from:"Patrick"

b...@damon.com:
> I went thru the steps to remove any existing whonix.  No errors were reported.
> Then I issued the command to re-install whonix-14.
> 
> Whonix does not work.  Whenever I boot up one of the VMs based on the new 
> whonix, I find that qrexec-agent is crashing.
> 
> [   15.903799] qrexec-agent[789]: segfault at 70d5257f6ff8 ip 
> 70d5255f3355 sp 70d5257f7000 error 6 in ld-2.24.so[70d5255dd000+23000]
> 
> This is similar to whonix-9 template issues some have seen.
> 
> 
> qubesdb-daemon also segfaults in the same manner earlier in the boot.
> 

Please report this to:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix upgrade failure

Documentation was upgraded meanwhile.

Black Beard:
> 
> Hey Community,
> 
> 
> i tried to following the tutorial to upgrade Whonix 13 to 14.
> 
> https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install
> 
> I first start to try uninstall the old Version of Whonix with Option B.
> 
> When i tried to install the dummy template with following command "sudo 
> qubes-dom0-update qubes-template-dummy" i become some error message "unable 
> to find a match".

This won't work.

Dummy template is covered in Qubes-Whonix documentation where needed.

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Reinstall

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Uninstall

> So i cant create the template and upgrade Whonix.
> 
> Can anybody says me how to update the Debian 9 Template? I found some 
> tutorials but always become an error message.
> 
> Did some profi how to fix the probleme?
> 
> About a message i would be happy.
> 
> regards
> 

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 upgraded - only a couple of mis-steps

Dave:
> Success! but not without a few snags...
> 
> Using Qube-Manager to remove templateVM resulted in:
> [Dom0] Error removing Qube! ERROR: Domain is in use: details in system log
> 
> ran QVM-LS; verified Qube state halted
> 
> found reference: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3193
> and followed instructions:
> 
> I wasn't aware of the Default-Disposable-VM setting on the Advanced tab in 
> Qube Mangager GUI
> 
> The required commands are:
> qvm-prefs --set whonix-ws-dvm netvm ""
> qvm-prefs --set whonix-ws-dvm default_dispvm ""
> qvm-remove whonix-ws-dvm
> qvm-remove sys-whonix
> 
> Took these actions:
> changed netVM's to "" in appVMs using sys-whonix
> changed templateVM in appVMs using whonix-** to other
> changed global-property-updatevm to another netVM
> 
> Again attempted: sudo qvm-remove whonix-ws
> 
> Now new err msg returned: ERROR: VM installed by package manager: whonix-ws
> but the correct command was: $ sudo dnf remove qubes-template-whonix-**
> 
> REINSTALLATION ran much smoother using 
> "The recommended approach is to use salt (wrapped by the command qubesctl in 
> Qubes), as this one call automatically:" 
> i/a/w https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install
> 
> That ran without a hitch. Then UPDATE the new templates.
> 
> sudo apt-get update (Whonix is Debian based, so dnf doesn't work)
> 
> Now to push on and upgrade Fedora 26 to 28 (starting to get this too, Wolf 
> moon)
> 

Could you please check if Qubes-Whonix wiki documentation is complete
and consider to contribute anything missing?

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes

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Re: [qubes-users] pEp in Enigmail-Thunderbird in Whonix-14 Qubes

qubes-...@tutanota.com:
> Hi, I learned that in Whonix-14 in Qubes 4.0 there is no default support for 
> pEp in Enigmail-Thunderbird. Is it Qubes specific or Whonix specific? Is 
> there any reason for not supporting pEp in Whonix? 
> 
> In other templates after installing the Enigmail addon the support for pEp 
> jumps up automatically like Enigmail/pEp.
> 
> Thank you!
> 

Whonix uses the same package as Debian. So Debian specific and Whonix
inherits this.

This sort of question has a much higher chance of getting answered
timely in Whonix forums.

Check this out:

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Encrypted_Email_with_Thunderbird_and_Enigmail

This may be useful later:

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/E-Mail#Pretty_Easy_Privacy

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - Update errors?

sm...@tutamail.com:
> ...again I want to thank the Whonix/Qubes team for everything they do!! You 
> are awesome...
> 
> In the spirit of feedback:
> 
> I just tried updating Whonix-ws-14 and started receiving errors? I saw 
> another post with similar 
> issues(https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-users/ppdbaDAavRY), I 
> thought it best to call out the specific issue in the subject so it might 
> help others with this issue:
> 
> The error I get, when using the "Qubes Manager" -> "Whonix-ws-14" -> "Update 
> qube" is:
> 
> 
> Err:20
> tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion
> stretch Release
>   Connection failed
> Reading package lists... Done
> 
> 
> E: The repository
> 'tor+http://deb.dds6qkxpwdeubwucdiaord2xgbbeyds25rbsgr73tbfpqpt4a6vjwsyd.onion
> stretch Release' does no longer have a Release file.
> 
> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is
> therefore disabled by default.
> 
> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user
> configuration details. 
> 
> Whats strange is that I tried the update again while writing this post and it 
> appeared no updates were needed
> 
> I think I am OK but wanted to share.
>
Probably transient issue.

Documented here:

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Update

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Re: [qubes-users] Cannot update whonix-gw-14

Probably transient issue.

Documented here:

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Update

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: update broke whonix, can't reinstall

Stay tuned!

Basically it's hopefully all been covered in news.

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Stay_Tuned

Qubes-Whonix documentation:

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Reinstall

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Uninstall

Ryan Tate:
> qubes-template-whonix-gw
> qubes-template-whonix-ws

This is now:

qubes-template-whonix-gw-14

qubes-template-whonix-ws-14

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Re: [qubes-users] ERROR: Tor Bootstrap Result:

William Fisher:
> Turned out to be a clock settings problem. Set the clock to UTC and poof it 
> works!
> 

Host clock or VM clock?

How did you do it?

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3.2 whonix 14 connects to tor, but there is no connection

Franz:
> I succesfully updated to whonix 14, when the VM start a message tells:
> "connected to tor" making me happy, But if I ping google I get:
> 
> user@host:~$ ping google.com
> PING google.com (216.58.207.206) 56(84) bytes of data.
>>From 10.137.5.34 (10.137.5.34) icmp_seq=1 Destination Port Unreachable
> ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted
> 
> 
> what may be wrong?
> Best
> 

ping is UDP. And Tor doesn't support UDP.

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Tor#UDP

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 3.2 whonix 14 connects to tor, but there is no connection

Franz:
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 4:47 PM pieter lems  wrote:
> 
>> is sys-net connected to the network?
>>
> 
> yes
> 
> And are you using an ethernet cable to connect to internet,
>>
> 
> no I am connected by wifi
> 

Qubes-Whonix support ending for Qubes 3.2(.1) - upgrade to Qubes R4.0 or
above required.

https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2018/10/05/whonix-support-ending-for-qubes-32/

https://forums.whonix.org/t/qubes-whonix-support-ending-for-qubes-3-2-upgrade-to-qubes-r4-0-or-above-required/6113

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Re: [qubes-users] Tor still doesn't work in the new Qubes 3.2.1

Máté Kovács:
> After I installed the new version of qubes, I tried everything today 
> afternoon to make it work but it wasn't successfull. Update every software.
> Got these error messages.

If you are talking about Whonix...

Qubes-Whonix support ending for Qubes 3.2(.1) - upgrade to Qubes R4.0 or
above required.

https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2018/10/05/whonix-support-ending-for-qubes-32/

https://forums.whonix.org/t/qubes-whonix-support-ending-for-qubes-3-2-upgrade-to-qubes-r4-0-or-above-required/6113

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[qubes-users] 2nd external monitor using usb c-type

2018-11-13 Thread Patrick

Hello,

Has anyone done that - i.e. use a 2nd external monitor using a usb c-type 
connector?

In other words, can it be available to dom0 and all domains at the same time?

Thanks,
Patrick

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Ubuntu templates

2018-10-29 Thread Patrick

On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 9:51:56 PM UTC-5, unman wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 03:23:34PM -0700, Patrick wrote:
> > On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 9:28:26 AM UTC-5, unman wrote:
> > > It's now straight forward to build templates for bionic as well as xenial,
> > > using qubes-builder.
> > > 
> > > If you want to try them out before building, I've uploaded freshly built
> > > templates for 4.0, including a fairly hefty xenial-desktop template.
> > > You can find details at https://qubes.3isec.org 
> > > 
> > > Updated packages are available from the repositories there, if you
> > > already have a working template.
> > > 
> > > unman
> > 
> > Hi, I came to find this answer too, what is the best way to install an 
> > ubuntu vm?
> > 
> > Also, just fyi, I want to run the VMware-Horizon-Client in order to run 
> > VDI. Documentation says it's tested on ubuntu and Red Hat.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Patrick
> > 
> You can build your own template using qubes-builder.
> Instructions for that are in the docs:
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/qubes-builder
> 
> Use ./setup to select the ubuntu version you want, then make qubes-vm and
> make template will produce a new template.
> Actually, the build is broken at the moment while I figure out how best
> to deal with incorporating apt-transport-https in to the build, and mix
> in security updates.
> 
> In the meantime you can download some prebuilt Ubuntu templates from
> https://qubes.3isec.org/
> 
> Whatever route you take, transfer the template to dom0 and install it
> using dnf install 
> 
> unman

Thanks Unman,

Only, what's the difference between bionic and xenial? Sorry. Anyway I'm using 
64 bit, qubes 4.0 on an Acer Aspire 5 - AS15

Thanks.

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[qubes-users] Re: A message from Marek Marczykowski-Górecki

2018-10-26 Thread Patrick

On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 9:29:05 PM UTC-5, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA512
> 
> Dear Qubes Community,
> 
> Marek Marczykowski-Górecki published the following message on the Qubes
> website today. The plain text source is included below.
> 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2018/10/25/thank-you-joanna/
> 
> ```
> Thank you, Joanna!
> ==
> 
> The Qubes OS project was [founded by Joanna Rutkowska in 2009][qubes-founded].
> I joined the project in its early days, before Qubes 1.0, and have been part 
> of
> the team under Joanna's leadership since then. Over the past nine years, the
> system architecture has been enhanced multiple times, including major changes
> like [HVM with stubdomain support][windows], the [Hypervisor Abstraction Layer
> (HAL)][HAL], and finally, in Qubes 4.0, the [Admin API][admin-api] and [switch
> to PVH][pvh] as the main VM type. The project has also matured a lot. We
> started as a set of [a few][original-packages] [manually built][build] 
> packages
> installed [on top of Fedora 12][alpha-1-install]. Now, we have a [build
> infrastructure][build-infra], documented [versioning scheme][version-scheme]
> and [release schedules][release-schedules], [coding guidelines][coding-style],
> and [automated tests][automated-tests]. The core part of Qubes has also been
> rewritten a few times since its original release.  The project's success can 
> be
> measured by its growing community, including deployments like [SecureDrop] and
> [Let's Encrypt].
> 
> Today [Joanna announced][joanna-post] that she is stepping down from the
> project's leadership role and nominating me as her successor. I have been the
> project's lead engineer for a few years now, and I'm honored to officially 
> lead
> the project as a whole. I plan to continue the direction in which Qubes OS has
> been going, providing defenses [well ahead][netvm-tweet] of new attacks.
> 
> On behalf of the whole Qubes team, I'd like to thank Joanna for all of her
> years of work on the project. Under her leadership, Qubes OS has accomplished 
> a
> lot, with only some of its many successes mentioned above. We look forward to
> continuing to benefit from her expertise as an advisor. At the same time, we
> wish her all the best in her new role on the Golem Project!
> 
> [qubes-founded]: 
> https://blog.invisiblethings.org/2010/04/07/introducing-qubes-os.html
> [HAL]: 
> https://blog.invisiblethings.org/2013/03/21/introducing-qubes-odyssey-framework.html
> [windows]: 
> https://blog.invisiblethings.org/2012/12/14/qubes-2-beta-1-with-initial-windows.html
> [admin-api]: https://blog.invisiblethings.org/2017/06/27/qubes-admin-api.html
> [mgmt-stack]: https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2015/12/14/mgmt-stack/
> [pvh]: 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2016/09/02/4-0-minimum-requirements-3-2-extended-support/
> [alpha-1-install]: 
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-doc/blob/d6639edf47a7b85e54cd470380de25e1b7403407/InstallationGuide.md
> [build]: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/qubes-devel/cQ9yVxPMfoo/CTIXml3B_NcJ
> [original-packages]: 
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-doc/blob/6ac51fb134093168ec3900c9bed22c3a86bcd021/SourceCode.md
> [build-infra]: 
> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-infrastructure/blob/master/README.md#detailed-description-of-the-infrastructure
> [release-schedules]: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/releases/schedules/
> [coding-style]: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/coding-style/
> [automated-tests]: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/automated-tests/
> [version-scheme]: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/version-scheme/
> [joanna-post]: /news/2018/10/25/the-next-chapter/
> [netvm-tweet]: https://twitter.com/rootkovska/status/530416582426902528
> [SecureDrop]: 
> https://securedrop.org/news/road-towards-integrated-securedrop-workstation/
> [Let's Encrypt]: https://twitter.com/RMLLsec16/status/749982515948027904
> ```
> 
> - -- 
> Andrew David Wong (Axon)
> Community Manager, Qubes OS
> https://www.qubes-os.org
> 
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So many thanks Joanna! Marek, sincere thanks for carrying on with the torch, I 
admire all the work!!!

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[qubes-users] Re: Ubuntu templates

2018-10-26 Thread Patrick

On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 9:28:26 AM UTC-5, unman wrote:
> It's now straight forward to build templates for bionic as well as xenial,
> using qubes-builder.
> 
> If you want to try them out before building, I've uploaded freshly built
> templates for 4.0, including a fairly hefty xenial-desktop template.
> You can find details at https://qubes.3isec.org 
> 
> Updated packages are available from the repositories there, if you
> already have a working template.
> 
> unman

Hi, I came to find this answer too, what is the best way to install an ubuntu 
vm?

Also, just fyi, I want to run the VMware-Horizon-Client in order to run VDI. 
Documentation says it's tested on ubuntu and Red Hat.

Thanks,
Patrick

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[qubes-users] Default keyring

2018-10-12 Thread Patrick

When creating a new template, then launching a browser in it (in order to 
install software), a dialog box asks:

An application wants access to the keyring "Default keyring".

Never seen this, my passwords don't work.

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[qubes-users] Re: Dom0 (System tools) shortcuts suddenly disappeared

2018-09-24 Thread Patrick

On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 10:35:14 PM UTC-6, Otto Kratik wrote:
> I am using Qubes R3.2. Suddenly almost all of the KDE shortcuts usually found 
> under applications-> system tools have completely vanished. I have no 
> konsole, file manager, system settings etc. Only four remain:
> 
> DispVM: Terminal
> DispVM: Web Browser
> Screen Capture Program
> Software Management
> 
> Everything else is gone. They were there one minute, and then gone the next. 
> I have performed Dom0 updates and rebooted afterward to see if it fixed the 
> issue, without success.
> 
> What is the recommended course of action?

Hello, on my 4.0 platform somehow I'm now missing the "Display" shortcut. I'm 
thinking I may have accidentally dragged it into the desktop and then deleted 
it. I found this thread and tried a couple things but still not there.

How can I at least manually run a command to launch the display, just to see if 
it's all there, and then how to reinstall the shortcut?

Thanks,
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Re: [qubes-users] A few tips on installing Qubes 4.0

2018-09-24 Thread Patrick

On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 10:53:12 PM UTC-5, Stuart Perkins wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 02:30:50 +
> "'William Pate' via qubes-users"  wrote:
> 
> >‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> >On Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:56 PM, Patrick  
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I had already istalled 4.0 on my laptop and decided to upgrade a workhorse 
> >> desktop running 3.0. So I just boot to a usb stick with a validated 4.0 
> >> iso. Actually, that's the first tip, make sure you're using the "dd" 
> >> option when creating the iso (like the doc says anyway). That made a big 
> >> difference in just getting the boot right.
> >>
> >> I loaded it, had issues, tweaked some things, wasted time here and there 
> >> but what what worked well was:
> >>
> >> 1 - boot to and loading a disk partioner like https://gparted.org/
> >> - then I just removed all existing partitions.
> >>
> >> 2 - booting to and load a disk wipe program like killdisk: 
> >> http://www.killdisk.com/
> >> I don't know, I felt like there was just something existing on the disk 
> >> that was causing a problem, and when I erased and wiped the drive and then 
> >> did another 4.0 install it worked perfectly, no issues at all.
> >>
> >> PS - I had issues trying to get dban working, for some reason.
> >>
> >> Hope that helps some folks.
> >>
> >> Patrick
> >>
> >>  
> >
> >
> >
> >My fresh installation of Qubes 4.0 was similarly trouble-free. I put it on a 
> >Dell Latitude E7240 laptop. It took a while. I only partitioned the disk -- 
> >now to just figure out how to extend Qubes' partition over Windows'. Oh, and 
> >more RAM would be nice. (I jumped straight from no-Linux-knowledge to Qubes. 
> >It's taking a while to learn.)
> >
> >Next up: Lenovo W520.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >William Pate
> >willp...@pm.me
> >512-947-3311
> >www.wopate.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> 
> Kinda like Ross Perot and Donald Trump's political careers...start by running 
> for President.
> 
> Just get a good grasp of the architecture of Qubes...separate programs from 
> data with templates...separate tasks with appVMs...restrict network exposure 
> to ONLY the tasks which require it...it works very well as long as you keep 
> that in mind when are working with it.

Hi Stuart, 
I like your input there, can you say a little more about it? I totally get 
separating tasks with appVMs, restricting network to each task, but say more on 
separating programs from data with templates - what are you doing in your case? 
Also, do you do some networking between the vms, etc?

In my case I'll have maybe some dev tools on a template, then maybe a couple of 
different google profiles on different vms, and of course I'll use the throw 
away browsers on any research I'm doing.

Patrick

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Re: [qubes-users] A few tips on installing Qubes 4.0

2018-09-23 Thread Patrick

On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 9:30:59 PM UTC-5, William Pate wrote:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Sunday, September 23, 2018 8:56 PM, Patrick  
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I had already istalled 4.0 on my laptop and decided to upgrade a workhorse 
> > desktop running 3.0. So I just boot to a usb stick with a validated 4.0 
> > iso. Actually, that's the first tip, make sure you're using the "dd" option 
> > when creating the iso (like the doc says anyway). That made a big 
> > difference in just getting the boot right.
> >
> > I loaded it, had issues, tweaked some things, wasted time here and there 
> > but what what worked well was:
> >
> > 1 - boot to and loading a disk partioner like https://gparted.org/
> > - then I just removed all existing partitions.
> >
> > 2 - booting to and load a disk wipe program like killdisk: 
> > http://www.killdisk.com/
> > I don't know, I felt like there was just something existing on the disk 
> > that was causing a problem, and when I erased and wiped the drive and then 
> > did another 4.0 install it worked perfectly, no issues at all.
> >
> > PS - I had issues trying to get dban working, for some reason.
> >
> > Hope that helps some folks.
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> My fresh installation of Qubes 4.0 was similarly trouble-free. I put it on a 
> Dell Latitude E7240 laptop. It took a while. I only partitioned the disk -- 
> now to just figure out how to extend Qubes' partition over Windows'. Oh, and 
> more RAM would be nice. (I jumped straight from no-Linux-knowledge to Qubes. 
> It's taking a while to learn.)
> 
> Next up: Lenovo W520.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> William Pate
> willp...@pm.me
> 512-947-3311
> www.wopate.com
> 
> 
> 
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Hey William,
Welcome to Qubes. I've been using it for 3 years now. As a former windows guy I 
can attest you WILL become more fluent in linux, but that's a good thing.

Many people here have said they use qubes for security purposes, and while 
that's true, my personal motivation is productivity. While getting to know this 
system takes a solid committment, the time invested pays off big in terms of 
working with multiple VMs at once. I love it. I'm surprised at how many people 
in Dallas I ask have no idea what it is, and I swim in AWS and Azure circles.

Hopefully it can gain some ground, while it's powerful, it needs help to make 
it easier to get into so that the masses can start to use it.

Good luck, you'll really like it.

Patrick

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[qubes-users] A few tips on installing Qubes 4.0

2018-09-23 Thread Patrick

Hi,

I had already istalled 4.0 on my laptop and decided to upgrade a workhorse 
desktop running 3.0. So I just boot to a usb stick with a validated 4.0 iso. 
Actually, that's the first tip, make sure you're using the "dd" option when 
creating the iso (like the doc says anyway). That made a big difference in just 
getting the boot right.

I loaded it, had issues, tweaked some things, wasted time here and there but 
what what worked well was:

1 - boot to and loading a disk partioner like https://gparted.org/
- then I just removed all existing partitions.

2 - booting to and load a disk wipe program like killdisk: 
http://www.killdisk.com/  
   I don't know, I felt like there was just something existing on the disk that 
was causing a problem, and when I erased and wiped the drive and then did 
another 4.0 install it worked perfectly, no issues at all.

PS - I had issues trying to get dban working, for some reason.

Hope that helps some folks.

Patrick

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[qubes-users] Qubes 4.0 install from iso

2018-09-22 Thread Patrick

Hi, now I'm trying to upgrade an HP envy desktop system from qubes 3.2 to qubes 
4.0.

The system won't get into installation execution from the usb with qubes iso 
4.0, it goes into Dracut emergency shell.

Question - how do I write the journalctl file to the usb key from the # command 
line? I can't seem to make the regular commands work.

2nd - some of the errors in the log:

ACPI error : [GPLD] Namespace lookup failure
""  : Method parse/execution failed
""  : Method parse/execution



in the x509 section...
"couldn't get size"



usb 1-9: string descriptor 0 read error: -32



kernel : sd 4:0:0:0 [add] No caching mode page found

and

kernel : sd 4:0:0:0: [add] assuming drive cache: write through


Finally: 
Dracut-initqueue569 : warning: Dracut-initqueue timeout - starting timeout 
scripts

Then it finally dies and goes to Dracut.


Why different results with 4.0 and what suggestions can be made?

Thanks,





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[qubes-users] Video Screen Capture app that works well in Qubes?

2018-09-11 Thread Patrick

Hi everyone,

I'd love to publish some things to youtube right out of a Qubes 4.0 VM. Anyone 
have a great app to recommend that you've been successful with in Qubes 4.0?

I have dual monitors, would love it even more if I can isolate the active 
capture screen.

Thanks,
Patrick

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: please stay tuned on Whonix news

2018-09-09 Thread Patrick Schleizer

John S.Recdep:
> On 08/15/2018 07:23 PM, Patrick Schleizer wrote:
>> It is important to read the latest Whonix news to stay in touch with
>> ongoing developments. This way users benefit from notifications
>> concerning important security vulnerabilities and improved releases
>> which address identified issues, like those affecting the updater or
>> other core elements.
>>
>> Read more:
>> https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Stay_Tuned
>>
> 
> did something happen?

Nothing in particular. However, Whonix 14 release and deprecation notice
was missed by most.

> by "updater"  meaning sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   ?

Yes, enable testers repository and that.

> seemed to be broken the other day, but seems ok
> don't see anything new on vuln issues
> https://forums.whonix.org/c/news
> 
> guess I can check again next month  :)
> 

RSS / e-mail or something would be better. A month is a long time. By
that time, testing may already be over.

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Re: [qubes-users] AppArmor enabled by default in templates

2018-09-09 Thread Patrick Schleizer

Chris Laprise:
> Its good (and interesting) that Whonix have persevered with apparmor.
> Yet even though Torbrowser is based on Firefox, I couldn't for example
> take a Torbrowser apparmor profile and adapt it to Firefox. Again, this
> was some time ago, but at the time it just didn't work correctly.

Why not https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Tor_Browser_without_Tor would give
better security.

https://forums.whonix.org/t/todo-research-and-document-how-to-use-tor-browser-for-security-not-anonymity-how-to-use-tbb-using-clearnet

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Re: [qubes-users] Template Clone Doesn't really clone

2018-09-07 Thread Patrick

On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 8:18:22 PM UTC-5, unman wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 10:30:29AM -0700, Patrick wrote:
> > Hey everyone.
> > 
> > Maybe I don't understand the expected behavior, but in Qubes 4.0, when you 
> > create a template, and then add software (Chrome for example), and it's 
> > installed on the template (and you can see it in the template shortcuts), 
> > why am I not able to clone the template and see the shortcut, or even the 
> > software installed? Is that a bug or expected?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > Patrick
> > 
> 
> Have you tried the "Refresh Applications" button on the Applications
> pane of the Qubes Settings window for the cloned template?

Right again, unman, thanks much!
Patrick

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Re: [qubes-users] Problems with Qubes 4 installation - Acer Aspire Laptop

2018-09-05 Thread Patrick

On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 12:10:24 AM UTC-5, lucas.s...@gmail.com 
wrote:
> Il giorno domenica 24 giugno 2018 02:59:11 UTC+2, lukz.e...@gmail.com ha 
> scritto:
> > > There is a somewhat drastic approach where you can use UEFI boot but still
> > > disable Xen support for it. It's painful because you have to manually copy
> > > files every time there's a Xen update, but it might help. See
> > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/uefi-troubleshooting/#installation-freezes-before-getting-to-anaconda--disable-efi-runtime-services
> > > if the other approach doesn't help.
> > 
> > Already tried this and didn't work, unfortunately.
> > 
> > I've disabled UEFI right now and the installation finally worked, so it 
> > really was EFI messing up my installation. I'm going to wipe out my disk 
> > and convert it to MBR, install Windows 10 all over again and then make a 
> > Windows 10 / Qubes dualboot.
> 
> my laptop model is Model Acer aspire A515-51G-51V7;
> I have the same problem, text->blackscreen->fan overwork.
> 
> and that poor soul have the same situation too 
> -->https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3995<--
> 
> legacy installation work quite well but everything in esp was blowed up in my 
> case (idk if i done something wrong with EFI shell or it's a qubes effect)
> 
> I await developments.

I also have the Acer 5 A515 and same exact problem. Here is my status:
I have Win 10 on one SSD, boot to it with UEFI mode and Qubes 4.0 on another 
and boot to it on Legacy. So yes, for the moment if I want to switch I first do 
a quick boot to setup/bios and change - it's pretty quick. While I'd love to 
get a menu, I'm not sure the pain is worth it.

Patrick

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[qubes-users] Template Clone Doesn't really clone

2018-09-05 Thread Patrick

Hey everyone.

Maybe I don't understand the expected behavior, but in Qubes 4.0, when you 
create a template, and then add software (Chrome for example), and it's 
installed on the template (and you can see it in the template shortcuts), why 
am I not able to clone the template and see the shortcut, or even the software 
installed? Is that a bug or expected?

Thanks.
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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Unable to reset PCI device 0000:02.00.0

2018-09-05 Thread Patrick

On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 8:24:56 AM UTC-4, unman wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 03, 2018 at 08:06:01AM -0700, Patrick wrote:
> > On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 10:31:50 AM UTC-4, unman wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 03:56:46PM -0700, Patrick wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 3:34:34 PM UTC-4, Jean-Philippe Ouellet 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 10:12 AM, Patrick Bouldin
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 10:10:55 AM UTC-4, Patrick Bouldin 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> Qubes 4.0 Error - "Start failed: Requested operation is not valid: 
> > > > > >> PCI device :02:00.0 is in use by driver xenlight, domain 
> > > > > >> sys-usb
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I don't know how to copy the log folder over and qubes doesn't 
> > > > > >> have the wireless network, which I believe is related, but I've 
> > > > > >> attached a picture of the log.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> This is a new Qubes install on a new Acer laptop Aspire 
> > > > > >> A515-51-86AQ
> > > > > >> Booting in legacy mode.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I can get into the main desktop and get to Dom0 terminal, but 
> > > > > >> can't launch any of the default domains.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> There is another thread on here with the same error. He ran:
> > > > > >> $ qvm-pci attach --persistent --option permissive=true --option 
> > > > > >> no-strict-reset=true sys-net dom0:00_XXX
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> And it worked for him, but doesn't work for me, the response I get 
> > > > > >> is "error : backend vm "dom0" doesn't expose device "00.XXX"
> > > > > 
> > > > > The "XXX" in the PCI device should be filled in with your actual PCI 
> > > > > device.
> > > > > 
> > > > > >> So I wonder what "xenlight" is and it won't release what pci 
> > > > > >> device?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Just a library for interfacing with Xen. Unlikely to be the actual 
> > > > > problem.
> > > > > 
> > > > > >> Suggestions?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > >> Patrick
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pics attached here.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It would be the first time I've seen this, but it might perhaps be
> > > > > conceivable that changing BIOS settings caused your device to show up
> > > > > with a different BDF (essentially "PCI address") than when Qubes was
> > > > > installed? Use `lspci` in dom0 to enumerate them.
> > > > > 
> > > > > An easier way than doing this via the command line is to use the
> > > > > Devices tab of the Qubes VM Settings GUI - remove all devices then add
> > > > > the one which looks like your network device. You can also configure
> > > > > no-strict-reset via the button at the bottom of the GUI, which is
> > > > > sometimes necessary.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks, I went to the work vm for example, and all of the devices were 
> > > > on the left side, nothing on the right, then I selected the wifi device 
> > > > and the response was "you've enabled dynamic memory balancing, some 
> > > > devices might not work!"
> > > > 
> > > > and, it won't let me apply that change, saying "Can't attach pci device 
> > > > to a VM in pvh mode"
> > > > 
> > > > Then I tried to issue your suggestion "$ qvm-pci attach --persistent 
> > > > --option permissive=true --option no-strict-reset=true sys-net 
> > > > dom02:00.0"which is my wireless device and the error response "no 
> > > > backend vm '02'"
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I'm wondering if this is the right way to go or maybe just try a 
> > > > different installation route?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Patrick
> > > > 
> > > 
> >

Re: [qubes-users] Re: Unable to reset PCI device 0000:02.00.0

2018-09-04 Thread Patrick

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 3:34:34 PM UTC-4, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 10:12 AM, Patrick Bouldin
>  wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 10:10:55 AM UTC-4, Patrick Bouldin wrote:
> >> Qubes 4.0 Error - "Start failed: Requested operation is not valid: PCI 
> >> device :02:00.0 is in use by driver xenlight, domain sys-usb
> >>
> >> I don't know how to copy the log folder over and qubes doesn't have the 
> >> wireless network, which I believe is related, but I've attached a picture 
> >> of the log.
> >>
> >> This is a new Qubes install on a new Acer laptop Aspire A515-51-86AQ
> >> Booting in legacy mode.
> >>
> >> I can get into the main desktop and get to Dom0 terminal, but can't launch 
> >> any of the default domains.
> >>
> >> There is another thread on here with the same error. He ran:
> >> $ qvm-pci attach --persistent --option permissive=true --option 
> >> no-strict-reset=true sys-net dom0:00_XXX
> >>
> >> And it worked for him, but doesn't work for me, the response I get is 
> >> "error : backend vm "dom0" doesn't expose device "00.XXX"
> 
> The "XXX" in the PCI device should be filled in with your actual PCI device.
> 
> >> So I wonder what "xenlight" is and it won't release what pci device?
> 
> Just a library for interfacing with Xen. Unlikely to be the actual problem.
> 
> >> Suggestions?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Patrick
> >
> > Pics attached here.
> 
> It would be the first time I've seen this, but it might perhaps be
> conceivable that changing BIOS settings caused your device to show up
> with a different BDF (essentially "PCI address") than when Qubes was
> installed? Use `lspci` in dom0 to enumerate them.
> 
> An easier way than doing this via the command line is to use the
> Devices tab of the Qubes VM Settings GUI - remove all devices then add
> the one which looks like your network device. You can also configure
> no-strict-reset via the button at the bottom of the GUI, which is
> sometimes necessary.

Wow you really know this stuff. Thanks to your advice I was able to piece it 
together. I confirmed as you said, then was able to start booting the VMs based 
on using PVM and removing all the device elements. I'm sure I've got a lot of 
experimenting to go but the basics are there with wireless.

Thanks so much,
Patrick

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Unable to reset PCI device 0000:02.00.0

2018-09-03 Thread Patrick

On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 10:31:50 AM UTC-4, unman wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 02, 2018 at 03:56:46PM -0700, Patrick wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 3:34:34 PM UTC-4, Jean-Philippe Ouellet 
> > wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 10:12 AM, Patrick Bouldin
> > >  wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 10:10:55 AM UTC-4, Patrick Bouldin 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> Qubes 4.0 Error - "Start failed: Requested operation is not valid: PCI 
> > > >> device :02:00.0 is in use by driver xenlight, domain sys-usb
> > > >>
> > > >> I don't know how to copy the log folder over and qubes doesn't have 
> > > >> the wireless network, which I believe is related, but I've attached a 
> > > >> picture of the log.
> > > >>
> > > >> This is a new Qubes install on a new Acer laptop Aspire A515-51-86AQ
> > > >> Booting in legacy mode.
> > > >>
> > > >> I can get into the main desktop and get to Dom0 terminal, but can't 
> > > >> launch any of the default domains.
> > > >>
> > > >> There is another thread on here with the same error. He ran:
> > > >> $ qvm-pci attach --persistent --option permissive=true --option 
> > > >> no-strict-reset=true sys-net dom0:00_XXX
> > > >>
> > > >> And it worked for him, but doesn't work for me, the response I get is 
> > > >> "error : backend vm "dom0" doesn't expose device "00.XXX"
> > > 
> > > The "XXX" in the PCI device should be filled in with your actual PCI 
> > > device.
> > > 
> > > >> So I wonder what "xenlight" is and it won't release what pci device?
> > > 
> > > Just a library for interfacing with Xen. Unlikely to be the actual 
> > > problem.
> > > 
> > > >> Suggestions?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Patrick
> > > >
> > > > Pics attached here.
> > > 
> > > It would be the first time I've seen this, but it might perhaps be
> > > conceivable that changing BIOS settings caused your device to show up
> > > with a different BDF (essentially "PCI address") than when Qubes was
> > > installed? Use `lspci` in dom0 to enumerate them.
> > > 
> > > An easier way than doing this via the command line is to use the
> > > Devices tab of the Qubes VM Settings GUI - remove all devices then add
> > > the one which looks like your network device. You can also configure
> > > no-strict-reset via the button at the bottom of the GUI, which is
> > > sometimes necessary.
> > 
> > Thanks, I went to the work vm for example, and all of the devices were on 
> > the left side, nothing on the right, then I selected the wifi device and 
> > the response was "you've enabled dynamic memory balancing, some devices 
> > might not work!"
> > 
> > and, it won't let me apply that change, saying "Can't attach pci device to 
> > a VM in pvh mode"
> > 
> > Then I tried to issue your suggestion "$ qvm-pci attach --persistent 
> > --option permissive=true --option no-strict-reset=true sys-net dom02:00.0"  
> >   which is my wireless device and the error response "no backend vm '02'"
> > 
> > 
> > I'm wondering if this is the right way to go or maybe just try a different 
> > installation route?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Patrick
> > 
> 
> There's a typo in your command:
> you have dom02:00.0 and the command should be dom0:02
> 
> The two messages you received can be fixed in the Qube settings window.
> You can change the VM mode on the Advanced pane - select HVM.
> There's a checkbox for memory balancing on the same pane , if that's
> needed. I habitually turn this off and set the memory/maxmem settings
> low. ymmv

Thanks, I'm feeling outgunned on this one. I really have no idea about what is 
truly going on - what's the root cause issue and why? What device is not 
resetting and why that matters, etc. etc.

Just to be clear. While I'm able to get into the Qubes desktop, and can get to 
dom0 terminal, none of the pre-configured VMs are coming up. If I simply do a 
start from the Dom0 qubes manager, on any VM, the same error comes up:

"Unable to reset PCI device :01:00.1: Internal error: active :01:00.0 
devices on bus with :01:00.1 not doing bus reset."

The log says:
"unable to release device /dev/loop0: No such device or address"

I have tried all your suggestions (HVM/mem checkbox/low mem), no change in 
result.

Based on this, what is going on in the first place? I feel if I can understand 
the root of it I stand a chance in solving. 

Thanks,

Patrick

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Unable to reset PCI device 0000:02.00.0

2018-09-02 Thread Patrick

On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 3:34:34 PM UTC-4, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 2, 2018 at 10:12 AM, Patrick Bouldin
>  wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 10:10:55 AM UTC-4, Patrick Bouldin wrote:
> >> Qubes 4.0 Error - "Start failed: Requested operation is not valid: PCI 
> >> device :02:00.0 is in use by driver xenlight, domain sys-usb
> >>
> >> I don't know how to copy the log folder over and qubes doesn't have the 
> >> wireless network, which I believe is related, but I've attached a picture 
> >> of the log.
> >>
> >> This is a new Qubes install on a new Acer laptop Aspire A515-51-86AQ
> >> Booting in legacy mode.
> >>
> >> I can get into the main desktop and get to Dom0 terminal, but can't launch 
> >> any of the default domains.
> >>
> >> There is another thread on here with the same error. He ran:
> >> $ qvm-pci attach --persistent --option permissive=true --option 
> >> no-strict-reset=true sys-net dom0:00_XXX
> >>
> >> And it worked for him, but doesn't work for me, the response I get is 
> >> "error : backend vm "dom0" doesn't expose device "00.XXX"
> 
> The "XXX" in the PCI device should be filled in with your actual PCI device.
> 
> >> So I wonder what "xenlight" is and it won't release what pci device?
> 
> Just a library for interfacing with Xen. Unlikely to be the actual problem.
> 
> >> Suggestions?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Patrick
> >
> > Pics attached here.
> 
> It would be the first time I've seen this, but it might perhaps be
> conceivable that changing BIOS settings caused your device to show up
> with a different BDF (essentially "PCI address") than when Qubes was
> installed? Use `lspci` in dom0 to enumerate them.
> 
> An easier way than doing this via the command line is to use the
> Devices tab of the Qubes VM Settings GUI - remove all devices then add
> the one which looks like your network device. You can also configure
> no-strict-reset via the button at the bottom of the GUI, which is
> sometimes necessary.

Thanks, I went to the work vm for example, and all of the devices were on the 
left side, nothing on the right, then I selected the wifi device and the 
response was "you've enabled dynamic memory balancing, some devices might not 
work!"

and, it won't let me apply that change, saying "Can't attach pci device to a VM 
in pvh mode"

Then I tried to issue your suggestion "$ qvm-pci attach --persistent --option 
permissive=true --option no-strict-reset=true sys-net dom02:00.0"which is 
my wireless device and the error response "no backend vm '02'"


I'm wondering if this is the right way to go or maybe just try a different 
installation route?

Thanks,
Patrick

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[qubes-users] Unable to reset PCI device 0000:02.00.0

2018-09-02 Thread Patrick Bouldin

Qubes 4.0 Error - "Start failed: Requested operation is not valid: PCI device 
:02:00.0 is in use by driver xenlight, domain sys-usb

I don't know how to copy the log folder over and qubes doesn't have the 
wireless network, which I believe is related, but I've attached a picture of 
the log. 

This is a new Qubes install on a new Acer laptop Aspire A515-51-86AQ
Booting in legacy mode.

I can get into the main desktop and get to Dom0 terminal, but can't launch any 
of the default domains.

There is another thread on here with the same error. He ran:
$ qvm-pci attach --persistent --option permissive=true --option 
no-strict-reset=true sys-net dom0:00_XXX

And it worked for him, but doesn't work for me, the response I get is "error : 
backend vm "dom0" doesn't expose device "00.XXX"

So I wonder what "xenlight" is and it won't release what pci device?

Suggestions?

Thanks,
Patrick

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Whonix 14 - Updated, just lost Tor Browser for Whonix-dvm??

2018-08-29 Thread Patrick Schleizer

code9n:
> Same issue but when I try to update-torbrowser (or via Tor Browser 
> Downloader) the install fails because ttb's signature has expired.

Separate issue being discussed and answered here:

https://forums.whonix.org/t/update-torbrowser-key-expired/5782

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - Updated, just lost Tor Browser for Whonix-dvm??

2018-08-29 Thread Patrick Schleizer

All updates regarding this issue here:

https://forums.whonix.org/t/bug-tor-browser-missing-in-dispvm-tor-browser-missing-in-whonix-ws-14-templatevm/5712/4

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Whonix 14 - Updated, just lost Tor Browser for Whonix-dvm??

2018-08-29 Thread Patrick Schleizer

qubes-...@tutanota.com:
>The dvm should just get the Tor Browser from the whonix-ws-14-dvm same as 
>anon-whonix for example, right?

Yes.

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[qubes-users] Re: Suggested order for loading Qubes 4.0?

2018-08-18 Thread Patrick Bouldin

On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 2:50:25 PM UTC-4, John S.Recdep wrote:
> On 08/17/2018 03:13 AM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
> > On Fri, August 17, 2018 6:03 am, Patrick Bouldin wrote:
> >> On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 11:34:48 PM UTC-4, John S.Recdep wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 08/16/2018 04:25 AM, Patrick Bouldin wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hello, I got some great advice about having two hard drives since I
> >>>> want Windows on one drive and qubes on another. So I now have a good
> >>>> I7 laptop with two - 1/2 TB SSDs. I had in mind to load it this way,
> >>>> is the following correct?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm starting with both SSDs empty, no OS on either.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 1 Physically install both drives
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2 Install Windows on disk 1 after booting to flash drive with windows
> >>>> ISO
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 3 Unplug windows based SSD drive just to be sure I'm on the right
> >>>> drive next
> >>>>
> >>>> 4 Boot to bios, modify bios to change 2nd SSD (to be Qubes) FROM
> >>>> Windows UEFI to other OS (correct?)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 5 Boot to a flash drive loaded with the Qubes 4.0 install ISO
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This is the part I'm really not clear about, remember I'm working
> >>>> with two drives, booting to either the drive to windows or the drive
> >>>> to qubes. So, am I following the advice here?:
> >>>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/
> >>>> - select custom layout, assign existing /boot partition as /boot,
> >>>> deselect the 'Format' option, continue with installation.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Or, do I let Qubes install in automatic configuration and then
> >>>> manually modify the grub file?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Patrick
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Sounds like what I did/do   with windows 10 ; since it doesn't involve
> >>> Grub ,  probably won't be a problem ..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In my case however,  the uefi, I believe doesn't label the drive with
> >>> the  drive name, but changes it to  "windows" or "qubes" , which concerns
> >>> me , as I think it incorrect, I think that may be how uefi works  ymmv,
> >>> why not try it
> >>>
> >>> what is a "windows uefi" ? looks to me like
> >>> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> doesn't apply to you, its for single disk dual booting
> >>
> >> Hi John and thanks. I agree but I think after I install qubes then I will
> >> need to delay the grub screen in order to be able to choose either Win 10
> >> or Qubes. And I think I have to somehow tell qubes to look for the
> >> windows drive and then allow to choose it...  Anyway you're right, I
> >> think once I have them both loaded I hope to figure it out.
> > 
> > UEFI uses an EFI partition on one of your drives, so if you pull the
> > Windows drive it might get confused. You can try it, but if you have
> > problems might want to re-install with legacy/grub boot for both OSes.
> > 
> > 
> 
> I don't think Grub has to be involved at all, you just change  the boot
> order in  the  Bios-Uefi
> 
> If it doesn't work pulling the drive,  just leave it, When I put either
> win10 or Q4.0   , there is no Grub choice  being asked

Thanks to you both.

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[qubes-users] Re: Suggested order for loading Qubes 4.0?

On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 11:34:48 PM UTC-4, John S.Recdep wrote:
> On 08/16/2018 04:25 AM, Patrick Bouldin wrote:
> > Hello, I got some great advice about having two hard drives since I want 
> > Windows on one drive and qubes on another. So I now have a good I7 laptop 
> > with two - 1/2 TB SSDs. I had in mind to load it this way, is the following 
> > correct?
> > 
> > I'm starting with both SSDs empty, no OS on either.
> > 
> > 1 Physically install both drives
> > 
> > 2 Install Windows on disk 1 after booting to flash drive with windows ISO
> > 
> > 3 Unplug windows based SSD drive just to be sure I'm on the right drive next
> > 
> > 4 Boot to bios, modify bios to change 2nd SSD (to be Qubes) FROM Windows 
> > UEFI to other OS (correct?)
> > 
> > 5 Boot to a flash drive loaded with the Qubes 4.0 install ISO 
> > 
> > This is the part I'm really not clear about, remember I'm working with two 
> > drives, booting to either the drive to windows or the drive to qubes. So, 
> > am I following the advice here?: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/
> >   - select custom layout, assign existing /boot partition as /boot, 
> > deselect the 
> > 'Format' option, continue with installation.   
> > 
> > Or, do I let Qubes install in automatic configuration and then manually 
> > modify the grub file?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Patrick
> > 
> 
> Sounds like what I did/do   with windows 10 ; since it doesn't involve
> Grub ,  probably won't be a problem ..
> 
> In my case however,  the uefi, I believe doesn't label the drive with
> the  drive name, but changes it to  "windows" or "qubes" , which
> concerns me , as I think it incorrect, I think that may be how uefi
> works  ymmv,  why not try it
> 
> what is a "windows uefi" ?
> looks to me like
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot
> 
> doesn't apply to you, its for single disk dual booting

Hi John and thanks. I agree but I think after I install qubes then I will need 
to delay the grub screen in order to be able to choose either Win 10 or Qubes. 
And I think I have to somehow tell qubes to look for the windows drive and then 
allow to choose it...  Anyway you're right, I think once I have them both 
loaded I hope to figure it out.

Thanks.

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Re: [qubes-users] Confused about verifying signatures

On Thursday, August 16, 2018 at 6:43:50 PM UTC-4, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA512
> 
> On 2018-08-16 17:35, Andrew David Wong wrote:
> > On 2018-08-16 15:47, Patrick Bouldin wrote:
> >> Hi trying to validate 4.0. I downloaded the 
> >> qubes-master-signing-key.asc and then not able to progress. I did 
> >> find Joanna's qubes master signing key footprint, but I don't know 
> >> how to compare or take the next step...
> > 
> >> I did this with 3.0 a few years ago but can't remember...
> > 
> >> I did check the web site and still don't know.
> > 
> >> Thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > If you just want to see the fingerprint of the key you downloaded as a
> > file so that you can compare it to the fingerprint you obtained
> > through another channel, this is probably the simplest way:
> > 
> >   $ gpg2 qubes-master-signing-key.asc
> >   gpg: WARNING: no command supplied.  Trying to guess what you mean ...
> >   pub   rsa4096 2010-04-01 [SC]
> > 427F11FD0FAA4B080123F01CDDFA1A3E36879494
> >   uid   Qubes Master Signing Key
> > 
> 
> If you're using gpg instead of gpg2, there's the --with-fingerprint
> option:
> 
>   $ gpg --with-fingerprint qubes-master-signing-key.asc 
>   gpg: keyring `/home/user/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
>   pub  4096R/36879494 2010-04-01 Qubes Master Signing Key
>   Key fingerprint = 427F 11FD 0FAA 4B08 0123  F01C DDFA 1A3E 3687 9494
> 
> - -- 
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> Community Manager, Qubes OS
> https://www.qubes-os.org
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> 
> iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEZQ7rCYX0j3henGH1203TvDlQMDAFAlt1/gQACgkQ203TvDlQ
> MDASEA//a1TzjaaAPwNS12GHWollY2WGqpSK7RZNEsHkBSJYPTaNayqOHXx2yzQ2
> Re5uPgpHofCYxNx96VhKFDE9rIo17ozrLrr+ZywESDn5GoIzM7BtUaKTR5GQWZx1
> E9vALH50GtNJAdb/SumOcdsDxrDj139wjcAuypWBDXK6lxF2hR/nDr7RZMxvfwTF
> uixM4LP7zhwOafLAbhXsa9wyu6ZsooTicdiSit+iQPk15oxLGjUSncQcIYuRLdvX
> yLht5/2ZPST1Jm9HyEEwOllMN4eFrMAc/StHhVxPWlUiqtr3xMki3IWZV+xi8sMh
> Ri0HmASNzLn4JwNQnPFQqnT+Z4Im8tiH24w/T8eHhP2hLo8tEfd5aq26xl0NoRbU
> Hcc69XXjzITQIi2d7YZHgtNgrml8zCjTRF+9p14cLyFFl2ISJsEZeus/egQWE6Rv
> aRMR+IPDG8HqCWepV+Y/of3lb+uqd7SBVJdcRavf/Jrlf/9AOeCRDUteTGsiJE14
> U9FksIiiZRclcHR+NFeZSbINvwlwNx2tO7o7YcbBxmqPMzsg20gHYfuI3GAnMY/R
> yHX52v6sXcM/4Y08TrTTHV1l+/EPUOnOb3adaIejNyEiHB5WiQ3fgoEwpX3GkKTb
> iCt4TJJKo6KRSG2EzMMLH0s69gGphqLtgC5+zEQg4X7NWpFzWX4=
> =cBsO
> -END PGP SIGNATURE-

Thanks and a quick question. I did get a final "Good signature", but curious, 
does that process actually modify the iso at all? Just would like to know 
because I pulled the iso file from my other pc and it will be easier to build 
the flash there.

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[qubes-users] Confused about verifying signatures

Hi trying to validate 4.0. I downloaded the qubes-master-signing-key.asc and 
then not able to progress. I did find Joanna's qubes master signing key 
footprint, but I don't know how to compare or take the next step...

I did this with 3.0 a few years ago but can't remember...

I did check the web site and still don't know.

Thanks.

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[qubes-users] Suggested order for loading Qubes 4.0?

Hello, I got some great advice about having two hard drives since I want
Windows on one drive and qubes on another. So I now have a good I7 laptop with
two - 1/2 TB SSDs. I had in mind to load it this way, is the following correct?

I'm starting with both SSDs empty, no OS on either.

1 Physically install both drives

2 Install Windows on disk 1 after booting to flash drive with windows ISO

3 Unplug windows based SSD drive just to be sure I'm on the right drive next

4 Boot to bios, modify bios to change 2nd SSD (to be Qubes) FROM Windows UEFI
to other OS (correct?)

5 Boot to a flash drive loaded with the Qubes 4.0 install ISO

This is the part I'm really not clear about, remember I'm working with two
drives, booting to either the drive to windows or the drive to qubes. So, am I
following the advice here?: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/
- select custom layout, assign existing /boot partition as /boot, deselect
the
'Format' option, continue with installation.

Or, do I let Qubes install in automatic configuration and then manually modify
the grub file?

Thanks,
Patrick

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

2018-08-16 Thread Patrick Schleizer

qubes-...@tutanota.com:
> Hi Patrick, should one switch the Qubes Tor networking backed normally by the 
> sys-whonix to newly created sys-whonix-backup? It make sense to 
> update/upgrade whonix through Tor.
> thx

If you manage to do that, sure.

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

Franz:
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Patrick Schleizer <
> patrick-mailingli...@whonix.org> wrote:
> 
>> Franz:
>>> when I try to uninstall whonix-ws
>>>
>>> sudo dnf remove qubes-template-whonix-ws*
>>>
>>> I get
>>> No match for argument: qubes-template-whonix-ws*
>>> Error: No packages marked for removal
>>>
>>> I followed this guide: https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Uninstall
>>>
>>
>>
>> Output of...?
>>
>> dnf list | grep qubes-template-whonix
>>
> 
> 
> No output and no error. I forgot to mention I am using 3.2
> 

Output of...?

qvm-ls | grep whonix

Well, if didn't have Whonix installed yet/anymore then there is nothing
to uninstall. All ok then.

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - Updated, just lost Tor Browser for Whonix-dvm??

Please contribute here:

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Disposable_VM

sm...@tutamail.com:
> I just transitioned to the new Whonix 14 templates, everything was working 
> great however I just updated both the -gw and -ws templates and lost the Tor 
> Browser(AnonDist) from the whonix-ws-14-dvm after update? When I launch a 
> "whonix-ws-14-dvm" browser I get a pop-up asking: "Tor Browser not 
> installed/Start Tor Browser download?".

Will look into it.

> The problem I am having is:
> 1) The "whonix-ws-14-dvm" starts but no gnome terminal launches?

Doesn't have gnome-terminal. Use:

konsole

> 2) Since whonix doesn't use "Firefox" what would I type to launch the "Tor 
> Browser"? Assuming I eventually get a gnome terminal to launch

torbrowser

> 3) How do I install the Tor Browser safely into either the template or -dvm?

Installed by default.

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Tor_Browser#In_Qubes-Whonix

> Other notes:
> - I created an AppVM using the updated "whonix-ws-14" template, received a 
> popup that "Tor Browser" is not installed, installed the oldest browser per 
> the recommendation on the pop-up, however after installing another pop-up 
> states: "Signature looks quite old already...check signature looks sane".

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Tor_Browser#Installation_Confirmation_Notification

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ongoing developments. This way users benefit from notifications
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which address identified issues, like those affecting the updater or
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Re: [qubes-users] Guide: Monero wallet/daemon isolation w/qubes+whonix

https://getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/cli_wallet_daemon_isolation_qubes_whonix.html
is missing how to actually use it.

I guess it is simply: run `monero-wallet-cli` or monero gui in
monero-wallet-ws."

0xB44EFD8751077F97:
> Patrick Schleizer:
>> I didn't notice this thread until now.
>>
>> Interesting!
>>
>> Now reference here:
>> https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Monero
>>
>>
>> I am wondering how to save users from as many manual steps as possible.
>>
>>
>> To save users from having to edit /rw/config/rc.local...
>>
>>> socat TCP-LISTEN:18081,fork,bind=127.0.0.1 EXEC:"qrexec-client-vm
>> monerod-ws user.monerod"
>>
>> Could maybe replaced by file:
>>
>> /etc/anon-ws-disable-stacked-tor.d/40_monero.conf
>>
>> content:
>>
>> $pre_command socat TCP-LISTEN:18081,fork,bind=127.0.0.1
>> EXEC:"qrexec-client-vm monerod-ws user.monerod"
>>
>> Should work after reboot (or after "sudo systemctl restart
>> anon-ws-disable-stacked-tor").
>>
>> Untested.
>>
>> Reference:
>> https://github.com/Whonix/anon-ws-disable-stacked-tor/blob/master/etc/anon-ws-disable-stacked-tor.d/30_anon-dist.conf
>>
> 
> Tested, works on Whonix 14/Qubes 4.0.
> 
> Would you consider shipping this as a default Whonix file, or maybe part
> of a package?

In package https://github.com/Whonix/qubes-whonix when using socket
activation, yes.

Similar to:

-
https://github.com/Whonix/anon-ws-disable-stacked-tor/blob/master/lib/systemd/system/anon-ws-disable-stacked-tor_autogen_port_9050.socket

-
https://github.com/Whonix/anon-ws-disable-stacked-tor/blob/master/lib/systemd/system/anon-ws-disable-stacked-tor_autogen_port_9050.service

File name should not contain "anon-ws-disable-stacked-tor" / "autogen".

File names...?

/lib/systemd/system/qubes-whonix-monerod.socket
/lib/systemd/system/qubes-whonix-monerod.service

Replace "ExecStart=/lib/systemd/systemd-socket-proxyd 10.152.152.10:9050"

with:

socat TCP-LISTEN:18081,fork,bind=127.0.0.1 EXEC:"qrexec-client-vm
monerod-ws user.monerod"

Untested. Does that work?

Would this break monerod for users not using this Monero wallet/daemon
isolation? I mean, does monerod use local port 18081 by default? In that
case we'd need to change that port.

> If not, the user will have to put this on the TemplateVM
> or config bind-dirs; which are both additional steps.
>>
>>
>> /etc/qubes-rpc/policy/user.monerod could maybe become:
>> /etc/qubes-rpc/policy/whonix.monerod
>>
>> To have users from manually creating it, could be dropped here:
>>
>> https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-core-admin-addon-whonix/tree/master/qubes-rpc-policy
>>
>> If you like, create a pull request and see what Marek thinks.
>>
> 
> This would be useful. It's on my radar.
> 
>>
>>
>> /home/user/monerod.service would be better in /rw so only root can write
>> to it. Even better perhaps systemd user services?
>>
>> https://www.brendanlong.com/systemd-user-services-are-amazing.html
>>
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=820111
>>
>>
> 
> Interesting, I didn't know about this. I don't see how moving the file
> from /home/user/ to /home/user/.config/systemd/user is more secure,
> though.

> I think moving it to /rw may be slightly better, but
> passwordless sudo kind of negates that.

Indeed only useful for users of these:

- https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/vm-sudo/
- https://github.com/tasket/Qubes-VM-hardening

Qubes-VM-hardening will be easily available one day probably.

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/2748

I guess password protected sudo will get more and more easy in Qubes so
very much worth going for proper access rights.

> The best would be to put it on the TemplateVM in /lib/systemd/system/,
> but, again, this is more steps for the user.
> 
> In regards to monero being in stretch-backports now, I think it might be
> an equal number of steps or more than there is now, and more confusing
> for the user, to add stretch-backports to the TemplateVM's sources and
> install via apt. If it were in stretch this would be no question.
> 

And only monerod is in Debian. monero gui is not.

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS dual boot question

2018-08-14 Thread Patrick Bouldin

On Monday, August 13, 2018 at 4:17:31 PM UTC-4, Patrick Bouldin wrote:
> I have a goal to buy a new laptop, preconfigured with Windows, and then 
> within Windows I will reallocate disk space in order to install Qubes4.0.
> 
> In the past with prior versions of Qubes that has sometimes been problematic, 
> is that fixed with 4.0 or still a problem?
> 
> Any input on how to proceed?
> 
> One data point, while I can recreate windows it's a pain in the butt to get 
> the licensing back on the machine. I can do it, but would like to avoid it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Patrick

Hello, Sphere - apologies, I didn't recognize the help you were giving me was 
tactually a better approach than dual boot. Thanks for that. Also, I just have 
to find the details on how I'd approach that solution. If I get a laptop that's 
preloaded with the SSD+HDD already then I would need to unwind that. Perhaps 
should just by something that has the SSD already, and add the HDD - but then I 
need to find the details on how to boot to either one.

Thanks again.

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

This is completely untested. Let me know what you think and if this
works for you.

* A backup of all Qubes VMs using the usual Qubes backup mechanism
(independent from below) is advisable anyhow.

* One who mind about their contents could clone their sys-whonix to
sys-whonix-backup and clone their anon-whonix to anon-whonix-backup.
Those who don't mind about their contents probably don't have this issue
anyhow?

* Then delete anon-whonix and sys-whonix.

* Then proceed as per https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install

* Then delete the newly created sys-whonix / anon-whonix.

* Clone sys-whonix-backup to sys-whonix.

* Clone anon-whonix-backup to anon-whonix.

* Finally delete superfluous sys-whonix-backup / anon-whonix-backup.

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

Thank you for looking into this!

Chris Laprise:
> It was a bit confusing, but from the wiki Install page I picked out
> these relevant steps for dom0 (Qubes 4.0):
> 
> $ sudo qubes-dom0-update qubes-core-admin-addon-whonix
> $ sudo qubesctl state.sls qvm.anon-whonix
> 
> The second command will start the download and install, although it does
> not give much feedback.

Created 'add salt download progress indicator' #4215
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4215
for it.

> Also, there is no need to clone old whonix-gw in the steps I mentioned
> earlier;

Why not?

> Also, there is no need to clone old whonix-gw in the steps I mentioned
> earlier; only whonix-ws is needed. Once you have your appVMs switched
> over to whonix-ws-14 you can delete the clone.

Why needs whonix-ws to be cloned anyhow if you like to install from
Qubes repository?

whonix-ws should be ignored by salt since the template name changed to
whonix-ws-14?

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Re: [qubes-users] Guide: Monero wallet/daemon isolation w/qubes+whonix

I didn't notice this thread until now.

Interesting!

Now reference here:
https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Monero

I am wondering how to save users from as many manual steps as possible.

To save users from having to edit /rw/config/rc.local...

> socat TCP-LISTEN:18081,fork,bind=127.0.0.1 EXEC:"qrexec-client-vm
monerod-ws user.monerod"

Could maybe replaced by file:

/etc/anon-ws-disable-stacked-tor.d/40_monero.conf

content:

$pre_command socat TCP-LISTEN:18081,fork,bind=127.0.0.1
EXEC:"qrexec-client-vm monerod-ws user.monerod"

Should work after reboot (or after "sudo systemctl restart
anon-ws-disable-stacked-tor").

Untested.

Reference:
https://github.com/Whonix/anon-ws-disable-stacked-tor/blob/master/etc/anon-ws-disable-stacked-tor.d/30_anon-dist.conf

/etc/qubes-rpc/policy/user.monerod could maybe become:
/etc/qubes-rpc/policy/whonix.monerod

To have users from manually creating it, could be dropped here:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-core-admin-addon-whonix/tree/master/qubes-rpc-policy

If you like, create a pull request and see what Marek thinks.

/home/user/monerod.service would be better in /rw so only root can write
to it. Even better perhaps systemd user services?

https://www.brendanlong.com/systemd-user-services-are-amazing.html

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=820111

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Whonix 14 installation problem...using 4.0?

sm...@tutamail.com:
> Not sure it was happening in the background but waited for 1 1/2 hrs
with no feedback after the "sudo qubesctl state.sls qvm.anon-whonix"
command in Dom0.

Created...

add salt download progress indicator #4215
https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4215

... for it.

> Regardless I have it running...thanks Whonix/Qubes!
>

Thanks! :)

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

Andrew David Wong:
> On 2018-08-12 14:26, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
>> On Sun, August 12, 2018 6:16 pm, qubes-...@tutanota.com wrote:
>>> I am planning to move from my Whonix 13 to Whonix 14 on Qubes. My
>>> question is what way it should be easier, based on the Q user
>>> experiences. What would you propose - upgrade or re-install? Are
>>> there any known issues which would call for one or other way?
>
>> Re-install is usually easier.
>
>>> I have few VMs based on the Whonix template with data and
>>> settings on it. Will the contents of these VMs remain, or will
>>> it be destroyed - re-install vs upgrade?
>
>> Contents should remain, just set them to the new Whonix template.
>> Make sure to back up everything first.
>
>
> The installation guide [1] states:
>
> "Re-installation will destroy any existing user data stored in Whonix
> VMs, unless it is backed up first. To avoid this scenario, it is
> possible to upgrade Whonix 13 to 14 instead of following these
> instructions."
>
> This was puzzling to me, too, since TemplateVM upgrades usually don't
> affect user data in TemplateBasedVMs. Could you shed some light on
> this, Patrick?
>
> [1] https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install

I see. Indeed it is not clear from the text alone without jumping over
to the reference and other links.

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install links to
https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Uninstall which suggests to get rid of
Whonix entirely (whonix-gw, whonix-ws TemplateVM, sys-whonix,
anon-whonix) before proceeding. Therefore all data gets lost unless
backup exists. Otherwise reinstall using salt would not be possible and
manual reinstall is too difficult (too much room for user error).

This is due to a hard to solve issue with Qubes salt:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4177

Help welcome with these salt issues as well as other salt issues (or any
Whonix issue):

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22C%3A+Whonix%22

Cheers,
Patrick

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 - upgrade or re-install? Whats more smooth, less troublesome?

Franz:
> when I try to uninstall whonix-ws
> 
> sudo dnf remove qubes-template-whonix-ws*
> 
> I get
> No match for argument: qubes-template-whonix-ws*
> Error: No packages marked for removal
> 
> I followed this guide: https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Uninstall
> 


Output of...?

dnf list | grep qubes-template-whonix

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes OS dual boot question

2018-08-13 Thread Patrick Bouldin


> If you really want to insist on dual boot however, sad to say but I can't 
> help you with that.

Ok, thanks.

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[qubes-users] Qubes OS dual boot question

2018-08-13 Thread Patrick Bouldin

I have a goal to buy a new laptop, preconfigured with Windows, and then within 
Windows I will reallocate disk space in order to install Qubes4.0.

In the past with prior versions of Qubes that has sometimes been problematic, 
is that fixed with 4.0 or still a problem?

Any input on how to proceed?

One data point, while I can recreate windows it's a pain in the butt to get the 
licensing back on the machine. I can do it, but would like to avoid it.

Thanks,
Patrick

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Re: [qubes-users] Stable Template list 06/2018? eg whonix 14

How to know when new Whonix versions are out?

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Stay_Tuned

Also posted subject "Whonix 14 has been Released" on this list yesterday.

Not sure how we can do better.

notify Whonix 14 release on qubes-announce

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4193

799:
> Hello,
> 
>  schrieb am So., 3. Juni 2018, 09:47:
> 
>> 2. Jun 2018 23:54 by qubes-users@googlegroups.com:
>>
>> Is there a list of Stable Templates somewhere ,
>>
>>  https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Upgrading_Whonix_13_to_Whonix_14

Was testers-only by that time. By that time, that wiki page indicated
that. Released stable yesterday.

> I assume that we will see a Whonix 14 template in the "official qubes
> repository" soon, correct?
> 
> Or do we really need to manually upgrade from Whonix 13?

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix ERROR: Systemd Clock Check Result: Unexpected results by timedatectl

> Unexpected results by timedatectl

- Please enter error messages into search engines

"Unexpected results by timedatectl"

Then often find already existing discussions.

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3469

- Upgrade to Whonix 14 - fixed there.

Cheers,
Patrick

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Re: [qubes-users] Delete whonix and install again

'Andrzej Andrzej' via qubes-users:
> Very funny: D I've already solved the problem. I did not notice one thing. In 
> qvm-prefs whonix, I need to give False in option installed_by_rpm
> 

Just now reported a bug.

when restoring a VM from backup, don't restore setting installed_by_rpm

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4192

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Re: [qubes-users] sys-whonix-14 won't 'bootstrap' hangs @ 25-40% etc

none:
> I've noticed that sys-whonix-14  appears to fail after
> suspend and resume . is this a known issue?

Depends on exact terminology. Suspend or pause?

Does
https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Post_Install_Advice#Network_Time_Syncing
clarify?

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Re: [qubes-users] whonix clock sync error on boot

cooloutac:
> anyone else getting Unexpected results by timedatectl message from sys-whonix 
> when booting Qubes?
> 
> Tried updating doesn't seem to be going away.
> 

> Unexpected results by timedatectl

- Please enter error messages into search engines

"Unexpected results by timedatectl"

Then often find already existing discussions.

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3469

- Upgrade to Whonix 14 - fixed there.

Cheers,
Patrick

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Re: [qubes-users] whonix doesnt sync time -> mfa totp oathtool not working?

qubes-...@tutanota.com:
> Hi, I experience an issue with the mfa oathtool totp. 
Application similar to google authenticator?

Whonix's sdwdate might not be accurate enough for it.

Can you use that tool offline? Doing such code generation you're much
better off doing this in a non-Whonix offline (vault) VM.

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix and problem with Proxy Policy

Let salt do it for you.

Refer to:

https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install

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Re: [qubes-users] How to change TemplateVM update method from Whonix to just another appvm?

Sphere:
> So upon installation of Qubes I have set updating of TemplateVMs through 
> Whonix but now I'm actually stuck with it and I want to change it to updating 
> through just another AppVM.
> 
> Could anyone guide me to what commands I need to use in order to fix this? (I 
> actually wish this was an option in Qubes settings UI as well)
> 

Qubes R4?

modify:

/etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.UpdatesProxy

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Re: [qubes-users] Confusing whonix check error

ray242012:
> Unexpected results by timedatectl

- Please enter error messages into search engines

"Unexpected results by timedatectl"

Then often find already existing discussions.

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3469

- Upgrade to Whonix 14 - fixed there.

Cheers,
Patrick

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Re: [qubes-users] Whonix 14 has been Released

Franz:
> Many thanks, so, following this link, the command
> 
> sudo qubesctl state.sls qvm.anon-whonix
> 
>  should download Whonix 14, correct?
> 
> But the same link tells that this would download templates whonix-gw and
> whonix-ws. But these are the same names of the old templates. So am I
> expected to rename the old templates before calling the above command?
> 

Hi,

thanks!

Please refer to:
https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes/Install

Cheers,
Patrick

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[qubes-users] Whonix 14 has been Released