Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Addison Wilhite
I kind of feel like the revolution is over and we won. Anymore, while I can certainly find the carbon roadie types, they aren't living in the niche. Just like the extreme downhillers or whatever they are called. I just don't see a lot of riders so focused on 25mm tires that don't also accept

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Ron Mc
Every day, there are frightful sights in lycra on every bike path On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 2:18:24 AM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: Every runner knows those Damn walkers are just in the way  Must be winter. On Feb 25, 2015 2:50 AM, 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Jim Bronson
Guilty as charged. In fact I am definitely not an adherent to Grant's thoughts on cycling attire. I'm wearing plum-smuggling cycling shorts every time I ride, unless it's a very, very short ride. But unlike some folks, I don't feel any pressure to conform to the Unracer philosophy. It's just

[RBW] Re: Paul Brakes -- Wow!

2015-02-25 Thread Ron Mc
Putting in a plug here for Modern Bike. Andy has Paul Components in stock at about 30% off across the board. His service is excellent. On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 1:41:43 AM UTC-6, Mike Shaljian wrote: Indeed. Long-reach calipers was the obvious choice, don't think I'd bother

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Matthew J
No, Grant didn't invent the issue, but he has fed the flames, and kept it alive, and he has perpetuated a stereotype, and he has offended folks along the way. For no reason. And I assure you that it has affected his bottom line by marginalizing him. This appears to assume GP does what he

[RBW] WTT: edelux II for upside down version

2015-02-25 Thread lungimsam
Clayton, Peter White Cycles says they now have the upside down edeluxe II. There are two models of it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/25/2015 10:30 AM, Will wrote: so... was all that discomfort related clothes... or related to position on bike? Clothes. Cycling shoes eliminate foot pressure, cycling shorts have padding and no seams to create pressure ridges. The following year with no changes other than clothing I

[RBW] Re: bb/thread installation question

2015-02-25 Thread Ron Mc
I put in a bottom bracket yesterday. Just though I would share a simple technique to avoid cross threading. First off, reach through the other side and support the spindle end with a least a fingertip to help with the alignment. Turn the threads the wrong way until you feel a slight bump of

[RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Joe Bernard
When I started cycling in 1990 the landscape in Northern California was roadies in lycra, mountain bikers in lycra, and po' folks like me in street clothes on Goodwill beater bikes. There was no in between. Now there's a whole world of city bikes and country bikes and fixies and cargo bikes and

[RBW] Re: Klean Kanteen Conversion Questons

2015-02-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, Mark. Yes, I'd be using the brushed stainless uninsulated bottle as my pot. I've had this as a plan for years and am just getting to the conversion now. For the mug, I'd just be drinking out of the insulated metal bottle (removing the standard top). I'd be getting the sport top for the

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Ron Mc
Mark, I'm with you on this. In the Texas summer, cooling and evaporation is everything. Padding = insulation = chaffing. Last summer I did three long rides in a row (180km, 130km and 110km back to back) in the thinnest merino boxers and cotton shorts I could find. I was next to naked.

Re: [RBW] Re: Klean Kanteen Conversion Questons

2015-02-25 Thread Mark Reimer
Ooo I'm going to have to try that one day! On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Very exacting technique is required to boil water in a KK: 1. fill water into brushed stainless bottle. 2. place bottle on or above heat source (try this at home

[RBW] Re: WTB Jitensha Bar

2015-02-25 Thread Ron Mc
that's why I went with the MAP bars - they're an inch longer on each side. On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 9:21:48 AM UTC-6, DS wrote: Check out these: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/handlebars/vo-postino-handlebar-22-2mm.html I was trying to decide b/w these and the

Re: [RBW] Re: Solvent tank for drivetrain cleaning

2015-02-25 Thread RoadieRyan
I have been using an ultrasonic cleaner I got on Amazon for the last couple years and love it as it gets to all the cracks and crevices I would have a hard time reaching with a tooth brush. It will do almost all of the drive train components as well as the stem and seat post (if they aren't

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Will
Why do you need to wear special clothes to ride? Not arguing, just curious. I've been riding for about 50 years. Newspaper bikes as a before teenage years, then Raleigh racers in college. Shorts and tee shirt have always worked for me. What's the advantage of bike shop attire? On Wednesday,

[RBW] Re: WTB Jitensha Bar

2015-02-25 Thread DS
Check out these: http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/handlebars/vo-postino-handlebar-22-2mm.html I was trying to decide b/w these and the Jitensha a while back. The Postino's are a little longer/wider from what I remember. On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 10:55:26 PM UTC-8, Amit

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Mark Reimer
I disagree with the previous statement. I've done many century rides in good quality (Assos) lyrca kit on a number of saddles. Usually around the 60 mile mark I'll start to get a bit sore. By the end of the ride, it's a constant dull ache. Doesn't matter if I use different brand of

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Joe Bernard
I learned from Grant that seamless shorts/pants and a good saddle are more important than padding. I actually got more comfortable on my usual 20-40-mile rides when I switched to wool unpadded underwear and Swrve baggy shorts; tight, padded lycra didn't work well for me. I can't vouch for what

[RBW] Re: Klean Kanteen Conversion Questons

2015-02-25 Thread Mark Reimer
Patrick, I use both these on a daily basis, have been for about six months straight now. I use the 27oz/800ml for water. Never tried using it for boiling. Am I understanding you correctly that you would use the actual bottle as your boiling pot? I Couldn't do that as I have painted/colored

Re: [RBW] Re: Klean Kanteen Conversion Questons

2015-02-25 Thread Mark Reimer
Can you elaborate on this? I've had this as a plan for years and am just getting to the conversion now. Is there something special you've got to do to use a K.K. as a pot? I doubt you'd ever torque the bottle mounts off. You could definitely break a bottle cage though. The straps/velcro seem

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Ron Mc
some of the arguments above need clarification. Racing Crowd should be defined as the general trend of the industry. It actually doesn't include actual racers. Rather, it's a droves of cyclists who leave a bike shop with carbon and lycra, and an industry pushing them out the door that way.

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/25/2015 09:41 AM, Will wrote: Why do you need to wear special clothes to ride? Not arguing, just curious. I've been riding for about 50 years. Newspaper bikes as a before teenage years, then Raleigh racers in college. Shorts and tee shirt have always worked for me. What's the advantage

[RBW] Klean Kanteen Conversion Questons

2015-02-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
What is your experience with insulated/uninsulated Klean Kanteen bottles. Has anyone used the insulated as a camping mug? Used the single-walled one as your water boiling pot? Carried a 40 or 64 oz one in the velcro on/Irish strap secured cage manner? More details: I am now converting to

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Will
so... was all that discomfort related clothes... or related to position on bike? On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 8:53:57 AM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 02/25/2015 09:41 AM, Will wrote: Why do you need to wear special clothes to ride? Not arguing, just curious. I've been riding

RE: [RBW] Re: WTB Jitensha Bar

2015-02-25 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
The Postinos are pretty nice bars – I’m using them on a new charity auction mixte build now. Very zippy looking, pic here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/15764491503/ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of DS Sent:

[RBW] Re: FS: 55cm Cheviot and other things

2015-02-25 Thread DS
The Cheviot found a nice new home last night. Here's what left: Almost complete Noodle Cockpit w/ stem, brake levers, cable housing (this was on a 51cm Sam and the housing is cut for that), and pods for shifters in the bar ends (but not the actual shifters) nicely wrapped with brown cloth wrap

Re: [RBW] Re: Klean Kanteen Conversion Questons

2015-02-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
Very exacting technique is required to boil water in a KK: 1. fill water into brushed stainless bottle. 2. place bottle on or above heat source (try this at home kids!) 3. wait for it to boil 4. use gloves or pot holder (tangier works well) to prevent cooking your hands when removing bottle. 5.

[RBW] Re: 1x9 setup because I felt like it

2015-02-25 Thread RoadieRyan
I did with this with my all rounder bike, a Handsome Devil, about 3 years ago and have not looked back. With a 36t crank and an 11-36 9 speed cassette I have the range I need for getting around my hilly neighborhood with out fussing with a FD. I bought a Paul's chain keeper but have never

[RBW] Re: Looking for North Coast beta: Lost Coast loop

2015-02-25 Thread Ant Ritchey
I believe you and your crew are shootin' for a different route than I'm familiar with but I found THIS PAGE http://northcoastbikerides.blogspot.com/2011/08/lost-coast-tour.html very helpful. I was in the midst of a solo jaunt from Portland to SF and had taken the day off in Eureka. On a whim

[RBW] Re: Klean Kanteen Conversion Questons

2015-02-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
Excellent, Liesl! Thank you for the great report. Yeah, I'm thinking of going with a wire cone/bandanna filter system, which would make the pre-ground coffee system wondrously small and something I would actually take and use. I love the aeropress, but it is on the bulky side for ultra compact

[RBW] NYT blog entry: Should Athletes Eat Fat or Carbs? [EBDJ related]

2015-02-25 Thread Robert F. Harrison
I saw this today on the NYT site and thought some here might find it interesting. http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/02/25/should-athletes-eat-fat-or-carbs It doesn't say much that folks who've read EBDJ won't be familiar with. The 80% fat bit seems a bit more than I'm willing to do. I do track

Re: [RBW] Re: Klean Kanteen Conversion Questons

2015-02-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
Here's the firebox I use: http://www.fireboxstove.com/5-inch-folding-firebox With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 9:20:18 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote: Ooo I'm going to have to try that one day! On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Matthew J
The body and the riding style must have some play in this as well. Presumably many of the loaded cycle touring Europeans one sees on the Eurovelo routes are riding multi-day. They probably do not ride a full 100+km every day and likely stop more frequently than someone attempting a timed ride

Re: [RBW] Re: Klean Kanteen Conversion Questons

2015-02-25 Thread Mark Reimer
Solution for aeropress! - Use the step-down funnel it comes with. I make coffee in my insulated bottle everyday with an Aeropress. Works perfectly! On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: Hi Deacon Patrick! Erin and I have used the 18 ounce insulated KK as a mug for a

Re: [RBW] Re: 1x9 setup because I felt like it

2015-02-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
Darn it! False advertising. My apologies, Anton. Your part of the country seems fantastic. I hope to roll through there sometime. Your photos of the region are beyond inspiring. Bill On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 9:56:48 AM UTC-8, Anton Tutter wrote: When I first saw this thread

[RBW] Re: Klean Kanteen Conversion Questons

2015-02-25 Thread velomann
I use the KK bottles all the time now, insulated and uninsulated. My personal favorite is the smallest size 12 oz insulated bottle. It's what I brew into for the Coffee Outside excursions, and I find generally the perfect size for when I'm not sharing coffee. We also have the next two larger

[RBW] Re: Adopted a stray

2015-02-25 Thread Wayne Naha
A beautiful bike! I would so love to have gotten it, but it was simply too big for me. Can't wait for more pics! Congratulations on scoring a wonderful ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group

[RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Well, I've just typed out and deleted about four different comments to this thread. None of them did anything other than unearth and compound arguments. Rather than rehash and empower those, I found myself stepping back and considering perspectives in the original-letter-to-the-editor's

[RBW] Re: Klean Kanteen Conversion Questons

2015-02-25 Thread Bob E
Patrick, I use the KK 20-oz. insulated bottle; it does tend to fall out of those standard bottle cages -- it's bounced along the road a few times and has the dings to show for it -- but it's pretty resilient and it has held up well. In the Iris cage, however, it is very secure -- it hasn't

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Anne Paulson
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:38 AM, Addison Wilhite addisonwilh...@gmail.com wrote: I kind of feel like the revolution is over and we won. Anymore, while I can certainly find the carbon roadie types, they aren't living in the niche. Just like the extreme downhillers or whatever they are called.

Re: [RBW] Re: 1x9 setup because I felt like it

2015-02-25 Thread Anton Tutter
When I first saw this thread title, I got excited because I thought it might have to do with my little corner of the Catskill Mountains, in Delaware County, NY (named after the Delaware River, which begins there and flows to Delaware State via Pennsylvania). Then I read that it was in

[RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Ron Mc
Jim, that's fair enough. Whatever works is the correct solution, but even that is subjective and personal - what works for one doesn't work for another and vise-versa. On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: Well, I've just typed out and deleted about

[RBW] Planning first longish bike tour in Oregon. Suggestions?

2015-02-25 Thread Mark Reimer
Hi friends, So I've mentioned in other posts that I plan to ride the Oregon Outback this year, May 22-24. As luck would have it, I've managed to secure the full week prior off from work, as well as a day or two after. So now I'm looking to fly out to Portland on May 16th, and leave on the

[RBW] Re: Klean Kanteen Conversion Questons

2015-02-25 Thread Liesl
Hi Deacon Patrick! Erin and I have used the 18 ounce insulated KK as a mug for a bunch of years at this point—at least 5. Camping, biking, overseas, air travel, car travel, boring conferences, etc. We've both come to regard them as constant companions. About 3 years ago while we were in the

[RBW] Re: Klean Kanteen Conversion Questons

2015-02-25 Thread Liesl
Mike, thanks for most excellent funnel tip for the Areopress! And yes, the Snowpeak stacking cups are fantastic (and hard to find and pricey). Correction: ours are the 12 ounce size. Rarely if ever feel like I need a bigger size and like the more compact size for a backpack,

[RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Well, I've just typed out and deleted about four different comments to this thread. None of them did anything other than unearth and compound arguments. Rather than rehash and empower those, I found myself stepping back and considering perspectives in the original-letter-to-the-editor's

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Mark Reimer
someone will explain to her that her bike is wrong cue *forehead smacking into desk* On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:38 AM, Addison Wilhite addisonwilh...@gmail.com wrote: I kind of feel like the revolution is over

[RBW] FS: FSA Metropolis Patterson crankset for your Quickbeam

2015-02-25 Thread qwerty
Hi Folks, Awhile back these cranks were discussed here as an option for a front shift on Quickbeams. I purchased this one and used it for a short while, but have since converted to another setup. Thought there might be interest on here since there are a number of you with Quickbeams ( ot other

[RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
I loved that squeeking mouse at the base of a big waterfall image myself, and am thankful to Grant for being that mouse (and for the internet that helps the squeak for far!) for helping me find the fun in biking and even for making biking possible for me (the other frames I rode took a lot of

Re: [RBW] FS: FSA Metropolis Patterson crankset for your Quickbeam

2015-02-25 Thread qwerty
Patrick, It worked well for me during my short experiment. I didn't notice any drag in either of the two ratios. I can't really speak about chain slop since I didn't use it in fixed gear mode (and not sure I would recommend it for that, given the stresses involved). I can say there is less drag

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Patrick Moore
Paul and Jim: from what I observe around me in ABQ, NM, which is a cycling-enthusiast city, is that there are all kinds of riders riding all kinds of things, but I see more than a few fat middle aged people slowly riding carbon fiber racing bikes in tight lycra kit on the bike path. Now that may

Re: [RBW] FS: FSA Metropolis Patterson crankset for your Quickbeam

2015-02-25 Thread Patrick Moore
How well do those things work? Do you notice drag? Is there drivetrain slop? Is there more drag or less than with hub gears? I wonder if there is less, since -- this is a question -- wouldn't the upgeared character of a hub gear also upgear the drag? I think such gear systems are very interesting

[RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread drew beckmeyer
well said jim. i think a rational skeptic's eye put to either side shows that a lot of the gear and the clothes and the style is more about taste than black and white better or worse. i definitely wont wear lycra for a host of reasons, but i also sometimes roll my eyes at seersucker knickers

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Chris Chen
It finds ramparts and entrenchments where many of us see only expansive fields. Suggests battle lines which would put many of us at odds with ourselves. Hear Hear On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I've just typed out and deleted about four

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Addison Wilhite
I don't live in Silicon Valley. However, in the Reno/Tahoe areas we have multiple club rides that are going to be made up of the types of kits/bikes you mention. But that is only a snapshot of the type of riding those people do. That may be the perfect set up for a fast road ride of 30-50 miles

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Anne Paulson
Good to hear that's what's going on in Reno/Tahoe. But I've been a member of my club for 30 years, so I know the other members. They haven't got Fargos sitting in their garages. They're mostly afraid of dirt, and they cancel rides *if the roads are wet*. No, I am not making that up; they are

[RBW] Re: Klean Kanteen Conversion Questons

2015-02-25 Thread Shawn Granton
I've been using Kleen Kanteen for years, both uninsulated for bicycle water bottles and the insulated for a coffee mug (and yes, hate the coffee mug lid so I just use the regular screwtop.) I also use Hydro Flask, which are also good. Haven't used them for boiling water, though. As for bottle

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Liesl
I was in my early 40's when I returned to biking. The LBS in San Francisco didn't try to sell me a race bike, but it was clear that they thought if I didn't get a road/race bike, then I needed a Mountain Bike. I bought a Kona Fire Mountain and didn't really ride it much either in the Bay

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Patrick Moore
Well, not necessarily bike shop attire, but cycling-specific attire: less chafing, less binding, better coverage (I hate low-waisted pants that pull down, and short tops that pull up); less annoying flapping (windy, here); adapts well to changes in temperature, both external and internal; doesn't

[RBW] Re: WTT: edelux II for upside down version

2015-02-25 Thread Jan Heine
They are already listed, but not yet in stock. ETA is late March. Since we were the instigator behind the project, we'll get them as well once they are available. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. www.compasscycle.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ On Wednesday, February 25,

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
I really think we're in the golden-age of awesome cycling right now! I believe that at this point, based on my personal anecdotal observations, so therefore 100% valid, a lot of riding is happening! And all kinds of people are riding all kinds of bikes wearing all kinds of things. So now that

[RBW] Re: Looking for North Coast beta: Lost Coast loop

2015-02-25 Thread Neil
Thanks for the link, Ant! I had seen that blog before, but only the Tour of the Unknown Coast listing. That ride looks epic! Gotta get that one on the list, I love love love mixed terrain riding. Cheers! On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 9:01:35 AM UTC-8, Ant Ritchey wrote: I believe you

Re: [RBW] Re: 1x9 setup because I felt like it

2015-02-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/25/2015 12:56 PM, Anton Tutter wrote: When I first saw this thread title, I got excited because I thought it might have to do with my little corner of the Catskill Mountains, in Delaware County, NY (named after the Delaware River, which begins there and flows to Delaware State via

RE: [RBW] Re: 1x9 setup because I felt like it

2015-02-25 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
HEY! Enough with the Blue Hen bashing! ;-) -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Palincsar Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 3:36 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: 1x9

[RBW] Re: Planning first longish bike tour in Oregon. Suggestions?

2015-02-25 Thread Shawn Granton
Hey Mark- Welcome to Oregon! But I noticed that your plans don't seem to give any time for, y'know, exploring Portland itself. I can tell you from experience that Portland is slightly different than Winnipeg. ;-) Anyways, I think that a North Coast Loop would be good option to get ocean and

[RBW] Re: Solvent tank for drivetrain cleaning

2015-02-25 Thread 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch
It's worth doing a scan of the ebay results for parts washer: http://www.ebay.com/sch/Tools-/631/i.html?_nkw=parts+washer This 3.5 gal bench-top unit sounds like it has the right features, $80 shipped:

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread ascpgh
The right tool for the job, and the humbleness to recognize when such are necessary. Folks really do take themselves too seriously. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 9:53:57 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 02/25/2015 09:41 AM, Will wrote: Why do you need to

Re: [RBW] FS: FSA Metropolis Patterson crankset for your Quickbeam

2015-02-25 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks; interesting gizmo. Interesting too that you sense less drag than for the S3X. If it looked more like a Pro 5 Vis or A R Herse crank I'd be interested. On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:19 PM, qwerty mike.gilles...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, It worked well for me during my short experiment. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Planning first longish bike tour in Oregon. Suggestions?

2015-02-25 Thread Mark Reimer
Thanks so much! That is very helpful. I should have mentioned, I've been to Portland before. Just once. I was on a motorcycle tour and stopped at a friends house. I stayed for the day and he took me around. It's a lovely place, definitely need to visit for longer some time! Your route seems

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Brewster Fong
On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 1:42:01 PM UTC-8, ascpgh wrote: The right tool for the job, and the humbleness to recognize when such are necessary. Folks really do take themselves too seriously. Agree! I love these types of threads! You see all sides. I'm from the camp that if CF

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Leslie
One thing I think is a factor in a lot of this, is socioeconomics. Maybe I'm wrong, or, maybe not where you are, but, at least for my neck of the woods. (my neck of the woods being, a non-urban center, small-town, car-centric region where everyone over 15 is expected to have a car or

[RBW] Renewing a Canvas and Leather Bag

2015-02-25 Thread Eric Norris
I have become the owner of a somewhat beausaged Berthoud bag, and I wonder if this group might have suggestions for making it look somewhat newer. Should I throw it in the washing machine? Scrub it with a brush? And then what? Rewax it? Thanks in advance! --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com

[RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Don Compton
I own a Mini Cooper and see a similar thing in the group. As new , the cars handle so well. But owners look at racecars that are very low and think that you have to have that look and the change will surely improve the handling. Well, maybe not, ( probably not). Oh well On Tuesday, February

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Mike Schiller
this ^^ is the first thing that makes sense in this whole thread. There are all kinds of fish in this giant fishbowl. Some wear sandals and baggy shorts...that's not me. Lycra/wool shorts have a place for performance riding, On tour, some loose fitting over-shorts are more appropriate.

[RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread dougP
That was my feeling. She seemed to be reading too much into Just Ride and projecting her own interpretation. I read the letter scratched my head, not understanding why she seemed so put out. dougP On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 at 3:45:57 PM UTC-8, Chris in Redding, Ca. wrote: Hey All,

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread dan gee
I can't remember who first stated it in this epic thread, but I'll agree that Grant's response was a little disingenuous-- Just Ride is definitely not a kumbaya, just-do-your-own-thing get along gang book. It says in many places that people who use clipless shoes, or wear lycra, or are more

[RBW] Re: 1x9 setup because I felt like it

2015-02-25 Thread dougP
I talked to a guy who crossed the US self contained on an 11-34 9 speed with IIRC 40t single ring. It seems once you get to a 3:1 range, a bit of patience walking some hills covers the rest. May try it some day but for now I'll hang onto my triple. dougP On Sunday, February 22, 2015 at

[RBW] Re: Looking for North Coast beta: Lost Coast loop

2015-02-25 Thread dougP
These will be short-mileage days, but I'm not complaining. Short mileage but Quality Miles. A couple of years ago we did Ferndale down to Ave of the Giants then over Panther Gap to Honeydew, up to Petrolia over a couple of serious climbs back to Ferndale in 2 days. It was only 100 miles but

[RBW] Re: Renewing a Canvas and Leather Bag

2015-02-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
For the leather: coconut oil and beeswax combined is fantastic. For the canvas: don't wash in the washing machine. Damp cloth, stiff brush, and then the same as above, but heavier on the beeswax. Or buy Filson's re-proofing wax. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 7:47:14

[RBW] Re: Renewing a Canvas and Leather Bag

2015-02-25 Thread Deacon Patrick
I should mention that to combine the beeswax and coconut oil, I do a cheep double boiler system of a cast iron skillet filled half full with water, place an old glass jar with the beeswax in it in and put on medium heat till it boils. Put the bag in the oven at 200-250˚F. Then work the wax oil

Re: [RBW] Re: Renewing a Canvas and Leather Bag

2015-02-25 Thread Eric Norris
Thanks! --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On Feb 25, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: For the leather: coconut oil and beeswax combined is fantastic. For the canvas: don't wash in the washing machine. Damp cloth, stiff

Re: [RBW] FS: FSA Metropolis Patterson crankset for your Quickbeam

2015-02-25 Thread Jim Bronson
Pretty interesting, I run a 44/28 now so these gear ratios would be about perfect. But I don't really want to spend $150 on it when I have a perfectly functional crankset. On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:03 PM, qwerty mike.gilles...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, Awhile back these cranks were

[RBW] FS: Nitto Handlebars, Shimano, VO front rack, Nitto platrack, Schmidt halogen lights

2015-02-25 Thread Dave
Marks bar and brifters are spoken for, but all the rest available. If you're interested in something shipped, be in touch. If you're interested in something and my price is too high, let me know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 02/25/2015 05:39 PM, Brewster Fong wrote: Now, this is nothing but anedotal and just one example, but for my buddy, the right tool got him going! I don't care what it was made out of, but the supposedly stiff, uncomfortable aluminum frame road bike got him hooked and we love it! Some of

Re: [RBW] Re: Planning first longish bike tour in Oregon. Suggestions?

2015-02-25 Thread Eric Norris
Not sure where you’re initial starting point is, but you might want to consider taking the Amtrak Cascades train from Portland to Seattle. It’s a beautiful train ride, and the Amtrak trains have a special place in the baggage car for bicycles. You’ll end up in downtown Seattle at the historic

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Patrick Moore
Brewster Fong bfd...@gmail.com wrote: Btw, for all you paleo lovers, you'll hate this guy! While dropping 30lbs, he still eats like a pig and that includes massive amounts of noodles, rice and bread (hey, a guy's got to carbo load!)... Kudos to him! I wish I had a 24 oz beer right now with

Re: [RBW] Re: 1x9 setup because I felt like it

2015-02-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
Exactly The campfire song I learned included lyrics: What did Della wear? She wore a New Jersey. Why did Callie phone ya? She called to ask How-a-ya On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 4:07:46 PM UTC-8, Justin August wrote: Delawhere? -J -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: 1x9 setup because I felt like it

2015-02-25 Thread Bill Lindsay
YES!!! On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 4:28:00 PM UTC-8, Pudge wrote: If Miss Issippi asked Miss Ouri for her New Jersey, what would Della wear? Idaho, Alaska. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Bill

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Mark Reimer
Haha I laughed out loud when picturing that On Feb 25, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Doug Williams salg...@minbaritm.com wrote: There are many riders who can NOT conceive of going for a bike ride without their clipless shoes, jersey, the whole kit. How sad! I mean...there isn't anything wrong with

Re: [RBW] In search of the Delaware Gear

2015-02-25 Thread Joe Bunik
https://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/16645056811/ My RockComboStreetShredder has a 9x2 Delaware of ~76.5 and ~61.5, depending if it is running in town or country mode. We are using a 36/26 rings up front, and an 12-25 or 11-32 spread in the back. It's a pretty tilted spin-forward

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Brewster Fong
On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 6:21:59 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote: Guilty as charged. In fact I am definitely not an adherent to Grant's thoughts on cycling attire. I'm wearing plum-smuggling cycling shorts every time I ride, unless it's a very, very short ride. But unlike some

RE: [RBW] Re: 1x9 setup because I felt like it

2015-02-25 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
If Miss Issippi asked Miss Ouri for her New Jersey, what would Della wear? Idaho, Alaska. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lindsay Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 7:23 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re:

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Eric Daume
I wonder sometimes if the basic image of people getting railroaded into buying a race bike for general riding is still true, if it ever was. Grant compares his bikes to MCFRBs, but a more apt comparison is probably a... hybrid. Big clearances, upright positioning, fenders, racks, etc. And that's

[RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Joe Bernard
A. Thanks for the sarcasm. B. There certainly were not a plethora of English 3-speeds running around here 25 years ago, and those hybrids mimicked the same riding position and drivetrains of MTBs. Also, the mid-'90s Globe was a sales failure, as Mike Sinyard addressed some years later when

RE: [RBW] Re: 1x9 setup because I felt like it

2015-02-25 Thread Justin August
Delawhere? -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Goshen Peter
One way to know your message has really gotten out there is when some people you don't know start to genuinely hate you, hahaha! On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Brewster Fong bfd...@gmail.com wrote: Btw, for all you paleo lovers, you'll hate this

Re: [RBW] Re: Planning first longish bike tour in Oregon. Suggestions?

2015-02-25 Thread Eric Norris
P.S. That should have been “your” starting point. Darn autocorrect ... --Eric N campyonly...@me.com www.CampyOnly.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy Blog: http://CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com On Feb 25, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Not sure where you’re initial starting

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: FSA Metropolis Patterson crankset for your Quickbeam

2015-02-25 Thread qwerty
Good questions... Crank length is 170 and it includes the proprietary bottom bracket. Mike On 2/25/15, 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Very intriguing. Almost ... tempting. Fascinating piece of equipment. Mike, are you including a BB? What is the crank

[RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread 'pb' via RBW Owners Bunch
On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 7:06:34 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: When I started cycling in 1990 the landscape in Northern California was roadies in lycra, mountain bikers in lycra, and po' folks like me in street clothes on Goodwill beater bikes. There was no in between. Hmmmn,

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

2015-02-25 Thread Doug Williams
There are many riders who can NOT conceive of going for a bike ride without their clipless shoes, jersey, the whole kit. How sad! I mean...there isn't anything wrong with wearing your kit to go on a serious bike ride. But for a short ride, you wind up spending more time dressing and undressing

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