always reset passwords. Regarding the clear text password I remember
a dicussion some long time ago wherean possible authentication problem was
pointed out:
http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com/msg16852.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/qmailtoaster-list@qmai
-mail users with VQAdmin vs.
Qmailadmin
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> From: Helmut Fritz [mailto:hel...@phpwebservices.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 9:43 a.m.
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> Qmail
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> From: Helmut Fritz [mailto:hel...@phpwebservices.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 May 2009 9:43 a.m.
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> Qmailadmin
>
> I think you are
Glen Vickers wrote:
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Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:47 PM
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Qmailadmin
Glen Vickers wrote:
However
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Glen Vickers wrote:
>
> However, if I creat
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Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:
Hey Jake,
I do not think anyone on this list or using qmt does not apriciate the
work yo
Well personally, I work for a company that would not come up with the
thousands of dollars needed to purchase commercial email software.
They know the concept of " Opensource " but they misleadingly think all
open source is free.
It took me weeks of discussion ( some time ago ) to just try and get
plenty good there.
So multiple tools need to be used. What would someone expect if it is free?
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From: Jake Vickers [mailto:j...@qmailtoaster.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 2:05 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
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Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:
Hey Jake,
I do not think anyone on this list or using qmt does not apriciate the
work you did and are doing..
For me it really is not about the 30$, just never needed an interface,
guess I should check qcontrol maybe it will help me alot :)
Anyways, as said in
Hey Jake,
I do not think anyone on this list or using qmt does not apriciate the
work you did and are doing..
For me it really is not about the 30$, just never needed an interface,
guess I should check qcontrol maybe it will help me alot :)
Anyways, as said in an other mail I am just trying
Phil Leinhauser wrote:
Everyone seems to think Qcontrol or VQadmin are the only ways to get
domains into QMT. I personally use webmin. In the command line
section I have the history of commands run and I queue up a past
domain add, modify it for the new domain and kick it off.
Qcontrol does
Not sure if it's the same problem you have or not. I recall
something about when you create a domain, then a user, the mailbox limit
is some real strange number. Also, the only way to remove the domain
was to go into the database and delete the rows from that domain. If
you tried to delete it
I do the same, cli domains and qmailadmin for users.
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Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:46 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
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Jim Shupert wrote:
I might think that vqadmin - even hobbled is getting a bum rap.
I use CLI for domain creation .
but have used vqadmin to add users and forwards ...i have not had a
problem.
The upside of this , for me anyway , is domain creation happens seldom
and usr change happens more
So it is not really vqadmin, rather the cli tools?
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From: Jean-Paul van de Plasse [mailto:jeanp...@i-serve.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 12:44 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs.
Qmailadmin
Not
Not to be stubborn.. just trying to help out as I did frequently on
this list a year or so ago..
Just added and removed some domains/users, mostly it just calls the
command line, and also it has the same bug in regards to dir_control,
the cur_users field goes whack if you delete a user.
Wel
I've been burned by database corruption from VQadmin too many times.
The only thing I use it for now is password lookup and QC does that.
VQadmin is a look, don't touch thing as far as I'm concerned.
> I might think that vqadmin - even hobbled is getting a bum rap.
> I use CLI for domain crea
I might think that vqadmin - even hobbled is getting a bum rap.
I use CLI for domain creation .
but have used vqadmin to add users and forwards ...i have not had a problem.
The upside of this , for me anyway , is domain creation happens seldom
and usr change happens more often.
-
Plasse [mailto:jeanp...@i-serve.nl]
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qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
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Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs.
> Qmailadmin
>
>
> Hi,
>
> If some people would make a
list of the most important bu
Glen Vickers wrote:
However, if I create them using the
command line interface and watch for the little tweaky stuff (EG. I now have
to reboot once a week to prevent spamdyke going into a greylist deny loop)
it works fine.
I'm curious to know more about this problem, Glen. Spamdyke has work
GmbH [mailto:off...@weberhofer.at]
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I have never experienced any problems with QmailAdmin...
Johannes
Am 19.05.2009 20:29, schrieb Glen Vickers
I have never experienced any problems with QmailAdmin...
Johannes
Am 19.05.2009 20:29, schrieb Glen Vickers:
I stay the hell away from VQAdmin and QmailAdmin and their interfaces.
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Not really a bug I guess..
JP
On 19 mei 2009, at 20:07, Adam Glass wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Jean-Paul van de Plasse > wrote
com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs.
Qmailadmin
Phil,
I agree to that points, too.
Johannes
Am 19.05.2009 19:34, schrieb Phil Leinhauser:
> I would normally agree with you Steve but this is a bit different.
>
> For the home users with one domain, QControl
Thanks for the input, Adam.
Adam Glass wrote:
Hi all,
Although I am new to this list, I have been running a Linux user group
for over a decade, and have done software development that dealt with
Open Source. Perhaps another perspective could be useful.
It is sad but true that nobody wants
Yea I know where the bugs are.. a little mixup..
And I never needed vqadmin for anything..
But I guess it could be usefull to some..
On 19 mei 2009, at 20:12, Eric Shubert wrote:
The bugs are in vqadmin, not qmailadmin. qmailadmin works fine.
You're wise (or lucky?) to not use vqadmin for anyth
The bugs are in vqadmin, not qmailadmin. qmailadmin works fine.
You're wise (or lucky?) to not use vqadmin for anything but inquiries.
Jean-Paul van de Plasse wrote:
Hi,
If some people would make a list of the most important bugs in
qmailadmin I am sure they can be fixed..
I never use vqadmin,
-serve.nl]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Creating e-mail users with VQAdmin vs.
Qmailadmin
Hi,
If some people would make a list of the most important bugs in qmailadmin I
am sure they can be fixed..
I never use vqadmin, so
haha :)
On 19 mei 2009, at 20:07, Adam Glass wrote:
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Jean-Paul van de Plasse > wrote:
Hi,
If some people would make a list of the most important bugs in
qmailadmin I am sure they can be fixed..
My vote: It is not possible to create an e-mail account when th
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Jean-Paul van de Plasse <
jeanp...@i-serve.nl> wrote:
> Hi,
> If some people would make a list of the most important bugs in qmailadmin I
> am sure they can be fixed..
>
My vote: It is not possible to create an e-mail account when the username
is two characters
Hi,
If some people would make a list of the most important bugs in
qmailadmin I am sure they can be fixed..
I never use vqadmin, so I have no clue about what works or not, but I
am capable of fixing it.
JP
On 19 mei 2009, at 19:56, Adam Glass wrote:
Hi all,
Although I am new to this lis
Hi all,
Although I am new to this list, I have been running a Linux user group for
over a decade, and have done software development that dealt with Open
Source. Perhaps another perspective could be useful.
It is sad but true that nobody wants to pay for software. No matter how
much we understa
Phil,
I agree to that points, too.
Johannes
Am 19.05.2009 19:34, schrieb Phil Leinhauser:
I would normally agree with you Steve but this is a bit different.
For the home users with one domain, QControl is free. For anyone running
more than one domain we are most likely running commercially. Q
I would normally agree with you Steve but this is a bit different.
For the home users with one domain, QControl is free. For
anyone running more than one domain we are most likely running
commercially. QMT and MOST of the accessories are free and the
service in this forum is better than most p
On May 19, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Eric Shubert wrote:
Once again, I'd like to recommend that vqadmin be dropped from QMT.
The problems it has appear to outweigh the benefits it provides,
especially now that qcontrol is available.
Does anyone have any objections to this? I think it deserves som
Even though I'm on the user side rather than the developer side, I tend to
agree. There seems to always be a few questions a month from someone
new who tried to use VQadmin with bad results. It seems to be more
trouble that good.
I guess there should be a poll? Who
uses VQadmin for anything t
I agree to 100%. Additionally I recommend to drop the zlib package: The package
is several years old - old systems which are still running should already be
updated, new ones are on a much newer state.
Jake, in case you like, you could also create a "Deprecated Packages" section
where those pa
Jake Vickers wrote:
Adam Glass wrote:
Hello,
This question is really for information and curiosity, not to solve a
problem: Since it is possible to create e-mail accounts via
qmailadmin and via vqadmin, is it better to create them with one tool
vs. the other? Do they both end up calling va
Qmailadmin can't create the domains. You'll have to do that in CLI
or QControl first. Once done, qmailadmin does everything you need
inside the domain.
I highly recommend QControl. If
for nothing else, the easily viewed logs and stats.
-Phil
> Adam Glass wrote:
>> Understood. Is there an
Adam Glass wrote:
Understood. Is there any reason one would create domains or users
with qmailadmin?
With qmailadmin? You can create users and it works correctly to do so.
It's how most of my users manage their domains.
You just need to use the CLI to create the domains initially (or
QCont
Understood. Is there any reason one would create domains or users with
qmailadmin?
--Adam
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Jake Vickers wrote:
> Adam Glass wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> This question is really for information and curiosity, not to solve a
>> problem: Since it is possible to creat
Adam Glass wrote:
Hello,
This question is really for information and curiosity, not to solve a
problem: Since it is possible to create e-mail accounts via
qmailadmin and via vqadmin, is it better to create them with one tool
vs. the other? Do they both end up calling vadduser, and in the sa
Hello,
This question is really for information and curiosity, not to solve a
problem: Since it is possible to create e-mail accounts via qmailadmin and
via vqadmin, is it better to create them with one tool vs. the other? Do
they both end up calling vadduser, and in the same way? If one wants I
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