Re: [qubes-users] dispVM shuts down immediately after starting (I'm trying to run xterm)
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, October 15, 2018 5:29 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > You can add --pass-io, to see service stdout/stderr. Maybe this will > give some hints. vchan connection timeout LOL. I changed qrexec-timeout for whonix-ws-dvm to 120 (from default of 60), and that fixed it. Thanks. A bit disturbing that 60 seconds isn't enough, though. It's a reasonably modern system. Intel Core i3 (Haswell generation) with 16GB RAM, and not overloaded. (CPU and disk are idle until I start the DVM, and not too many qubes are running.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/H8gakPcWZ7TBrGWs5t2gX_9m6WZGbi9XnmvpWjnzMnHM8ITc-SIMd_j0rkEgtwP9VsIAt6a7VrFx4tMZPOUP1mgUOaSQHjCFeUP-qr-YykU%3D%40protonmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] dispVM shuts down immediately after starting (I'm trying to run xterm)
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, October 15, 2018 4:52 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > > Same result with qubes.StartApp+debian-xterm > > Per your response, I verified that whonix-ws-dvm does have > > /usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop (and whonix-ws-dvm itself > > starts and runs with no problem). > > I've tried the same command on my whonix-ws-14-dvm and it works... > Is your whonix-ws-dvm Whonix 13, or updated to Whonix 14? Whonix 14. Originally was 13 (installed with Qubes 4.0), then updated when 14 was released. I verified /etc/whonix_version in both whonix-ws and whonix-ws-dvm. They're both 14. BTW, I haven't been using disposable VMs at all for the past couple months, so I have no idea whether my problem is recent or old. In fact, the last time I did was with the Fedora DVM, and I've deleted it since then. Today was the first time I ever tried using any DVM other than Fedora. Qubes and all templates are fully updated. Is there a log somewhere? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/BwyMdQWJbx539y8b38BsOOWGP91fzLzfpgus2IrcCl6R5Nva4Gg3SzSavKx9AZ_H6fFoPXeyWdG8PdmPenM446iLiU6rx-Q9k1mwayMKMl4%3D%40protonmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] dispVM shuts down immediately after starting (I'm trying to run xterm)
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, October 15, 2018 4:52 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > > Same result with qubes.StartApp+debian-xterm > > Per your response, I verified that whonix-ws-dvm does have > > /usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop (and whonix-ws-dvm itself > > starts and runs with no problem). > > I've tried the same command on my whonix-ws-14-dvm and it works... > Is your whonix-ws-dvm Whonix 13, or updated to Whonix 14? Whonix 14. Originally was 13 (installed with Qubes 4.0), then updated when 14 was released. I verified /etc/whonix_version in both whonix-ws and whonix-ws-dvm. They're both 14. BTW, I haven't been using disposable VMs at all for the past couple months, so I have no idea whether my problem is recent or old. In fact, the last time I did was with the Fedora DVM, and I've deleted it since then. Today was the first time I ever tried using any DVM other than Fedora. Qubes and all templates are fully updated. Is there a log somewhere? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/L12HKlT8NzJAbW9X0R6BX881TfFARiB5wi8M24Dng1U2-fNJihUQWhDH9Od3BoL1f5aR0XmaCATI-BJcFpMnWP6oSZOd8DleRMu8tcb_UCU%3D%40protonmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] dispVM shuts down immediately after starting (I'm trying to run xterm)
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, October 15, 2018 3:34 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > > [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-run --verbose --autostart --dispvm=whonix-ws-dvm > > --service -- qubes.StartApp+xterm > > Running 'qubes.StartApp+xterm' on $dispvm:whonix-ws-dvm > > [user@dom0 ~]$ > > Is there a log somewhere to tell me what's going wrong? > > The +xterm part should be a base name of .desktop file in > /usr/share/applications (or other directory per XDG standard). xterm on > Debian happens to have debian-xterm.desktop, so it should be > qubes.StartApp+debian-xterm. Same result with qubes.StartApp+debian-xterm Per your response, I verified that whonix-ws-dvm does have /usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop (and whonix-ws-dvm itself starts and runs with no problem). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1YkWrPit5VaYwhB41JfX0zXdYL78wu_VH4f6ucS3TI68kkjWctOT2K5Pp4y8-FADu7_G75LmEku-FAAWqzVmo6hiJeOIOlzZru4NA8B0bLA%3D%40protonmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] dispVM shuts down immediately after starting (I'm trying to run xterm)
On Qubes 4.0, when I try to start a dispVM, I get a popup notice that it's starting, then a popup that it started, then a popup that it halted. I get no error message, even when I specify --verbose: [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-run --verbose --autostart --dispvm=whonix-ws-dvm --service -- qubes.StartApp+xterm Running 'qubes.StartApp+xterm' on $dispvm:whonix-ws-dvm [user@dom0 ~]$ Is there a log somewhere to tell me what's going wrong? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/cYnO-Vk2RuiJZhGOZg80tuu_ERnO0KGVuat06JeY2aZdUkiKGpn-Pf2ubPF3f2xcnJzar-t_qqnGyaD6M0dBmJPQo6xzcdiAyPPSk-bWwJU%3D%40protonmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Deleting app VMs in Qubes 4.0 doesn't free up disk space
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:02 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > > On further investigation, I discovered that > > /var/log/xen/xenstored-trace.log in dom0 was 155GB. > > I don't have this log on mine. Did you maybe enable it somewhere? Yes, and then I forgot to disable it when I was done with it. Then the extreme growth of the log coincidentally (!) canceled out the space freed up by deleting qubes, which accounted for the surprising behavior I was seeing. > > But qvm-pool -vi lvm still reports 99% HD usage (468GB used out of 473GB > > size for pool00)! The HD is 500GB, so trimming 80.7GiB should have freed > > 17%. > > OTOH, sudo lvs did report that pool00 data% dropped from 99 to 67, and > > meta% dropped from 55 to 39. So the problem is clearly with Qubes, not LVM. > > Have you rebooted since cleaning up? Maybe qvm-pool just hasn't caught > up yet. I noticed some hours later that qv-pool finally caught up. Don't know what triggered it (but not a reboot). Also don't know why lvs and qvm-pool should ever report different free space values, but anyway my immediate problem is solved. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/zuBknMcgNe8RRjZUeHaFZWft_6YVlFeB6KtnrMGXdeP1UqtGi9uJ4oWNKbViLaQMN_3SBbyxzplsm68nzW5Ks9bt9_7gd5gqO0WQim_i_F8%3D%40protonmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] How to see what Qubes is doing during boot?
Booting Qubes 4.0 on a five-year-old Core i3 laptop, it always sits for several minutes with a grey screen, white Q logo, and slowly advancing progress bar. Is there some textual boot report I can watch instead, to see why it takes so long? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/QDkOtIM__Fk8UwwKui7CzMYdG3NcEjvSOyxb0rmGzfY2hqNoUEgAgTcO24lhKC3VMInKpZCpnuoFWs9RWr4bQ-YTI1-1EyNEOGBCs4VIiYQ%3D%40protonmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Deleting app VMs in Qubes 4.0 doesn't free up disk space
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 6:52 AM, unman wrote: > I admire your persistence in continuing to remove qubes. > > Have you tried running 'sudo fstrim -av' in dom0? After I already trimmed / in dom0 as I mentioned (and it reported about 5GB freed), I ran sudo fstrim -av per your suggestion, and it reported 0 bytes trimmed. On further investigation, I discovered that /var/log/xen/xenstored-trace.log in dom0 was 155GB. So I did sudo truncate /var/log/xen/xenstored-trace.log --size 0 Then again sudo fstrim -av, and this time for / it reported 80.7GiB trimmed. (I don't know why not all 155GB trimmed.) But qvm-pool -vi lvm still reports 99% HD usage (468GB used out of 473GB size for pool00)! The HD is 500GB, so trimming 80.7GiB should have freed 17%. OTOH, sudo lvs did report that pool00 data% dropped from 99 to 67, and meta% dropped from 55 to 39. So the problem is clearly with Qubes, not LVM. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/Uctl60dNAdJXbXjsu9e_CZ4TGoxk3DuHN5p6EtbOqdccB2T7WwNAmf0ywtBjO79rcTBXYA7UgUTxCarucLldOW93S5zo_Gqx33PkJ3go0kw%3D%40protonmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] nftables vs iptables
On Monday, October 1, 2018 4:32 PM, Chris Laprise wrote: > I've submitted qubes-tunnel to Qubes with iptables commands only, with > the intention to transition to nftables (or that other new interface in > Linux, name escapes me just now) for Qubes 4.1. I guess you mean BPF (Berkeley Packet Filter). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/h4m5HXxy0LpeW92e2R0ZdfpFDUA04H-5J7f5E_WpUY121foawKFep0dJ6mdgOzx5jpJKHGRLnH0hGevy9hdWJjhQFCwGyuWNtfed5Vg1dsw%3D%40protonmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Deleting app VMs in Qubes 4.0 doesn't free up disk space
My hard disk was 95% full, as shown by usage/size in the output of qvm-pool -i lvm. So I decided to delete some old unneeded app qubes, each taking a few hundred MB or a few GB of space. Before deleting each one, I started it to check the contents, to verify there was nothing I needed to save. HD usage crept up a little, then a little more after I killed the qube. But surprisingly, HD usage crept up a little more after I deleted the qube, instead of decreasing! I guessed it was a fluke, so I did the same with the next qube. The same thing happened! Then again with the third and fourth qubes. At this point, my HD is 99% full. I ran fstrim / in dom0, and it reported about 5GB freed, but HD is still 99% full. I'm starting to panic, since I know Linux fails badly when an LVM pool that's over-committed with thin volumes (as Qubes 4.0 is designed) fills up. I know the qubes were deleted successfully, since lvs | grep no longer shows them. No running qubes are writing any significant data to disk. Now that I'm not deleting any more qubes, HD usage is holding steady at 99%. Why isn't my HD usage decreasing when I delete qubes? How can I free up some space? Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/vm9YVHYoyXt1OPnO_FVawYii5BuvTCngkd99DNizLqcfVa6ub_7_dZJ9FndNb9cKm1vb6bK6jAOlLh4WydV8MDQYQVnGOcI7pLs0m4o8Ba4%3D%40protonmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Help! qvm-start-gui won't restart properly, so my qube windows are invisible
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, September 24, 2018 6:03 AM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote: > All I'd know to do is reboot- don't know if there's a more elegant way. Then does Qubes have any way yet to suspend or snapshot VM state, like vmware can do? Most of my qubes won't be a problem to reboot after I reboot the system, but I have one qube in particular with running state that would be a big hassle to re-initialize if I have to reboot the qube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7N5BlhcjLTldJdHqiy6Fk2Cp6fvrlLvCts1DEs2OdAbv3LY89BawFUBo0euxwS-f6SwH4dHjBcwqE02lRS37oUmON8dhX3Rvm4cerQqktNc%3D%40protonmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Help! qvm-start-gui won't restart properly, so my qube windows are invisible
A qube window that I was using in full-screen mode died and somehow locked up the gui in dom0 (totally unresponsive to keyboard & mouse input, except that the mouse still moved the pointer), and I had to switch to a text console (ctl-alt-F2) and kill xfce to force it to log out and reset the gui. That worked, but when I logged back in, all of my qube windows (and all the dom0 windows I had open, including some terminal emulators) momentarily flashed on screen one at a time in rapid succession, then disappeared. Alt-tab doesn't show them. I can, however, start new dom0 windows, e.g. terminal emulator, qube manager, etc, and they work properly. xl list shows all my running qubes are still running, and I can access them using xl console, then within them I can use xlsclients and see that everything is still running. But if I try to create a new window, e.g. by running xterm, nothing appears. https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3147 for an unrelated issue has instructions to fix invisible windows: kill qvm-start-gui process and start it again: qvm-start-gui --all --watch & But when I do that, all my windows just flash momentarily again, and disappear, same as happened when I logged back in. Using Qubes 4.0 final release, fully updated. Please help! How can I get my windows back? Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/Fjl1AZKeU-zBDzd21-v23nM70l4T6cMT9zbSVVeMsKRC-7dpaHSjaUeKeRO_5EoBQ_Z_EqH7Csal6W2vHCX68vGFAZTnjmuVq2g-aRm46dY%3D%40protonmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.