I don't know how you ride a Rivendell with that particular group of folks,
but I enjoyed this immensely. ;-)
Joe I'm slow because I pedal that way Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
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I swear, when someone shows up at my club with a new bike, the first
and only topic of discussion is weight.
My guess is there isn't much else to discuss about a new racing bike!
Basic design, materials components are all so tightly spec'd that a
customer has to know exactly what they want to
Actually, I take that back... my expander was a bit different than that...
I remember now that I used some of those threaded table leg inserts for
allowing you to put adjustable feet on the bottom of table legs. They have
sharp spikes that poked into the rubber plug to keep them from rotating
Recent interaction to add to the rant: I joined a local club group for a 'Christmas lights' ride a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday evening. The route involved part of hilly Arlington County (but not the truly devilish hilly sections of the county). A friend of mine invited me, he wanted me to meet
Maybe it's just me, and I mean no offense, but all this talk of older women
climbing hills on over-geared bikes gives me the willies. I'd think the
knees wouldn't remotely stand for that sort of abuse.
-Allan
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I swear, when someone shows up at my club with a new bike, the first
and only topic of discussion is weight.
Whenever someone asks me how much does it weigh at a stoplight when
I'm riding the Protovelo, I say 17 lbs. Its a good way to end that
conversation.
On long rides when I'm trying to keep
Go for it Mike.
On Thursday, December 29, 2011, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote:
Anne Paulson for President
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(Forgive me typing one-handed, a sleeping 3-wk-old grandaughter is in one
arm);
A) there are 3 other bicycle-folks at work in my office; they're
'cyclists', on CF bikes, worrying over grams whereas, I'm the one w/ a
fendered steel Ram they can't figure why I'd want steel bike w/ fat
I do enjoy riding with others, but if you and your companions are not on the
same wavelength it can suck.
Let em ride 29 miles like (insert fast cyclist here), I'd go ride 120 miles
like Jan or 60 miles like Grant.
Some people know how to enjoy being in the saddle longer than others.
Date:
Well, while I agree that weight obsession is silly (at least, I am largely
over it now) and conventional racer gearing is also silly for most mortals,
I would not discount weight and compact doubles altogether. I had a very
nice 2X9 mountain bike that had a 20 low -- no reason compact doubles
The noodle has been claimed. But the soba is still up for a trade. If you're
like me, you must have a bunch of handlebars in your stash you're not using...
Cinelli? 3ttt? A b115 or b105? I'm open to anything really...
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I can only imagine the bikes in question (so I'm just going on pure
assumption here) but my theory is this: weight comes up so often because
on certain modern plastic bikes, it is the only redeeming quality left to
praise.
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Roadie club types tend to be the most unimaginitive of cyclists. Riding faster
or more efficiently is the only goal, and lighter weight, to unimaginitive
types, is the most obvious way to do that. In the social order of the group,
one wins peer approval by conforming to this gospel.
Any
...and likewise some of the hand-wringing that occurs here on the list. It
seems to border on neurosis at times (lol).
RGZ
On Thursday, December 29, 2011, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't know how you ride a Rivendell with that particular group of
folks, but I enjoyed this
If I can make my Hilsen a little lighter without sacrificing ride comfort and
utility, I will. A lighter bike takes less effort to pedal over a hill than a
heavier one, but focusing on a couple pounds difference between bicycles is
madness. Speaking of madness, you'll see plenty if you try
Anne Paulson for President
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for sale:
Cima Coppi wool jersey:
http://cimacoppi.bigcartel.com/product/handmade-merino-wool-cima-coppi-team-jersey
brand-new.
size medium.
short sleeve.
originally priced $140
$100
Kimura Billet Reflector for metal fenders
38mm
excellent condition.
from Jitensha Studio -- originally priced $60
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Joan Oppel oppel...@verizon.net wrote:
Recent interaction to add to the rant: I joined a local club group for a
'Christmas lights' ride a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday evening. The
route involved part of hilly Arlington County (but not the truly devilish
On Dec 28, 11:11 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
can I just rant here, among
like-people, for just a minute?
Yes you can and thank you. That was pretty funny. I gotta say, I read
your post after checking on some things related to rebuilding my Cross
Check as more of a light weight
I've embraced heavy bikes, and they've become part of my cycling persona--my
nickname on the bike is Diesel, in part because Diesels tend to be heavy. I
proudly declare to all who will listen that there is virtually nothing on any
of my bikes that was chosen because it was light.
--Eric
I love hills, and I love carrying loads up hills -- a shopping load up a
hill on the trike is great fun. Disclaimer: I am a short distance rider, 30
miles being a long ride -- call me a 1/10 Eric. But this means that I am
quite happy pushing biggish gears uphill: 20 lb in the Hoss, standing in a
Anne, Anne, Anne, the world is full of delusional people. It takes a lot
of focus just to avoid catching other people's delusions. Don't waste
energy or sacrifice your joy reacting to them.
We finally have some winter weather - about 8 of fresh snow minus 10
temperatures - so I wont be
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Benedikt neutralbuoya...@comcast.netwrote:
Were all the other parts of your drive train new when you did the
build? As I understand your post the chain was new. What about the
cranks, cassette? I'm sure the answer was probably yes but was the
chain cut to
Very refreshing !
we live in a business society where if you can't compare the size of
your engine -cough- you need some marketing BS -weight for example but
limited to- to show off with your new plastic bike.
If they were applying this (reducing weight) to cars, maybe the
american car industry
For sale, Rivendell Quickbeam 54cm, frameset built in Japan. Great
condition, no dings or dents in frame. Recently rebuilt with new
chain, cables, housing and bottom bracket. Rustproofed with
Boeshield.
Build info:
- Jitensha flat bars, Nitto Pearl stem (100mm), Brooks B17 Special
(fancy copper
That is a beautiful bike, Mark.
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*there's more to bikes than how much they weigh.*
*
*
Yeah, like aerodynamics. :-)
My bro-in-law is a wannabe racer type. Bicycles are one of the few things
we have in common. But the reality is that we don't have that in common
either. We always end up talking bikes at family gathering but
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 3:13 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
Rex:
If you like 7 speed, Loose Screws is a good source. Stuff
comes'n'goes but they've had these 13-34 cassettes for a while now:
Are they merely friction fit? I don't see any expander mechanism.
In the past I've created expanders by using a rubber plug with a hole
through the center and a large washer on the other side.
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Andrew ashtab...@gmail.com wrote:
I miss the bar-ends on my
The explanation I love the most, and that tends to shut people up as their
brains start processing it is the one that I believe both Grant and Jan
have expressed separately.
The weight of a bike only amounts to about 4% (I think) of the total rider
+ equipment. You wouldn't talk about the
A guy locally does. When I talked to him, that was one of the things
he raved about. He thinks it's a great combination.
Marc
On Dec 28, 9:11 am, Jay LePree jaymlep...@gmail.com wrote:
I have been using my Rambouillet mostly as a commuter and for rides
less than 1 to 2 hours long. I have
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 7:19 AM, opa...@gmail.com opa...@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Nearly everyday, a coworker, who rides a
carbon fiber bike, comes in my office, lifts up my Atlantis by the top tube
and exclaims: My god that's heavy. I've run out of things to say to
OK, one more post. :-) Here's how I made the expander...
http://twowheels.us/bicycles/vrex_headlight.html
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote:
Actually, I take that back... my expander was a bit different than that...
I remember now that I used some of those
hanger and reflector gone.
jersey still available.
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:16 PM, bionnaki bionn...@gmail.com wrote:
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Cima Coppi wool jersey:
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originally
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Nearly everyday, a coworker, who rides a
carbon fiber bike, comes in my office, lifts up my Atlantis by the top tube
and exclaims: My god that's heavy. I've run out of things to say to him
in reply so I may forward your post instead.
As a side note, since
reflector info: http://www.jitensha.com/eng/kimura_lights.html
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Cima Coppi wool jersey:
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brand-new.
size medium.
short sleeve.
Velo Orange front porteur rack new - $80
New, includes brake tab and bolts. Polished stainless steel.
No holes in the dropout tabs so you drill it to fit your bike.
Fits side pull, center pull or canti brakes, mounts to hole in fork
crown/dropout.
Like most on this forum, I agree with all the comments, and applaud Anne for
spot-on comments. That said, the undeniable fact remains that many more riders
pass me on CF bikes then I pass on same.
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I think that Ann could unload the eels and she'd be way faster up the
hills
Like Ann, I have almost only good things to say about the local club folks
that I often ride with. The great majority of them keep their gram
obsession comments under wraps, and wow that's a gorgeous bike is about
Yep, I know the feeling well, and I'm relatively new to this game. I was lucky
enough to discover Grant and Bridgestone early on and to find shops like Jim
Thill's Hiawatha Cyclery along the way.
Sadly, most cyclists don't actually know much about bikes. So picking up a bike
and checking its
On Christmas Day, my Uncle, Cousin and myself decided to Ride Mount
Tamalpais from Fairfax to my Aunts House in Larkspur. They Both had Full
Suspension Marin Racing Mountain Bikes and I was on My Atlantis with
Fenders and a Medium Saddlesack with a 6 pack of Sierra. :-). A
few Mountain Bikers
On Dec 29, 2:11 am, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
Yawn. As I said, I love riding with my club. But jeez, there's more to
bikes than how much they weigh.
As someone who commutes daily, rides for fun almost daily and knows
that lightweight isn't always the best choice, I agree 100%.
Yes, Anne - it is ridiculous that this 70 year old does not have a triple. And I had to bite my tongue NOT to tell her to go get her bike outfitted with a triple. It wasn't really the time/place for that - in the dark, looking at Christmas decorations, holiday spirit among the group. That's one
Two quick points: 1. Horsepower matters. My 260hp Chevy HHR SS is much more
fun and useful than my 140hp Civic was. Getting going NOW when the need
arises is worth the money. 2. Delta brakes sure are pretty. ;-)
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On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 11:50 -0600, Joan Oppel wrote:
She asked me why I could so easily go up the hills (well, I do ride a
LOT and usually on hilly terrain). I said, well, you might do better
with more gears. She replied, I know, I shouldn't have listened to
the guy in the bike shop who
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 10:16 -0800, Anne Paulson wrote:
And the other thing about these light bikes that annoys me is, OK, you
will ride faster up hills on a lighter bike, all other things being
equal. That is perfectly true, and in my club we do a lot of hills.
But... this is only a
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 13:19 -0800, Joe Bernard wrote:
Two quick points: 1. Horsepower matters. My 260hp Chevy HHR SS is much
more fun and useful than my 140hp Civic was. Getting going NOW when
the need arises is worth the money.
Unless you spend a lot of time robbing convenience stores or at
Oh my. My size, too. And orange! (Joe starts calculating if selling his
XO-3 will offset the cost enough..)
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Hi. Where is the Quickbeam located? I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
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Ah crud, that's supposed to be private to the owner.
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*Unless you spend a lot of time robbing convenience stores or at the drag
strip, just how often does the need arise to get going NOW?*
**
Merging on freeways, getting away from lane-darting idiots on freeways,
zipping past left-turners who can't see a bright red car anymore than they
can see
Anne
I thought a Roadeo was a weight weenie bike. :)
Kelly
I'll have to remember to duck after my wife reads this one.
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Joe: I'll take uou any day in my Acadiane. (When I get the clutch fixed.)
Patrick 30 hp requires a non-slip clutch More
Patrick Moore
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On Dec 29, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote:
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 13:19 -0800, Joe Bernard wrote:
Kris, I'd say the corollary to that is throwing a little bit of dirt
into the ride. I can't imagine riding on a bike that I couldn't
wander down a dirt track on. A ride just doesn't feel right if it
doesn't include some dirt in it! I'm not saying a MCRB w/ 23s can't
ride a road like this
Based on the comments last week concerning the DiNotte 300L tail
light, I bought one as I was feeling distinctly under tail-lighted in
the dark. Those little retro bullet-shaped things that Riv sells
really don't create much of a warning. The 300L is very bright. A
dumb question though: does
Thanks, Anne, for kicking off such a spirited thread. Let loose a
rant anytime! And I just gotta also say that I like reading about
women in their 60's and 70's riding. I'm in my 50's and hope to be
like Rosalind Carter riding her Glorius (or did I just make that up?)
in her 80's.
liesl
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We've got bills. We need to start 2012 with fewer SKUs (part numbers).
We need to sell one or two of a thing, and not five.
It will be good for us with your help. It should be good for you, too.
Go here, and as they say, Shop Early For Best Selection.
Looks like some of the sale prices aren't showing in the cart. We are
working on it. If you have ordered, the price will be adjusted.
Thanks!
On Dec 29, 3:37 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote:
We've got bills. We need to start 2012 with fewer SKUs (part numbers).
We need to sell one
Check it out:
http://janheine.wordpress.com/2011/12/28/people-who-have-inspired-us-grant-petersen/
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They almost certainly also told her a compact double gave her the
identical low gear that she would have with a triple. And, for a
very
narrow set of assumptions, it does.
I've heard this from more than one source I too puzzle about it.
Assuming the typical MCRB comes with a standard Shimano
Fixed!
On Dec 29, 4:00 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote:
Looks like some of the sale prices aren't showing in the cart. We are
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Thanks!
On Dec 29, 3:37 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote:
We've got
On Thu, 2011-12-29 at 16:46 -0800, Joe Bernard wrote:
I think one thing that gets missed about folks who prefer Compact
Doubles is that it isn't just about a minimal weight savings: It's
looks. Touring bikes have triples, racing bikes have doubles. This
matters to modern-carbon-racey people.
*The usual comment you see on the forums is triples are too
complicated. Can't say I ever understood that.*
**
I think some people find the centering/trimming activity betwen the small
and middle rings troublesome. Most of these people are running indexed
front brifters, which, in my one
Amen! I was thinking of Grant's influence on cycling and components and
accessories now readily available -- as they were not, 20 years ago -- this
afternoon as I rode home from several errands on my Fargo equipped with
Silvers, Noodles, X2Ds, Camper, 46 outer, etc: he really has been a boon to
Here is fun chart to play with
http://bikecalculator.com/veloUS.html
Kelly
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The dream of every CF roadie should be to have a buddy who rides a
Rivendell and brings along the camera, food and other elements that enhance
the ride, while they secretly envy the careless freedom that not worrying
about weight and bringing along the stuff you want, provides.
René
On Thursday,
We had several different conversations about bike envy during the very
pleasant day. They were all about how he envied my bike.
I thought I was done with steel bikes until today
That handlebar bag is looking good right about now
Those lights are really great, which hub is that?
Those puddles
I did a 200k permanent down in Southern California with my cousin Ed
(you'll note the family resemblance). That rounded off my R12 award (at
least one brevet of at least 200k every month for a continuous year). It
was all on the Hilsen. That was one of my big goals for 2011. For 2012
I'm
I'm into reading about it, and seeing pics. *Doing* it? Not so much..
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Congrats. That's an epic accomplishment to me! =)
Stephen
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In great shape! Has nitto noodle handlebar shimano brakes along with
silver tektro interrupter brakes. Has a sugino triple crank do not
know the exact specs of it. And a 9 speed rear hub. Also has shimano
bar end friction shifters. Only things not be included are pedals,
seat post, and saddle. Ask
Friction fit, with permanent loc-tite, was my first thought. That lets me
hollow them out all the way through. Your suggestion of an expander
butt-plug is good, and I have been tinkering with that, too. Would probably
run a rubber donut against the end, with a washer and captive nut on the
far
That's sweet. And as an added plus, Orange is the fastest colour.
- Andrew, Berkeley
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Pardon my ignorance, I rode an old mountain bike through the whole
single speed era.
I get the flip-flop in the rear, but how do you shift between chain
rings?
Too small for me anyway. Which is probably a good thing.
Beautiful bike.
Jay
On Dec 29, 10:36 am, moshmosh mosh...@comcast.net wrote:
You stop, put the chain on the other ring (and rear cog, if you prefer),
adjust the wheel in the horizontal dropouts, and ride on. I think Dos Enos
means one side has two cogs so you don't have to flip the wheel around.
Joe I want it Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
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Loosen up the QR on the rear wheel, slide it forward and use your
finger/stick/hex-key to move the chain to the other ring. Repeat as
necessary.
The QB has extra long fork-ends on the back, which gives you a pretty
good gear range (eight teeth I think?).
On 12/29/11, Jay robin...@gmail.com
Though I have been following Bridgestone-Rivendell since 1993, I didn't
realize, or had forgotten that Grant designed the Nitto Noodle handlebar.
I too look at my bikes and see Grant all over them: larger frames, higher
handlebars, fatter tires, Brooks, Carradice/Baggins, Nitto, TA/Ritchey
Hats off to you!!!... Or should it be helmets off? Not meaning to start a
discussion...
Impressive by any means.
I really mean well when I say I envy you for accomplishing your goals; I
didn't achieve mine...
René
On Thursday, December 29, 2011, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote:
Congrats.
R12 and 3Kkm as well, congratulations!
On 12/29/11, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
Hats off to you!!!... Or should it be helmets off? Not meaning to start a
discussion...
Impressive by any means.
I really mean well when I say I envy you for accomplishing your goals; I
didn't
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