Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt

[Nigel Plant]

No not done it yet. Started the job, but first checked alternator with fan
belt off. Lo and behold noise was alternator bearings, had a spare from the
Xtreme so fitted that. So can belt and water pump waiting to be done.
Thanks for all the inputs.
Nigel

On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, 11:49 Jim Hearne,  wrote:

> Hi Martin,
> If you loosen the nut A and the matching one on the other side of the
> mounting.
> And then push a wedge shaped bit of wood in the gap B between the mounting
> and it’s bracket.
> You should find you can push the engine across in the engine bay just
> enough to get the pulley off without lowering the engine.
>
> It’s always worked for me on the 2+2.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> *From:* 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 11, 2018 11:36 AM
> *To:* Quantum Owners Group
> *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt
>
> Hi Nigel.  You have probably done the job now, I was doing something
> similar at about the same time.  My 2+2 has the 1.6 CVH engine on which the
> camshaft oil seal popped out, that was a load of oil dumped on the roads
> between Uxbridge and Langley - one hell of a mess in the car park.  While I
> was at it, I decided to change the cam belt and that is where the real
> challenge started - very limited clearance.  Top cam belt cover came off no
> problem but the lower one needed the crankshaft pulley removed - not enough
> room to get it out.  After lots of foul language and thumping around, the
> solution was to remove the front engine mount only and lower the engine
> enough to clear the subframe - at its lowest point, there was just enough
> room to remove the pulley - less than 1mm.  I found that I was raising and
> lowering the engine many times to get "comfortable access" to the areas
> needed.  Picture below shows the challenge.
>
> Martin
>
> On Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:26:38 UTC+1, Nigel Plant wrote:
>>
>> Thanks everyone. Have the belt and pump, so job for the weekend.
>> Nigel
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Alloy wheels

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Martin,
I have the same weels but in 14” 
On the inside of the wheels you should have a black plastic ring. 
If you lose it – as I did many years ago – the weels will not sit exactly 
in the middle of the hub/drum and it will wobble.
It sometimes sticks to the hub/drum. take a good look.
These black plastic rings were/are no longer available – I got a pair of pink 
replacements. not the correct size but it works if you put that ring on a rear 
wheel.
TSW wheels as far as I can Remember.
I have to go through a pile of papers if you want more info.
Hans
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Datum : 11/07/2018 13:29
Aan : quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp : [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Alloy wheels
 Afternoon folks. I am a new contributor here so please be patient with me!  I 
have had a 2+2 (No. 340) for the last 15 years which has been used fairly 
regularly (on and off) for most of that time, but only now am I beginning to 
give it a little overdue TLC. The last month has seen camshaft oil seal, cam 
belt, front discs and pads, general fittings and fixings and reattachment of 
pipes under the car.
 
  I am frustrated by the wheels though. They were on the car when I got it 
(really? Doh!) and one of the hub covers is odd, another missing.  I have seen 
other 2+2s sporting very similar, if not the same, wheels but I cannot find out 
where they came from or who made them.  The only identifier on the rim is KBA 
44044 and searches do not seem to bring up anything meaningful. I am wondering 
if this is an old Ford wheel.
 
 
  I have long suffered wheel wobble at about 60 mph and two tyre shops told me 
they couldn't balance the wheels, which I thought strange.  Perhaps they didn't 
like my haircut. I am considering spending a load of cash I haven't got on new 
wheels and tyres that I might not need. I am lucky to have access to the motor 
vehicle workshops at the college I work at and was given a very quick lesson in 
wheel balancing yesterday (10/07).  Suffice to say and miraculously, no 
wobbles. I can even get the car on a rolling roadnow  to tune it up - without 
the car jumping off which happened before.
 
 
  So, attached is a picture of the wheels in question with the correct centre 
cover in place. Does anyone have spare covers or know where I might be able to 
get some?
 
 
  
 
 
  Thanks.
 
 
  Martin
 
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

[Jim Hearne]

I’ve done that as well on my 2+2 and saloon.

Jim


From: Susan and Martin Scott 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:48 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

As Jim says re wheel bolts. An alternative (which I used) is to get the hubs 
machined to remove the threads/make the holes slightly larger and fit wheel 
studs (ISTR they were Focus ones) of the correct length, and then use the 
correct nuts for the new alloy wheels. I think mine wheels (1999 Fiesta) were 
ET 39, and the 'danger' zone is the clearance at the trailing arms on the rear 
suspension (and sideways movement cause by the panhard rod)
Martin Scott
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Hearne 
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

  The 5.5J and 6J are the width of the wheel rim in inches.
  You also need to look at the ET, the offset.   
  Ford standard for the Mk2 Fiesta is ET35, you can vary it a bit though.
  But the wider you go on the rims the more important the actual offset becomes.

  Make sure the new rims are specifically for the Mk1/Mk2 Fiesta, after that 
Ford switched from wheel bolts to wheel nuts.
  The bolts had a smaller seat size so if you use the later wheels with the 
earlier bolts there is hardly anything holding the wheels on and the bolts can 
pull through the wheels.
  You can get round this by using special larger bolts or adaptor washers that 
fit under the existing bolts.



  From: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:03 PM
  To: Quantum Owners Group 
  Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

Grateful for the comments left, I forgot to say that the rims are 13" 
diameter currently fitted with 165x70x13 tyres (not one of which is the same as 
the others).

  I've been looking at WheelBase for alternatives.  Not sure what 5.5J and 6J 
means but if I do replace the wheels I think it will be with 14" rims and 
185x55x14 tyres, they should fit within the wheel arches and not foul 
suspension struts or body.

Thanks for your help!
Martin
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

[Susan and Martin Scott]

As Jim says re wheel bolts. An alternative (which I used) is to get the hubs 
machined to remove the threads/make the holes slightly larger and fit wheel 
studs (ISTR they were Focus ones) of the correct length, and then use the 
correct nuts for the new alloy wheels. I think mine wheels (1999 Fiesta) were 
ET 39, and the 'danger' zone is the clearance at the trailing arms on the rear 
suspension (and sideways movement cause by the panhard rod)
Martin Scott
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Hearne 
  To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels


  The 5.5J and 6J are the width of the wheel rim in inches.
  You also need to look at the ET, the offset.   
  Ford standard for the Mk2 Fiesta is ET35, you can vary it a bit though.
  But the wider you go on the rims the more important the actual offset becomes.

  Make sure the new rims are specifically for the Mk1/Mk2 Fiesta, after that 
Ford switched from wheel bolts to wheel nuts.
  The bolts had a smaller seat size so if you use the later wheels with the 
earlier bolts there is hardly anything holding the wheels on and the bolts can 
pull through the wheels.
  You can get round this by using special larger bolts or adaptor washers that 
fit under the existing bolts.



  From: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:03 PM
  To: Quantum Owners Group 
  Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

Grateful for the comments left, I forgot to say that the rims are 13" 
diameter currently fitted with 165x70x13 tyres (not one of which is the same as 
the others).

  I've been looking at WheelBase for alternatives.  Not sure what 5.5J and 6J 
means but if I do replace the wheels I think it will be with 14" rims and 
185x55x14 tyres, they should fit within the wheel arches and not foul 
suspension struts or body.

Thanks for your help!
Martin
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Alloy wheels

[robmirach]

We may have some of these wheels .we have a car in the paintshop that i think 
is fitted with these and we have new wheels for it .we should have it back in 
next week .


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From: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
 
Date: 11/07/2018  12:29  (GMT+00:00) 
To: Quantum Owners Group  
Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Alloy wheels 

Afternoon folks. I am a new contributor here so please be patient with me!  I 
have had a 2+2 (No. 340) for the last 15 years which has been used fairly 
regularly (on and off) for most of that time, but only now am I beginning to 
give it a little overdue TLC. The last month has seen camshaft oil seal, cam 
belt, front discs and pads, general fittings and fixings and reattachment of 
pipes under the car.I am frustrated by the wheels though. They were on the car 
when I got it (really? Doh!) and one of the hub covers is odd, another missing. 
 I have seen other 2+2s sporting very similar, if not the same, wheels but I 
cannot find out where they came from or who made them.  The only identifier on 
the rim is KBA 44044 and searches do not seem to bring up anything meaningful. 
I am wondering if this is an old Ford wheel.I have long suffered wheel wobble 
at about 60 mph and two tyre shops told me they couldn't balance the wheels, 
which I thought strange.  Perhaps they didn't like my haircut. I am considering 
spending a load of cash I haven't got on new wheels and tyres that I might not 
need. I am lucky to have access to the motor vehicle workshops at the college I 
work at and was given a very quick lesson in wheel balancing yesterday (10/07). 
 Suffice to say and miraculously, no wobbles. I can even get the car on a 
rolling roadnow  to tune it up - without the car jumping off which happened 
before.So, attached is a picture of the wheels in question with the correct 
centre cover in place. Does anyone have spare covers or know where I might be 
able to get some?
Thanks.Martin



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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

[Jim Hearne]

The 5.5J and 6J are the width of the wheel rim in inches.
You also need to look at the ET, the offset.   
Ford standard for the Mk2 Fiesta is ET35, you can vary it a bit though.
But the wider you go on the rims the more important the actual offset becomes.

Make sure the new rims are specifically for the Mk1/Mk2 Fiesta, after that Ford 
switched from wheel bolts to wheel nuts.
The bolts had a smaller seat size so if you use the later wheels with the 
earlier bolts there is hardly anything holding the wheels on and the bolts can 
pull through the wheels.
You can get round this by using special larger bolts or adaptor washers that 
fit under the existing bolts.



From: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:03 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

  Grateful for the comments left, I forgot to say that the rims are 13" 
diameter currently fitted with 165x70x13 tyres (not one of which is the same as 
the others).

I've been looking at WheelBase for alternatives.  Not sure what 5.5J and 6J 
means but if I do replace the wheels I think it will be with 14" rims and 
185x55x14 tyres, they should fit within the wheel arches and not foul 
suspension struts or body.

  Thanks for your help!
  Martin
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Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

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5.5 and 6 are the width of the wheel  J is the code for the shape of the cross 
section of the wheel rim , when you take the tyre off there is a wide channel 
round the wheel to make fitting the tire easier j tells you the shape .

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From: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 1:03:41 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

Grateful for the comments left, I forgot to say that the rims are 13" diameter 
currently fitted with 165x70x13 tyres (not one of which is the same as the 
others).

I've been looking at WheelBase for alternatives.  Not sure what 5.5J and 6J 
means but if I do replace the wheels I think it will be with 14" rims and 
185x55x14 tyres, they should fit within the wheel arches and not foul 
suspension struts or body.

Thanks for your help!
Martin

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[Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

['Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group]

>
> Grateful for the comments left, I forgot to say that the rims are 13" 
> diameter currently fitted with 165x70x13 tyres (not one of which is the 
> same as the others).
>

I've been looking at WheelBase for alternatives.  Not sure what 5.5J and 6J 
means but if I do replace the wheels I think it will be with 14" rims and 
185x55x14 tyres, they should fit within the wheel arches and not foul 
suspension struts or body.

Thanks for your help!
> Martin
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Alloy wheels

[Jim Hearne]

Very similar but the wheels Martin has seem to be more angular where the spokes 
meet the rim.

Jim


From: Tom Walker 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 12:38 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Alloy wheels

TSW stealth?

On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, 12:30 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group, 
 wrote:

  Afternoon folks. I am a new contributor here so please be patient with me!  I 
have had a 2+2 (No. 340) for the last 15 years which has been used fairly 
regularly (on and off) for most of that time, but only now am I beginning to 
give it a little overdue TLC. The last month has seen camshaft oil seal, cam 
belt, front discs and pads, general fittings and fixings and reattachment of 
pipes under the car. 
  I am frustrated by the wheels though. They were on the car when I got it 
(really? Doh!) and one of the hub covers is odd, another missing.  I have seen 
other 2+2s sporting very similar, if not the same, wheels but I cannot find out 
where they came from or who made them.  The only identifier on the rim is KBA 
44044 and searches do not seem to bring up anything meaningful. I am wondering 
if this is an old Ford wheel.
  I have long suffered wheel wobble at about 60 mph and two tyre shops told me 
they couldn't balance the wheels, which I thought strange.  Perhaps they didn't 
like my haircut. I am considering spending a load of cash I haven't got on new 
wheels and tyres that I might not need. I am lucky to have access to the motor 
vehicle workshops at the college I work at and was given a very quick lesson in 
wheel balancing yesterday (10/07).  Suffice to say and miraculously, no 
wobbles. I can even get the car on a rolling roadnow  to tune it up - without 
the car jumping off which happened before.
  So, attached is a picture of the wheels in question with the correct centre 
cover in place. Does anyone have spare covers or know where I might be able to 
get some?

  Thanks.
  Martin
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[Quantum Owners] Re: 2+2 Alloy wheels

['Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group]

Thanks Jim.

No other numbers or markings on the wheels themselves.  Profile of the rims 
is fine, nice and flat inside and evidence of previous weights being 
fitted. The profile was one of the default settings on the machine I used 
to balance them - showing me where to place the new weights on inside and 
outside of the rim.

You are right.  It must have been the haircut.  

Martin

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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Alloy wheels

[Jim Hearne]

Ah sorry, looks like KBA is a German approval code.

Jim


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Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 12:43 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Alloy wheels

Google found this site https://brock.de/en/abe-number-search/
They have very similar part numbers, maybe a older wheel they did ?
Check the rear of the wheel for part numbers as well.

Jim


From: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 12:29 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Alloy wheels

Afternoon folks. I am a new contributor here so please be patient with me!  I 
have had a 2+2 (No. 340) for the last 15 years which has been used fairly 
regularly (on and off) for most of that time, but only now am I beginning to 
give it a little overdue TLC. The last month has seen camshaft oil seal, cam 
belt, front discs and pads, general fittings and fixings and reattachment of 
pipes under the car. 
I am frustrated by the wheels though. They were on the car when I got it 
(really? Doh!) and one of the hub covers is odd, another missing.  I have seen 
other 2+2s sporting very similar, if not the same, wheels but I cannot find out 
where they came from or who made them.  The only identifier on the rim is KBA 
44044 and searches do not seem to bring up anything meaningful. I am wondering 
if this is an old Ford wheel.
I have long suffered wheel wobble at about 60 mph and two tyre shops told me 
they couldn't balance the wheels, which I thought strange.  Perhaps they didn't 
like my haircut. I am considering spending a load of cash I haven't got on new 
wheels and tyres that I might not need. I am lucky to have access to the motor 
vehicle workshops at the college I work at and was given a very quick lesson in 
wheel balancing yesterday (10/07).  Suffice to say and miraculously, no 
wobbles. I can even get the car on a rolling roadnow  to tune it up - without 
the car jumping off which happened before.
So, attached is a picture of the wheels in question with the correct centre 
cover in place. Does anyone have spare covers or know where I might be able to 
get some?

Thanks.
Martin
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Alloy wheels

[Jim Hearne]

Google found this site https://brock.de/en/abe-number-search/
They have very similar part numbers, maybe a older wheel they did ?
Check the rear of the wheel for part numbers as well.

Jim


From: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 12:29 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Alloy wheels

Afternoon folks. I am a new contributor here so please be patient with me!  I 
have had a 2+2 (No. 340) for the last 15 years which has been used fairly 
regularly (on and off) for most of that time, but only now am I beginning to 
give it a little overdue TLC. The last month has seen camshaft oil seal, cam 
belt, front discs and pads, general fittings and fixings and reattachment of 
pipes under the car. 
I am frustrated by the wheels though. They were on the car when I got it 
(really? Doh!) and one of the hub covers is odd, another missing.  I have seen 
other 2+2s sporting very similar, if not the same, wheels but I cannot find out 
where they came from or who made them.  The only identifier on the rim is KBA 
44044 and searches do not seem to bring up anything meaningful. I am wondering 
if this is an old Ford wheel.
I have long suffered wheel wobble at about 60 mph and two tyre shops told me 
they couldn't balance the wheels, which I thought strange.  Perhaps they didn't 
like my haircut. I am considering spending a load of cash I haven't got on new 
wheels and tyres that I might not need. I am lucky to have access to the motor 
vehicle workshops at the college I work at and was given a very quick lesson in 
wheel balancing yesterday (10/07).  Suffice to say and miraculously, no 
wobbles. I can even get the car on a rolling roadnow  to tune it up - without 
the car jumping off which happened before.
So, attached is a picture of the wheels in question with the correct centre 
cover in place. Does anyone have spare covers or know where I might be able to 
get some?

Thanks.
Martin
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Alloy wheels

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TSW stealth?

On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, 12:30 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group, <
quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Afternoon folks. I am a new contributor here so please be patient with
> me!  I have had a 2+2 (No. 340) for the last 15 years which has been used
> fairly regularly (on and off) for most of that time, but only now am I
> beginning to give it a little overdue TLC. The last month has seen camshaft
> oil seal, cam belt, front discs and pads, general fittings and fixings and
> reattachment of pipes under the car.
> I am frustrated by the wheels though. They were on the car when I got it
> (really? Doh!) and one of the hub covers is odd, another missing.  I have
> seen other 2+2s sporting very similar, if not the same, wheels but I cannot
> find out where they came from or who made them.  The only identifier on the
> rim is KBA 44044 and searches do not seem to bring up anything meaningful.
> I am wondering if this is an old Ford wheel.
> I have long suffered wheel wobble at about 60 mph and two tyre shops told
> me they couldn't balance the wheels, which I thought strange.  Perhaps they
> didn't like my haircut. I am considering spending a load of cash I haven't
> got on new wheels and tyres that I might not need. I am lucky to have
> access to the motor vehicle workshops at the college I work at and was
> given a very quick lesson in wheel balancing yesterday (10/07).  Suffice to
> say and miraculously, no wobbles. I can even get the car on a rolling
> roadnow  to tune it up - without the car jumping off which happened before.
> So, attached is a picture of the wheels in question with the correct
> centre cover in place. Does anyone have spare covers or know where I might
> be able to get some?
>
> Thanks.
> Martin
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Alloy wheels

[Jim Hearne]

Hi Martin,
I’m pretty sure they aren’t original Ford wheels, i don’t recognise them.
If they were they would have the Ford logo and Ford part number cast into them 
somewhere.
Any more numbers under the centre cap ?
Original Quantum in Stourbridge used to sell various aftermarket wheels, i have 
some old Quantum price lists that might mention what makes they were.

One thought on the tyre shops not being able to balance them, is there no flat 
area on the inside where they could use stick on weights and maybe the rim 
profile stopped them putting on clip on weights.  
Otherwise, maybe it was your haircut 

Jim


From: 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2018 12:29 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Alloy wheels

Afternoon folks. I am a new contributor here so please be patient with me!  I 
have had a 2+2 (No. 340) for the last 15 years which has been used fairly 
regularly (on and off) for most of that time, but only now am I beginning to 
give it a little overdue TLC. The last month has seen camshaft oil seal, cam 
belt, front discs and pads, general fittings and fixings and reattachment of 
pipes under the car. 
I am frustrated by the wheels though. They were on the car when I got it 
(really? Doh!) and one of the hub covers is odd, another missing.  I have seen 
other 2+2s sporting very similar, if not the same, wheels but I cannot find out 
where they came from or who made them.  The only identifier on the rim is KBA 
44044 and searches do not seem to bring up anything meaningful. I am wondering 
if this is an old Ford wheel.
I have long suffered wheel wobble at about 60 mph and two tyre shops told me 
they couldn't balance the wheels, which I thought strange.  Perhaps they didn't 
like my haircut. I am considering spending a load of cash I haven't got on new 
wheels and tyres that I might not need. I am lucky to have access to the motor 
vehicle workshops at the college I work at and was given a very quick lesson in 
wheel balancing yesterday (10/07).  Suffice to say and miraculously, no 
wobbles. I can even get the car on a rolling roadnow  to tune it up - without 
the car jumping off which happened before.
So, attached is a picture of the wheels in question with the correct centre 
cover in place. Does anyone have spare covers or know where I might be able to 
get some?

Thanks.
Martin
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Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt

['robert greig' via Quantum Owners Group]

Yes as Martin said. Not that I've done this on mine. I think Jim Herne did it 
for me. 

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  On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 at 11:37, 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners 
Group wrote:   Hi Nigel.  You have probably 
done the job now, I was doing something similar at about the same time.  My 2+2 
has the 1.6 CVH engine on which the camshaft oil seal popped out, that was a 
load of oil dumped on the roads between Uxbridge and Langley - one hell of a 
mess in the car park.  While I was at it, I decided to change the cam belt and 
that is where the real challenge started - very limited clearance.  Top cam 
belt cover came off no problem but the lower one needed the crankshaft pulley 
removed - not enough room to get it out.  After lots of foul language and 
thumping around, the solution was to remove the front engine mount only and 
lower the engine enough to clear the subframe - at its lowest point, there was 
just enough room to remove the pulley - less than 1mm.  I found that I was 
raising and lowering the engine many times to get "comfortable access" to the 
areas needed.  Picture below shows the challenge.
Martin 

On Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:26:38 UTC+1, Nigel Plant wrote:
Thanks everyone. Have the belt and pump, so job for the weekend.
Nigel


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