Re: [qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 3:33:48 PM UTC-4, yreb-qusw wrote: > #! bin/sh -e > > echo "add win10">&2 > > cat < > menuentry "win10" { > > insmod part_msdos > > insmod ntfs > > set root='(hd0,msdos2)' > > chainloader +1 > > } > > EOF > > > > > >sudo chmod +x /etc/grub.d/40_custom > > > >sudo grub2-mkconfig > > win10 > > > > > > I didn't realize I could search and adapt "fedora grub2-mkconfig" for win7 > > > another time consuming kludge, esp. after getting lucky, that I guess it > wasn't an EFI win10 install , > > IMHO, someone Might update the qubes docs glad its working. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1085a582-74a1-45e2-8856-278ea3c97291%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 10:51:49 PM UTC-4, yreb-qusw wrote: > On 07/01/2017 02:46 PM, Unman wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 12:49:59PM -1000, yreb-qusw wrote: > >> On 07/01/2017 12:10 PM, Unman wrote: > >>> Nothing will go wrong if you get the partition specification wrong - > >>> Windows wont boot and you will see an error message. > >>> From what you have said you have two options: msdos1 and msdos2. > >>> In grub partitions are numbered starting from 1, so these can be > >>> referenced as hd0,msdos1 and hd0,msdos2. > >>> Just create two entries, one for each partition, and try to boot: if > >>> the first fails, reboot and choose the second. > >> > >> > >> > >> I'd be happy to if I had a clue what that means like what ? > >> > >> > >> > >> menuentry "Windows" { > >> insmod part_msdos > >> insmod ntldr > >> insmod ntfs > >> ntldr (hd0,msdos1)/bootmgr > >> } > >> > >> > >> menuentry "Windows" { > >> insmod part_msdos > >> insmod ntldr > >> insmod ntfs > >> ntldr (hd1,1)/bootmgr > >> } > >> > >> > >> > >> Again, lets say it might be hd0 it might be hd1 , it might be partition > >> msdos1 msdos2 or ? should it just be labeled 1 or 2 > >> > >> then I would put in 4 entries or reboot and just keep guessing on the > >> format > >> > > > > No need to guess: > > grub references disks numbering from 0 > > grub references partitions numbering from 1 > > > > So the first partition on the first disk would be hd0,msdos1. (also > > hd0,1 - doesn't matter) > > The third partition on a second disk would be hd1,msdos3 > > > > So now you can create two menu entries, one for each partition: Give them > > different names - like this - menuentry "Windows msdos1" > > > >> > >> > >> > >> PS: What is supposed to happen ? Where and When am I to make the choice > >> to > >> boot the win10 vs Qubes . > > > > When you start the machine you will see the grub menu - It should > > contain a menu (obviously) with entries for Qubes, and the two entries > > you have just created. > > You can press up and down keys to move up and down the entries - > > Pressing enter will try to boot with the highlighted entry. > > (There are instructions under the menu) > > > > And when one does : > > sudo grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg > > Should one be seeing something lie 'found windows .img" image or does > it matter ? > > I'm seeing nothing when I run grub2-mkconfig and also nothing > > with any of my entries at boot using both suggested versions of > the 'entry/stanza's' in /etc/grub.d/40_custom > > > I'm sort of doubting its supposed to be /etc/grub.d/40_custom, with > the comma at the end, and the docs have a typo ? doesn't matter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ee7cf850-54c7-477c-9cb0-f364fd4c9232%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
#! bin/sh -e echo "add win10">&2 catsudo grub2-mkconfig win10 I didn't realize I could search and adapt "fedora grub2-mkconfig" for win7 another time consuming kludge, esp. after getting lucky, that I guess it wasn't an EFI win10 install , IMHO, someone Might update the qubes docs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/f8b58e7d-4f3d-8c24-2c27-22499bf05fe0%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On 07/01/2017 02:46 PM, Unman wrote: On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 12:49:59PM -1000, yreb-qusw wrote: On 07/01/2017 12:10 PM, Unman wrote: Nothing will go wrong if you get the partition specification wrong - Windows wont boot and you will see an error message. From what you have said you have two options: msdos1 and msdos2. In grub partitions are numbered starting from 1, so these can be referenced as hd0,msdos1 and hd0,msdos2. Just create two entries, one for each partition, and try to boot: if the first fails, reboot and choose the second. I'd be happy to if I had a clue what that means like what ? menuentry "Windows" { insmod part_msdos insmod ntldr insmod ntfs ntldr (hd0,msdos1)/bootmgr } menuentry "Windows" { insmod part_msdos insmod ntldr insmod ntfs ntldr (hd1,1)/bootmgr } Again, lets say it might be hd0 it might be hd1 , it might be partition msdos1 msdos2 or ? should it just be labeled 1 or 2 then I would put in 4 entries or reboot and just keep guessing on the format No need to guess: grub references disks numbering from 0 grub references partitions numbering from 1 So the first partition on the first disk would be hd0,msdos1. (also hd0,1 - doesn't matter) The third partition on a second disk would be hd1,msdos3 So now you can create two menu entries, one for each partition: Give them different names - like this - menuentry "Windows msdos1" PS: What is supposed to happen ? Where and When am I to make the choice to boot the win10 vs Qubes . When you start the machine you will see the grub menu - It should contain a menu (obviously) with entries for Qubes, and the two entries you have just created. You can press up and down keys to move up and down the entries - Pressing enter will try to boot with the highlighted entry. (There are instructions under the menu) And when one does : sudo grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg Should one be seeing something lie 'found windows .img" image or does it matter ? I'm seeing nothing when I run grub2-mkconfig and also nothing with any of my entries at boot using both suggested versions of the 'entry/stanza's' in /etc/grub.d/40_custom I'm sort of doubting its supposed to be /etc/grub.d/40_custom, with the comma at the end, and the docs have a typo ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7f0e91e5-c082-0333-0c1b-2585faa7efe7%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 2:07:51 PM UTC-4, yreb-qusw wrote: > On 06/28/2017 04:03 PM, cooloutac wrote: > > so you would put hd0,X X= 1 2 or 3 etc... you said it was 200mb right so > > just look for something around that in kb's. probably the smallest > > partition it should say file type too no? ntfs. > > > > In general, what would happen if I guessed wrong with the 1, 2, 3 > etc > > > It should be file type NTFS not ext3 ?? windows is ntfs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/93788fa8-5e18-4149-bfb3-5655016ab4db%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 12:49:59PM -1000, yreb-qusw wrote: > On 07/01/2017 12:10 PM, Unman wrote: > > Nothing will go wrong if you get the partition specification wrong - > > Windows wont boot and you will see an error message. > > From what you have said you have two options: msdos1 and msdos2. > > In grub partitions are numbered starting from 1, so these can be > > referenced as hd0,msdos1 and hd0,msdos2. > > Just create two entries, one for each partition, and try to boot: if > > the first fails, reboot and choose the second. > > > > I'd be happy to if I had a clue what that means like what ? > > > > menuentry "Windows" { > insmod part_msdos > insmod ntldr > insmod ntfs > ntldr (hd0,msdos1)/bootmgr > } > > > menuentry "Windows" { > insmod part_msdos > insmod ntldr > insmod ntfs > ntldr (hd1,1)/bootmgr > } > > > > Again, lets say it might be hd0 it might be hd1 , it might be partition > msdos1 msdos2 or ? should it just be labeled 1 or 2 > > then I would put in 4 entries or reboot and just keep guessing on the format > No need to guess: grub references disks numbering from 0 grub references partitions numbering from 1 So the first partition on the first disk would be hd0,msdos1. (also hd0,1 - doesn't matter) The third partition on a second disk would be hd1,msdos3 So now you can create two menu entries, one for each partition: Give them different names - like this - menuentry "Windows msdos1" > > > > PS: What is supposed to happen ? Where and When am I to make the choice to > boot the win10 vs Qubes . When you start the machine you will see the grub menu - It should contain a menu (obviously) with entries for Qubes, and the two entries you have just created. You can press up and down keys to move up and down the entries - Pressing enter will try to boot with the highlighted entry. (There are instructions under the menu) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20170702004621.sajrnxj7cqht6o6z%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 12:33:31PM -1000, yreb-qusw wrote: > On 07/01/2017 12:10 PM, Unman wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 10:05:36AM -1000, yreb-qusw wrote: > > > On 06/28/2017 04:03 PM, cooloutac wrote: > > > > so you would put hd0,X X= 1 2 or 3 etc... you said it was 200mb > > > > right so just look for something around that in kb's. probably the > > > > smallest partition it should say file type too no? ntfs. > > > > > > > > > > actualy this is from the qubes doc's not me > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Identify the Windows system partition that has /bootmgr > > > > > > In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM > > > RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size > > > -- > > > > > > > > > ntldr (hd0,msdos2)/bootmgr ? > > > > > > or > > > > > > ntldr (hd0,2)/bootmgr ? > > > > > > > > > I would think it would be the 1st partitions when it comes to booting. > > > > > > > > > Is it possible my boot partition for win10 got overwritten when > > > installing Qubes somehow ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I should give up , as by the slow/no responses, it seems there > > > is > > > no way to get support for this > > > > > > > As far as I can see a number of people have tried to help you here > > You should read the guidelines at www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists and > > be patient. > > Also, a two minute search on the net would bring you to guides that > > would enable you to learn something about grub and maybe solve the problem > > for > > yourself. > > > > On the specific points: > > I doubt that your Win10 boot partition got overwritten , unless you > > asked the installer to do so. > > It is possible to run Windows without a SYSTEM partition, particularly if > > installed in BIOS mode - it is, however, not standard. > > fdisk -l shows you which partition has been marked as bootable - this > > need not be the partition you want. It need not be the first partition. > > Nothing will go wrong if you get the partition specification wrong - > > Windows wont boot and you will see an error message. > > From what you have said you have two options: msdos1 and msdos2. > > In grub partitions are numbered starting from 1, so these can be > > referenced as hd0,msdos1 and hd0,msdos2. > > Just create two entries, one for each partition, and try to boot: if > > the first fails, reboot and choose the second. > > > > Incidentally, its relatively simple to enable legacy boot on InsydeH20 - > > again, a simple search would show you how. > > Unless someone did this for you it's most likely that you are in UEFI > > mode. You can check this in Linux by looking at the output from dmesg, > > and looking for "efi" entries - 'dmesg|grep efi' > > Also,look in /sys/firmware for efi directory. If it's there then you > > booted UEFI. > > The partition layout you have described doesn't seem to be standard for > > Windows under UEFI. > > > > It isn't clear if you read the documentation before installing Qubes, or > > if you have a back up or cloned disk. If you didn't I would do it now > > before trying anything else. You can attach the NTFS partitions to a qube > > and copy the data off, or clone the whole partition. > > > > Good luck. > > > I appreciate your replies, I'm not a sysadmin, enabled legacy boot , i > only vaguely understand that that is requird for Qubes, anyway, i've got > qubes installed, it's just acting different than on my desktop version > is, > > I don't expect any replies, just hoping for more than 1 or 2 , hence I > asked about the IRC, but I'm guessing that isn't well attended also > > forgive me , for asking , it really isn't "a two minute" search it is that > Grub and such are complicated for non sysadmin people > > > just for the record, I would think Qubes might like to have normal non > sysadmin people able to use the OS, so my questions to the list, my serve > those people, > > The format of post and wait days or never for a reply may not be ideal > for anything complicated IMHO > > anyway, thanks for listening > Actually, normal, non sysadmin people CAN use the OS for the most part - the installation process can be problematic and even seasoned users can find multiboot setups difficult. I would never recommend that - perhaps the "multiboot" page should carry that warning. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20170702002615.pkozu3vfrhmqfwlf%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On 07/01/2017 12:10 PM, Unman wrote: Nothing will go wrong if you get the partition specification wrong - Windows wont boot and you will see an error message. From what you have said you have two options: msdos1 and msdos2. In grub partitions are numbered starting from 1, so these can be referenced as hd0,msdos1 and hd0,msdos2. Just create two entries, one for each partition, and try to boot: if the first fails, reboot and choose the second. again fwiw this is what the https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ says: - In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size Add this stanza to /etc/grub.d/40_custom, menuentry "Windows" { insmod part_msdos insmod ntldr insmod ntfs ntldr (hd1,X)/bootmgr } (Change X to reflect the relevant system partition.) Then update the grub config: sudo grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg There is no need to reinstall grub itself. If the above stanza does not work, you may try this one (at your own risk!) instead: menuentry "Windows" { insmod part_msdos insmod ntfs set root='(hd0,msdosX)' chainloader +1 } (Change X to reflect the relevant system partition.) -- see the part "at your own risk!" ..hence, I'm cautious as for "making two entries" I'd be happy to if I had a clue what that means like what ? menuentry "Windows" { insmod part_msdos insmod ntldr insmod ntfs ntldr (hd0,msdos1)/bootmgr } menuentry "Windows" { insmod part_msdos insmod ntldr insmod ntfs ntldr (hd1,1)/bootmgr } Again, lets say it might be hd0 it might be hd1 , it might be partition msdos1 msdos2 or ? should it just be labeled 1 or 2 then I would put in 4 entries or reboot and just keep guessing on the format PS: What is supposed to happen ? Where and When am I to make the choice to boot the win10 vs Qubes . I have been waiting over a week, I don't 'expect' an answer I am already trying different stanza entries so far no success PPS: I've "cc'd the list" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/586fdc5c-5a76-3dad-c8e8-2b15ac319da4%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On 07/01/2017 12:10 PM, Unman wrote: and looking for "efi" entries - 'dmesg|grep efi' Also,look in /sys/firmware for efi directory. If it's there then you booted UEFI. fwiw, neither of these indicates EFI boot so, are you saying Legacy boot might fix something ? frankly, I am not even sure what behaviour to expect, if I did get grub2 with the right boot partition Would I see something when I boot in Grub that gives me a choice to boot win10 or Qubes, is there a choice that pops up in Grub or ? I'm sure this all makes sense to long term linux sysadmins... eg I also noticed with I do qvm-shutdown --all it seems to shutdown dom0 and freeze the computer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/aa31eaa2-e611-05f5-d38d-c0b0aaf7eb0a%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On 07/01/2017 12:10 PM, Unman wrote: On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 10:05:36AM -1000, yreb-qusw wrote: On 06/28/2017 04:03 PM, cooloutac wrote: so you would put hd0,X X= 1 2 or 3 etc... you said it was 200mb right so just look for something around that in kb's. probably the smallest partition it should say file type too no? ntfs. actualy this is from the qubes doc's not me -- Identify the Windows system partition that has /bootmgr In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size -- ntldr (hd0,msdos2)/bootmgr ? or ntldr (hd0,2)/bootmgr ? I would think it would be the 1st partitions when it comes to booting. Is it possible my boot partition for win10 got overwritten when installing Qubes somehow ? Maybe I should give up , as by the slow/no responses, it seems there is no way to get support for this As far as I can see a number of people have tried to help you here You should read the guidelines at www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists and be patient. Also, a two minute search on the net would bring you to guides that would enable you to learn something about grub and maybe solve the problem for yourself. On the specific points: I doubt that your Win10 boot partition got overwritten , unless you asked the installer to do so. It is possible to run Windows without a SYSTEM partition, particularly if installed in BIOS mode - it is, however, not standard. fdisk -l shows you which partition has been marked as bootable - this need not be the partition you want. It need not be the first partition. Nothing will go wrong if you get the partition specification wrong - Windows wont boot and you will see an error message. From what you have said you have two options: msdos1 and msdos2. In grub partitions are numbered starting from 1, so these can be referenced as hd0,msdos1 and hd0,msdos2. Just create two entries, one for each partition, and try to boot: if the first fails, reboot and choose the second. Incidentally, its relatively simple to enable legacy boot on InsydeH20 - again, a simple search would show you how. Unless someone did this for you it's most likely that you are in UEFI mode. You can check this in Linux by looking at the output from dmesg, and looking for "efi" entries - 'dmesg|grep efi' Also,look in /sys/firmware for efi directory. If it's there then you booted UEFI. The partition layout you have described doesn't seem to be standard for Windows under UEFI. It isn't clear if you read the documentation before installing Qubes, or if you have a back up or cloned disk. If you didn't I would do it now before trying anything else. You can attach the NTFS partitions to a qube and copy the data off, or clone the whole partition. Good luck. I appreciate your replies, I'm not a sysadmin, enabled legacy boot , i only vaguely understand that that is requird for Qubes, anyway, i've got qubes installed, it's just acting different than on my desktop version is, I don't expect any replies, just hoping for more than 1 or 2 , hence I asked about the IRC, but I'm guessing that isn't well attended also forgive me , for asking , it really isn't "a two minute" search it is that Grub and such are complicated for non sysadmin people just for the record, I would think Qubes might like to have normal non sysadmin people able to use the OS, so my questions to the list, my serve those people, The format of post and wait days or never for a reply may not be ideal for anything complicated IMHO anyway, thanks for listening -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/db6942e9-4094-dbd4-d955-ffa098e2ea28%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 10:05:36AM -1000, yreb-qusw wrote: > On 06/28/2017 04:03 PM, cooloutac wrote: > > so you would put hd0,X X= 1 2 or 3 etc... you said it was 200mb right so > > just look for something around that in kb's. probably the smallest > > partition it should say file type too no? ntfs. > > > > actualy this is from the qubes doc's not me > > > -- > Identify the Windows system partition that has /bootmgr > > In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM > RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size > -- > > > ntldr (hd0,msdos2)/bootmgr ? > > or > > ntldr (hd0,2)/bootmgr ? > > > I would think it would be the 1st partitions when it comes to booting. > > > Is it possible my boot partition for win10 got overwritten when > installing Qubes somehow ? > > > > Maybe I should give up , as by the slow/no responses, it seems there is > no way to get support for this > As far as I can see a number of people have tried to help you here You should read the guidelines at www.qubes-os.org/mailing-lists and be patient. Also, a two minute search on the net would bring you to guides that would enable you to learn something about grub and maybe solve the problem for yourself. On the specific points: I doubt that your Win10 boot partition got overwritten , unless you asked the installer to do so. It is possible to run Windows without a SYSTEM partition, particularly if installed in BIOS mode - it is, however, not standard. fdisk -l shows you which partition has been marked as bootable - this need not be the partition you want. It need not be the first partition. Nothing will go wrong if you get the partition specification wrong - Windows wont boot and you will see an error message. >From what you have said you have two options: msdos1 and msdos2. In grub partitions are numbered starting from 1, so these can be referenced as hd0,msdos1 and hd0,msdos2. Just create two entries, one for each partition, and try to boot: if the first fails, reboot and choose the second. Incidentally, its relatively simple to enable legacy boot on InsydeH20 - again, a simple search would show you how. Unless someone did this for you it's most likely that you are in UEFI mode. You can check this in Linux by looking at the output from dmesg, and looking for "efi" entries - 'dmesg|grep efi' Also,look in /sys/firmware for efi directory. If it's there then you booted UEFI. The partition layout you have described doesn't seem to be standard for Windows under UEFI. It isn't clear if you read the documentation before installing Qubes, or if you have a back up or cloned disk. If you didn't I would do it now before trying anything else. You can attach the NTFS partitions to a qube and copy the data off, or clone the whole partition. Good luck. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20170701221027.axskrptkphp4iilv%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On 06/28/2017 04:03 PM, cooloutac wrote: so you would put hd0,X X= 1 2 or 3 etc... you said it was 200mb right so just look for something around that in kb's. probably the smallest partition it should say file type too no? ntfs. actually in the docs maybe instead they should recommmend sudo fdisk -l cause that Does show the boot partition /dev/sda2 however I'm left still not knowing how to write the 'stanza' -- menuentry "Windows" { insmod part_msdos insmod ntldr insmod ntfs ntldr (hd1,X)/bootmgr } -- https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ eg in my case ? ntldr (hd1,2)/bootmgr ? or ntldr (hd0,2)/bootmgr etc sigh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1fa64476-f887-290c-6873-f4d67123c9b3%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On 06/28/2017 04:03 PM, cooloutac wrote: so you would put hd0,X X= 1 2 or 3 etc... you said it was 200mb right so just look for something around that in kb's. probably the smallest partition it should say file type too no? ntfs. actualy this is from the qubes doc's not me -- Identify the Windows system partition that has /bootmgr In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size -- ntldr (hd0,msdos2)/bootmgr ? or ntldr (hd0,2)/bootmgr ? I would think it would be the 1st partitions when it comes to booting. Is it possible my boot partition for win10 got overwritten when installing Qubes somehow ? Maybe I should give up , as by the slow/no responses, it seems there is no way to get support for this -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7fa47e67-87d4-7fb2-55e9-2642d53e97e1%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On 06/28/2017 04:03 PM, cooloutac wrote: so you would put hd0,X X= 1 2 or 3 etc... you said it was 200mb right so just look for something around that in kb's. probably the smallest partition it should say file type too no? ntfs. In general, what would happen if I guessed wrong with the 1, 2, 3 etc It should be file type NTFS not ext3 ?? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/9eb0c954-989f-b248-fa8e-9d99b72e4504%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On 06/28/2017 05:17 PM, yreb-qusw wrote: On 06/28/2017 04:03 PM, cooloutac wrote: so you would put hd0,X X= 1 2 or 3 etc... you said it was 200mb right so just look for something around that in kb's. probably the smallest partition it should say file type too no? ntfs. well since I haven't a clue which one it may be, I suspect I will ruin both systems qubes and win10 msdos3 seems to be the smallest, would the boot partition be on msdos3 ? doesn't seem right, I thought boot partitions were usually the 1st partition, it also says it is NOT NTFS it is ext3 should fdisk not work at the grub> prompt ? Whoops I forgot to "cc the list" in the off chance, I could get some more support. Is there any other place for support maybe on one of the IRC channels, do folks really ask and answer timely questions there ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c90bedb4-e8ee-870d-c751-b6ae16b84a21%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
so you would put hd0,X X= 1 2 or 3 etc... you said it was 200mb right so just look for something around that in kb's. probably the smallest partition it should say file type too no? ntfs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/7b64ca88-0e8f-493b-8b68-e989cdfcda10%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On Wednesday, June 28, 2017 at 2:11:51 PM UTC-4, yreb-qusw wrote: > On 06/26/2017 05:11 PM, cooloutac wrote: > > On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 2:21:02 PM UTC-4, yreb-qusw wrote: > >> On 06/25/2017 06:16 AM, yreb-qusw wrote: > >>> On 06/24/2017 11:52 PM, Alchemist wrote: > On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 7:09:32 PM UTC-7, yreb-qusw wrote: > > Hello, so I have win10 on the 1st 2 partitions of my SSD, and install > > Qubes 3.2 onto the empty partition/s after the win10 installation. > > > > However, looking in my InsydeH20 BIOS, I am given no option to select a > > win10 vs. Qubes boot. Only "notebook HD", "USB" etc. > > > > Perhaps my mistake for thinking the laptop BIOS might function the way > > the ASrock BIOS, does, which does give me a choice. > > > > So, Now the "notebook" option just boots Qubes,Can I still boot > > Win10 on the other , 1st, partitions? > > > > if so, how ? > > > > thx > > What you want to do is install Windows first and then install Qubes, > you want to edit GRUB so you can boot Windows from GRUB. > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ > > >>> > >>> thanks, so if I got Qubes installed and up and running, does this mean > >>> my Bios is in "legacy mode" already? As I don't really see an option in > >>> the INSYDEH20 Bios to enable Legacy mode. > >>> > >>> re: > >>> -- > >>> > >>> > >>> Add this stanza to /etc/grub.d/40_custom, > >>> > >>> menuentry "Windows" { > >>> insmod part_msdos > >>> insmod ntldr > >>> insmod ntfs > >>> ntldr (hd1,X)/bootmgr > >>> } > >>> > >>> (Change X to reflect the relevant system partition.) > >>> -- > >>> > >>> What would be an example of what goes in "X" ? > >> > >> FURTHER, > >> > >> re: > >> -- > >> > >> > >> Identify the Windows system partition that has /bootmgr > >> > >> In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM > >> RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size > >> -- > >> > >> I seem not such partition, what I do see is : > >> /dev/sda1: LABEL="DATA" UUID=" foo " TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="bdefoo-01" > >> > >> nothing with a LABEL='SYSTEM' not "SYSTEM" :) > > > > run fdisk from grub and try to identify it there. which will also be > > labeled in same format you need I believe. > > > > OK, so, I pressed 'e' during boot -grub and got to grub> when I > type fdisk I get 'error: can't find the command 'fdisk' > > however if I type ls I see > Device hd0: No known filesystem detected - Sector Size 512B -Total size > 244198584Kib THEN: > > 4 Partitions all labeled hd0, after hd0 they are hd0,msdos1 msdos2 > msdos 3 msdos5 > > the 'Data' one is msdos1 409600KiB that I guess is the same 'Data' > partition > > msdos2 has filesystem ntfs 185764864KiB > > msdos3 is filesystem ext* size 512000KiB > > msdos5 says no known filesystem > IIRC: Win10 has like a recovery partition ? > > > > Based on the above what would be my best chance-guess to try the grub > 'stanza' ? > > ntldr (hd0,msdos2)/bootmgr ? > > or > > ntldr (hd0,2)/bootmgr ? > > > Thanks in advance look for the one is the size of that windows boot partition you mentioned earlier. Then when you make the 40_custom file in grub.d directory like was mentioned earlier. For whatever msdos1 msdos2 is when you list them. you put in 1 2 or 3 etc... as explained earlier. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1c41e56d-cbdc-432c-a627-76d74e147dfb%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 11:17:02 PM UTC-4, yreb-qusw wrote: > On 06/26/2017 05:11 PM, cooloutac wrote: > > On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 2:21:02 PM UTC-4, yreb-qusw wrote: > >> On 06/25/2017 06:16 AM, yreb-qusw wrote: > >>> On 06/24/2017 11:52 PM, Alchemist wrote: > On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 7:09:32 PM UTC-7, yreb-qusw wrote: > > Hello, so I have win10 on the 1st 2 partitions of my SSD, and install > > Qubes 3.2 onto the empty partition/s after the win10 installation. > > > > However, looking in my InsydeH20 BIOS, I am given no option to select a > > win10 vs. Qubes boot. Only "notebook HD", "USB" etc. > > > > Perhaps my mistake for thinking the laptop BIOS might function the way > > the ASrock BIOS, does, which does give me a choice. > > > > So, Now the "notebook" option just boots Qubes,Can I still boot > > Win10 on the other , 1st, partitions? > > > > if so, how ? > > > > thx > > What you want to do is install Windows first and then install Qubes, > you want to edit GRUB so you can boot Windows from GRUB. > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ > > >>> > >>> thanks, so if I got Qubes installed and up and running, does this mean > >>> my Bios is in "legacy mode" already? As I don't really see an option in > >>> the INSYDEH20 Bios to enable Legacy mode. > >>> > >>> re: > >>> -- > >>> > >>> > >>> Add this stanza to /etc/grub.d/40_custom, > >>> > >>> menuentry "Windows" { > >>> insmod part_msdos > >>> insmod ntldr > >>> insmod ntfs > >>> ntldr (hd1,X)/bootmgr > >>> } > >>> > >>> (Change X to reflect the relevant system partition.) > >>> -- > >>> > >>> What would be an example of what goes in "X" ? > >> > >> FURTHER, > >> > >> re: > >> -- > >> > >> > >> Identify the Windows system partition that has /bootmgr > >> > >> In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM > >> RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size > >> -- > >> > >> I seem not such partition, what I do see is : > >> /dev/sda1: LABEL="DATA" UUID=" foo " TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="bdefoo-01" > >> > >> nothing with a LABEL='SYSTEM' not "SYSTEM" :) > > > > run fdisk from grub and try to identify it there. which will also be > > labeled in same format you need I believe. > > > > thx, and for that matter, how do I get to command line in grub ? tab? > esc ? > > sorry if this is basic e, I think. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/4a8146e9-b732-42f1-a5c1-a8aace3ef879%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 11:14:33 PM UTC-4, yreb-qusw wrote: > On 06/26/2017 05:11 PM, cooloutac wrote: > > On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 2:21:02 PM UTC-4, yreb-qusw wrote: > >> On 06/25/2017 06:16 AM, yreb-qusw wrote: > >>> On 06/24/2017 11:52 PM, Alchemist wrote: > On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 7:09:32 PM UTC-7, yreb-qusw wrote: > > Hello, so I have win10 on the 1st 2 partitions of my SSD, and install > > Qubes 3.2 onto the empty partition/s after the win10 installation. > > > > However, looking in my InsydeH20 BIOS, I am given no option to select a > > win10 vs. Qubes boot. Only "notebook HD", "USB" etc. > > > > Perhaps my mistake for thinking the laptop BIOS might function the way > > the ASrock BIOS, does, which does give me a choice. > > > > So, Now the "notebook" option just boots Qubes,Can I still boot > > Win10 on the other , 1st, partitions? > > > > if so, how ? > > > > thx > > What you want to do is install Windows first and then install Qubes, > you want to edit GRUB so you can boot Windows from GRUB. > > https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ > > >>> > >>> thanks, so if I got Qubes installed and up and running, does this mean > >>> my Bios is in "legacy mode" already? As I don't really see an option in > >>> the INSYDEH20 Bios to enable Legacy mode. > >>> > >>> re: > >>> -- > >>> > >>> > >>> Add this stanza to /etc/grub.d/40_custom, > >>> > >>> menuentry "Windows" { > >>> insmod part_msdos > >>> insmod ntldr > >>> insmod ntfs > >>> ntldr (hd1,X)/bootmgr > >>> } > >>> > >>> (Change X to reflect the relevant system partition.) > >>> -- > >>> > >>> What would be an example of what goes in "X" ? > >> > >> FURTHER, > >> > >> re: > >> -- > >> > >> > >> Identify the Windows system partition that has /bootmgr > >> > >> In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM > >> RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size > >> -- > >> > >> I seem not such partition, what I do see is : > >> /dev/sda1: LABEL="DATA" UUID=" foo " TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="bdefoo-01" > >> > >> nothing with a LABEL='SYSTEM' not "SYSTEM" :) > > > > run fdisk from grub and try to identify it there. which will also be > > labeled in same format you need I believe. > > > > Should I have a file named 40_custom in grub.d dir ? there are No > files in that dir. > > Happen to have an example of the > > >>> ntldr (hd1,X)/bootmgr > >>> } > >>> > >>> (Change X to reflect the relevant system partition.) > > suggestion? I really dont want to input the wrong 'stanza' yes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/cb3979c7-58a5-4e10-bd35-8e2c813fa89a%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On 06/26/2017 05:11 PM, cooloutac wrote: On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 2:21:02 PM UTC-4, yreb-qusw wrote: On 06/25/2017 06:16 AM, yreb-qusw wrote: On 06/24/2017 11:52 PM, Alchemist wrote: On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 7:09:32 PM UTC-7, yreb-qusw wrote: Hello, so I have win10 on the 1st 2 partitions of my SSD, and install Qubes 3.2 onto the empty partition/s after the win10 installation. However, looking in my InsydeH20 BIOS, I am given no option to select a win10 vs. Qubes boot. Only "notebook HD", "USB" etc. Perhaps my mistake for thinking the laptop BIOS might function the way the ASrock BIOS, does, which does give me a choice. So, Now the "notebook" option just boots Qubes,Can I still boot Win10 on the other , 1st, partitions? if so, how ? thx What you want to do is install Windows first and then install Qubes, you want to edit GRUB so you can boot Windows from GRUB. https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ thanks, so if I got Qubes installed and up and running, does this mean my Bios is in "legacy mode" already? As I don't really see an option in the INSYDEH20 Bios to enable Legacy mode. re: -- Add this stanza to /etc/grub.d/40_custom, menuentry "Windows" { insmod part_msdos insmod ntldr insmod ntfs ntldr (hd1,X)/bootmgr } (Change X to reflect the relevant system partition.) -- What would be an example of what goes in "X" ? FURTHER, re: -- Identify the Windows system partition that has /bootmgr In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size -- I seem not such partition, what I do see is : /dev/sda1: LABEL="DATA" UUID=" foo " TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="bdefoo-01" nothing with a LABEL='SYSTEM' not "SYSTEM" :) run fdisk from grub and try to identify it there. which will also be labeled in same format you need I believe. thx, and for that matter, how do I get to command line in grub ? tab? esc ? sorry if this is basic -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c5240e75-754e-af7a-f23e-8cfeeb0afc26%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On 06/26/2017 05:11 PM, cooloutac wrote: On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 2:21:02 PM UTC-4, yreb-qusw wrote: On 06/25/2017 06:16 AM, yreb-qusw wrote: On 06/24/2017 11:52 PM, Alchemist wrote: On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 7:09:32 PM UTC-7, yreb-qusw wrote: Hello, so I have win10 on the 1st 2 partitions of my SSD, and install Qubes 3.2 onto the empty partition/s after the win10 installation. However, looking in my InsydeH20 BIOS, I am given no option to select a win10 vs. Qubes boot. Only "notebook HD", "USB" etc. Perhaps my mistake for thinking the laptop BIOS might function the way the ASrock BIOS, does, which does give me a choice. So, Now the "notebook" option just boots Qubes,Can I still boot Win10 on the other , 1st, partitions? if so, how ? thx What you want to do is install Windows first and then install Qubes, you want to edit GRUB so you can boot Windows from GRUB. https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ thanks, so if I got Qubes installed and up and running, does this mean my Bios is in "legacy mode" already? As I don't really see an option in the INSYDEH20 Bios to enable Legacy mode. re: -- Add this stanza to /etc/grub.d/40_custom, menuentry "Windows" { insmod part_msdos insmod ntldr insmod ntfs ntldr (hd1,X)/bootmgr } (Change X to reflect the relevant system partition.) -- What would be an example of what goes in "X" ? FURTHER, re: -- Identify the Windows system partition that has /bootmgr In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size -- I seem not such partition, what I do see is : /dev/sda1: LABEL="DATA" UUID=" foo " TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="bdefoo-01" nothing with a LABEL='SYSTEM' not "SYSTEM" :) run fdisk from grub and try to identify it there. which will also be labeled in same format you need I believe. Should I have a file named 40_custom in grub.d dir ? there are No files in that dir. Happen to have an example of the >>> ntldr (hd1,X)/bootmgr >>> } >>> >>> (Change X to reflect the relevant system partition.) suggestion? I really dont want to input the wrong 'stanza' -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/e3a7aa45-124a-f12c-90ad-df8bbf311cbe%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 2:21:02 PM UTC-4, yreb-qusw wrote: > On 06/25/2017 06:16 AM, yreb-qusw wrote: > > On 06/24/2017 11:52 PM, Alchemist wrote: > >> On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 7:09:32 PM UTC-7, yreb-qusw wrote: > >>> Hello, so I have win10 on the 1st 2 partitions of my SSD, and install > >>> Qubes 3.2 onto the empty partition/s after the win10 installation. > >>> > >>> However, looking in my InsydeH20 BIOS, I am given no option to select a > >>> win10 vs. Qubes boot. Only "notebook HD", "USB" etc. > >>> > >>> Perhaps my mistake for thinking the laptop BIOS might function the way > >>> the ASrock BIOS, does, which does give me a choice. > >>> > >>> So, Now the "notebook" option just boots Qubes,Can I still boot > >>> Win10 on the other , 1st, partitions? > >>> > >>> if so, how ? > >>> > >>> thx > >> > >> What you want to do is install Windows first and then install Qubes, > >> you want to edit GRUB so you can boot Windows from GRUB. > >> > >> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ > >> > > > > thanks, so if I got Qubes installed and up and running, does this mean > > my Bios is in "legacy mode" already? As I don't really see an option in > > the INSYDEH20 Bios to enable Legacy mode. > > > > re: > > -- > > > > > > Add this stanza to /etc/grub.d/40_custom, > > > > menuentry "Windows" { > > insmod part_msdos > > insmod ntldr > > insmod ntfs > > ntldr (hd1,X)/bootmgr > > } > > > > (Change X to reflect the relevant system partition.) > > -- > > > > What would be an example of what goes in "X" ? > > FURTHER, > > re: > -- > > > Identify the Windows system partition that has /bootmgr > > In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM > RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size > -- > > I seem not such partition, what I do see is : > /dev/sda1: LABEL="DATA" UUID=" foo " TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="bdefoo-01" > > nothing with a LABEL='SYSTEM' not "SYSTEM" :) run fdisk from grub and try to identify it there. which will also be labeled in same format you need I believe. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/bbf8b4ee-7758-49e3-8d16-1cbf391043c1%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On 06/25/2017 06:16 AM, yreb-qusw wrote: On 06/24/2017 11:52 PM, Alchemist wrote: On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 7:09:32 PM UTC-7, yreb-qusw wrote: Hello, so I have win10 on the 1st 2 partitions of my SSD, and install Qubes 3.2 onto the empty partition/s after the win10 installation. However, looking in my InsydeH20 BIOS, I am given no option to select a win10 vs. Qubes boot. Only "notebook HD", "USB" etc. Perhaps my mistake for thinking the laptop BIOS might function the way the ASrock BIOS, does, which does give me a choice. So, Now the "notebook" option just boots Qubes,Can I still boot Win10 on the other , 1st, partitions? if so, how ? thx What you want to do is install Windows first and then install Qubes, you want to edit GRUB so you can boot Windows from GRUB. https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ thanks, so if I got Qubes installed and up and running, does this mean my Bios is in "legacy mode" already? As I don't really see an option in the INSYDEH20 Bios to enable Legacy mode. re: -- Add this stanza to /etc/grub.d/40_custom, menuentry "Windows" { insmod part_msdos insmod ntldr insmod ntfs ntldr (hd1,X)/bootmgr } (Change X to reflect the relevant system partition.) -- What would be an example of what goes in "X" ? FURTHER, re: -- Identify the Windows system partition that has /bootmgr In blkid output, the system partition is the one with LABEL=’SYSTEM RESERVED’ or LABEL=’SYSTEM’ and is only about 100 to 200 MB in size -- I seem not such partition, what I do see is : /dev/sda1: LABEL="DATA" UUID=" foo " TYPE="ntfs" PARTUUID="bdefoo-01" nothing with a LABEL='SYSTEM' not "SYSTEM" :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/da22064e-9394-4ba9-e6c3-76d2863eb50e%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On 06/25/2017 06:16 AM, yreb-qusw wrote: On 06/24/2017 11:52 PM, Alchemist wrote: On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 7:09:32 PM UTC-7, yreb-qusw wrote: Hello, so I have win10 on the 1st 2 partitions of my SSD, and install Qubes 3.2 onto the empty partition/s after the win10 installation. However, looking in my InsydeH20 BIOS, I am given no option to select a win10 vs. Qubes boot. Only "notebook HD", "USB" etc. Perhaps my mistake for thinking the laptop BIOS might function the way the ASrock BIOS, does, which does give me a choice. So, Now the "notebook" option just boots Qubes,Can I still boot Win10 on the other , 1st, partitions? if so, how ? What you want to do is install Windows first and then install Qubes, you want to edit GRUB so you can boot Windows from GRUB. https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ 1) thanks, so if I got Qubes installed and up and running, does this mean my Bios is in "legacy mode" already? As I don't really see an option in the INSYDEH20 Bios to enable Legacy mode. 2) re: -- Add this stanza to /etc/grub.d/40_custom, menuentry "Windows" { insmod part_msdos insmod ntldr insmod ntfs ntldr (hd1,X)/bootmgr } (Change X to reflect the relevant system partition.) -- What would be an example of what goes in "X" ? 3) ya, sorry again, but I have no file "40_custom," am I supposed to create that file in /etc/grub.d ? (I have no files at all in grub.d as dom0 as "40_custom" ? without the comma ? :) seems a strange filename -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/98974675-cb9d-b924-dc1f-57d5d176c230%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On 06/25/2017 06:16 AM, yreb-qusw wrote: On 06/24/2017 11:52 PM, Alchemist wrote: On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 7:09:32 PM UTC-7, yreb-qusw wrote: Hello, so I have win10 on the 1st 2 partitions of my SSD, and install Qubes 3.2 onto the empty partition/s after the win10 installation. However, looking in my InsydeH20 BIOS, I am given no option to select a win10 vs. Qubes boot. Only "notebook HD", "USB" etc. Perhaps my mistake for thinking the laptop BIOS might function the way the ASrock BIOS, does, which does give me a choice. So, Now the "notebook" option just boots Qubes,Can I still boot Win10 on the other , 1st, partitions? if so, how ? thx What you want to do is install Windows first and then install Qubes, you want to edit GRUB so you can boot Windows from GRUB. https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ thanks, so if I got Qubes installed and up and running, does this mean my Bios is in "legacy mode" already? As I don't really see an option in the INSYDEH20 Bios to enable Legacy mode. re: -- Add this stanza to /etc/grub.d/40_custom, menuentry "Windows" { insmod part_msdos insmod ntldr insmod ntfs ntldr (hd1,X)/bootmgr } (Change X to reflect the relevant system partition.) -- What would be an example of what goes in "X" ? .maybe is should be sda1 ? eg menuentry "Windows" { insmod part_msdos insmod ntldr insmod ntfs ntldr (sda,1)/bootmgr } ?? withthe parentheses? really prefer not to make a bad thing worst ... :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/5d23b04f-752c-9fba-757d-02ed52a0f5b0%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On 06/24/2017 11:52 PM, Alchemist wrote: On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 7:09:32 PM UTC-7, yreb-qusw wrote: Hello, so I have win10 on the 1st 2 partitions of my SSD, and install Qubes 3.2 onto the empty partition/s after the win10 installation. However, looking in my InsydeH20 BIOS, I am given no option to select a win10 vs. Qubes boot. Only "notebook HD", "USB" etc. Perhaps my mistake for thinking the laptop BIOS might function the way the ASrock BIOS, does, which does give me a choice. So, Now the "notebook" option just boots Qubes,Can I still boot Win10 on the other , 1st, partitions? if so, how ? thx What you want to do is install Windows first and then install Qubes, you want to edit GRUB so you can boot Windows from GRUB. https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ thanks, so if I got Qubes installed and up and running, does this mean my Bios is in "legacy mode" already? As I don't really see an option in the INSYDEH20 Bios to enable Legacy mode. re: -- Add this stanza to /etc/grub.d/40_custom, menuentry "Windows" { insmod part_msdos insmod ntldr insmod ntfs ntldr (hd1,X)/bootmgr } (Change X to reflect the relevant system partition.) -- What would be an example of what goes in "X" ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/221277a8-c542-38b1-b168-ef362e517076%40riseup.net. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[qubes-users] Re: Laptop Dual Win10 boot problem
On Saturday, June 24, 2017 at 7:09:32 PM UTC-7, yreb-qusw wrote: > Hello, so I have win10 on the 1st 2 partitions of my SSD, and install > Qubes 3.2 onto the empty partition/s after the win10 installation. > > However, looking in my InsydeH20 BIOS, I am given no option to select a > win10 vs. Qubes boot. Only "notebook HD", "USB" etc. > > Perhaps my mistake for thinking the laptop BIOS might function the way > the ASrock BIOS, does, which does give me a choice. > > So, Now the "notebook" option just boots Qubes,Can I still boot > Win10 on the other , 1st, partitions? > > if so, how ? > > thx What you want to do is install Windows first and then install Qubes, you want to edit GRUB so you can boot Windows from GRUB. https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/multiboot/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/1715a92a-1db1-4168-960a-73d38ca4adb0%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.