To add on to this. Can think of a couple other reasons not to a go
fast steel bike with Riv touches right now -
If Bicycle Quarterly is any indication the trend in go fast seems to
be more for bikes with non-oversized tubing. That would probably
require another full lug set just for one bike.
Bargain shopping, I ordered some brakes from a shop on ebay,
ChaserTech.com. They have thousands of excellent feedback messages.
But something happened somewhere on this purchase and I never received
my brakes, just an empty box from ChaserTech. The box was sent USPS
who tracked 0 lbs 0 oz
I see that Bianchi has a slender tube go fast lugged steel offering in the 2009
line up. (The Dolomites)
Equipped with Campy Veloce, it's in the same price range as a production RBW.
No $300 option to change the paint to any color that we approve of though.
Eric's point about the plethora of
On a more positive note than my previous message, here is a report of
what sounds like a wonderful 24 day cycling trip across the tibeten
plateau, from Lhasa Tibet to Kathmandu Nepal via the Qomolugma Nature
Preserve and Everest Base camp. The rider is from SoCal, and he did it
on an Atlantis. He
On Jan 18, 2009, at 7:26 AM, EricP wrote:
If Bicycle Quarterly is any indication the trend in go fast seems to
be more for bikes with non-oversized tubing.
Well, it's perhaps a trend among bike builders wishing to market
bikes to Jan's readers. There is a tendency to take anything
On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 09:30 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Jan 18, 2009, at 7:26 AM, EricP wrote:
If Bicycle Quarterly is any indication the trend in go fast seems to
be more for bikes with non-oversized tubing.
Well, it's perhaps a trend among bike builders wishing to market
bikes to
Bill,
Thanks!
Your experience sounds the same as mine and others with the SA
saddles. I was doing the same thing you describe, scooting up on the
saddle to mitigate the girth, which is contrary to the design benefit
of the saddle.
I haven't experienced the modified Brooks, but am considering
Curious, since, among the more mass marketed race-style bikes,
stiffness (especially in the BB area) is one of the primary selling
points.
On Jan 18, 9:42 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 09:30 -0600, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Jan 18, 2009, at 7:26 AM, EricP
Look at the SOMA Speedster. For $800 it's a lugged steel sport frame
and fork built for 57 mm reach brakes, with chromed head lugs and fork
crown, room for 32's, and two sets of rear eyelets. Yes, the steerer
is 1-1/8 threadless, but that's not a deal breaker for most riders
these days. It's
On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 08:04 -0800, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote:
Curious, since, among the more mass marketed race-style bikes,
stiffness (especially in the BB area) is one of the primary selling
points.
Right. I've seen comments like it's impossible to have too much
stiffness and
I would contact the seller. They may just goofed somehow and will send
you your brakes.
On Jan 18, 8:44 am, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:
Bargain shopping, I ordered some brakes from a shop on ebay,
ChaserTech.com. They have thousands of excellent feedback messages.
But something happened
This is a general reply rather than specific to anyone soI
just don't get the 'go fast' concept here. I really can't see where a
couple of pounds makes much, if any difference. I mean, any bike can
take a narrower tire and you can dispense with the racks and bags so
where is the
Chris:
Thanks for the nice fix. I have two questions. First, what do you
mean when, in drilling the holes, you say you finished with a 1/4
bit, being careful not to ream the hole... What do you mean by not
reaming the hole?
Second, in the last paragraph you say that you ...didn't want the
Charlie makes a good point. Doesn't the AHH do fine as a go fast
bike - maybe with 28mm Paselas like I ride on my Rom (I don't own a
Ram - my error), or even as Jim's C.X. Hilsen project? I love my
Romulus, and it moves quick - but can't the AHH ride fast similar
*enough* with the added bonus
Richard,
On drilling the holes:
Be sure the rawhide is snug to the hole, mitigating the tendency for
the saddle leather to stretch and tear. The rawhide is about
0.1 (2.75mm) thick by .22 (6mm) wide. The rawhide is real, real snug
through the holes. It was not easy to pull the rawhide through.
I read a lot of posts referring to chipseal and I wonder what that
is? I may very well be riding on it but have never used that term.
Around here in Virginia, we have roads that are either concrete or
smooth rolled asphalt. The next step below that is gravel with hot,
liquid tar sprayed over
A little late in the thread I know...
One of the considerations I found pertinent to my fenders/no fenders
offroad experience was Toe Pedal Overlap. Although I ran my Saluki on
the dirt, with fenders it took too much concentration to be fun on
semi-technical to difficult singletrack to keep the
That's chipseal, alright. Sometimes the gravel is sharp and makes for a rough,
noisy ride.
- Original Message -
From: R Gonet
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:00 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Bike Models Page - some updates
I read a lot of posts
No actually. The Rambouillet has a longer rear-center, for one thing.
-Original Message-
From: Chris fourf...@gmail.com
Sent: Jan 17, 2009 2:55 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Bike Models Page - some updates
Wasn't that called the
Those of us, like myself, who can afford more than one bike, often
prefer to have bikes optimized around specific kinds of riding. In
that case a go fast road bike - one designed for centuries or
shorter rides without carrying a lot of gear, and with nimble road
manners makes a lot of sense.
I
My experience with the Ram and AHH is that they provide the same amazingly
wonderful riding experience. I can't tell a difference on roads. And for me,
it's a different experience than the RB-2 which I wouldn't take on a super-long
ride, but I definitely climb a 2-mile hill in significantly
Reverse adaptive radiation?
- Chris
On Jan 18, 12:04 pm, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
I have two An- Atomica saddles and love them. They were very early
models and have held up quite well. I remember them as being labled
Robusto, which was a little narrower than the Titanico. When I
I think that it's not so much a matter of frame weight, stiffness, or
tire size/brake reach so much as having a bike optimized for road
riding. The RB-1 demonstrates (and I'm going on hearsay here, because
I've never ridden one myself) that Grant can design a bike optimized
for road riding that
Ah yes. Larger sizes. See, one thing is that my 62 cm RB-2 is a bit too small
for me, but I find ways to tolerate that. What would be fun is a 65 cm RivB-1.
That would be awesome!
-Jim
-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com
Sent: Jan 18, 2009 11:26 AM
To: RBW
Bah, humbug! I say, maintain, asserverate, assert, shout and yell out loud
that, conceptually at least, if not financially or marketing-wise there is
a gap in the Riv lineup, said gap being fillable with an update and
inevitable improvement (for Grant's designs seem always to improve) of the
RB-1
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 9:35 AM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote:
This is a general reply rather than specific to anyone soI
just don't get the 'go fast' concept here. I really can't see where a
couple of pounds makes much, if any difference. I mean, any bike can
take a
Not sure when it was added, but I just noticed the Zefal Lock'n'Roll
anti-theft QR skewers for sale on Riv's website:
http://www.rivbike.com/#product=18-304
Sounds like an awesome idea! I'd be curious to hear if anyone's tried
them. I loath to lock up my Atlantis in SF, and this might help me
Hi - here are some parts that might be of interest, I'm trimming down
the parts bins...
Ritchey 26 x 1” slicks 25.00 for the pair
Maxxis 26 x 1.9” knobbies 45.00 for the pair
Gommitalia Champion tubular 15.00 for 1
Mafac Racer brakes nice shape,
Very nice lacing job! I've done this with a couple of saddles and it did
make them more comfortable, but they looked like shit.
On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com wrote:
If you haven't tried one, or if you have, and like many, found the
saddle splayed a bit in the
Ritchey 26 x 1 slicks 25.00 for the pair
Are these the Tom Slicks as pictured here?
Are they unused, slightly worn, hugely worn?
In my experience, it always makes for a rough, noisy ride. Most of my
riding is on this and when I hit smooth asphalt it feels like glass.
On Jan 18, 1:16 pm, David Faller dfal...@charter.net wrote:
That's chipseal, alright. Sometimes the gravel is sharp and makes for a
rough, noisy ride.
A general response to some of the issues raised in this thread:
I have indeed test-ridden the Soma Speedster at my LBS. While it is a
nice bike, it does not have the same feel as my RB-2. In fairness,
since my test ride was brief, in and around the store itself, I did
not have a chance to try it
If the Cinelli stem is 26.0, I'll take it.
On Jan 18, 12:18 pm, rb ronald.blument...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi - here are some parts that might be of interest, I'm trimming down
the parts bins...
Ritchey 26 x 1” slicks 25.00 for the pair
Maxxis 26 x 1.9” knobbies 45.00
Lisa,
+1. For those of us who is looking for a RB1 or RB2, another frame to
look out for is Fuso build by Dave Moulton. It is design as a road
racing machine, you can use fat 28c on it. I use different bikes for
different ride, when I ride with racing club folks, I use my Campy
Ergo bike, and
I cannot be sure that ChaserTech is to fault in this, though the 0 lb
0 oz weight thing makes me lean towards them. My beef with them is how
they have treated me with this difficulty. I have never had this
problem with any other purchase online, including mano-a-mano on the
IBOB list. I just want
I lock up my Atlantis often in SF, as well as my Quickbeam and Canti-Rom. You
need to pick your spot, certainly, and cable lace the wheels. That said, have
you looked at the pit-lock system sold by Peter White? I think that's a better
locking system. Pricey, but tougher to bust.
RS
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Hi,
I'm looking for a 58cm atlantis in reasonably good condition, either
complete or just the frame and fork. If you happen to have one you're
interested in parting ways with email me offlist.
Thanks,
-sv
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On Jan 18, 1:15 pm, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote:
The RB-2 simply scampers up hills like a spry jack rabbit. Or gazelle.
Or whatever. It's simply different. More explosive. There's something
about the power transfer that seems more direct, more efficient, than
the Romulus,
On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 10:15 -0800, Phil Bickford wrote:
A little late in the thread I know...
One of the considerations I found pertinent to my fenders/no fenders
offroad experience was Toe Pedal Overlap. Although I ran my Saluki on
the dirt, with fenders it took too much concentration to
If I understand correctly, Grant is a supporter of specialized markets
within the bicycle industry. He has stated this in interviews;
something to the effect of pick one thing and be the very best at
it. His economic strategy has perhaps led to a current consolidation
of models, which, colored
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 4:16 PM, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote:
I may be alone in this but I
think a low priced road intended production model from Rivendell would
be a bad idea, albeit one that would sell.
You don't give a reason, though you say things that allow one to guess or
surmise
I've had the pleasure of an RB-1 (or two), a Riv Road Standard, a
Rambouillet, and, now, a Bleriot.
I have enjoyed each more than the previous; I think that has something
to do with the progressions in geometry, but mostly with wider tires
(and their help with -- chipseal, offroad excursions,
Hi folks,
As many of you know, I'm in the process of building up my Saluki and
it's killing me...bicycle part manufacturers seem to have something
against providing clear instructions.
I'm going to get this done, but there's no way I'm going to test my
work by going for a ride. And since I'm
I suspect that geometry is more important than tube diameter when
we're talking about bikes that climb well vs bikes that don't.
On Jan 18, 5:59 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:
On Jan 18, 2009, at 10:18 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 08:04 -0800, Jim Thill -
With fenders I did - 50cm - but not without.
On Jan 18, 2:51 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 10:15 -0800, Phil Bickford wrote:
A little late in the thread I know...
One of the considerations I found pertinent to my fenders/no fenders
offroad experience
Thanks Patrick, this is a point I should clarify. By bad idea I
meant (and should have written) not what I would like to see
happen. Which is neither bad, nor good, just my opinion.
Rivendell = Great, hope they keep it up
RBW list = Great, great exchange of ideas
Jason
On Jan 18, 3:39 pm,
Will it take 60s?
At what size do the Bombadils go to 650B?
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 6:39 PM, David Sprunger sprun...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello again. I wanted to test Grant P's claim that the Bombadil would
have even better clearance than the Atlantis, so I built mine up with
Big Apple tires
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thill@gmail.com wrote:
I suspect that geometry is more important than tube diameter when
we're talking about bikes that climb well vs bikes that don't.
Now *this* is an interesting topic!
What do y'all think makes for good
That came out really well. Looks like everything belongs together - the 50s
w/fenders look good. Congrats on a nice build.
dougP
-Original Message-
From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Sprunger
Sent: Sunday, January 18,
I think the next big contribution BQ could make to the cycling
discourse is to delve into the local aspects of frame and bicycle
design. I don't have any experience or evidence to back this up, but
might it be the case that the terrain for which Singer, Herse, et. al.
were designing their bikes
On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 19:10 -0800, Andrew Karre wrote:
Show me a bike with geometry optimized for
wind, and we'll talk.
OK, how about this baby:
http://www.windcheetah.co.uk/MEDIA/hypersport1.jpg
http://www.windcheetah.co.uk/hypersport.htm#MEDIA/hypersport2.jpg
If that isn't optimized for the
Hey there good people, solidifying around the date of Saturday, February
21st... hope that is workable for you!
Here is a proposed route: http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Feb-Riv-Ride
Conversation is taking place here:
http://flickr.com/groups/1007...@n22/discuss/72157612151015567/
You're
Agreed, this is a great tour report and one of the best tours I've seen!
DE
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:
Incredible! And on a Rivendell no less! Inspiring.
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote:
On a more positive
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