Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt
No not done it yet. Started the job, but first checked alternator with fan belt off. Lo and behold noise was alternator bearings, had a spare from the Xtreme so fitted that. So can belt and water pump waiting to be done. Thanks for all the inputs. Nigel On Wed, 11 Jul 2018, 11:49 Jim Hearne, wrote: > Hi Martin, > If you loosen the nut A and the matching one on the other side of the > mounting. > And then push a wedge shaped bit of wood in the gap B between the mounting > and it’s bracket. > You should find you can push the engine across in the engine bay just > enough to get the pulley off without lowering the engine. > > It’s always worked for me on the 2+2. > > Jim > > > > *From:* 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 11, 2018 11:36 AM > *To:* Quantum Owners Group > *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt > > Hi Nigel. You have probably done the job now, I was doing something > similar at about the same time. My 2+2 has the 1.6 CVH engine on which the > camshaft oil seal popped out, that was a load of oil dumped on the roads > between Uxbridge and Langley - one hell of a mess in the car park. While I > was at it, I decided to change the cam belt and that is where the real > challenge started - very limited clearance. Top cam belt cover came off no > problem but the lower one needed the crankshaft pulley removed - not enough > room to get it out. After lots of foul language and thumping around, the > solution was to remove the front engine mount only and lower the engine > enough to clear the subframe - at its lowest point, there was just enough > room to remove the pulley - less than 1mm. I found that I was raising and > lowering the engine many times to get "comfortable access" to the areas > needed. Picture below shows the challenge. > > Martin > > On Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:26:38 UTC+1, Nigel Plant wrote: >> >> Thanks everyone. Have the belt and pump, so job for the weekend. >> Nigel > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As > Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or > in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or > alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained > within this or related message(s). > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As > Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or > in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or > alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained > within this or related message(s). > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/quantumowners/tx3QNX06vyo/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe
Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt
Yes as Martin said. Not that I've done this on mine. I think Jim Herne did it for me. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 at 11:37, 'Martin Hodnett' via Quantum Owners Group wrote: Hi Nigel. You have probably done the job now, I was doing something similar at about the same time. My 2+2 has the 1.6 CVH engine on which the camshaft oil seal popped out, that was a load of oil dumped on the roads between Uxbridge and Langley - one hell of a mess in the car park. While I was at it, I decided to change the cam belt and that is where the real challenge started - very limited clearance. Top cam belt cover came off no problem but the lower one needed the crankshaft pulley removed - not enough room to get it out. After lots of foul language and thumping around, the solution was to remove the front engine mount only and lower the engine enough to clear the subframe - at its lowest point, there was just enough room to remove the pulley - less than 1mm. I found that I was raising and lowering the engine many times to get "comfortable access" to the areas needed. Picture below shows the challenge. Martin On Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:26:38 UTC+1, Nigel Plant wrote: Thanks everyone. Have the belt and pump, so job for the weekend. Nigel -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt
Thanks everyone. Have the belt and pump, so job for the weekend. Nigel -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt
Hi Robert what news on the xtream? On Thu, 17 May 2018 at 14:35, 'robert greig' via Quantum Owners Group < quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Yes as Jim said. > I've seen it done that way on my 2+2. > > Robert Greig > > On Thursday, 17 May 2018, 08:55:35 BST, 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners > Group <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > Good info Jim. I've only worked on Carole and Geoff's 2+2 which has the > liner riveted and cut outs around the brake pipe. Quick and easy to > remove. > > Regards, > Steve > > > On 17/05/18 08:40, Jim Hearne wrote: > > I've never removed the liner as it's normally sikaflexed to the frame, > > also, i think you would have to remove the brake pipe to the front > > wheel, more hassle. > > > > Jim > > > > > > -Original Message- From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group > > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 8:35 AM > > To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt > > > > It may be quite easy to remove the wheel arch liner to gain more > > access. It is tight, but should be possible. > > > > Regards, > > Steve > > > > > > On 17/05/18 06:01, Nigel Plant wrote: > >> I need to change the timing belt and water pump - 1.6 CVH. A quick > >> question; is there enough space to the side to get the covers off and > >> do this or do I need a double jointed chimpanzee, lift the engine a > >> bit etc. I seem to remember reading that a Zetec is real tight but > >> CVH is Ok. > >> Any tips for anything out of the norm is appreciated. > >> Thanks. > >> > > > > -- > h4-turbo.co.uk > quantumowners.club > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As > Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or > in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or > alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained > within this or related message(s). > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > > IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As > Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum > Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or > in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any > person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or > alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained > within this or related message(s). > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Quantum Owners Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the
Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt
Yes as Jim said.I've seen it done that way on my 2+2. Robert Greig On Thursday, 17 May 2018, 08:55:35 BST, 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote: Good info Jim. I've only worked on Carole and Geoff's 2+2 which has the liner riveted and cut outs around the brake pipe. Quick and easy to remove. Regards, Steve On 17/05/18 08:40, Jim Hearne wrote: > I've never removed the liner as it's normally sikaflexed to the frame, > also, i think you would have to remove the brake pipe to the front > wheel, more hassle. > > Jim > > > -Original Message- From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 8:35 AM > To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt > > It may be quite easy to remove the wheel arch liner to gain more > access. It is tight, but should be possible. > > Regards, > Steve > > > On 17/05/18 06:01, Nigel Plant wrote: >> I need to change the timing belt and water pump - 1.6 CVH. A quick >> question; is there enough space to the side to get the covers off and >> do this or do I need a double jointed chimpanzee, lift the engine a >> bit etc. I seem to remember reading that a Zetec is real tight but >> CVH is Ok. >> Any tips for anything out of the norm is appreciated. >> Thanks. >> > -- h4-turbo.co.uk quantumowners.club -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt
Good info Jim. I've only worked on Carole and Geoff's 2+2 which has the liner riveted and cut outs around the brake pipe. Quick and easy to remove. Regards, Steve On 17/05/18 08:40, Jim Hearne wrote: I've never removed the liner as it's normally sikaflexed to the frame, also, i think you would have to remove the brake pipe to the front wheel, more hassle. Jim -Original Message- From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 8:35 AM To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt It may be quite easy to remove the wheel arch liner to gain more access. It is tight, but should be possible. Regards, Steve On 17/05/18 06:01, Nigel Plant wrote: I need to change the timing belt and water pump - 1.6 CVH. A quick question; is there enough space to the side to get the covers off and do this or do I need a double jointed chimpanzee, lift the engine a bit etc. I seem to remember reading that a Zetec is real tight but CVH is Ok. Any tips for anything out of the norm is appreciated. Thanks. -- h4-turbo.co.uk quantumowners.club -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt
I've never removed the liner as it's normally sikaflexed to the frame, also, i think you would have to remove the brake pipe to the front wheel, more hassle. Jim -Original Message- From: 'Steve Kodź' via Quantum Owners Group Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 8:35 AM To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt It may be quite easy to remove the wheel arch liner to gain more access. It is tight, but should be possible. Regards, Steve On 17/05/18 06:01, Nigel Plant wrote: I need to change the timing belt and water pump - 1.6 CVH. A quick question; is there enough space to the side to get the covers off and do this or do I need a double jointed chimpanzee, lift the engine a bit etc. I seem to remember reading that a Zetec is real tight but CVH is Ok. Any tips for anything out of the norm is appreciated. Thanks. -- h4-turbo.co.uk quantumowners.club -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt
Assuming you have the later 2 part belt cover (most will be) then it can be done but it's tight. You will probably need to lever the engine across slightly on it's mountings towards the gearbox side, no need to undo the mountings, just use the flex in them. I have a specially shaped bit of wood that i put in the mounting to push it across and hold it there. Jim -Original Message- From: Nigel Plant Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2018 6:01 AM To: Quantum Owners Group Subject: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt I need to change the timing belt and water pump - 1.6 CVH. A quick question; is there enough space to the side to get the covers off and do this or do I need a double jointed chimpanzee, lift the engine a bit etc. I seem to remember reading that a Zetec is real tight but CVH is Ok. Any tips for anything out of the norm is appreciated. Thanks. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt
It may be quite easy to remove the wheel arch liner to gain more access. It is tight, but should be possible. Regards, Steve On 17/05/18 06:01, Nigel Plant wrote: I need to change the timing belt and water pump - 1.6 CVH. A quick question; is there enough space to the side to get the covers off and do this or do I need a double jointed chimpanzee, lift the engine a bit etc. I seem to remember reading that a Zetec is real tight but CVH is Ok. Any tips for anything out of the norm is appreciated. Thanks. -- h4-turbo.co.uk quantumowners.club -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Quantum Owners] 2+2 Timing Belt
I need to change the timing belt and water pump - 1.6 CVH. A quick question; is there enough space to the side to get the covers off and do this or do I need a double jointed chimpanzee, lift the engine a bit etc. I seem to remember reading that a Zetec is real tight but CVH is Ok. Any tips for anything out of the norm is appreciated. Thanks. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To post to this group, send email to quantumowners@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to quantumowners-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an "As Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. Neither the Quantum Owners Club nor the individuals associated with the Quantum Owners Club or in the preparation of the above information shall have any liability to any person or entity with respect to liability, loss, or damage caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by the instructions contained within this or related message(s). --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Quantum Owners Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to quantumowners+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.