Re: [RBW] Re: Soma Supple Vitesse

The Supple Vitesse EX 33 is fast and has a nice ride, as long as air pressure is kept in a fairly narrow range. Mounted on Open Pros at my 205 lbs, that was about 65 psi front, 73 psi rear. Just a few psi less and it started feeling more like a Pasela. On Open Pro rims, the SV has never

[RBW] Re: 8 speeds going away @ Rivendell?

To me, the end of 8 speed represents a turning point in bicycle and component history. The moment when trying to continuously improve products devolved into some type of arms race (Ours goes to 11!). When more became more for its own sake (or to have one more gear than the competition) rather

[RBW] Biking to ski

Nice film from Patagonia about some rookie bikepackers riding to ski gnarly lines in the eastern Sierra. https://youtu.be/WOSwosFt_rI Mike M -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] FS Tires BG Rock and Roll

BG’s are tan sidewalls with less than 100 miles and are 75.00 plus shipping. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Canvas vest recs?

Of course both those vests are insulated. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

[RBW] Canvas vest recs?

Do either of these fit the bill? http://www.schaefer-ranchwear.com/709rw-gunnison-rangewax-vest.html or http://www.schaefer-ranchwear.com/705rw-rangewax-ranger-vest.html With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

Re: [RBW] Canvas vest recs?

I wan't correcting you, Garth, I was correcting myself. On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Garth wrote: > For the sake of brevity Patrick !! Yes, I'm well aware of all the various > kinds of synthetic fabric and their likenesses and differences , but simply > used the word

[RBW] Re: Ridin’ Where the Sun Don’t Shine

Important detail to note, Doug, is it’s a feel of 30˚F, due to loss of radient sun and coming round a bend into the the shade and wind. But as abrupt as going outside to a 30˚F day from a 60˚ home. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Calling Ron Mc for handlebar comparison photo

I just replaced drop bars on my Trek 520 with Rivendell’s Albastache and a Nitto Dirt Drop Stem. It feels like a new bike. Upright but with several hand positions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this

[RBW] Re: 8 speeds going away @ Rivendell?

The tell-tale that signals the end of 8 speed from Rivendell will likely be when the 8 speed Ultegra bar ends are no longer offered. While I like my 8 speeds, I really don't need an 11 or 12 cog, and there are plenty of 7 speed cassettes in useable ranges available from many sources. Just add

[RBW] Calling Ron Mc for handlebar comparison photo

We are also overdue on some ride reports from Ron - the airwaves have been quiet for a while. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Ridin’ Where the Sun Don’t Shine

The grinnin' fool looks like a happy rider. Thanks for posting. 30 degree temp swing! Wow! dougP On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 4:06:00 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: > > In which the game of dodge-a-buck continues, we discover the amazing gift > of radiant heat by its rapid absence and

[RBW] Re: Calling Ron Mc for handlebar comparison photo

Hi Alan, I recall that photo, but can't find it. But just in case it helps, here's some research I did, a while back, on four similar bars: - Nitto B2522 Jitensha bar: aluminum, 580mm wide, no rise - Ahearne + MAP bar: aluminum, 575mm or 615mm wide, 25mm rise - VO Postino bar: aluminum,

Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres

Steve, I consider your comments to be bordering on being rude; I noted the visually differences and also explained why I don't believe them to be functionally different. Also, red treaded Hetre tyres look different than white or black, but are not they functionally different. Nor am I playing

Re: [RBW] Canvas vest recs?

Yep, you both seem to know what I'm after. The disintegrating vest has zip off arms, but they are too short for on the bike so I took them off years ago. It an old Illuminite vest; the part that is breaking up is some sort of white layer between inner mesh and outer nylon. The cut is great

Re: [RBW] FS Tires BG Rock and Roll

hi Carla black or tan sidewall? how much use have they had? LMK, I'll take em if black and good. Joe On 11/25/17, Carla Waugh wrote: > These are still available and the Soma’s are sold. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >

[RBW] FS Tires BG Rock and Roll

These are still available and the Soma’s are sold. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: [RBW] Re: "We’ll have “classic” single speed frames again...."

Stopped by RBW today and picked up a new shirt in green and blue. Very nice shirts, and I'm a fan of the multicolored buttons. Grant and crew were installing a 75-in tv screen in the showroom. They plan to scroll photos and also have it available for when guest speakers present. While there, I

[RBW] Ridin’ Where the Sun Don’t Shine

In which the game of dodge-a-buck continues, we discover the amazing gift of radiant heat by its rapid absence and return, and have a blast blowing through aspen glens. https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/where-the-sun-dont-shine With abandon, Patrick www.CredoFamily.org www.MindYourHeadCoop.org

Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres

In regards to Ben's point about tread and hydroplaning: there does seem to be radically different grip through cornering depending on the tread. The Hetres on my bike seem secure through corners, even in the wet. The Kojaks I had on another bike seemed prone to washing out. I replaced those

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Richard Sachs(!) Rivendell on CL

This is still available and now they are only asking $2000 from over $3000 to start. What a beautiful build. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

[RBW] Ye Ol Lovell Gulch Saddlesack and Coffee Hoose with Dave

In which we gave thanks as we rode, piped, coffee-ed, dodged buck in the middle of the road, and had a fantastic time meeting for the first time. Thanks, Dave! https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/cr-21-thanksgiving-classic With abandon, Patrick www.CredoFamily.org www.MindYourHeadCoop.org -- You

[RBW] FS Tires or trade

Trade tires for extra small Sackville Saddlesack any color. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] FS Tires

Soma Supple Vitesse 48 very little mileage Bruce Gordon Rock and Road both are 700c 145.00 plus postage If you want the Soma’s 75.00 plus postage Bruce Gordon 75.00 plus postage -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres

On 11/25/2017 05:34 PM, Ben Miller wrote: As I said, it's an intensely personal choice. Thanks, yes, I have looked at them. I don't consider the treads to be any different, Then you need to have your vision checked, because at this point I wonder that you are even able to see the first

[RBW] FS: Sackville Olive Back-a-bike panniers $200

Bags are sold. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] Re: The RBW Website has a new look...

Same same. If this was supposed to work better on phones..not so much. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: The RBW Website has a new look...

Same here, I also miss the larger images and I always use that feature. On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 8:58 AM, A CT Cyclist wrote: > Another loss is the size of the images. They can no longer be enlarged > just zoomed in on. Personally I miss the larger images. > > > On Monday,

Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres

As I said, it's an intensely personal choice. Thanks, yes, I have looked at them. I don't consider the treads to be any different, because I consider all slick treads to be the same. Bikes can not hydroplane under anything close to normal circumstances, so what possible difference could there

Re: [RBW] Re: Hetres

On 11/25/2017 02:57 PM, Ben Miller wrote: I guess if you want to jump through all those hoops to get tyres that say "Grand Bois" on them, by all means (literally). But Compass' Babyshoe and SOMA's Grand Randonneur EX tyres are both made by Panaracer (in Japan), with nearly the same

[RBW] Re: FS 51 Joe Appaloosa silver

Ok guys. I have an opportunity to buy a friends bike at a great discount. It better suits my needs. This results in me being pretty open to offers (within reason). Shoot em’ my way. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] WTT or WTB or FS: my Nitto Dynamic 90 mm stem for your same or similar 120 mm stem

I have a never used, like new but with a few minor shopwear marks 90 mm Nitto Dynamic quill stem for 26.0 bars. I am looking for the same or a similar stem in 120 mm. would consider sale if you need the stem and don't have one for me. Replay off list. Thanks, Julian Westerhout

[RBW] Re: Hetres

I guess if you want to jump through all those hoops to get tyres that say "Grand Bois" on them, by all means (literally). But Compass' Babyshoe and SOMA's Grand Randonneur EX tyres are both made by Panaracer (in Japan), with nearly the same specifications as the Hetres. In fact, the Hetre EL,

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar for bikepacking

Hi Mike, is that really a 29 x 2.25 vittoria mezcal in your bmc cross frame? And does one fit I'm the rear as well? Thanks On Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 8:18:40 AM UTC-8, Mike Williams wrote: > Maybe go: 1)framebag/ half- framebag/ 2) compact rear saddlebag 3) front > rack+basket + bag

Re: [RBW] Re: The RBW Website has a new look...

A Woolgathering of Baconchewers? >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar for bikepacking

Andy from Pitt said, in agreement with DP: Some things need to be heavy duty from the get go, just as you say. Saving > a few ounces can have an exceptional cost. > I wholeheartedly agree that a few ounces of savings isn't really worth the possibility of failure, and I simultaneously have

Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar for bikepacking

*Hi Jon, I will look into the Rawland demiporteur rack and surly petite porterhouse bag. I checked out the photos of fully loaded bike and it really helps. Are those your bikes? Thanks a lot.* Yes, both photos are my Salsa Marrakesh bike. I got the Rawland rack earlier this year, and

Re: [RBW] Canvas vest recs?

This raises a tangential question: what clothing and tactics do y'all favor to deal with large changes in temperatures during a ride? In the high desert, 30* between early morning low and late afternoon high is routinely 30* and often 40*, with winds often changing from still to brisk and back.

[RBW] Re: Hetres

Or try Alex Cycles in Japan. Best, Richard On Friday, November 24, 2017 at 7:06:28 PM UTC-5, KC wrote: > > Thank you for the feedback. Compass shows discontinued and recommends > Baby Shoe Pass as replacements. Since I've been happy with the Hetres I > put on my first week of ownership I

Re: [RBW] Canvas vest recs?

That may be inaccurate. They have been synthetics of one sort or another; the lightest ones of lightweight nylon, the heavier ones of stretchy and supposedly breathable synthetics. ...My other cycling vests have been of different weights and designs of > nylon. > -- You received this message

[RBW] Re: 8 speeds going away @ Rivendell?

Chris, agree with your assessment. A small company like Rivendell can't afford to house a big inventory of parts. Love my 8 speed gearing though. It's on all my Rivs and works perfectly for the terrain I ride. Regards, Richard On Saturday, November 25, 2017 at 2:00:08 AM UTC-5, Christopher

Re: [RBW] Canvas vest recs?

I favor vests for moderate cold, and have owned and used over a dozen over the years for cycling and for street wear, including several wool ones (currently Filson and another lighter one), insulated (Cahart), and many cycling specific vests including a nice Ibex made from a wool/stretchy

Re: [RBW] Re: Happy Thanksgiving from Wisconsin!

'nother beautifully turned out Hunq in a pretty setting! Regards, Richard On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 6:27 AM, 'Jennings' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Yes, nothing like a Hunqapillar in the wild. This was me on a 20 mile ride > thanksgiving day. Didn't see any

[RBW] Re: Canvas vest recs?

That's what I thought, and I have never found one either or I'd own one. They all seem to be the same low cut colllar design that seems more fashion than function or my idea of purpose is far from theirs. Myself I wear 2 different nylon vests for riding and walking. Both have a partial mesh

[RBW] FS: Sackville Olive Back-a-bike panniers $200

Selling my never-used Sackville olive panniers. Changing my touring setup, and in need of different bags. $200 shipped CONUS. I would also consider a trade for a Large, mostly unused Sackville Saddlesack. PM for photos. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

[RBW] Re: Canvas vest recs?

> wiggy's wind shirt. On Friday, November 24, 2017 at 1:44:00 PM UTC-6, EasyRider wrote: > > I'm in the market for a new vest for commuting (and 1-2 hour rides). My > last vest was a synthetic kinda breathable number with a liner that has > started to disintegrate, leaving bits of plastic

[RBW] Calling Ron Mc for handlebar comparison photo

Hi All, Looking to replace drop bars with something upright, such as jitensha, MAP, postino, vo porter, etc. Awhile back there was a composite photo of several such bars posted, I think, by Ron Mc. Can anyone find it and re-post? Thanks, Alan NYC -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Re: 8 speeds going away @ Rivendell?

8-speed is not old now, it's been old for some time. But Rivendell has supported this number of cogs, and I believe still very much does; my first gen Clementine came with 8 speeds. I think it is more a matter of a somewhat puzzling choice regarding the new website design. Whereas out of stock

[RBW] Re: WTB (iBob cross post) 30 x 46 square taper (170 approx) crank, silver

Hey Dan, the rims are the old Velocity Twin Hollow that Riv used to see as their "budget" wheel set. There's lots of width with the Bleriot though (front & back), in fact, the crimped chain stay work is really nice for tires of this size on this frame. The WTB's with tubes are coming in around

[RBW] Re: 8 speeds going away @ Rivendell?

Ultimately if you need 8 speed buy it elsewhere -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] Re: Hetres

Try the Blue Lug store instead, it's much easier to use as it's in English at least. I Put in 4 Hetres to ship to Ohio and the total was 221.77 including the 65something cost for shipping. Shipping from Japan is quite expensive , so I would buy as many tires in one shot as you feel comfortable

[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar for bikepacking

A hearty agree for this passage: " Ultralight gear is wimpy. It will fail, and in circumstances less than ideal that pushed it beyond it’s frail capacity. It must be babied to last. I carry expedition weight gear for what gear I carry. It allows me to be confident and comfortable no matter