Re: [qubes-users] dispVM shuts down immediately after starting (I'm trying to run xterm)

2018-10-15 Thread 'floasretch' via qubes-users
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On Monday, October 15, 2018 5:29 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki 
 wrote:
> You can add --pass-io, to see service stdout/stderr. Maybe this will
> give some hints.

vchan connection timeout

LOL. I changed qrexec-timeout for whonix-ws-dvm to 120 (from default of 60), 
and that fixed it.

Thanks.

A bit disturbing that 60 seconds isn't enough, though. It's a reasonably modern 
system. Intel Core i3 (Haswell generation) with 16GB RAM, and not overloaded. 
(CPU and disk are idle until I start the DVM, and not too many qubes are 
running.)

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Re: [qubes-users] dispVM shuts down immediately after starting (I'm trying to run xterm)

2018-10-15 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:19:54PM +, floasretch wrote:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Monday, October 15, 2018 4:52 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki 
>  wrote:
> 
> > > Same result with qubes.StartApp+debian-xterm
> > > Per your response, I verified that whonix-ws-dvm does have 
> > > /usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop (and whonix-ws-dvm itself 
> > > starts and runs with no problem).
> >
> > I've tried the same command on my whonix-ws-14-dvm and it works...
> > Is your whonix-ws-dvm Whonix 13, or updated to Whonix 14?
> 
> Whonix 14. Originally was 13 (installed with Qubes 4.0), then updated when 14 
> was released.
> 
> I verified /etc/whonix_version in both whonix-ws and whonix-ws-dvm. They're 
> both 14.
> 
> BTW, I haven't been using disposable VMs at all for the past couple months, 
> so I have no idea whether my problem is recent or old. In fact, the last time 
> I did was with the Fedora DVM, and I've deleted it since then. Today was the 
> first time I ever tried using any DVM other than Fedora.
> 
> Qubes and all templates are fully updated.
> 
> Is there a log somewhere?

You can add --pass-io, to see service stdout/stderr. Maybe this will
give some hints.

Alternatively, you can try doing the same in non-disposable VM, for example
whonix-ws-dvm itself. Simply drop --dispvm and add VM name before
service name, like this:
qvm-run --service -- whonix-ws-dvm qubes.StartApp+debian-xterm

And see if xterm will launch. Then, you can inspect ~/.xsession-errors
in that VM, or various logs in /var/log. If no terminal is started at
all, you can access VM console with `sudo xl console whonix-ws-dvm`
(exit with Ctrl+]).

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Re: [qubes-users] dispVM shuts down immediately after starting (I'm trying to run xterm)

2018-10-15 Thread 'floasretch' via qubes-users
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Monday, October 15, 2018 4:52 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki 
 wrote:

> > Same result with qubes.StartApp+debian-xterm
> > Per your response, I verified that whonix-ws-dvm does have 
> > /usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop (and whonix-ws-dvm itself 
> > starts and runs with no problem).
>
> I've tried the same command on my whonix-ws-14-dvm and it works...
> Is your whonix-ws-dvm Whonix 13, or updated to Whonix 14?

Whonix 14. Originally was 13 (installed with Qubes 4.0), then updated when 14 
was released.

I verified /etc/whonix_version in both whonix-ws and whonix-ws-dvm. They're 
both 14.

BTW, I haven't been using disposable VMs at all for the past couple months, so 
I have no idea whether my problem is recent or old. In fact, the last time I 
did was with the Fedora DVM, and I've deleted it since then. Today was the 
first time I ever tried using any DVM other than Fedora.

Qubes and all templates are fully updated.

Is there a log somewhere?

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Re: [qubes-users] dispVM shuts down immediately after starting (I'm trying to run xterm)

2018-10-15 Thread 'floasretch' via qubes-users
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Monday, October 15, 2018 4:52 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki 
 wrote:

> > Same result with qubes.StartApp+debian-xterm
> > Per your response, I verified that whonix-ws-dvm does have 
> > /usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop (and whonix-ws-dvm itself 
> > starts and runs with no problem).
>
> I've tried the same command on my whonix-ws-14-dvm and it works...
> Is your whonix-ws-dvm Whonix 13, or updated to Whonix 14?

Whonix 14. Originally was 13 (installed with Qubes 4.0), then updated when 14 
was released.

I verified /etc/whonix_version in both whonix-ws and whonix-ws-dvm. They're 
both 14.

BTW, I haven't been using disposable VMs at all for the past couple months, so 
I have no idea whether my problem is recent or old. In fact, the last time I 
did was with the Fedora DVM, and I've deleted it since then. Today was the 
first time I ever tried using any DVM other than Fedora.

Qubes and all templates are fully updated.

Is there a log somewhere?

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Re: [qubes-users] dispVM shuts down immediately after starting (I'm trying to run xterm)

2018-10-15 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 10:41:45PM +, floasretch wrote:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Monday, October 15, 2018 3:34 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki 
>  wrote:
> > > [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-run --verbose --autostart --dispvm=whonix-ws-dvm 
> > > --service -- qubes.StartApp+xterm
> > > Running 'qubes.StartApp+xterm' on $dispvm:whonix-ws-dvm
> > > [user@dom0 ~]$
> > > Is there a log somewhere to tell me what's going wrong?
> >
> > The +xterm part should be a base name of .desktop file in
> > /usr/share/applications (or other directory per XDG standard). xterm on
> > Debian happens to have debian-xterm.desktop, so it should be
> > qubes.StartApp+debian-xterm.
> 
> Same result with qubes.StartApp+debian-xterm
> 
> Per your response, I verified that whonix-ws-dvm does have 
> /usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop (and whonix-ws-dvm itself starts 
> and runs with no problem).

I've tried the same command on my whonix-ws-14-dvm and it works...
Is your whonix-ws-dvm Whonix 13, or updated to Whonix 14?

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Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
Invisible Things Lab
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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Re: [qubes-users] dispVM shuts down immediately after starting (I'm trying to run xterm)

2018-10-15 Thread 'floasretch' via qubes-users
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Monday, October 15, 2018 3:34 PM, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki 
 wrote:
> > [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-run --verbose --autostart --dispvm=whonix-ws-dvm 
> > --service -- qubes.StartApp+xterm
> > Running 'qubes.StartApp+xterm' on $dispvm:whonix-ws-dvm
> > [user@dom0 ~]$
> > Is there a log somewhere to tell me what's going wrong?
>
> The +xterm part should be a base name of .desktop file in
> /usr/share/applications (or other directory per XDG standard). xterm on
> Debian happens to have debian-xterm.desktop, so it should be
> qubes.StartApp+debian-xterm.

Same result with qubes.StartApp+debian-xterm

Per your response, I verified that whonix-ws-dvm does have 
/usr/share/applications/debian-xterm.desktop (and whonix-ws-dvm itself starts 
and runs with no problem).

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Re: [qubes-users] dispVM shuts down immediately after starting (I'm trying to run xterm)

2018-10-15 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 07:03:50PM +, 'floasretch' via qubes-users wrote:
> On Qubes 4.0, when I try to start a dispVM, I get a popup notice that it's 
> starting, then a popup that it started, then a popup that it halted. I get no 
> error message, even when I specify --verbose:
> 
> [user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-run --verbose --autostart --dispvm=whonix-ws-dvm --service 
> -- qubes.StartApp+xterm
> Running 'qubes.StartApp+xterm' on $dispvm:whonix-ws-dvm
> [user@dom0 ~]$
> 
> Is there a log somewhere to tell me what's going wrong?

The +xterm part should be a base name of .desktop file in
/usr/share/applications (or other directory per XDG standard). xterm on
Debian happens to have debian-xterm.desktop, so it should be
qubes.StartApp+debian-xterm.

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
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[qubes-users] dispVM shuts down immediately after starting (I'm trying to run xterm)

2018-10-15 Thread 'floasretch' via qubes-users
On Qubes 4.0, when I try to start a dispVM, I get a popup notice that it's 
starting, then a popup that it started, then a popup that it halted. I get no 
error message, even when I specify --verbose:

[user@dom0 ~]$ qvm-run --verbose --autostart --dispvm=whonix-ws-dvm --service 
-- qubes.StartApp+xterm
Running 'qubes.StartApp+xterm' on $dispvm:whonix-ws-dvm
[user@dom0 ~]$

Is there a log somewhere to tell me what's going wrong?

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