[RBW] FS: Wool jerseys and one pair Kucharik Shorts

2016-12-10 Thread Joel Stern
Link below: Here are mostly Ibex tops, pretty much new, not worn, one or two may have been worn a time or so, all in picture descriptions, all Large, not slim fit, regular fit. All in perfect condition. There is one Wooly Warm Sleeveless bike Jersey from when Rivendell was doing these. There

[RBW] Wool Items for sale, tops, one short

2016-12-10 Thread Joel Stern
Link below: Here are mostly Ibex tops, pretty much new, not worn, one or two may have been worn a time or so, all in picture descriptions, all Large, not slim fit, regular fit. All in perfect condition. There is one Wooly Warm Sleeveless bike Jersey from when Rivendell was doing these. There

[RBW] LVMH Buys Pinarello. could RBW be next?

2016-12-10 Thread Fullylugged
Can you picture a Keven's bag in Louis Vitton logo cloth for example? A hardsided LV saddle trunk instead of sack? nahhh. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread David Stein
haha, it is a nice bike ;). If someone would buy my quickbeam (silver 54cm, on another thread) i'll happily add it to my collection. I think it was a combo of that and some of the BQ articles I was reading the other day. On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

Re: [RBW] Re: Selling an unused 55 cm Betty Foy with all the trimmings.

2016-12-10 Thread Joe Bernard
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Re: [RBW] 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread Bill Lindsay
Dstein revealed that this thread was started because he liked the Rosco Road so much more than his 650b bike. No fair! The Rosco Road is a magic bike transcending wheel diameter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread Jim M.
On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 12:47:45 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > really tall people could reply "Get over it, shorty," > 36er looks normal on Shaq: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: Somewhat OT: Bike Theft Justice

2016-12-10 Thread Garth
Funny , how "my bike" may be stolen, but what really seems stolen is a "personal sense" , that "I can own and be owned, that I can steal and be stolen". The truth is , I cannot lie or be lied to,I cannot steal or be stolen. A "personal sense" is it's own thief. Those that understand this

Re: [RBW] Re: Selling an unused 55 cm Betty Foy with all the trimmings.

2016-12-10 Thread Hugh Smitham
Joe, I'm just nudging her to make it clear. But of course anyone can make an offer. ~Hugh On Dec 10, 2016 12:06 PM, "Joe Bernard" wrote: > That's the new BIN price for the relisted Betty. It seems to me that > anybody could make her an offer if they want it. > > -- > You

Re: [RBW] 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread Patrick Moore
Quoth Steve: "Now where the pseudo science?" "Pseudo science" is too strong a term, but one cannot deny that Jan has stated his wheel diameter/tire width preferences as more than -- just that, his preference. I think it is this disconnect between the quality of the assertion and the evidence

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
Yes, this is definitely the "preference" part. That there is a difference in the steering as you increase the width while leaving the rim diameter constant, that's not preference. *IF* your preference is for the feel of the 23/25/28/32 mm 700C but you want to get the suspension/flotation

Re: [RBW] 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
Sorry, but I disagree. A "preference" is whether you like this something or that something. Whether you like black tea or green tea, dark roast or medium roast coffee. That there is a difference between those choices is indisputable, and whether it's quantified or not can't be described as

Re: [RBW] Somewhat OT: Bike Theft Justice

2016-12-10 Thread Patrick Moore
This recalls the incident a couple of months ago here in ABQ, Duke City, NM, Land of Enchantment, where a motorist hit a cyclist, knocked him off his bike, and dragged the bike half a mile east until another motorist, seeing what happened, pulled out his pistol, chased the perp down, and had him

[RBW] Somewhat OT: Bike Theft Justice

2016-12-10 Thread Kevin Lindsey
Although slightly off topic, I had to share this news story. If only all bike thefts ended like this one: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dsq_jZiB1_U Happy Holidays, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe

[RBW] Re: WTT: 61cm AHH for 59/61cm Roadeo

2016-12-10 Thread Brian Campbell
Well based on the response from Mark at Riv below, it seems I would not be get a much different ride so there is no need for a swap. Thanks all. Hi Brian, In sizes 59cm and up, the tube spec is pretty similar between the Roadeo and Hilsen. So, the main difference with probably come from

[RBW] Re: Selling an unused 55 cm Betty Foy with all the trimmings.

2016-12-10 Thread Joe Bernard
That's the new BIN price for the relisted Betty. It seems to me that anybody could make her an offer if they want it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send

[RBW] Re: Selling an unused 55 cm Betty Foy with all the trimmings.

2016-12-10 Thread Hugh Smitham
So you'd graciously sell it to list members for $2600 then? On Friday, December 9, 2016 at 8:43:26 AM UTC-8, Mirran Raphaely wrote: > > I posted here first, not knowing when it would show up then on Ebay, then > two days later changed it to a BUY IT NOW on Sunday--Sorry for > any confusion,

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread Patrick Moore
(This is not a disagreement.) FWIW, Grant did a wonderful job of perfecting the handling of my 2 later customs so that they are most stable than the XO-1 was, but, conversely, so that they are in no way at all sluggish to turn in -- I'd say they turn in "as fast" but more predictably; if that is

[RBW] Re: 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread Dave Johnston
It is just a matter of preference, I for instance do not like the more responsive handling of 26" wheels with road tires (<38mm) on bikes I've tried (X0-3, Atlantis, MB-3). The larger the wheel the more gyroscopic stability will be imparted to the steering. Some may like this and some may not.

Re: [RBW] Where are the Brompton Owners or A Case of the Novembers

2016-12-10 Thread Joe Bernard
Yep, that's the one. She even delivered it to me in an electric Fiat 500, which was very cool. You should take a look at this one in Oakland..6-speed, lovely color, you might get that price down a couple hundred bucks. Good luck! http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bid/528322.html -- You

Re: [RBW] Re: Holiday Saddle question

2016-12-10 Thread Daniel D.
I mentioned $99 SA sale price in the context of people willing to give the saddle a try rather than value. On Friday, December 9, 2016 at 10:00:30 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > I don't think it's feasible to expect Berthoud saddles to cost $99. The > leather they use is scarce and

[RBW] Re: Albastache on what frame?

2016-12-10 Thread BSWP
Thanks for sharing the riding impression, from a year's experiences. I rode M'bars for over a decade, and was used to the brakes "way out there" I'm thinking on the wider, flatter, and closer A'stache (A'bars?), I'm going to bring the brakes back from the front tangent point, for easier reach

Re: [RBW] 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread David Stein
I feel like a lot of Jan's writing and purpose (and I could be totally wrong here) is to disprove myths and encourage people to go wide for comfort and enjoyment, from the lens of a cyclotourist who spends several hundred km in a saddle pedaling. A lot of the testing and writing have helped push

[RBW] Re: Sticky Pletscher Twin Legged Kickstand

2016-12-10 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch
The inside of a Greenfield, which is almost identical. A flat plate with two beefy springs pushes against the perimeter of the stand as it pivots. Glob a little

Re: [RBW] 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread Garth
B I NGO B I NGO B I NGO and BINGO was his name Oh ! A "preference" is a but a a preference by any name a preference prefers. On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 9:41:37 AM UTC-5, Matt B. wrote: > > > That's why the concept is so weak. Especially when looking at

Re: [RBW] 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread Kieran J
I tend to agree. My own experiences comparing 700c to 650b run completely counter to the BQ gospel. No bashing Jan et al - but pseudo-science is a good word. KJ On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 9:41:37 AM UTC-5, Matt B. wrote: > > >> > That's why the concept is so weak. Especially when

[RBW] Re: Albastache on what frame?

2016-12-10 Thread Surlyprof
Andrew, I had thought to add interrupters when I purchased my Albastache bars about a year or so ago. Keven said that he didn't see the point. He said it was very easy to quickly slide your hands forward to the brakes when you need them. I still thought about that option when I first got

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
If, like me (a very simple minded fellow who has been a "serious" cyclist for a far shorter time than Steve, Bill and Patrick, to name just a few), found your head spinning with the dizzying array of sizes like, 559, 584, 622, 700c, and 650b, here is a link:

Re: [RBW] Where are the Brompton Owners or A Case of the Novembers

2016-12-10 Thread Surlyprof
Joe, Did you buy that Brompton on CL in Berkeley? That was a nice looking bike. Like you, I've admired them for years (my old neighbor had two I used to borrow). I finally have my wife understanding the value of the Brompton and the flexibility it gives to public transportation commuting

[RBW] Re: Bought a Riv

2016-12-10 Thread Surlyprof
Congratulations, Steve. I can understand why you pulled the trigger on that one. When I saw the frame in person, I thought it was fantastic. But, when I saw it built up with 50 tires, I wanted one! I love my Sam but that Roscoe has got to be one of the most fun bikes in their lineup. Enjoy

[RBW] Bought a Riv

2016-12-10 Thread Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles
Congratulations Steve! The Bubbe mixte is my favorite in the line-up for sure...you've chosen well. We hope to see some adventuring pics with your hombre Pondero -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

[RBW] FS: TRP RRL SR brake levers - gum / grey - Brand new in package $70 shipped!

2016-12-10 Thread Belopsky
Looking to unload some parts, this being one of them. New in package, I'll probably regret selling these when I realize my non-aero levers won't be great, but tis life..

Re: [RBW] 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread Matt B.
On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 9:02:36 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > Sure, by using an appropriate width 700C. Height of rider & size of > frame have nothing to do with this concept, it's all about the size & > width of the wheel/tire combination. > > > That's why the concept is

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread Matt B.
On Saturday, December 10, 2016 at 9:01:32 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > The "sweet spot" notion has nothing to do with rolling over rocks and > roots. > > I never said it did? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 12/10/2016 06:58 AM, Ron Mc wrote: logically, a taller person on a larger frame could find the same sweet spot on 700c Sure, by using an appropriate width 700C. Height of rider & size of frame have nothing to do with this concept, it's all about the size & width of the wheel/tire

Re: [RBW] Re: 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread Steve Palincsar
On 12/10/2016 07:05 AM, Matt B. wrote: Some folks say 700x45c tires roll over roots or rocks or frost heaves slightly better than 650b with similar width tire. I kind of agree with this based on my own experience/perceptions. The difference in radius is less than 2cm though, you'd find much

[RBW] Re: 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread Matt B.
Some folks say 700x45c tires roll over roots or rocks or frost heaves slightly better than 650b with similar width tire. I kind of agree with this based on my own experience/perceptions. The difference in radius is less than 2cm though, you'd find much more contrast with a 26" or 20" tire as

Re: [RBW] 650b vs 700c

2016-12-10 Thread Ron Mc
logically, a taller person on a larger frame could find the same sweet spot on 700c On Friday, December 9, 2016 at 12:43:29 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Jan claims that there is a sort of handling sweet spot with the diameter > of 650B X 42s, so that if you go to rims of different