[RBW] Re: Bizarrely on topic: AL absorption through skin

Ha! If it's any consolation, winter's always put shoes on my feet. Grin. Unfortunately, I'm leaning that way all on my own to such an extent that I debated starting this thread at all as I wasn't sure it would change what I am doing. It's been a frustrating summer not getting out anywhere close

[RBW] My New Roadeo

After someone had questions about Roadeos on the IBOB group, I thought I would give and update. Over the years ( 63 yo) I have had so many bikes. I never raced, just was an active club rider. A few centuries a year and mostly 35-50 mile rides. Okay I am an old fart, but the stability of Grant's

[RBW] Re: Recent Blug post; no date given, but perhaps it's today's, 0915.

Christopher Murray wrote: > > The public shaming received from Grant is both cowardly and shameful. If > you don't want to replace it then tell the customer and if you do want to > replace it then do it graciously. I have handled hundreds (maybe thousands) > or returns for both good and bad

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr. on the Blug

If I end up with a Clem, (and odds-are that I will), I want it to say Clem. It's got the best decal-slogan of all time "A Tough Bike to Love". More exciting from the BLUG is Nitto Frames! I never knew that was a thing! On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 5:24:45 PM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote: >

[RBW] Re: Bizarrely on topic: AL absorption through skin

I think we should say yes just to get Deac to wear shoes when he rides On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 12:53:47 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > Anyone know about if the skin (specifically soles of the feet) can absorb > aluminum via riding barefoot? > > Here’s what prompts the bizarre

Re: [RBW] Re: Recent Blug post; no date given, but perhaps it's today's, 0915.

Cost will be a duesy! On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 7:43 PM, jpp wrote: > I am sure the nitto frames will be amazing, but I cannot imagine the cost. > > > On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 9:34:16 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> >> A new Reader! Frankly, as much as I

[RBW] Re: Recent Blug post; no date given, but perhaps it's today's, 0915.

I don't think you can call it a public shaming when no one has been named. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Bizarrely on topic: AL absorption through skin

I understand your concern but doubt that the concentrations being transmitted are significant. My uncle Charlie studies how chemicals indoors end up in us, focusing mostly on phthalates transmitted through the skin and breathing. [And he and my aunt Lulu are longtime Riv fans and handed down

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr. on the Blug

There is much to be said for buying a bike that someone has seriously thought thru & made sure all the details were gonna work as intended. Not to mention someone with decades of experience. The best bikes are the ones where you really don't notice the details that make it so nice. I never

[RBW] Re: Recent Blug post; no date given, but perhaps it's today's, 0915.

I had a silver shifter that died and looked identical to the one pictured. Took about 6 or 7 Seattle winters to kill it. I guess you could rip Grant for sharing what happens behind the scenes but isn't that what he's always done...might not fly at the "corporation" but it's refreshing to me. I

[RBW] Re: Recent Blug post; no date given, but perhaps it's today's, 0915.

In regards to the Silver shifter. Many, many things (especially high quality things) come with a "lifetime guaranty". No company actually thinks their product is going to last the lifetime of the purchaser, instead it is for the lifetime of the product purchased. Most companies leave it up to

[RBW] Re: Recent Blug post; no date given, but perhaps it's today's, 0915.

I don't really know about the post being cowardly, and that demand was very rude/ridiculous, but seeing the whole thing aired publicly makes me uncomfortable. I agree that a business should keep their personal opinions about customers (even when customers are crazy demanding) private. -- You

[RBW] Recent Blug post; no date given, but perhaps it's today's, 0915.

A new Reader! Frankly, as much as I like Bicycle Quarterly, I like the Reader better, at least, as long as it has at least 30 pages. I look forward to this! The word is duesy, from Duesenberg, at one point the *ne plus ultra* of American automobiles. Reader 44 might/should actually appear this

[RBW] Recent Blug post; no date given, but perhaps it's today's, 0915.

That Silver letter is a duesy. Somebody rode that shifter a lot and put it away wet, then seemed surprised that it's a mechanical piece which wears over time. Surprise, douchebag! I think the Clems coming with clear-coated decals worked out better on the long wrong. I've applied replacement

[RBW] Re: Recent Blug post; no date given, but perhaps it's today's, 0915.

Regarding the shifter, Grant makes the point that lots of people who've grown up with so much privilege have never actually had the experience of wearing out things. So much new stuff comes out so often that they are used to just getting the latest & greatest, shoving the old one to the back

[RBW] Re: Bizarrely on topic: AL absorption through skin

Handlebar tape is an excellent idea, Philip! Skateboard deck tape came right off. I've thought of screwing rubber sheeting on, but at that point I may as well put on my ZEMgear shoes. Hm. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 7:00:20 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote: > >

[RBW] Clem Smith Jr. on the Blug

The details are: 1) The complete bikes *and* frames are coming with decals pre-applied, and clear coated. They will say Clem Smith Jr or Clementine as appropriate. Some kind of mis-conception at the factory. They thought it some kind of gigantic mistake to not put decals on. You can still

[RBW] Re: Bizarrely on topic: AL absorption through skin

Even though aluminum is the third most abundant element in the earth's crust, it's always naturally found in a compoud with something else. It takes humans and electricity to get pure chunks you can rub on your feet. If I can find my roll of skateboard grip tape, I'll send you a couple

[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr. on the Blug

The Nitto frames are exciting. They kept that secret well, didn't they! On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 8:39:55 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote: > > If I end up with a Clem, (and odds-are that I will), I want it to say > Clem. It's got the best decal-slogan of all time "A Tough Bike to Love".

Re: [RBW] Re: Recent Blug post; no date given, but perhaps it's today's, 0915.

That's for sure! On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 9:44:41 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Cost will be a duesy! > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

[RBW] Re: Recent Blug post; no date given, but perhaps it's today's, 0915.

I am sure the nitto frames will be amazing, but I cannot imagine the cost. On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 9:34:16 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: > > > A new Reader! Frankly, as much as I like Bicycle Quarterly, I like the > Reader better, at least, as long as it has at least 30 pages. I look

[RBW] Re: Nitto factory unicycle seat testing

er, Bridgestone factory unicycle testing, I mean ... On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 9:40:00 PM UTC-4, jeffrey kane wrote: > > That it happens at all. That adults consider it necessary -- and then > cobble together a contraption to achieve it -- is simply a beautiful thing. > -- You received

[RBW] Clem Smith Jr. on the Blug

Totally. I have made a few clemish bikes, in pre-clem days and am working on another one now. Some have been really cool, but all have cost more than intended, had weird/unexpected obstacles, and never quite rode like a rivHigh bottom bracket, smallish mtb size frames and variable top

[RBW] Clem Smith Jr. on the Blug

my Clem is intended to introduce my 3 boys to the 26 inch size as they grow into it, one by one. I've had a little bit of a hard time justifying it, but a couple of years each will help. Also, they've only Ever gotten to ride old CL finds so I think they deserve a nice bike for one of the

[RBW] Nitto factory unicycle seat testing

That it happens at all. That adults consider it necessary -- and then cobble together a contraption to achieve it -- is simply a beautiful thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Re: FS: Marathon Supreme 700x50 and Thomson Elite Dropper

I'll take the tires if you still have them and will take PayPal (I pay the fees). On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 11:04:30 AM UTC-5, Clayton.sf wrote: > > Hi All, > > Have a pair of Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700x50 tires for sale. 40 miles > on them with a layer of dust. $65 shipped to

Re: [RBW] Re: Bizarrely on topic: AL absorption through skin

I’d be more concerned about pathogens and other nasty stuff that you might pick up in bare feet while you’re walking around. There are benefits to walking barefoot, but also dangers: “… walking without shoes has many hidden dangers: stepping on sharp metal or glass; picking up a stray virus

Re: [RBW] Re: Bizarrely on topic: AL absorption through skin

On 09/15/2015 02:14 PM, Eric Norris wrote: I’d be more concerned about pathogens and other nasty stuff that you might pick up in bare feet while you’re walking around. Not to mention nails and dog poop... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Bizarrely on topic: AL absorption through skin

Anyone know about if the skin (specifically soles of the feet) can absorb aluminum via riding barefoot? Here’s what prompts the bizarre question: I’ve lost much of my summer to many “hard” brain days, including increased brain fog and new symptoms of mini-charlie-horses in the muscles near my

[RBW] Re: Bizarrely on topic: AL absorption through skin

Good question-- this is a concern with antiperspirants since many contain aluminum. A research paper on this effect (on mice) determined that about 0.01% of applied Al from antiperspirant is absorbed by the skin. Per application, that amounted to about 4 mcg, or about 2.5% of the amount of

Re: [RBW] Re: The Silver Hubs

Anyone know if these were ever offered in 130mm rear spacing? I see at least one remark in this thread about checking with Riv "about the availability of 130 end caps." Are they available? On Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at 9:28:32 PM UTC-5, carne...@bellsouth.net wrote: > > This would be a 6

Re: [RBW]Bike shop ridiculousness, was Test ride Sam in Dallas?

i tend to agree that dropping 2k on a complete bike and relying heavily on a salesperson to understand what you want, understand what is out there and then find something similar that that shop sells, make a good decision for you etc. is maybe not the best approach. would she not be better

[RBW] C / GAP Trail Users: Bike Roll-On Service on Amtrak's Capitol Limited

Great news, thanks for posting. I've been looking forward to taking the train from DC to Harpers Ferry and riding the C Back home. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Bizarrely on topic: AL absorption through skin

* "take ye no thought"* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email

Re: [RBW]Bike shop ridiculousness, was Test ride Sam in Dallas?

Trek also has a new-style "touring bike," the 720 Disc - fittings for racks & fenders, 28mm tires, disc brakes at the $2000 price point - that would make a fairly reasonable "practical road bike". For "heavier duty" they also have the 920, which comes with 2" 29er tires and a 42/28, 11-36 10

[RBW] Re: Bizarrely on topic: AL absorption through skin

Anton, thank you. Yes, the anti-persperant was one of my questions. After a ride, my forefeet are a dark grey and the aluminum pedals are definately rubbed smoother on the barefoot side vs. the spiked side. The logic of it seems to point to it not being an issue, but the price of it being an

[RBW] FS: Marathon Supreme 700x50 and Thomson Elite Dropper

Hi All, Have a pair of Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700x50 tires for sale. 40 miles on them with a layer of dust. $65 shipped to CONUS Thomson Elite Dropper post. Brand new, never mounted. 27.2. $300 shipped to CONUS Thanks, Clayton Scott SF, CA -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for helmet/head rain covers?

Wool socks work for me in the rain. They keep my feet warm when they get wet. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com > On Sep 15, 2015, at 9:39 AM, Toshi Takeuchi wrote: > > Hey, while we're at it, you should keep a couple of plastic

[RBW] Re: B Luxos U Dynamo headlight FS

SOLD Thanks for the interest On Monday, September 14, 2015 at 6:04:53 PM UTC-5, Frank Brose wrote: > > Title tells you what it is. read about it here: > http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/b > $170 shipped. Please reply off list. > Thanks, > Frank > -- You received this message because you are

Re: [RBW]Bike shop ridiculousness, was Test ride Sam in Dallas?

I would think for that kind of cash ($2k) one might be better served by having a competent LBS/ mechanic order frame/ components "a' la carte" instead of a complete package. Just saying. I saw one of those Soma mixtes in person and they are really nice looking framesOR.Ebay/ Craigs list

Re: [RBW]Bike shop ridiculousness, was Test ride Sam in Dallas?

If your friend ever finds herself north of the Red River, there is an LBS in Norman, OK called Buchanan's that carries a very eclectic selection of bikes. I think they are completely independent with no Trek, Specialized, etc.. Instead, they have Surly, Salsa, Handsome Cycles, etc... They

Re: [RBW]Bike shop ridiculousness, was Test ride Sam in Dallas?

Perhaps it's the shop and the staff. There are several bikes in the big manufacturers' lines that could serve as "sensible, versatile road bikes". On 09/14/2015 06:42 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: Here's the next step in the story of my online friend who wants to buy a new bike to replace the $500

[RBW] Cheviot brake type?

Good morning all, I just picked up the used Cheviot that passed across the list, now I'm ordering brakes for it. Just to confirm, it uses allen/recessed type mounting, correct? Just want to make sure Riv didn't go nutted for some reason. Thanks, Eric -- You received this message because you

[RBW] FS New Carradice Barley

New Carradice Barley. Green an Tan. Still has the tags. $100 shipped. Please reply offlist. Thanks, Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: C / GAP Trail Users: Bike Roll-On Service on Amtrak's Capitol Limited

Good points, Doug. I also hope we see more of this service, especially for the Northeast Corridor (Boston - NYC - Philly - Baltimore - DC), although I'm not holding my breath for that to happen. But while we are able to roll bikes on board NJ Transit trains and go all over our small state, it

[RBW] Re: WTB: 46 Noodles

I just might. I'll have to check. I'm located in SF Bay Area. Rob On Monday, September 7, 2015 at 5:44:24 PM UTC-7, Daniel Jackson wrote: > > Anybody got 'em sitting in their basement and want to sell? > > Thanks, > D. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for helmet/head rain covers?

Hey, while we're at it, you should keep a couple of plastic newspaper sleeves in your bag for rain socks. Toshi On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 6:42 AM, MKahrl wrote: > A clear shower cap. I keep a few in my bag for use on either the saddle > and/or helmet with extras for

Re: [RBW]Bike shop ridiculousness, was Test ride Sam in Dallas?

On 09/15/2015 01:46 PM, drew wrote: i tend to agree that dropping 2k on a complete bike and relying heavily on a salesperson to understand what you want, understand what is out there and then find something similar that that shop sells, make a good decision for you etc. is maybe not the best

[RBW] Re: Bizarrely on topic: AL absorption through skin

When your feet become dark grey after riding, I wonder how much of that is aluminum oxide (dark gray/black) and how much is dirt. If you rode on plastic pedals would your feet still get the same dark gray? It would be interesting to know if metalworkers who work with aluminum develop any

[RBW] Re: FS: Marathon Supreme 700x50 and Thomson Elite Dropper

Supremes sold On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 11:10:05 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: > > I'll take the tires if you still have them and will take PayPal (I pay the > fees). > > > On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 11:04:30 AM UTC-5, Clayton.sf wrote: >> >> Hi All, >> >> Have a pair of

Re: [RBW]Bike shop ridiculousness, was Test ride Sam in Dallas?

On 09/15/2015 05:05 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote: I suspect the kid assumed that anyone who rode or wanted a mixed frame wasn't really interested in a good bike and may not know that they even exist. Isn't just about everyone in effect riding a mixte these days? I mean really: how much

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for helmet/head rain covers?

Even below 50F? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for helmet/head rain covers?

Shoes come on about 50˚F, wool socks if it's wet at about 40˚F, and Sorel boots below 10˚F. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 3:27:14 PM UTC-6, Lungimsam wrote: > > Even below 50F? > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Bizarrely on topic: AL absorption through skin

It's definitely aluminum and not dirt. It is only on the pedal contact spot. If it was dirt it would be that color other places too and it's not. I suspect sweat oxidizing the aluminum combined with the pressure to rub in off the pedal on/into the skin of my foot. Yes, the whole exposure

Re: [RBW]Bike shop ridiculousness, was Test ride Sam in Dallas?

I suspect the kid assumed that anyone who rode or wanted a mixed frame wasn't really interested in a good bike and may not know that they even exist. Michael On Monday, September 14, 2015 at 6:43:06 PM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote: > > Here's the next step in the story of my online friend who

Re: [RBW] Re: The Silver Hubs

Rich said I would receive an email when/if the 130 end caps were available. None yet. He also said he felt it would be no problem if I squeezed them into my 130 spaced Riv Road. Was easier than I expected. I have had my new wheels with these hubs for about a week with limited riding

Re: [RBW] Cheviot brake type?

On 09/15/2015 07:15 AM, Eric Daume wrote: Good morning all, I just picked up the used Cheviot that passed across the list, now I'm ordering brakes for it. Just to confirm, it uses allen/recessed type mounting, correct? Just want to make sure Riv didn't go nutted for some reason. You

Re: [RBW]Bike shop ridiculousness, was Test ride Sam in Dallas?

Agreed. If the kid working in the store in this case were trained properly to know the goods they sell, Trek for example, I would think he would bring up the Trek 520. Sometimes workers in shops have little knowledge or training. When that's the case, it's a bummer to shop there for anything

[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for helmet/head rain covers?

A clear shower cap. I keep a few in my bag for use on either the saddle and/or helmet with extras for friends.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an