Re: [RBW] Re: SolCal Ride for Saturday January 4, 2014

2014-01-04 Thread Hugh Smitham
Tom, You will be missed my friend and there will other rides coming up. Evan and Mike will be missed as well. ~Hugh Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving. -- Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Tom

[RBW] Tire Width and Performance from SCHWALBE

2014-01-04 Thread Charlie
http://www.schwalbetires.com/tech_info/rolling_resistance#why Another view on tire performance. Guess they do not use the same hill that Mr. Heine uses, or the same type of testing. Charlie Petry Snow riding today in Jennersville PA -- You received this message

[RBW] New Roadeo frameset has arrived!

2014-01-04 Thread Pondero
That is beautiful, Paul. With the personal touches, it is obviously a treasure. I'm looking forward to seeing build updates and action shots. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Carradice Barley mounting options for saddle without loops?

2014-01-04 Thread doc
http://gspiess.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/012.jpg I wish I had a better picture for you, but this is a Midlands rack that clamps on to the saddle rails and works great for supporting the Barley upright and away from the post. I have two of them, both acquired for $11.00 each on Ebay. I

[RBW] Re: Carradice Barley mounting options for saddle without loops?

2014-01-04 Thread doc
http://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-035/38_1.JPG here ya' go! On Saturday, January 4, 2014 8:30:33 AM UTC-5, doc wrote: http://gspiess.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/012.jpg I wish I had a better picture for you, but this is a Midlands rack that clamps on to the saddle rails and works great for

[RBW] Re: Carradice Barley mounting options for saddle without loops?

2014-01-04 Thread Michael Hechmer
Jim, I have used the Carradice SQR system with a Barley bag for years. It works great. It attaches to the seat post instead of the saddle rails so is much more secure than the bagman. You can buy multiple attachments at half the cost of the bagman. The SQR keeps the bag back away from the

Re: [RBW] Re: New bike siting: Cheviut/Cheviot/Chevrolet?

2014-01-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/03/2014 10:06 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: I haven't paid too much attention to this parameter on other Rivendells, but at least on my two (including one Atlantis), the bridges were equidistant to the dropout. Particularly on the Atlantis, there is so much built-in space around the

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo frameset has arrived!

2014-01-04 Thread Michael Hechmer
Looks great. I'm a big dt fan myself. What's the build plan…. crank, wheels, brakes, bars…? On Friday, January 3, 2014 6:50:28 PM UTC-5, Paul G wrote: Okay folks, you asked for photos when it arrived so your wish is my command https://app.box.com/s/85g0h65aqow3rusz1f2y. I had a couple

Re: [RBW] Re: DIY Lug Lining

2014-01-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/03/2014 10:23 PM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-DL2zwlvGbqQ/Usd9xo6ORwI/EeA/NUZvEJsnA1E/s1600/photo+1-1.JPGhttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-u0XLx6re8JE/Usd-GU9h9JI/EeI/QH6UglVSVbo/s1600/photo+2.JPG In fact, I just got a new order of the new

Re: [RBW] Tire Width and Performance

2014-01-04 Thread Ron Mc
Bill, again, I'm telling you it's not a personal thing - it's in our wiring to recognize slight changes, especially where work is concerned. We don't feel the baseline work, what we feel is the change from the baseline work. Bike riders feel weight difference in wheels more than anything

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo frameset has arrived!

2014-01-04 Thread Tony DeFilippo
An exciting Saturday for you! I hope you get her rolling quickly. I'd love to see a Rodeo in person some time, like all these bikes they look great. That cream and red is a great combo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo frameset has arrived!

2014-01-04 Thread Michael
Congrats! You are right. It looks cream. Very nice!! On Friday, January 3, 2014 6:50:28 PM UTC-5, Paul G wrote: Okay folks, you asked for photos when it arrived so your wish is my command https://app.box.com/s/85g0h65aqow3rusz1f2y. I had a couple add-ons brazed on in the form of

[RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues.

2014-01-04 Thread Michael
Hugh, If you are going to throw away the blown tire, could you use a packing knife and cut a section off of it and post a pic here of it so we can see the casing/tread head on? I am trying to understand what Hetres have - an actual casing that wraps around the beads, or just threads

RE: [RBW] Re: FW: For Sale; Tom Ritchey fillet brazed LONG Frame, Fork, HS

2014-01-04 Thread EGNolan
That bike looks great as a long tail! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm canti Saluki

2014-01-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/04/2014 10:06 AM, Minh wrote: I'm only asking this for pure academic research reasons, but what's the max tire size for the saluki? Is it the same as the 650b ahh? 41mm? Remember just for research :) My Saluki was a 60cm cantilever model, and an early one. I fit Hetres, and

[RBW] Re: WTB Basket/ShopSack

2014-01-04 Thread EGNolan
I don't think you'll regret it. The basket/shop sack combo is my favorite. I've moved the rack/basket/sack to several bikes because it is such a convenient way to carry gear. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo frameset has arrived!

2014-01-04 Thread Kellie Stapleton
Really nice! Congratulations! On Friday, January 3, 2014 3:50:28 PM UTC-8, Paul G wrote: Okay folks, you asked for photos when it arrived so your wish is my command https://app.box.com/s/85g0h65aqow3rusz1f2y. I had a couple add-ons brazed on in the form of downtube shifter bosses and a

[RBW] Re: New bike siting: Cheviut/Cheviot/Chevrolet?

2014-01-04 Thread Kellie Stapleton
I'm feeling that way too (or is it just a rationalization for getting my hands on that Chevy-ut). On Friday, January 3, 2014 11:12:00 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Well! I was looking forward to the Appaloosa (a bike I'm not convinced will ever reach production), but this is *very* nice. I

[RBW] Gränsfors Bruk Factory Tour vid

2014-01-04 Thread Aaron Young
Hey Bunch, I came across this on youtube last night and thought others might find it interesting like I did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E89nlVmPeeU The forging process begins at about 2:30. Aaron Young The Dalles, OR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: DIY Lug Lining

2014-01-04 Thread Ron Mc
My daughter gold-tipped the lugs on my Raleigh http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aP4150001.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aaP4090002.jpg On Thursday, January 2, 2014 11:58:17 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: OK, so the Blug said that

[RBW] Re: DIY Lug Lining

2014-01-04 Thread Bill Lindsay
MBB Are you going to pinstripe the MacBook Air in the background? Seriously, though. Did you get that result with a brush? On Friday, January 3, 2014 7:23:30 PM UTC-8, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 58cm canti Saluki

2014-01-04 Thread justinaugust
I fit 650b x 1.95 Vee Rubber XCX tires on my 58cm Saluki with Paul Racers. http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/justinaugust/10178195694/ You can browse around to see clearances. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: Tire Width and Performance from SCHWALBE

2014-01-04 Thread Jan Heine
Schwalbe's graph is nice, but unfortunately, it's an ancient graph that has long been debunked. While it shows wider tires rolling faster, it also suggests that very high pressures make tires roll faster. That simply isn't true. We've used several different methods to confirm our initial

[RBW] Re: DIY Lug Lining

2014-01-04 Thread Ron Mc
my daughter did - a good Sable brush. On Saturday, January 4, 2014 10:08:48 AM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: MBB Are you going to pinstripe the MacBook Air in the background? Seriously, though. Did you get that result with a brush? On Friday, January 3, 2014 7:23:30 PM UTC-8, Montclair

[RBW] A study in Slope in Pictures

2014-01-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
Slopes in pictures so rarely show how steep it actually is. Here is a study, using Theodolite to show the actual degree of the slope and a photo without it. Theodolite (reveals it’s a 7˚ slope, or 12% grade): http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/11755929135/ Plain photo (looks like 4-6%

[RBW] Re: Hetres are done.The search continues.

2014-01-04 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
I like this idea. I've done similar with expired rims. If nothing else to see what's left and if they were really expired. What I learned is that I probably wait too long to swap out rims. They were scary thin. --Smitty On Saturday, January 4, 2014 6:44:44 AM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Hugh,

Re: [RBW] Tire Width and Performance

2014-01-04 Thread Tim McNamara
Unfortunately there is a boatload of contradictory scientific evidence about these sorts of thing. Most of the differences we think we perceive are based on the beliefs and assumptions we have about the equipment on our bikes, rather than differences we can actually perceive. The felt

[RBW] Re: Smart Sam Initial Impressions

2014-01-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
Update: on todays ride, which was much less windy, I could hear the Sams are louder than the Duremes, but still very smooth compared with most MTB tires. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, January 3, 2014 1:49:42 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: I meant to include that I'm now curious to see if

Re: [RBW] Tire Width and Performance

2014-01-04 Thread Patrick Moore
That's * laterally* stiff and *vertically* compliant. (Or is it the reverse?) On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: How many time have we read reviews composed of complete nonsense like a frame being stiff yet compliant? -- Burque (NM) Resumes that get

Re: [RBW] Re: FW: For Sale; Tom Ritchey fillet brazed LONG Frame, Fork, HS

2014-01-04 Thread iamkeith
Marc, As I said, no grievance or hard feelings whatsoever! At the price you sold it to me for, it was worth the risk and worth the effort, and I'm really happy with what it turned out to be - even if it wasn't my original vision. I have no regrets. As I said in that other thread, it now

Re: [RBW] A study in Slope in Pictures

2014-01-04 Thread Patrick Moore
Looks like fun (except for the cold). What is the difference between slope and grade? On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Slopes in pictures so rarely show how steep it actually is. Here is a study, using Theodolite to show the actual degree of the slope

Re: [RBW] A study in Slope in Pictures

2014-01-04 Thread Patrick Moore
Has anyone used this? https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/theodolite/id339393884?mt=8 Is it good for quickly finding approximate ... no sure if I want slopes or grades ... of the hills I ride? (I simply want to find out how steep my hills are. For reasons of self esteem.) Are there better ways for

[RBW] Re: DIY Lug Lining

2014-01-04 Thread Montclair BobbyB
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0f75QOpPTcs/UshP9_MjawI/EeY/2_6SwSjuPXw/s1600/photo-42.JPG Bill: I just used an ordinary (cheapo) 1/4 in brush, Red C-8 paint from Finesse Pinstriping (good quality, high-gloss enamel) and Striper pinstriping stencil tape (F-10, 3/32) This produces

Re: [RBW] Taller 26 Riders

2014-01-04 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Scott I noticed that you are selling your XOXO, what was the missing piece for you on that bike? Also, does anyone have any suggestions for 1.75-1.9 X 26 knobby tires? My XO-3 fits the 2 big apples gone but I tried some 2.1 knobby ties and it was clearly a no go. Tony -- You received this

Re: [RBW] A study in Slope in Pictures

2014-01-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
I'll let someone smarter than me delve into the details, but if you take the degree of a slope and get it's sin you have the percent of the grade. Since I'm (and most of us) more familiar with the % rather than the degree, I translate it. Yes, Theodolite is the app I used for the photo. It's

Re: [RBW] Taller 26 Riders

2014-01-04 Thread iamkeith
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 11:19:27 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote: Also, does anyone have any suggestions for 1.75-1.9 X 26 knobby tires? My XO-3 fits the 2 big apples gone but I tried some 2.1 knobby ties and it was clearly a no go. Tony 1.95 Kenda Small Block 8s fit on my '93

Re: [RBW] Tire Width and Performance

2014-01-04 Thread justinaugust
Here's the plan: We test our perceptive abilities after drinking wine. HOWEVER it will be a blind wine tasting. Which will affect our perception more??? -J, Snowdrunk in Philly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe

Re: [RBW] Taller 26 Riders

2014-01-04 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Keith was that 'not' with fenders? Either way would be OK... If I'm going knobby I think if rather go as plush as possible. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

Re: [RBW] Taller 26 Riders

2014-01-04 Thread iamkeith
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 11:46:55 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote: Keith was that 'not' with fenders? Either way would be OK... If I'm going knobby I think if rather go as plush as possible. Tony Yes, oops. NOT with fenders. If the XO-3 had a bit longer chainstays, it may even

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo frameset has arrived!

2014-01-04 Thread Jim
Really nice bike and I great job taking the pictures. Makes me want to order a new bike even if one is not really needed. Jim D Massachusetts On Friday, January 3, 2014 6:50:28 PM UTC-5, Paul G wrote: Okay folks, you asked for photos when it arrived so your wish is my command

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo frameset has arrived!

2014-01-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
Congrats! Gorgeous! With abandon, Patrick On Friday, January 3, 2014 4:50:28 PM UTC-7, Paul G wrote: Okay folks, you asked for photos when it arrived so your wish is my command https://app.box.com/s/85g0h65aqow3rusz1f2y. I had a couple add-ons brazed on in the form of downtube shifter

[RBW] Re: Tire Width and Performance from SCHWALBE

2014-01-04 Thread ted
As Jan Heine has often pointed out, his methodology is significantly different than that of most tire manufacturers. Despite that, what I get reading the article you linked to seems fairly consistent with what I think Jan has written. 1) All other things being equal a tire with lighter more

Re: [RBW] Tire Width and Performance

2014-01-04 Thread Bruce Herbitter
stiff, performance... Are we talking tires here or have some snowed in readers seen one too many Cialis commercials? On 1/4/2014 12:03 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: That's / laterally/ stiff and /vertically/ compliant. (Or is it the reverse?) On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Tim McNamara

Re: [RBW] Tire Width and Performance

2014-01-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
I doubt ABQ is snowed in. With abandon, the other Patrick On Saturday, January 4, 2014 1:19:23 PM UTC-7, Fullylugged wrote: stiff, performance... Are we talking tires here or have some snowed in readers seen one too many Cialis commercials? On 1/4/2014 12:03 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:

[RBW] Old and New Hunqapillar Tire Clearences

2014-01-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
My selfish motivation is to get the fattest tire I can on my existing Hunqapillar, which is a fancy paint (aka first generation) Hunqapillar, which apparently has less clearance than the newer, green Hunqas. With the 2.1” Smart Sams I just put on I have a solid amount of clearance, and I would

[RBW] Re: New bike siting: Cheviut/Cheviot/Chevrolet?

2014-01-04 Thread Joe Bernard
An interesting detail perhaps only my eye would notice or care about: In the non-racked profile shot you see that rear wheel wy back there with a full-wrap fender. For some reason I see old WWII motorcycle in that look, and it's very cool. So there ya go :) On Saturday, January 4, 2014

Re: [RBW] Tire Width and Performance

2014-01-04 Thread Patrick Moore
Bruce: let's hope it's not *vertically* compliant. Patrick Moore, back from a brief 11 mile ride in 62*F, sunny, and gusty Rio Rancho, NM. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.comwrote: stiff, performance... Are we talking tires here or have some snowed in

[RBW] Re: WTB Basket/ShopSack

2014-01-04 Thread Coconutbill
the basket/shopsack is super useful. IMO having a rectangular basket is helpful, as a basket excels at carrying rectangular items such as my Moog-ringmodulator... stuff like that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Tire Width and Performance from SCHWALBE

2014-01-04 Thread Patrick Moore
IIRC, Jan has asked aloud if there is a point where wider might begin to make a tire slower. Has this been answered? Also, has he or anyone else determined that a 23 mm Pro Race 3 is slower than a 25 mm on a very smooth road? A 19mm? On glass? In brief, is there a breadth below which an otherwise

Re: [RBW] Re: Tire Width and Performance from SCHWALBE

2014-01-04 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 01/04/2014 04:17 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: Also, has he or anyone else determined that a 23 mm Pro Race 3 is slower than a 25 mm on a very smooth road? He has tested the Pro2Race in all 3 sizes and found that; and as I recall, he quoted Michelin in the article as saying the same thing.

[RBW] Re: 1983 Stumpjumper Price drop-$400 shipped to the lower 48

2014-01-04 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Congratulations Joyce, you're the early front-runner for 2014 Mother of the Year... and your son is one lucky dude!!! Peace, BB On Friday, January 3, 2014 8:28:09 PM UTC-5, Linkbeak wrote: It's a birthday/Christmas present for my son. I'll let you all know what he thinks. Joyce -- You

[RBW] Re: Sam Hilborne and Brooks B17

2014-01-04 Thread Frank Brose
I was never a fan of proofhide. I've always used Obbenaufs ( since I found out about it) at least once a year sometimes twice and have never used a saddle cover. You might try going to the Obbenaufs website and see what they offer for leather treatment .My son who works outdoors in any and all

[RBW] Re: Sam Hilborne and Brooks B17

2014-01-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
It's hard to tell from the photo angles, but it looks like it is holding its shape well? If so, than it's just sweat aging and some Obenauf's LP will keep it doing just fine. https://www.obenaufs.com/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=30. I can't speak to Prooftide, but Obenauf's is

[RBW] Re: Looking at the Bullmoose to solve stiffness issues, viewpoints requested.

2014-01-04 Thread Brian Campbell
I have a set of the Riv Bullmoose bars and they are stiff. I don't think they would be high enough based on your set up. Maybe a set of Bullmoose Bosco? On Friday, January 3, 2014 11:10:30 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote: As you can (hopefully) see, I go for a pretty front-biased load on my

[RBW] Re: Sam Hilborne and Brooks B17

2014-01-04 Thread Joe Bernard
If you're more concerned about upkeep on your other saddles now, then saddle has only gotten wet from rain a few times needs to be addressed: Leather saddles are not intended to be rained on. The combination of a cover, plus fenders or some other way to protect the underside, are required to

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo frameset has arrived!

2014-01-04 Thread RoadieRyan
Beautiful- wow that is a great looking bike. Enjoy the ride On Friday, January 3, 2014 3:50:28 PM UTC-8, Paul G wrote: Okay folks, you asked for photos when it arrived so your wish is my command https://app.box.com/s/85g0h65aqow3rusz1f2y. I had a couple add-ons brazed on in the form of

[RBW] Re: Looking at the Bullmoose to solve stiffness issues, viewpoints requested.

2014-01-04 Thread justinaugust
Perhaps a set of CrMo Albatross would be a good stop? Maybe the flex is in the bars? -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] SolCal Ride for Saturday January 4, 2014

2014-01-04 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
Curtis, Thanks for organizing a very pleasant ride, with great sights, beer, and company. http://flic.kr/p/iVsR9b David G On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Curtis McKenzie cmcy...@gmail.com wrote: Planning a ride around San Diego Bay on Saturday 1/4/14. Meet at Liberty Station at the USS

[RBW] Re: Smart Sam Initial Impressions

2014-01-04 Thread Michael
Watch out for those mountain lions! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group,

Re: [RBW] Tire Width and Performance

2014-01-04 Thread Jan Heine
There was a test like that in Bicycle Guide, and it was very poorly done. There was only one tester, and he rode a bunch of bikes, each of them just once. So there was no back-to-back comparison, no going back to firm up impressions. When we did a similar test, double blind, two of our testers

[RBW] Re: Tire Width and Performance from SCHWALBE

2014-01-04 Thread Jan Heine
On Saturday, January 4, 2014 12:17:13 PM UTC-8, ted wrote: 3) For a given tire increasing pressure reduces rolling resistance. It depends what you call rolling resistance. If you define it as only the hysteretic losses within the tire, then it's true. However, if you are looking at the

Re: [RBW] Tire Width and Performance

2014-01-04 Thread Addison Wilhite
Here is a link to a bunch of Rivendell related articles but also includes the Bicycle Guide blind Mondonico steel frame test. Just called Mondotest.pdf on the site. https://sites.google.com/site/renorambler/system/app/pages/recentChanges Addison Wilhite, M.A. Academy of Arts, Careers and

[RBW] Re: Looking at the Bullmoose to solve stiffness issues, viewpoints requested.

2014-01-04 Thread Leslie
My first thought, is that you might prefer a dirt-drop stem I have one (w/moustache bars) on my Bomba, and it doesn't flex... I think the Bullmoose or the Boscomoose would be good, too; haven't tried 'em, and would be willing to; but just a dirt-drop stem might work -- You

[RBW] Re: Looking at the Bullmoose to solve stiffness issues, viewpoints requested.

2014-01-04 Thread Zack
i have never experienced stem flex so am not sure exactly what you mean. i will say that i have the boscomoose bars and they don't flex one bit, feel super solid. people that have ridden my bike who have regular bosco bars say there is a noticeable difference, that the bosco moose feel much

[RBW] Re: Smart Sam Initial Impressions

2014-01-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
Can't. They leap from above, go for the neck, and I'd never see it coming. But I don't get the connection. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, January 4, 2014 4:28:55 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Watch out for those mountain lions! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: [RBW] Re: Looking at the Bullmoose to solve stiffness issues, viewpoints requested.

2014-01-04 Thread Christopher Chen
I have regular boscos on my converted mountain bike, and the issue for me isn't flex so much, but the insane amount of leverage I can exert on the stem clamp. The clamp is down *solid* and I can still tweak it when I get out of the saddle to climb, etc. if I push really hard, so I don't. But if I

Re: [RBW] Re: Tire Width and Performance from SCHWALBE

2014-01-04 Thread ted
I would rather know how wide is wide enough (as opposed to how wide is too wide). It seems generally accepted that really low pressure results in more rolling resistance than somewhat more pressure does. Somebody (sorry to say I forget the proper citation to credit the appropriate party) did

Re: [RBW] Gränsfors Bruk Factory Tour vid

2014-01-04 Thread Leslie
Sweet video; I'd not thought about how it's done today, wouldn't mind to go see that -L On Saturday, January 4, 2014 10:54:56 AM UTC-5, AaronY wrote: Hey Bunch, I came across this on youtube last night and thought others might find it interesting like I did.

[RBW] New Roadeo frameset has arrived!

2014-01-04 Thread LBleriot
Congrats! There's no better feeling than getting a box from Riv with the cartoons drawn on the flaps. The frame looks awesome. Have fun with it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: [RBW] WTB Basket/ShopSack

2014-01-04 Thread Curtis McKenzie
Where do you find a Moog-ring modulator. I think I need one. Weirded the Coconut on our ride today. On Saturday, January 4, 2014, Coconutbill wrote: the basket/shopsack is super useful. IMO having a rectangular basket is helpful, as a basket excels at carrying rectangular items such as my

[RBW] Re: Tire Width and Performance from SCHWALBE

2014-01-04 Thread ted
Um yea Jan, hence the portion of the my original text between resistance and the period: ... (on smooth surface or neglecting suspension losses), but at very low pressure this change is larger than at higher pressures, and as pressure increases the effect becomes negligable. That increasing

[RBW] Re: Smart Sam Initial Impressions

2014-01-04 Thread Michael
You said those were mountain lion tracks in your pics. Got any wolves out there? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Smart Sam Initial Impressions

2014-01-04 Thread Michael
I'm talking about your mountain lion tracks pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/11223503266/in/photostream/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: Smart Sam Initial Impressions

2014-01-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
Ahhh. Thanks. I didn't remember those. Part of the joy of having poor short term memory. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, January 4, 2014 7:02:10 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: I'm talking about your mountain lion tracks pics:

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Sam Initial Impressions

2014-01-04 Thread Anne Paulson
Deacon, when I tried a Krampus, a bike with 3 tires, I didn't find it bouncy at all. And those tires are typically run at very low pressures, like 15 psi or less. Soon a Surly Krampus will be joining my stable. I'm looking forward to taking it bikepacking. On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Deacon

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Sam Initial Impressions

2014-01-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, Anne. I suspect the vertigo changes the definition of bouncy for me. I can't ride a suspension fork bike for the same reason. So I'm looking for the sweet spot of the widest tire that doesn't mess me up. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, January 4, 2014 7:11:48 PM UTC-7, Anne

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Sam Initial Impressions

2014-01-04 Thread Anne Paulson
I'm saying that the 3 tires were LESS bouncy than a narrow tire pumped to a high pressure. They just weren't bouncy at all; those 3 tires soak up the bumps. YMMV, of course. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Thanks, Anne. I suspect the vertigo changes the

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Sam Initial Impressions

2014-01-04 Thread ted
That's interesting Ann. How narrow and how high? Do the fat tires have more rubber in the sidewalls? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Sam Initial Impressions

2014-01-04 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks for clarifying that, Anne. For normal people you are right. Grin. 3 tires no doubt absorb more terrain. While I want to roll over stuff, there is a subtle bounce from the change in speed when pedaling in the power stroke and wide, low pressure tires bounce with that. That's what I'm

[RBW] Last Days of 2013 Ride - 22 photos over 3 days of riding

2014-01-04 Thread James Warren
Hi All, I had a nice trip to the Bay Area starting last Sunday, and my original intention was to join two rides (Esteban's and then Manny's), but for various reasons neither of these worked out for me. But I'm pretty lucky, and 4 days of great bike shenanigans happened anyway:

[RBW] Re: Tire Width and Performance from SCHWALBE

2014-01-04 Thread Jan Heine
Obviously, if your tire is flat, rolling resistance is very high. So there is a minimum pressure below which rolling resistance increases. In our testing, we found that this pressure was about at the point where the tire no longer cornered safely - pretty low! There also must be a maximum

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo frameset has arrived!

2014-01-04 Thread Don Compton
I road my Roadeo today from Ione to Plymouth and back. My Roadeo rocks. If you like steel bikes, the Roadeo is as good as it gets. Don On Friday, January 3, 2014 3:50:28 PM UTC-8, Paul G wrote: Okay folks, you asked for photos when it arrived so your wish is my command

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Sam Initial Impressions

2014-01-04 Thread Anne Paulson
I don't know exactly how narrow and high the Knard 3 tires are on the Rabbit Hole rims. They look round to me. I don't know how much rubber they have in the sidewalls, but since the tires weigh something like 2 pounds each, I think the answer is a lot. On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 6:45 PM, ted

[RBW] Re: Last Days of 2013 Ride - 22 photos over 3 days of riding

2014-01-04 Thread dougP
Jim: And thanks for posting. Sounds like time well spent, between family, friends riding. Which bike was the lucky one for this trip? dougP On Saturday, January 4, 2014 7:22:48 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote: Hi All, I had a nice trip to the Bay Area starting last Sunday, and my original

[RBW] Re: Last Days of 2013 Ride - 22 photos over 3 days of riding

2014-01-04 Thread dougP
Shoulda looked at the pix first! The Proto Pillar, I should have known. On Saturday, January 4, 2014 8:06:18 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote: Jim: And thanks for posting. Sounds like time well spent, between family, friends riding. Which bike was the lucky one for this trip? dougP On

[RBW] Re: Last Days of 2013 Ride - 22 photos over 3 days of riding

2014-01-04 Thread Michael
I think I would have so much fun in SF. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] WTT 46 Noodles for 55 Boscos

2014-01-04 Thread Conway Bennett
Like the subject says I want to trade my 1.5 year old used but not abused 46 Noodles for 55 Boscos. Fair winds, Captain Conway -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] A study in Slope in Pictures

2014-01-04 Thread Eli Daniel
Wow, of all topics to get me to de-lurk, it's this one! I've always naively assumed that % grade was just a fraction of 90 degrees -- eg, a 45 degree slope would be a 50% grade. If it is based on the sine of the angle (the ratio of vertical rise to distance along the road) as Patrick says, then

[RBW] Re: Smart Sam Initial Impressions

2014-01-04 Thread Bill Fulford
I agree. I ride the smart SAMs in the winter on the Hunqapillar. They are remarkably smooth and yet have a lot of grip. When I switch to the duremes my ride is quieter but not much faster. Either way both tires are excellent. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Carradice Barley mounting options for saddle without loops?

2014-01-04 Thread Dave Redmon
It's no name tubing I found in a hardware store. Stiff enough, cuts easily and lightweight. D On Saturday, January 4, 2014 1:24:01 AM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote: That's dynamite. What's the name of that tubing? Philip www.biketinker.com On Thursday, January 2, 2014 7:36:53 PM UTC-8,

[RBW] WTB: Rivendell Atlantis (61 cm) or Sam Hillborne (58 cm)

2014-01-04 Thread RL925
Happy New Year! I joined the group a few months ago and have enjoyed following the informative and positive discussions. I'm looking to buy my first Rivendell. After talking with the folks at Riv and several local Riv owners, I've narrowed my search to an Atlantis (61 cm) or Sam Hillborne (58

Re: [RBW] Re: Smart Sam Initial Impressions

2014-01-04 Thread ted
Sorry Ann, I don't think I asked my question properly. I think you said the 3 fat tires (Knard) were less bouncy than narrower tires at higher pressure. I was wondering what the width of the narrower tires you had in mind was, and what higher pressure was used in those narrower than 3 fat

Re: [RBW] Re: Last Days of 2013 Ride - 22 photos over 3 days of riding

2014-01-04 Thread Eric Norris
It's the cool Instagram filters that make you think that. If you lived there, you would have to sell all your bikes to pay the first month's rent: http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/new-numbers-show-san-francisco-has-nations-highest-rents/Content?oid=2626465 Eric N www.CampyOnly.com

[RBW] From the Ground Up - First Test Ride

2014-01-04 Thread Tom Virgil
Sorry I didn't get this done to ride with the SoCal guys this morning. Musta been good. I put away Christmas decorations at the behest of dear wife. But I was good and got it done early. I have not had time to add comments to flickr. But will. So here is the state of things on the first

[RBW] Can Riv geometry charts be accessed on the website?

2014-01-04 Thread James Warren
The link is still there on the site, but when I click on it, it doesn't show any charts. In blue where it says Geometry Charts: http://www.rivbike.com/category-s/788.htm I guess they were becoming obsolete with longer chainstays and at least one discontinued model. But does anyone know a

Re: [RBW] Can Riv geometry charts be accessed on the website?

2014-01-04 Thread Peter Morgano
Works on my gs4 On Jan 5, 2014 1:10 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: The link is still there on the site, but when I click on it, it doesn't show any charts. In blue where it says Geometry Charts: http://www.rivbike.com/category-s/788.htm I guess they were becoming

[RBW] Re: DIY Lug Lining

2014-01-04 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Nice product, but I much prefer a painted line to a tape. Besides, there's no trouble too great making my bicycle look the way I like it... no vanity in that, would you not agree? BB On Saturday, January 4, 2014 10:50:38 PM UTC-5, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: On Friday, January 3, 2014

[RBW] Re: New Roadeo frameset has arrived!

2014-01-04 Thread Paul G
The build is done except bar tape. The seat tube and head tube had to be reamed but all the threads were perfect. The RD hanger was perfectly aligned as were the rear dropouts, but the front dropouts needed a very slight tweaking. I'm really tired and will post photos as soon as I get them

[RBW] Re: Tire Width and Performance from SCHWALBE

2014-01-04 Thread ted
Thanks for the information Jan, Some of your comments elicit some questions. You say: a Grand Bois 700C x 32 mm (or Vittoria CX Corsa 25 mm) tire is as fast at 60 psi as it is at 200 psi. At moderately high pressures (110 psi or so), they actually were a little slower, but this is a minor

Re: [RBW] Can Riv geometry charts be accessed on the website?

2014-01-04 Thread Michael
This work? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AjehUKAztnO8dEFRVEYxUWpxeXNPMHZMeDZINmNUMWc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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