Hi All,
thought I needed to supply an update.
Monday last week I put the EBay head into Evenden Engineering Nr
Maidstone, for refurbishment.
Collected the head on Saturday morning and refitted, same timing setup
as before and the car started first time, let the ECU learn the engine
and took it
Glad to hear that good news - hopefully you can now enjoy the car for
a while.
Bob
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From: trevor.2.critten...@gsk.com
Date: 27/09/2010 10:44
To: Quantum Owners Groupquantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subj: [Quantum Owners] Re: H4 not starting (again)
Hi All,
thought I
Hi Gary,
Yes plug gaps 1mm double checked the TDC with the old method i.e.
screwdriver down the plug hole and checked it against the mark on the
sump.
Everything is timed correctly.
Thanks for the tuppence I shall spend it wisely
Trevor
On 17 Sep, 20:24, Gary gary_brokensh...@blueyonder.co.uk
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the reply, I will check out the Ebay head or get someone to
check and skim if required but its just frustrating.
The original head was just sitting there all shiney and now I may have
to change it out again.
Thanks
Trevor
On 17 Sep, 12:14, bobbycrai...@tiscali.co.uk
hi trevor are you taking the cams out to do compression test ?
you should do the test with the cams in as it will tell you every
thing is set up right ?
On 17 Sep, 10:35, Critter trevor.2.critten...@gsk.com wrote:
Hi All,
I started a thread back in December 2009 with regards to my H4 not
Hi Mark,
yes, I was going to take out the cams and try another compression test
just to try and dismiss the theory about the valves letting by.
I have retimed or rechecked the cam timing a number of times.
thanks
Trevor
On 17 Sep, 13:11, markymark markhax...@hotmail.com wrote:
hi trevor are
Hi Jim,
I think the thread continued onto another page.
I replaced the fuel regulator and was getting fuel out the return
pipe.
When I installed the EBay engine the connectors for the fuel hoses
were slightly different ( I believe the EBay engine is an earlier
one?) so I had to install the
I doubt the engine will turn over without the cams in as all the
valves will be shut.
If it does the pistons will be trying to suck and then push the volume
of the air in the cylinders past the piston rings.
This could very well damage them, i don't recommend this at all.
The only test you
Sanity comes in a flash when someone else points points out your
foolishness.
Yes of course that makes sense.
I dont have access to one of those compression testers, so I think I
need to get the Ebay head checked and the original head kicked.
Many Thanks
Trevor
On 17 Sep, 14:05, Jim Hearne
Are you 100% certain you are getting the timing right ?
If you have fuel, a spark and compression then the only thing left is
that the timing is wrong.
Are you using proper timing tools to set the crank and cam positions ?
It's easy to get the cams 180 degrees out otherwise
I can't think of
Hi Jim,
100% percent is a lot !
I am using a 5mm bar to lock the camshafts and then aligning the crank
pulley second slot with the ridge on the crank case. Is that not all
I need to do ??
Now you have me wondering ?
Please tell me I'm wrong
Thanks
Trevor
On 17 Sep, 14:12, Jim Hearne
Thats correct as long as the 5mm bar is flat on the surface of the end
of the head.
If it's 180 degrees out it's out it's below the surface so unless you
only have a small bit of bar you won't be able to do that.
I'm sure the second notch is correct, i've not used it for a long time,
when i
Darn,
Just for piece of mind I think I will try to do the timeing again,
just to be sure.
I will even use the screwdriver down the plug hole just to confirm
TDC.
Failing that the head will come off and be swopped again.
I was really just getting to like driving the car making a few notes
of
Hi Matt,
Hopefully it looks like the snow is thawing and I've got a few days
off over crimble so I can get to the bottom of the mystery.
Thanks
Trevor
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Had the fuel evaporated from the cylinder before you tried this time ?
You were getting no fuel from the return which is definatly a problem
and can't be caused electrically.
If the cylinders were still filling up with the injectors unplugged then
it can't really be an electrical fault.
Did
Hi Jim,
Yes, made sure the bores were free of fuel, I turned it over with no
plugs in and even ignited the residue with a gas ring lighter No1
actually burned for about a minute or more, very illuminating!! and
I've still got my eyebrows!.
The fuel rail does have a valve at the end I will try to
You can use a normal type pressure gauge on the valve, even the old
sliding sort.
Just be prepared for a bit of fuel escaping when you push it on.
They might have removed the fuel rail when the head was removed but no
reason to remove the injectors from the rail.
Jim
Critter wrote:
Hi Jim,
Ok,
Thought I should give you a further update.
The fuel lines are correct i.e. the feed is the feed and the return is
the return.
with the injectors unplugged electrically and the engine turned over I
still get fuel in the bores but perhaps not so much.
I removed the return fuel pipe off the
It certainly sounds like the pressure regulator.
They are usually a right pain to get out, a bit of WD40 sprayed around
it will help.
Make sure you get new O rings (there are 2) with the new reg and use a
bit of fuel or a tiny bit of silicone grease (probably shouldn't if you
have a Cat on the
Oh, yes to changing the oil and filter, i'd probably poor a bit of oil
into the bores at this stage as well.
Jim
Critter wrote:
Ok,
Thought I should give you a further update.
The fuel lines are correct i.e. the feed is the feed and the return is
the return.
with the injectors unplugged
Thanks Jim,
Already got the regulator out, I always think its the best way of
gauranteeing that you've got the right replacement, and yes it was
tight the appliance of a pair of grips got it moving.
Good idea about oiling the bores.
Trevor
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Thanks Jim,
Thats what I thought, I will try out your suggestions and report back,
I was going to take off the feed pipe and shoot some fuel into a
container as well just to prove to myself that the flow is the flow
etc.
Many Thanks
Trevor
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Have you got a schrader valve on the fuel rail? If so use an old tyre
guage, should be 2.5 - 3 bar.
My zetec has the fuel in on the right and pressure reg and return on
the left. (as sat in the car)
Matthew
On 2 Dec 2009, at 08:15, Critter trevor.2.critten...@gsk.com wrote:
Hi all,
My right and left were looking at the engine. :-)
Jim
Matthew Wastell wrote:
Have you got a schrader valve on the fuel rail? If so use an old tyre
guage, should be 2.5 - 3 bar.
My zetec has the fuel in on the right and pressure reg and return on
the left. (as sat in the car)
You can see the engine from the drivers seat if the bonnet is up, so I'm
assuming you mean from the front of the car :P
Regards,
Steve
On Wednesday 02 Dec 2009, Jim Hearne wrote:
My right and left were looking at the engine. :-)
Jim
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Not easily on an H4.
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Steve Kodz wrote:
You can see the engine from the drivers seat if the bonnet is up, so I'm
assuming you mean from the front of the car :P
Regards,
Steve
On Wednesday 02 Dec 2009, Jim Hearne wrote:
My right and left were looking at the engine. :-)
Jim
Ok Guys,
I'm going to stand at the front of the car, and look at the engine
from there, its going to be easier to reach as well ;-)
Thanks to all for the thoughts and suggestions
Watch this space
Trevor
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this issue and the plugs fire on both strokes.
Hamish
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*Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2009 4:21 PM
*Subject:* [Quantum Owners] Re: H4
On 30 Nov, 16:21, Critter trevor.2.critten...@gsk.com wrote:
Hi Hamish,
a..The crankshaft sensor I haven't checked yet as I assumed (wrongly)
that this produced the spark and the camshaft sensor triggered the
injectors. So I will check this.
If the crankshaft sensor's not working then I
On 30 Nov, 10:41, Critter trevor.2.critten...@gsk.com wrote:
Hi All,
This is my first post on this forum guys so be gentle.
Hi Trevor, welcome to the group. We don't bite, honestly well,
maybe not too often ;-)
I have recently purchased a H4 with a 1.8 Zetec engine and although
the
Hi Pete,
So far so good not been bitten yet ;-)
Both you and Hamish have suggested the coil pack, the spark looks good
but i will try borrowing the coil pack from my escort.
the Earth connection looks but I will double check when I get home.
cheers once again
Trevor
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Hi Hamish,
I was working along the lines that something had been either damaged
or not connected properly after the head was put back on so hopefully
the loom hasn't been damaged (fingers crossed)
a..The crankshaft sensor I haven't checked yet as I assumed (wrongly)
that this produced the spark
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