Manny - how did you like the large saddlesack on the front as opposed to a
basket? Any advantages? How does it attach to the platrack?
Brian Hanson
On Jul 16, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote:
Great trip with great friends, new and old. Great talking to
Rack and Wheel are sold, Kremlin bag still remains--there's gotta be a
closet hipster in this group that needs some vintage chrome!
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Kurt Henry shre...@yahoo.com wrote:
Erik, I can't seem to convince Google groups to show me your email to
shoot you a line
These are nice:
http://www.amazon.com/Spenco-Classic-Glove-Beige-Crochet/dp/B0025UEWQ6/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goodsie=UTF8qid=1342529818sr=1-1keywords=spenco+cycling+gloves
A bit pricey though
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:04 PM, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.comwrote:
I'm stuck wearing lycra
The Spenco gloves are actually pretty nice. I've had a pair for a
couple of years now. Doesn't get as sweaty as the leather and crochet
gloves from Rivendell. I rotate between both. The Spenco gel seems
to last longer than the padding on the Riv gloves, also.
But there is something nice about
Charlie,
My friend Kathy is interested in the Mixte. I've cc'd her to this email.
Perhaps you and her can open a conversation to discuss.
Best,
Amit
On Monday, 16 July 2012 11:43:18 UTC-4, Charlie wrote:
Both Toyo - never built - pictures here - Both for $3500...
Nice! Those marshmallows have a mind of their own.
On Jul 16, 8:44 pm, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Great trip with great friends, new and old. Great talking to professional
bike packer and Rivendell employee, Miles. We did a lot of advertising
around the Marin Headlands
I have a bunch of bamboo rayon. At the time they were just Shirts On
Sale but they are good on bikes. Lately I've taken to wearing white
billowy dress type shirts. People look at me a little differently,
maybe they think I'm a Mormon.
On Jul 16, 2:45 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 1:28 AM, erik jensen bicyclen...@gmail.com wrote:
this thread started before i left to ride my atlantis across the cascades
and elsewhere, and i return to see it continues...
...What have all the posters in this thread been doing? I'd much rather
hear about that.
Take one or all. $2.00 in *stamps*, please, for one pair, $3 for 3, to
3512 Nolina Court NW, Albuquerque, NM 87120.
They have been slightly modified (straps shortened, grommets added for
small zip ties) but IMO this enhances rather than subtracts from their
usefulness.
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One of the things I enjoy when watching the TDF on TV are the comments from
Phil Ligget and Paul Sherwin.
Sherwin has the best I've heard this year. As someone surges to a breakaway on
some climb, Sherwin comments:
' Well he's certainly tossed the cat amongst the pigeons now!'
I'm hoping to
I worked the finish from 10AM to 7PM and only spotted one blue AHH (tried
to talk to the rider but he was busy with family group photos). I knew
there had to be more Riv's but was sad to miss them
On Monday, July 16, 2012 6:20:23 PM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote:
Living through this last
Nothing like packing a tasty sandwich from the Belli Deli in San Rafael
before a long ride in Marin.
On Monday, July 16, 2012 4:19:32 PM UTC-7, Aaron Thomas wrote:
Gary Fisher's take on the subject may be of interest to the list. Get that
man a Li'l Loafer!
Hi... new here, but was advised over in Bike Forums to check this user
group! I've been seriously considering a Rivendell, and have settled in a
Sam Hillborne. I just came across a 2011 SH model going for about $1600 to
$1700 - supposedly it has low mileage. *Does this price sound reasonable?
Whoosh! That was fast!
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Whole bike or frame only? If its whole bike that is a nice price if the
components arent worn out. Remember a new SH frameset sold for around 1k,
they have since gone up to 1,225.
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Ozonation ekl...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi... new here, but was advised over in Bike
I don't know if you can add it after the fact. Many European brands offer
it as original equipment, though. It's just a fine plastic mesh
incorporated into the front vents to keep out bugs and debris. Nice
feature!
You can see it in the second pic here:
Repeat, repeat: a 2 or 3 hour ride is long for me, but in such cases I
like, in hot weather, weak tea with lemon and a little sugar; in cold
weather, Indian Chai but weakish with not too much milk.
(Indian chai, the real stuff: boil cheap loose tea with lots of sugar
and milk until it is at once
I mean, weak COLD tea.
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 8:35 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
in hot weather, weak tea with lemon and a little sugar; in cold
weather, Indian Chai but weakish with not too much milk.
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Really depends on what components are on it, if it comes with racks/bags,
what wheels are on it ect. I think all told, my Sam came in at like $2500,
but I put phil Rivy wheels on it and some other fine items.
On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:54:57 AM UTC-5, Ozonation wrote:
Hi... new here,
On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:15:16 AM UTC-4, Corwin wrote:
In my opinion, you should know your own limits - but should not let your
limits be defined by a gross yardstick. And you should carefully establish
your own maximum heart rate, and use it as a tool for your own training -
but
I actually just put some 50mm Big Apples on my 58cm Atlantis with Paul Mini
Moto's on the front fork. There is clearance...but just barely...maybe a
1/4 inch...maybe. Probably not safe for riding, but I made it to work today!
On Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:05:44 PM UTC-7, meehan...@gmail.com
A few weeks back I was lucky enough to score an Atlantis at a ridiculous
price. Despite the price, purchasing the bike was a tough desicion for me
when I, A) already had a wonderfuly fitting and riding Surly LHT; B) Wasn't
sure that a 58cm atlantis would provide an adequate fit; and C) have a
Try these:
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bl6.htm
On Jul 17, 2012, at 7:46 AM, The Cripler wrote:
A few weeks back I was lucky enough to score an Atlantis at a ridiculous
price. Despite the price, purchasing the bike was a tough desicion for me
when I, A) already had a wonderfuly
The TRP Tektro levers on Riv's website are the nicest-feeling levers I've ever
ridden -- just fantastic. Here's the link:
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bl6.htm Very easy to brake from the hoods,
too. They look a little funny in the pics (some of them, anyway), but the gum
hood version
Great looking bike -- congrats!
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Subject: [RBW] The new Atlantis coming together
Here is a picture of the bike as it is now . I added some brown Big
Apples and Paul mini-motos on the front, and swapped out a shorter
stem, aside from that the bike is as it came. I still haven't
decided what I am going to do in regards to the brake levers (as you
can tell by my wacked
Well, my brother-in-law Joe and I finally did Marin County right for a trip
that lasted longer than one day. My first adventure in Marin back in 2009 was a
single night of hotel touring and accidentally meeting up with Esteban,
Franklyn, Aaron, and a few others and meeting them for the first
I had one as a younger man that went on top of the helmet like hairnet and
it was just as awesome as it sounds, haha. It did keep the bees and dragon
flies out of your hair when riding around upstate though but man was it
ugly.
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com
Well, in case you'd like to include original price in your valuation, bear
in mind that the Hillborne's historical pricing is complicated. Early in
2011, framesets from Taiwan were $1,000, Waterford framesets were $1,400
(Waterford framesets may have been less expensive, say, $1,250, just as
I assume you've read the information on the Rivendell site about fit, and
in particular about the fit of the Sams. Different Riv models have
different fit characteristics. Since you're going to see the bike you can
check it out for yourself of course. As I recall, the Taiwan-make Sams
were
Diluted Gatorade also works for me.
Yeah, diluted apple juice works too. Like I said, the V8 has been a
revelation but not something I want to fill my bottles up with. I'm hoping
to do Larch Mtn on Sat or Sun. If it's hot I'll probably bring a small can
with me in my bag and just drink it
Your Atlantis looks beautiful. Looks like all the contact points lined up
for a good fit while keeping a nice Riv aesthetic. Be sure to update us
with photos of it in the wild.
As for gum hoods... I think Cane Creek makes an aero lever with gum hoods.
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I haven't looked at the pictures yet as I have to go run an errand but just
reading a description of your route it appears you hit all the great roads
in the area. I'm from SF and logged thousands of miles in Marin County on
and off road and yet feel like I missed out as I wasn't into bike
I also have to mention that while most used Riv's are well used there is no
point getting one beat to hell when as mentioned earlier if you are an
average size they pop up somewhat often.
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Thomas Lynn Skean
thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote:
Well, in case you'd
I gave up on sports drinks long ago. On long rides, I'll usually carry a
bottle of water and a bottle of strong-as-death Irish breakfast tea.
Usually, for rides under 2 hours, I won't carry anything at all unless it
is really nasty hot and humid. Instead of goo-packs, I like apples or
sectioned
Oh, that's coming together nicely. Keep us updated with pics!
Cheers!
lyle
On 17 July 2012 12:17, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
Your Atlantis looks beautiful. Looks like all the contact points lined up
for a good fit while keeping a nice Riv aesthetic. Be sure to update us
with photos of
I added some brown Big Apples and Paul mini-motos on the front,
There was a recent thread regarding V-brakes that included an inquiry
on tire size with the mini-motos. What size BAs did you use?
Glad that all worked out for you and your friend taking the LHT.
Always nice to pass on a bike to
Great looking bike, but you could afford to trim a TON off your shift cable
housing.
My favorite brakelever for your setup is the Tektro R200A. The Cane Creek
gum hoods fit that lever. I stocked up on them when they were selling for
under $20 a pair. I bought gum hoods for about $8 a pair.
Got one, thanks for the help fellas!
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This morning on my way I to work, I came across 3 women with bikes fully
loaded crossing the Mississippi River on the Marshall Avenue Bridge.
They're on a cross-country tour from Seattle to NYC, their home port.
Didn't get their names, but one was on a blue LHT. Made my heart sing. If
you
Congrats!!!
FWIW, I like the Tektro 200's also, have them on my Ram's Noodles...
Enjoy!!!
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On a hot, sweaty day, V8s are amazing for me. I'll drink 24oz per
stop. It doesn't replace many calories, but it certainly replaces the
electrolytes. I'm going to make my first batch of the famous Allen Lim
rice cakes this weekend and see how those taste while riding.
Toshi
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I had some 5% back store credit burning a hole in my rivbike.com account,
so I recently made a purchase. (Thanks guys!) Part of my order was a
pair of King Grip pedals. Did my first ride with them today and thought
I'd share my thoughts for those who are considering them.
The ride was my
Thanks for all the suggestions. I was looking at those TRP levers, and they
look beautiful...but also spendy. William, I am going to have to look into
the Tektro levers you suggested. If I added the hoods you suggested, they
look like they might provide a nice budget solution for the time
Recumbents are an excellent change-of-pace from uprights..I think all
serious riders should try one at least once. I have a trike which I enjoy
very much.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:54:25 AM UTC-7, stevef wrote:
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 1:28 AM, erik jensen
On Monday, July 16, 2012 7:19:32 PM UTC-4, Aaron Thomas wrote:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/07/16/156854397/some-athletes-reject-high-tech-sports-fuel-in-favor-of-real-food
Anybody ever try Switchel (a/k/a Haymakers' Punch)? It's a favorite
homebrew energy drink in New England.
Wow! Patrick, I haven't thought about Switchel in eons! We used to drink
that a lot back when I was a kid and working on dairy farms back home in
Vermont. I think I'm going to have to make a batch!
Cheers!
lyle
On 17 July 2012 14:09, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, July
Got mine new and put a couple hundred miles on mine before switching
to an 8 for my Noodle bars. So pretty much new plus a few insertion
type scratch.
Looking for an 11 or 12 to try Albas.
I'll be in Meredith NH for a month starting next week, if you're local
to that area we could save a few
I've got a pair waiting for me at the post office. :)
Should be able to add my impressions by the weekend.
On Jul 17, 8:57 pm, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote:
I had some 5% back store credit burning a hole in my rivbike.com account,
so I recently made a purchase. (Thanks guys!) Part of my
Grip Kings are great. I humbly remind the group that I have in the past
sold a modification to Grip Kings to transform them into Grip King
Supremes. I will be selling them again in the future. What I've made and
sold is aluminum cages that sandwich in and enhance the platform width
while
Ah, you've saved me the time of going through the archives to find you. :-)
I'd like to be on your list.
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:38 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
Grip Kings are great. I humbly remind the group that I have in the past
sold a modification to Grip Kings to transform
I'd be really interested in hearing your comparison of ride quality of the
LHT vs. Atlantis. I have a Trucker but have always lusted after the
Atlantis...The LHT rides like a tank and feels incredibly slow. I can't
imagine that I'd be able to manage over 8 mph with any kind of load on
I highly recommend the pedal spikes that Riv sells. I found that the Grip
Kings became much less grippy when they got wet. After adding the spikes
(which really aren't spikes, but more of a flat topped screw) my feet do not
slip one bit when riding in rain, dry, whatever.
FWIW, my riding
Should have mentioned that mine is 26mm diameter - Noodle sized.
If yours is 25.4 so much the better. If not I'll need a shim.
If anyone wants to buy the 10 cm that would be fine too. Say $30
including shipping. Riv has them on closeout for $40 + shipping so $30
seems about right.
Jay
On Jul
I have Grip Kings on both my bikes. I have RBW's spikes on one face of
each pedal on one bike, no spikes on my newer bike's pedals. It is on the
list of things to do to put the spikes on one face of each pedal on my
newer bike.
Unless it's really wet or snowy, I prefer the absence of the
On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 2:14:53 PM UTC-4, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com wrote:
Wow! Patrick, I haven't thought about Switchel in eons! We used to drink
that a lot back when I was a kid and working on dairy farms back home in
Vermont. I think I'm going to have to make a batch!
Right on!
+1 on loving their Sams.
I loved the Hillborne from the very first time I sat atop one. It just felt
right. I bought an orange 2010 DTT canti-studded Hillborne. Several
thousand miles of riding did not change my opinion of it. So when time came
to get a second bike, I got a green 2012
Wow! I see very little space between those mini-motos and the tire. Perhaps
that's an effect of the photo.
I love Paul Components's stuff in general. I sort of wish the mini-motos
had been available when I was building up my first bike. They look so
clean! And when I look around I see more
On the PDX CL. Not mine:
http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/3145595792.html
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Thomas,
There really is VERY little space between the BA's and the mini moto's.
Maybe a 1/4 inch...maybe. Actually, it is probably not really a long term
solution, or even a safe option at that. It kind of bums me out a little to
be honest. I really want to run those brown Big Apples, but it
Thomas,
Here is a close-up of the clearance. Kinda scary really:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PSorbVVk4aw/UAXi_KmWyMI/AB4/i1KFvXJKBws/s1600/IMG_0986%5B1%5D.JPG
On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:46:06 AM UTC-7, The Cripler wrote:
A few weeks back I was lucky enough to score an
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-akkbNyiXEfeature=player_embedded
As fun as a litter of kittens in a dryer!
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Yowza and ppl are worried about fender clearance! I dont have some love of
any kind of brake setup, they all seemed adequate in terms of stopping for
me but it seems if you have the scratch for Paul's than the neo retros look
like the dogs bollocks of all canti brakes.
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at
I've had good success with skateboard grip tape on pedals that seemed too
small:
http://www.biketinker.com/2011/projects/griptape-on-platform-pedals/
And ones that are gigantic:
http://problemsolversbike.com/blog/comments/how_to_make_skateboard_pedal_decks_for_clipless_pedals/
One day I will
Peter,
Unfortunately my tastes run richer than my wallet. This is how I ended up
with the Paul mini-motos. The fact that I live in Chico, CA and ride over
to the Paul warehouse doesn't help at all either. I do know a couple folks
who work there, but so far the brotherly love has yet to come
Jay,
I have a 120 I'd be willing to trade. Same condition as yours, mounted
never ridden. Let me get back to when Im at home.
On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:17:51 AM UTC-7, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
Got mine new and put a couple hundred miles on mine before switching
to an 8 for my Noodle
Ah, you must not be married with children. Sometimes toying with perfect
toe-in for 2 hours *is* a recreational activity, haha.
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 6:23 PM, The Cripler citrowbri...@gmail.com wrote:
Peter,
Unfortunately my tastes run richer than my wallet. This is how I ended up
with the
I believe the physiology research shows folks do have max heart rates,
but trying to predict an individual's max from the published formulas
is not appropriate. The published formulas are based on statistical
fitting of large numbers of people, and the spread in the data is
quite large. Though the
Griptape on pedals is such a good idea. I was thinking about the Ergons on
my current tank/bike off road touring bike.
How does it work when your shoes get muddy?
To bring it back OT: Grip Kings are too slippery for Seattle. You need the
spikes.
- Ryan
On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:22:35 PM
Since my cardiologist requires an annual trot on the treadmill as part of
my care, I've quizzed him about this question especially in relation to
cycling. A stress echo cardiogram is a closely controlled test to allow
comparison of a patient's data from test to test, and over the years the
Wowser! That clearance is close! I just ran out to see what it is on my
Atlantis with 80 mm BMX brake 40 mm tire. It ain't much more. I've got
a full size Shimano V on order as my LBS didn't have silver. Never thought
about something getting jammed in there; glad my anal nature insisted
Wow, that's tight clearance! Persoanlly i would not run it so close.
Like Tom A. i have a pair of the TRP levers (mine are not on the bike yet),
i would say this, yes they are nice, yes they are expensive. from your
post it sounds like the only reason you want to switch to aero levers is
Yesterday, saw 5 loaded touring bikes downtown Minneapolis. Per the
leader, the others were teenagers crossing the country. It's getting to be
that time when there are a lot of folks coming through the Twin Cities on
tour. (They were mostly steel bikes, and most everyone was loaded only on
the
NPR had an exposé on sports drinks and the like etc... It's interesting. (I
would link it but I have no idea how to work this phone and my tech support is
busy pinning). Anyways, the paragraph or so is pretty interesting- marketing
makes dehydration more complicated etc. and quoting a sports
It's close, but if you're not running fenders, why not? If you would like
to change, maybe look at regular Shimano Deore V brakes. Have them on my
LHT which has 26 wheels and a fender. It clears the fender about as much
as your Pauls do without the fender.
Cheap Tektros might also work.
Glad
With the levers, it is actually a functional issue for me. My LHT, which I
migrated from, had STI Levers. I really found myself using the nub on the
top of the lever as a comfortable respite from the drops. I also found the
shape to be something I prefer to the non aero levers on the Altantis.
I have two items for sale (may have more in a few days when I get
around to sorting and photos). I am also looking to trade for Shimano
9 speed bar end shifters.
1. Brooks B17 Standard Antique Brown. Generally good condition.
Leather is scuffed in one corner from when the bike tipped over
Well 14 people. Three rivs. First day out of anchorage was rainey, last
couple have been fantastic.
Kelly
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I got wind that somebody I know is going to be on Cupcake Wars tonite at
8pm California time. My rumor-person wouldn't say who it was, and I asked,
Should I alert anybody else? and she said, Maybe Robert (Pineapple
Bob). But I got no way to alert him. Anyway...maybe it's not her, but it
starts
I have a LHT also and want to switch to the Atlantis frame...you might
switch to mounting the Silver shifter to the down tube.just take off
the pods and the cable stops. It shortens and streamlines the shifter set
up and makes the shifting the snappiest IMO. You'll find you won't be
Crippler,
Thanks.
My preference would still be for 25.4mm clamp diameter, or to sell
mine and buy the right one from Riv.
If neither is offeredn by the end of next week I'll give you a shout.
How are you liking that Atlantis, BTW? Looks really nice.
Jay
On Jul 18, 1:26 am, The Cripler
A) first thought was, if you're not going to run knobbies, are sticking w/ the
smooth tread, then, maybe, it's okayish; but you could run the fender above the
brake instead of under it;
B) but my better thought: why not run a regular Motolite v-brake, instead of
the mini? It'd have loads more
Here's a cell phone pic looking straight down from the saddle.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h3EAAwaQATs/UAY-YrH7tkI/DG4/58QCPpLK7Cw/s1600/071712144312.jpg
Marc
On Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:56:55 AM UTC-4, Marc Irwin wrote:
If I get a chance, I'll take another photo from the top.
The formulas in JR are accurate for lots and lots and lots of people. Can
never be *everybody*, but (at your own risk, with the usual warnings about
doctor's approval and supervision and all)--I think most people will find
that it is remarkably close to the number the formula gives. If you're
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