[ntp:questions] Fwd: NTP and PPS calibration interval (convergence speed)

2013-05-29 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 1:46 PM, unruh wrote: > Not really. What would be more helpful would be graphs of the behaviour, > of the offsets over time, including times when the machines are heavily > used and times when they are not. (See for example > www.theory.phsyics.ubc.ca/chrony/chrony.html and

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP and PPS calibration interval (convergence speed)

2013-05-29 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:23 AM, A C wrote: > > Are you allowing kernel discipline in the ntpd configuration? I currently > have issues with my system going crazy if too many thermal fluctuations > happen. I have kernel disabled in ntpd.conf (with a "disable kernel" > directive) but I might cons

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP and PPS calibration interval (convergence speed)

2013-05-29 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:55 AM, David Woolley wrote: > Miguel Gonçalves wrote: > >> >> For me, it is not clear why calibration occurs every 256 seconds when > > > I don't understand what you mean by this, and I don't see any evidence of a > 256 in your

[ntp:questions] NTP and PPS calibration interval (convergence speed)

2013-05-27 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi! I've read a lot about the speed of NTP when reacting to changes in temperature to in turn affect the oscillator. I am posting my findings and thoughts to the list so it becomes archived for future users in need of this information. First, let me say that I have 2 GPS receivers (Garmin 18 LVC

Re: [ntp:questions] How to determin hardware latency for PPS offset given simple tools.

2013-05-26 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Paul! On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Paul G wrote: > I have four GPS receivers into four different computers. I've assumed that I > should be able to get small offsets between them but to do so I need > to set time1. If that's the correct approach how do I pick the "right" > system to be t

[ntp:questions] ntp_adjtime and interval

2013-05-14 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi! I am trying to figure out why NTP takes so long to react to oscillator changes... When checking ntptime on startup I see that the NTP daemon is using PLL and starts the adjustment interval at 8 s. It then increases to 16, 32, 64, 128 and stops at 256. I read in the documentation that this li

[ntp:questions] NTP Stratum 1 performance

2013-05-12 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi! Just added another GPS receiver (Trimble Acutime Gold) to the group of my local NTP servers ntp2# ntpq -pn remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == *127.127.29.0.GPS.

Re: [ntp:questions] NTP and GPS

2013-05-03 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
0279280 144.696 0.43759 0.004301 4 56415 38767.327 -0.000237060 144.692 0.43570 0.004221 4 --- /var/log/ntp/loop --- What can I do to improve this? Thanks in advance for any help! Kind regards, Miguel On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:11 AM, David Woolley < david@ex.djwhome.demon.invalid

[ntp:questions] NTP and GPS

2013-04-30 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hello fellow NTP users! I have a few topics I would like to discuss with you guys. I describe my configuration first and then I wrote some questions. This is a lengthy message but I believe that some topics are interesting for other users. In my network I have 2 dedicated low powered i386 boxes w

Re: [ntp:questions] Acutime Gold GPS

2012-08-09 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Your reply and assumptions are so dumb and senseless that you don't deserve any further replies. Go live your miserable life! On 09/08/2012, at 14:57, unruh wrote: > On 2012-08-08, Miguel Barbosa Gon?alves wrote: >> Done! >> >> $ ntpq -pn tick; ntpq -pn tock >> remote refid

Re: [ntp:questions] leap second happens on...

2012-05-25 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
It happens at 23:59:59 UTC: ftp://hpiers.obspm.fr/iers/bul/bulc/bulletinc.dat The bulletin states that the leap second is introduced at the end of June so 00:00:00 is not a possibility because it is already July. HTH, Miguel On 25 May 2012 12:18, Marco Marongiu wrote: > ...on June 30th/July 1s

Re: [ntp:questions] Oncore looses PPS

2011-12-30 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 30 December 2011 07:50, pc wrote: > Hallo Miguel, > > Yes -- if TRAIM is configured in a particular way, the PPS > "pulse [is] active only when Time RAIM algorithm confirms > time solution error is within the user defined alarm limit". > > Can you poll the current TRAIM setup and status > with

[ntp:questions] Oncore looses PPS

2011-12-26 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi all! I have an Oncore UT+ and sometimes this happens... It is tracking 2 satellites and it suddenly and for some time looses the PPS tock# tail -f /var/log/ntp/clock 55921 39669.212 127.127.30.0 3533886068.93999 2011 360 11 1 9 8 rstat 08 dop 0.0 nsat 2,2 traim 1,0,1 sigma 77 neg-s

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-14 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
. > CentOS is also the best for me but only for standard servers. My NTP servers are embedded machines that run FreeBSD (NanoBSD). Cheers, Miguel -----Original Message- From: Miguel Gonçalves [mailto:m...@miguelgoncalves.com] Sent: Wednesday, 14 December 2011 12:53 AM To: Mark C. S

Re: [ntp:questions] New ntp Server

2011-12-13 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
This is exactly why I prefer FreeBSD. Isn't this an option for you? Cheers, Miguel On 13/12/2011, at 10:14, "Mark C. Stephens" wrote: > I just tried Fedora 16, its quite full of bugs from Anaconda to gnome and > everything in between! > > I understand the political reasons for making the ful

Re: [ntp:questions] Offset Jumps with Motorola Oncore UT+

2011-12-09 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Tom! Many thanks for your suggestion! I added MASK 30 to my ntp.oncore.0 file. By the way... mine is MODE 1 LAT 40 55 13.1082 LONG -8 29 36.7247 HT 319.03 M TRAIM YES DELAY 25 NS CLEAR MASK 30 HARDPPS SHMEM /etc/oncore.0 Do you suggest any other change? I clipped it by mistake. My intention

[ntp:questions] Offset Jumps with Motorola Oncore UT+

2011-12-09 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi! This morning my FreeBSD 7.4 Oncore UT+ NTP server exhibited a strange behaviour... Note the huge jump in offset from 854 ns to 596 us and then the highest offset at 159 ms. loop stats file: 55904 33539.225 0.01728 -1.282 0.00742 0.002620 4 55904 33555.225 0.01447 -1.282 0.006

Re: [ntp:questions] Linux, Garmin GPX-18X LVM & PPS

2011-12-06 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Terje! On 6 December 2011 20:34, Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"@ ntp.org> wrote: > Uwe Klein wrote: > >> Miguel Gonçalves wrote: >> >>> And once you get it working you will start buying GPS devices to add more >>> NTP servers

Re: [ntp:questions] Linux, Garmin GPX-18X LVM & PPS

2011-12-06 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 6 December 2011 18:40, Uwe Klein wrote: > Miguel Gonçalves wrote: > >> And once you get it working you will start buying GPS devices to add more >> NTP servers to your network. It's addicting! >> >> My main NTP servers are two ALIX 1D mini-IT

Re: [ntp:questions] identifying ntpd version

2011-12-06 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Michael! On 6 December 2011 18:35, Michel wrote: > > I inherited a server with ntp installed. > How can I determine the version of ntpd that is installed on this > windows system? > ntpq -c "rv 0 version" Cheers, Miguel ___ questions mailing list

Re: [ntp:questions] Linux, Garmin GPX-18X LVM & PPS

2011-12-06 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 6 December 2011 17:14, Paul Duncan wrote: > > I think it is something to do with stuff not being setup by udev. Been > doing some more reading... I will definitely make my build instructions for > Slackware 13.37 Linux available when I'm finished... I'm convinced this has > been more frustrati

Re: [ntp:questions] Linux, Garmin GPX-18X LVM & PPS

2011-12-06 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Paul! Beware: long e-mail ahead! On 6 December 2011 14:49, Paul Duncan wrote: > Hi Miguel, > > Thanks very much for getting back to me. No problem. I've been helped before so I'll do my best to help you. > > Okay, so I have mostly copied yours and this is what I am using now: > > # Modif

Re: [ntp:questions] Linux, Garmin GPX-18X LVM & PPS

2011-12-06 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Paul! On 5 December 2011 13:16, Duncan, Paul A. wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to set up an NTP server using the Garmin GPS-18 as the > reference clock. I think I'm most of the way there, but I have a couple of > questions. > I have a Garmin GPS18 running on a FreeBSD server. I believe I ca

Re: [ntp:questions] Ginormous offset and slow convergance

2011-11-30 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 30/11/2011, at 15:41, Pete Ashdown wrote: > David Woolley writes: > >> Richard B. Gilbert wrote: >>> On 11/29/2011 1:42 PM, Pete Ashdown wrote: > +time-C.timefreq .ACTS. 1 u 19 64 377 37.887 -16011. 0.122 > Is there anything I can do to decrease the con

Re: [ntp:questions] Ignore one server except in extreme conditions?

2011-11-16 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi! On 16 November 2011 16:11, A C wrote: > On 11/16/2011 00:15, Harlan Stenn wrote: > >> What sort of offset/jitter are you seeing on the NMEA signal? By >> default we expect it to be correct to about 2ms. >> > > I posted more data in another reply but the NMEA tends to have offsets of > +/- 5

Re: [ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore UT+ problems

2011-11-16 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Tom! Thanks for you help. I am getting "desperate" here... On 16 November 2011 11:58, Thomas Laus wrote: > My first guess would be that you have a hardware problem with this > particular Oncore UT+. Is your Oncore battery good? I think that the > Battery is good. Just checked. I am using

[ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore UT+ problems

2011-11-16 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi guys! Here's the problem: I have one particular Oncore UT+ receiver (2.2 firmware revision) that only works in mode 3, i.e., I need to reset it (losing the almanac) everytime I restart the NTP daemon. As you might imagine this is a major problem. If I don't use mode 3 it just hangs at 55881 3

[ntp:questions] Peering amongst S1

2011-10-24 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi! I am running the following configuration 172.16.0.1 ntp.conf: server 127.127.20.0 mode 2 prefer minpoll 3 maxpoll 3 fudge 127.127.20.0 flag1 1 flag2 0 flag3 1 flag4 1 tos mindist 0.250 peer 172.16.0.2 minpoll 3 maxpoll 3 iburst server ntp-p1.obspm.fr iburst server ptbtime1.ptb.de iburst

Re: [ntp:questions] NEW Public Stratum 1 NTP server (Portugal)

2011-10-20 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi James! On 20 October 2011 23:12, Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote: >        Hello Dave , > > On Thu, 20 Oct 2011, Dave Hart wrote: >> >> ntpq's -n option suppresses the reverse lookups, showing IP addresses >> instead.  e.g. ntpq -nc "mrulist sort=avgint" > >        Except it makes it really diff

Re: [ntp:questions] NEW Public Stratum 1 NTP server (Portugal)

2011-10-20 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Dave! 2011/10/20 Dave Hart : > Better answer:  Thanks to your report, as well as several others, I > found a bug that probably was responsible for mrulist not completing > for you.  I also added progress indication, and the ability to > interrupt the gathering and display the entries so far ret

Re: [ntp:questions] Trimble Resolution T

2011-10-17 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 17 October 2011 20:04, unruh wrote: > On 2011-10-17, Miguel Gon?alves wrote: >> The reason is that I already have one of each and want a different >> third clock. Nothing against Garmin or Sure. In fact, I highly > > How different? Do you want it depending on the same thing-- gps? Or do > you

Re: [ntp:questions] Trimble Resolution T

2011-10-17 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 17 October 2011 17:37, unruh wrote: > On 2011-10-17, Miguel Gon?alves wrote: >> Excluding the Garmins and Sure Evaluation Boards which both have PPS >> outputs what are the best (meaning well supported) refclocks today to >> set up a new server? > > Perhaps you should tell us what your require

Re: [ntp:questions] Trimble Resolution T

2011-10-17 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 17 October 2011 10:03, Hal Murray wrote: > > There is a driver that covers the Trimble Palisade and Thunderbolt. > > If you are lucky, it will work with the Resolution.  If not, it is > probably reasonable to add support for it. Excluding the Garmins and Sure Evaluation Boards which both have

Re: [ntp:questions] Trimble Resolution T

2011-10-16 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 16 October 2011 19:10, unruh wrote: > In comp.protocols.time.ntp, you wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Anyone here used a Trimble Resolution T with NTP? > > From the pictures (all of the data sheets give a java error-- why in the > world they couldn't just deliver a pdf file I do not know) it would seem > t

[ntp:questions] Trimble Resolution T

2011-10-16 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi! Anyone here used a Trimble Resolution T with NTP? Which driver should be used? I believe driver #29 (Trimble Palisade and Thunderbolt Receivers) should work but any previous experience from other would be appreciated. Cheers, Miguel ___ questions

Re: [ntp:questions] Atomized NMEA using second numbering from other server

2011-10-15 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 15 October 2011 13:58, Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"@ntp.org> wrote: > Miguel Gonçalves wrote: >> By the way, why are servers that use GPSi or PPSa as the refid? I >> searched the archives and couldn't find an answer. > > The refid is an

Re: [ntp:questions] Atomized NMEA using second numbering from other server

2011-10-15 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Dave! 2011/10/14 Miguel Gonçalves : > tock# /usr/local/bin/ntpq -p -c as >     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter > == > oGPS_NMEA(0)     .GPS.            0 l  

Re: [ntp:questions] Atomized NMEA using second numbering from other server

2011-10-14 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
2011/10/14 Dave Hart : > > Try ntpq -crv, or ntpq -c "rv peer" -- if it's peer=17496 than it is > the system peer as well as the pps peer. tock# /usr/local/bin/ntpq -p -c as remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter =

Re: [ntp:questions] Atomized NMEA using second numbering from other server

2011-10-14 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Dave! 2011/10/14 Dave Hart : > 2011/10/14 Miguel Gonçalves : > Those snippets don't completely answer my question about using prefer > in ntp.conf on the first machine -- it could appear on one of the > network sources' server lines.  I'm particularly wondering

Re: [ntp:questions] Atomized NMEA using second numbering from other server

2011-10-14 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Dave! 2011/10/14 Dave Hart : >> tock# ntpq -p >>     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter >> == >> oGPS_NMEA(0)     .GPS.            0 l    6   16  377    0.000   -0.001   >> 0.003

[ntp:questions] Atomized NMEA using second numbering from other server

2011-10-14 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi all! This is the billboard from one of my servers (ntp 4.2.6p3): tock# ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach delay offset jitter == oGPS_NMEA(0) .GPS.0 l6 16 3770

Re: [ntp:questions] NEW Public Stratum 1 NTP server (Portugal)

2011-10-13 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 13 October 2011 22:08, David Lord wrote: > Miguel Gonçalves wrote: >>> >>> It can also be a gateway for an internal network with your >>> server being polled by all the clients on that network. >> >> I believe not everyone has the skill to insta

Re: [ntp:questions] NEW Public Stratum 1 NTP server (Portugal)

2011-10-13 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi David! On 13 October 2011 13:41, David Lord wrote: > Miguel Gonçalves wrote: >> >> lstint avgint rstr r m v  count rport remote address >> >> == >>    10     15  590 K 3 3    375  

Re: [ntp:questions] NEW Public Stratum 1 NTP server (Portugal)

2011-10-13 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Dave! Thanks for all your help! 2011/10/13 Dave Hart : > Likely nothing.  I would watch the memory consumption by ntpq for a > hint of what is going on, or try it adding one or more -d options to > the ntpq command line to see exactly what's happening.  Hopefully with > enough patience it will

Re: [ntp:questions] NEW Public Stratum 1 NTP server (Portugal)

2011-10-12 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Dave! 2011/10/9 Dave Hart : > (...) > entries is not that many when servicing 20-30 kilobits/sec, given the > tiny size of NTP queries.  If you upgrade to 4.2.7, the size of the > list is limited only by your configuration and willingness to let ntpd > use memory.  Also in 4.2.7, there's a new

Re: [ntp:questions] NEW Public Stratum 1 NTP server (Portugal)

2011-10-09 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Dave! 2011/10/7 Dave Hart : > Experience has shown that offering a stratum 1 server to the public > typically results in the server name or address ending up in > configurations that are sometimes not changed for years, whether or > not the NTP service is still offered.  With that in mind, I re

[ntp:questions] NEW Public Stratum 1 NTP server (Portugal)

2011-10-07 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi all! To give something back to the community I've set up a public stratum 1 NTP server available at 213.228.178.55. The connection is an non-congested cable connection with plenty of bandwith for NTP. AFAIK, it is the first public stratum 1 NTP server available in Portugal. The access policy

[ntp:questions] Oncore driver hangs

2011-10-03 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi there! I am running a FreeBSD machine with a Oncore UT+ receiver. At the moment the NTP Oncore driver is hanging here oncore# tail -f /var/log/ntp/clocks 55837 78346.503 127.127.30.0 ONCORE[0]: state = ONCORE_CHECK_CHAN 55837 78350.990 127.127.30.0 ONCORE[0]: Input says chan = -1 55837 7835

Re: [ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-27 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 27 September 2011 10:35, David Woolley wrote: > Applying a static correction to the clock frequency only helps if the > static error is close to or greater than 500ppm. However, if that is the > case, the right thing to do is to replace the motherboard, with a better one > as it is likely tha

Re: [ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-27 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 27 September 2011 01:29, unruh wrote: > Any(?) gps receiver which has PPS output does better than 1us. Any > network does much worse than 1 us ( more like 10s of us to hundreds). > I might be wrong but checking for instance the Garmin 18 LVC specifications (http://www8.garmin.com/products/gp

Re: [ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-26 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Just a small correction... 2011/9/27 Miguel Gonçalves > > Your chances of obtaining 1 microsecond accuracy using clocks on the >> internet is just about nil! OTOH very few people actually need >> microsecond accuracy for anything other than "bragging rights"! &

Re: [ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-26 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Richard! On 26 September 2011 22:39, Richard B. Gilbert wrote: > > What is a typical offset of the loop without using special oscillators? Is >> less than 1 us achievable? >> > > I don't believe that accuracy of 1 microsecond , or less, is obtainable > without without installing a GPS Timing R

Re: [ntp:questions] tickadj -A is broken was -> Re: Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-26 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 26 September 2011 02:07, Doug Calvert wrote: > tickadj always tells me I am silly when I give it the -A described in > the docs for optimized tick. I looked at tickadj.c quickly and did > not see any facilities for -A > Hi Doug! If you are running FreeBSD I suggest changing the mach.tsc_freq

Re: [ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-26 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
2011/9/26 Dave Hart > 2011/9/25 Dave Hart : > > 2011/9/25 Miguel Gonçalves : > > > >> tick# tail -10 /var/log/ntp/loopstats > >> 55829 66927.314 0.11263 185.398 0.00620 0.001452 4 > >> 55829 66942.315 0.11355 185.398 0.00402 0.001358

Re: [ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-26 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Dave! 2011/9/26 Dave Hart > 2011/9/25 Miguel Gonçalves : > > I have a machine running FreeBSD 7.4 and it seems that the CPU clock runs > > too fast or slow (positive offset in loopstats is fast or slow?). > > ntpd's offset and the frequency compensation are both re

Re: [ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-26 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
[Sorry for such a long message] Hi David! On 25 September 2011 20:55, David Woolley wrote: > Miguel Gonçalves wrote: > >> >> I have a machine running FreeBSD 7.4 and it seems that the CPU clock runs >> too fast or slow (positive offset in loopstats is fast or slow?). >

[ntp:questions] Loop Frequency and Offset

2011-09-25 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi guys! I have a machine running FreeBSD 7.4 and it seems that the CPU clock runs too fast or slow (positive offset in loopstats is fast or slow?). tick# tail -10 /var/log/ntp/loopstats 55829 66814.311 0.10871 185.398 0.03540 0.002317 4 55829 66831.312 0.10025 185.398 0.00984 0.0

[ntp:questions] Blacklisted at ntp.org

2011-09-20 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi! Is any maintainter of support.ntp.org here? I got blacklisted while browsing the stratum 1 public servers list. I am getting this: http://support.ntp.org/bin/oops/Servers/GpsFreeBSDDk?template=oopsblacklist;param1=Your%20IP%20address%20%25REMOTE_ADDR%25%20is%20black%20listed%20at%20the%20%2

Re: [ntp:questions] Garmin 18 LVC high offset and jitter

2011-09-19 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
tion to GPS". When I do it again it stays at 20 ms. I have an unusable GPS on the roof. :-( Can anyone help please? Thanks! Cheers, Miguel On 19 September 2011 09:21, David Lord wrote: > Miguel Gonçalves wrote: > >> Hi all! >> >> I am having a problem with a

Re: [ntp:questions] Garmin 18 LVC high offset and jitter

2011-09-18 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
to work tomorrow err in 7 hours. I will report back. Cheers, Miguel On 18/09/2011, at 22:15, David Woolley wrote: > Miguel Gonçalves wrote: > > >> -ptbtime1.ptb.de .DCFa. 1 u 119 64 376 70.069 -2.174 >> 1.283 > > Given the high delays, the off

[ntp:questions] Garmin 18 LVC high offset and jitter

2011-09-18 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi all! I am having a problem with a Dell server that has a Garmin 18 LVC attached. It's a FreeBSD 7.4 machine with the Garmin 18 LVC connected to a serial port (PPS on DCD pin). The kernel has been compiled with the line "OPTIONS PPS_SYNC". NTP is 4.2.4p5. Here's the ntp.conf file: server 127.

Re: [ntp:questions] (no subject)

2011-09-12 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
/11 Miguel Gonçalves : > > Hi!! > > > > My Motorola Oncore UT+ is working fine and I am using a cheap magnetic > antenna. > > > > I want now to buy a better quality antenna for outdoor use. > > > > Any suggestions? > > Any of the "timing antenna&qu

Re: [ntp:questions] (no subject)

2011-09-12 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
way, way more cool (I would say sexier, but I would be exagerating). Did you have a good laugh with my statement? :-) Thanks! Cheers, Miguel 2011/9/11 Chris Albertson > 2011/9/11 Miguel Gonçalves : > > Hi!! > > > > My Motorola Oncore UT+ is working fine and I am using a che

[ntp:questions] (no subject)

2011-09-11 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi!! My Motorola Oncore UT+ is working fine and I am using a cheap magnetic antenna. I want now to buy a better quality antenna for outdoor use. Any suggestions? Thanks! Cheers, Miguel ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-07 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Comments bellow... 2011/9/7 Bill Unruh > On Wed, 7 Sep 2011, Miguel Gonçalves wrote: > > On 7 September 2011 05:07, unruh wrote: >> >> > I've tried Garmin 18 LVC and Sure. Not want to start a war here but for >>> the >>> >>>> specifi

Re: [ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore Surveyed Position

2011-09-07 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Yes... I know Oncore performance (and even Garmin 18, 18x and Sure) are more than enough for NTP but I am a time freak, pardon, nut :-) Cheers, Miguel On 7 September 2011 08:33, Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"@ ntp.org> wrote: > Miguel Gonçalves wrote: > &g

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-07 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 7 September 2011 05:07, unruh wrote: > > I've tried Garmin 18 LVC and Sure. Not want to start a war here but for > the > > specifications and price Oncore beats both. :-) > > Beats them how? What measurements have you made of those two units in > comparison with the oncore? > I am not disputi

Re: [ntp:questions] garmin 18x and linux

2011-09-06 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 6 September 2011 23:02, Chris Albertson wrote: > > Why don't the manufacturers provide the PPS signal to the serial port > > themselves? Is it meant to be NMEA only? > > If cost is an issue there are even lower priced options then the one > from Sure Electronics. Older Moterola UT+ receivers

Re: [ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore Surveyed Position

2011-09-06 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi! Thanks for the help! My /etc/ntp.oncore.0 file is this (I disabled SHMEM) MODE 1 LAT 41.1745319 LON -8.6560764 HT 146.72 M HARDPPS #SHMEM /etc/oncore.0 TRAIM YES DELAY 25 NS CLEAR MASK 0 I'm getting one strange thing: oncore# ntpq -p remote refid st t when poll reach

Re: [ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore Surveyed Position

2011-09-06 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
ed memory and when I reset the unit (mode 4) it uses the position stored in there. Anyone help care to comment this? Cheers, Miguel On 6 September 2011 12:33, Terje Mathisen <"terje.mathisen at tmsw.no"@ ntp.org> wrote: > Miguel Gonçalves wrote: > >> 2. When surveyi

[ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore Surveyed Position

2011-09-06 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi all! I configured a Motorola Oncore UT+ unit on a FreeBSD machine using ntpd 4.2.6p3 (ONCORE and SHHMEM enabled during configuration). If any Oncore user could help me I would appreciate. I am running with the following ntp.oncore.0 file oncore# cat /etc/ntp.oncore.0 MODE 2 SHMEM /etc/oncore.

Re: [ntp:questions] Accuracy of GPS device

2011-09-02 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi David! On 2 September 2011 08:19, David Woolley wrote: > Miguel Gonçalves wrote: > > >> No. This is a stratum 2 server and it gets the time from stratum 1 servers >> thus the names and not IP addresses. >> > > Poorly connected stratum 1 servers. With cur

Re: [ntp:questions] Accuracy of GPS device

2011-09-02 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 2 September 2011 07:56, unruh wrote: > > Nope. > > It is completely unclear to me what your question is. Your 10.0.2.254 is > an outside switch. I had several questions in my first message. Your assumption is wrong. You are telling me that a switch I installed in my rack and defined its man

Re: [ntp:questions] Accuracy of GPS device

2011-09-01 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Comments bellow... On 2 September 2011 00:47, unruh wrote: > On 2011-09-01, Miguel Gon?alves wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Thanks for your reply. My comments bellow. > > > > On 1 September 2011 18:24, unruh wrote: > > > >> On 2011-09-01, Miguel Gon?alves wrote: > >> > Hi all! > >> > > >> > I have tw

Re: [ntp:questions] Accuracy of GPS device

2011-09-01 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi! Thanks for your reply. My comments bellow. On 1 September 2011 18:24, unruh wrote: > On 2011-09-01, Miguel Gon?alves wrote: > > Hi all! > > > > I have two internal FreeBSD with GPS receivers attached (Garmin 18 LVC: > > 10.0.2.10 / Sure Evaluation Board:10.0.2.9). Both machines are on the

[ntp:questions] Accuracy of GPS device

2011-09-01 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi all! I have two internal FreeBSD with GPS receivers attached (Garmin 18 LVC: 10.0.2.10 / Sure Evaluation Board:10.0.2.9). Both machines are on the same LAN segment (VLAN). For redundancy, I've configured a Cisco switch as a stratum 2 server. Here's the relevant information: $ ntpq -pcrv 10.0.

Re: [ntp:questions] Receiving a message with imsg type - 15

2011-08-25 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 25/08/2011, at 15:00, unruh wrote: > As a newbie it helps to remember that the people on this (or anyotehr > newsgroup) are not mindreaders, and need as much info about your system > as possible. They have no idea if you are running Linux, bsd, CPM or > your own homebrew OS. They have no idea

[ntp:questions] Motorola Oncore UT+

2011-08-17 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hello all! Anyone here tried to connect a Motorola Oncore UT+ to a server via RS232? I know many did it but some pointers would be great! Thanks in advance! Cheers, Miguel ___ questions mailing list questions@lists.ntp.org http://lists.ntp.org/listinf

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS - Very High Jitter and Offset

2011-08-06 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
again my validation tests above. Without PPS I guess you couldn't reach less than 100 us accuracy over a LAN. > Thanks, > Ken No problem! Hope this helps! Cheers. Miguel > > 2011/8/5 Miguel Gonçalves : >> Hi Ken! >> >> I am using the same board on a FreeBSD 7.

Re: [ntp:questions] Sure GPS - Very High Jitter and Offset

2011-08-05 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Ken! I am using the same board on a FreeBSD 7.4-p2 machine. I'll tell you about my experience to see if that helps. I made the patches as advised by David Taylor and it is working great. I also disabled the FIFO and ACPI. Here's a startup from loopstats: 55778 43424.602 0.0 46.912 0.

Re: [ntp:questions] Appropriate Clock Driver

2011-08-04 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Charles! Sorry for my previous empty message... Too sensitive screen on my iPhone. Anyway, I am using driver #20 (NMEA) over a serial port. If you need more help just ask. Cheers, Miguel On 04/08/2011, at 16:39, "Charles Elliott" wrote: > Hello: > > > >Can someone who i

Re: [ntp:questions] Appropriate Clock Driver

2011-08-04 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Charles! I am using On 04/08/2011, at 16:39, "Charles Elliott" wrote: > Hello: > > > >Can someone who is using the Garmin 18 LVC successfully (it > is keeping good time) please tell me what clock driver they are using? > > > > Charles Elliott > > > > ___

[ntp:questions] "Large" offsets

2011-08-04 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi there! I have a Garmin 18 LVC connected to a FreeBSD 7.4 machine and I am getting "high" offsets. Here are the stats of yesterday NTP Loopfile Analysis - 0 us:6 samples ( 0.12%) ( 0.12%) 1 us: 21 samples ( 0.41%) ( 0.53%) 2 us: 33 samples ( 0.65%) ( 1.18%) 3 u

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS indication in ntpq

2011-08-02 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Dave! Thanks for your support! 2011/8/2 Dave Hart : > Actually both were seeing the PPS signal from the start, or else you > would not have been seeing offsets in the low microseconds on both. > ntpd 4.2.4 never uses the 'o' tally code, PPS or not, you will see * > for the controlling peer.  W

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS indication in ntpq

2011-08-02 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Harlan, Thank you so much for your help! I figured I was using different versions of NTP: - 4.2.4p5 (FreeBSD 7.4) on the one that was not seeing the PPS: I was only using the NMEA driver and I should have also added the PPS driver. - 4.2.6p2 (FreeBSD 7.4 but compiled through ports) on the one t

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS indication in ntpq

2011-08-02 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
On 2 August 2011 22:55, Harlan Stenn wrote: > Hi Miguel, > >> On 2 August 2011 22:29, Harlan Stenn wrote: >> > Hi Miuel, > sorry about the typo... No problem! :-) >> This is what I'm thinking... I'm assuming o is seeing PPS and the >> other one is not. Right? > > I believe so, yes.  Does the ot

Re: [ntp:questions] PPS indication in ntpq

2011-08-02 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi Harlan! On 2 August 2011 22:29, Harlan Stenn wrote: > Hi Miuel, > > I notice your different systems are using different mode bits - it looks > like both units are processing $GPGGA, with one defaulting to 4800 baud > and the other explicitly using 4800 baud. This is deliberate. > This should

[ntp:questions] PPS indication in ntpq

2011-08-02 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hello all! I recently installed a Garmin 18 LVC in the roof of my company. The configuration for a FreeBSD 7.4 machine is as follows: server 127.127.20.1 mode 2 prefer minpoll 4 iburst fudge 127.127.20.1 flag1 1 flag2 0 flag3 1 server ntp02.oal.ul.pt iburst noselect server ntp04.oal.ul.pt iburst

[ntp:questions] GPS Stratum 1 and PPS

2011-07-28 Thread Miguel Gonçalves
Hi there! I have been quite a time nut for a while but recently I bought a GPS 18 LVC from Garmin and wired it up according to one of the many tutorials around the Internet. I have a static IP and if this works out OK I am thinking about opening my NTP port to the world. :-) I am using FreeBSD 7.