Re: [RBW] Re: stopping and rim brakes

Sidepulls are easiest for me too. Thanks for the comparison to the Compass brakes. I love my Tektro R559 brakes. R539 are awesome, too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

I see thought behind Crust designs. A (relatively) low q-factor fat bike? An aftermarket cargo fork for 1" threaded steerers? These are unique, interesting products. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [RBW] Model(s) going away

I remember when the Saluki was in the works, they said it would be for “650B and centerpulls” which seemed so badass at the time. The Silver brake (AKA Tektro R559) still didn’t exist yet, so it was presumed that the centerbolt sidepull models would be set up with centerpulls. A year or two

Re: [RBW] Model(s) going away

Nope. That was around the time Riv first started promoting centerpulls, but they always sold the Paul Racer with the center bolt. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [RBW] Model(s) going away

Funny enough, the Salukis did come in either sidepull version or cantilever version, the main distinguishing feature of MIT Hilsens versus Hillbornes. I found an online image of a Saluki with sidepull Silver brakes, but I have a question out of curiosity: were any Salukis made with dedicated

[RBW] Model(s) going away

I know. BUT, it could be as simple a decal and headbadge swap -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Model(s) going away

That would make both Country Bikes in the new catalogue obsolete. This seems an unlikely move. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Notes on a new Sam Hillborne, Albastache handlebars, and on being "fast enough"

Your story is very similar to my story. When I first started riding as an adult I was influenced by racing. I emulated what I saw on TV and pretty soon began the slippery slope of racing, group rides and always trying to beat the guy in the pack or be the person who doesn't get dropped. After

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

+ 1. But it will have to be a Roadeo-followup. One of the most remarkable records Beryl held was for the women’s 12 hour time trial. This she achieved in 1967 when she recorded 277.25 miles.This record still stands today despite massive improvements in equipment, nutrition and training methods.

[RBW] Model(s) going away

I say get rid of the AHH and Sam and bring back the Saluki. All functionally equivalent, but the newluki could embody both more concisely and get the best riv headbadge back in circulation. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.

[RBW] Re: Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

Tom, I ride very rocky, rutted, rooty, and washed out trails here in MD with a good bit of elevation change—generally 100 feet of gain per mile on average, and often more. My steed is a non-suspension-corrected Surly Troll with 26x3.0 tires. I love the ride and handling to and from the trails,

[RBW] Re: Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

Hey Tom! Exactly! I agree wholeheartedly and highly suspect we could ride the same ride and have a great time together. There is a fairly large swath of middle ground where some may like the squish and others not. Which was my point, responding to “if your riding requires suspension.” Grin.

[RBW] Re: Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

Patrick! Gosh, poor guy. I fully expect to see you in your armor in your next travelogue! Your comment is a great one, since it speaks to what I think is another possible misunderstanding of why anyone would choose to ride a squish forked bike. It's not always about being a daredevil.

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

Likely not a realistic choice (a living person and all), but l would like Rachel Robinson's name on something of quality and elegance... EricF Vancouver -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

Jackie O. Lope then. Or Beryl Burton. On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 9:34:09 PM UTC-7, Justin, Oakland wrote: > > If Grant reads this: please pick a woman’s name for the MTB. Perhaps even > a non-WASPy woman’s name. It’s be a welcome change and I’d love to shred on > a Ellie Fant, Hilda Clime,

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

Man, I hope this doesn't come off as snotty because I definitely don't mean it that way but, I'm not following your logic at all. Why would a wider-than-currently-available rim brake rim be considered "proprietary?!" You realize don't you, that the ONLY reason 650b mountain bike wheels and

[RBW] Re: Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

“If you're riding requires some sort of suspension” Suspension in various forms is a part of all riding. Be it pnumatic tires, arms and elbows, flex of frame/fork, bouncy bike shocks ... whatever. However, I’d posit no riding requires what is refered to as “full suspension shocks” except

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

I guess it's along this same line of thinking that you could consider my Clem Smith, Jr. with newly installed Jones loop bars a bit of a compromise vs. owning one of each, haha. I know there are several others with Jones bars on a Riv and now that I've finally got my hands on one it's a

[RBW] Re: Betty Foy w/40 miles for sale

Ditto -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Bought a Rambouillet from CL...

Hi Stasi, Congrats on the new bike! Although not a Ram fork If you know the necessary fork length/specs and the steerer length happens to be in the range of 238mm with 40mm of threads included, I have a Rivendell surplus SimpleOne fork available (238mm steerer, 384mm axle to crown, 47.5mm

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 2:43:48 PM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote: > > > > If so, the solution for everyone who keeps insisting that they want a > "Rivendell" mountain bike - but only if it has disc brakes, suspension > corrected geometry, dropper post cable routing, etc. - already exists. >

[RBW] Re: Nitto rear rack shortage?

they seem to make them in batches, and I think Rivendell is one of their baseline customers. On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:13:12 PM UTC-5, ian m wrote: > > Seems like everywhere is out of stock except on the 26" MT Campee. Anyone > have any insight on why, if they hit a production bottleneck

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

Masmojo: Or you could snap up one of those demos on the Specials page. If they had a 48 or 52 I would probably own it now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

I've been wanting a Hunq. For some time & I would probably be close to pulling the trigger before 2019, but I am intrigued by this latest development. I too would dig the idea of threadless 1 1/8" steerers,Disk brakes & even thru axels on my Riv; not so much because I prefer them, but because

[RBW] Model(s) going away

Update from Dave: No Sams planned for '18/'19 beyond the upcoming small Sparkly Orange 51cm run. Could be back later, but hoo boy I better think about getting that 51 before I become a much older person. Orange! With sparkles! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

I'd be more surprised to see Grant/Rivendell design any suspension corrected frame than I would be to see a disc equipped fully rigid Rivendell. Not that either are likely to happen but I think what would be given up is essentially everything a Rivendell bicycle represents in terms of

Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction - Doug Shaker

Oh, man, I remember.  I used to make leather washers for fender mounting (I still think it is a good idea) and then give them away in return for a postcard from a ride. That was fun.  For a while my refrigerator had a pretty healthy compliment of postcards on it.  Fun! -Doug On 6/12/2018

[RBW] Re: Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

d2mini, I agree with your 'no replacing' statement, though in my riding areas, full sus would be fun but not requireda hard tail is fine. In general, I think there is a large misunderstanding of the types of singletrack to be found in different parts of the U.S. (and world). In NC, the

[RBW] Re: Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

I wouldn't consider any cruiser/paperboy fork ever made to be comparable to (for example) a Hunqapillar or Bombadil fork (which I would consider "mtb" forks). On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 11:51:36 AM UTC-7, tc wrote: > > Eamon, hmm, I understood this new bike to be a 'dedicated' mountain bike,

[RBW] Re: Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

Eamon, hmm, I understood this new bike to be a 'dedicated' mountain bike, which in my experience means no need for racks and fenders. Maybe I got that wrong? Also, there are plenty of old steel "paperboy" and cruiser bikes with nicely curved, very strong blades. Tom On Friday, June 15, 2018

Re: [RBW] Re: Bought a Rambouillet from CL...

Congratulations on the new bike! Enjoy her! Karl Nashville, TN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

On Thursday, June 14, 2018 at 9:04:23 PM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote: > > Single HHH sounds pretty fantastic... I thought the HHH was supposed to be > a 'double Clem' myself so maybe the new Riv Mtn is a lugged MIT Clem but a > bit heavier duty...?!? I'm slow and didn't understand Grant's

[RBW] Re: Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

I agree. The only thing I really don't like about my Karate Monkey is the fact that it's suspension corrected. The new Ogre fixes that but when I decide to get a new frame, it's going to be something much nicer than a Surly. On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 10:25:11 AM UTC-5, Eamon Nordquist

[RBW] Re: Nitto rear rack shortage?

You might try Ben's Cycle. They carry many Nitto racks, and also state on the page for each how many are in stock. https://www.benscycle.com/racks-and-holders/rear-mount-rack-nitto/23743-25444/search On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 1:13:12 PM UTC-4, ian m wrote: > > Seems like everywhere is out of

[RBW] Notes on a new Sam Hillborne, Albastache handlebars, and on being "fast enough"

Nice build. How does the toe clip overlap compare on the two bikes? And more importantly — how do you decide which one to ride? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from

[RBW] Re: Cracking paint or (gulp) cracking frame?

I once suspected that I had a cracked frame at the base of the seat tube in the area just above the lug in your first photo. I called the builder of the frame and they sent me to a shop that was local to me for inspection. The shop mechanic pulled the seat post out of the frame, grabbed a

[RBW] Re: Bought a Rambouillet from CL...

That ebay fork appears to still be available. If your frame is blue and the steerer tube is the correct length, this is a no-brainer. If not, I'd have Riv build me a new one with the correct crown if it were me. Lisiting: https://www.ebay.com/itm/323210418368?ViewItem==323210418368 On

[RBW] Model(s) going away

I have an email in to Dave @ Riv about the Sam situation, but haven't heard back yet. I think they're all headed to Rivelo for the weekend. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

I have a long rigid Kona fork on my Bontrager , replacing a suspension fork. I had the same setup with a Gary Fisher Utopia hybrid . I see them as misproportioned, and I

[RBW] Re: Tubeless question from an old fart

I used to run tubeless. It allows you to ride lower pressure, which is nice. However, the hassle outweighed the benefit for me. So I went back to tubes. On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 7:56:14 AM UTC-4, Larry Charlton wrote: > > So last year while having my Proto-Appaloosa built up the 20-something

Re: [RBW] Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

Suspension corrected means the fork compensated for the extra length of a sagged suspension fork. For instance, the 29er Clem fork is maybe 400-410mm long. An 80mm suspension corrected 29er rigid fork is 465mm long. So you would have an extra 2” above the tire due to the suspension correction.

[RBW] Model(s) going away

Blame it on intertextuality, but I recall Grant saying elsewhere that the Clem-L would probably replace the Clem-H going forward, and so gave the text a narrow reading: last of the Clem-Hs, but not last of tbe Clem-*s... unless they bring back the Clementine model name. Based mostly on remarks

[RBW] Re: Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

It would need a very different type of headset that would look goofy with a steel fork that 95% of Rivendell riders would use. Unless you want to do the hunting for straight steerer suspension forks, that's not a search I want to do. And there would be way too much space in the fork to mount

[RBW] Nitto rear rack shortage?

Seems like everywhere is out of stock except on the 26" MT Campee. Anyone have any insight on why, if they hit a production bottleneck or distribution problems or something? Anyone have one they are looking to unload? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

That Schwinn wouldn't slow this fellow down: https://www.bikemag.com/news/news-fat-and-furious/ On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:04 AM, tc wrote: > Take the fenders off a Schwinn Heavy Duty > and add some > big 'ol knobbies :) For a tad

[RBW] Re: Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

A question and a comment: Question: What is a suspension corrected fork? (In Italy caffe correto is "coffee corrected" meaning adding liquor...) Comment: Now that I'm working in AZ, I took the Hunq to Sedona and hit the MTB trails. The bike never limited me, my skills did. I'm a novice on

Re: [RBW] Re: Bought a Rambouillet from CL...

Will do. I'm hoping to get a chance to go visit in person next week. (Fingers crossed!) Thanks! On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: > Depends a great deal on what fork they used for replacement. > > Rivendell used to list the "Carbonomas" fork on the site, but for some >

[RBW] Re: Bought a Rambouillet from CL...

Depends a great deal on what fork they used for replacement. Rivendell used to list the "Carbonomas" fork on the site, but for some reason, that does not seem to be coming up. Thought I saw it fairly recently. Ahhh well... You might give them a call to see the status on that. -- You

[RBW] Re: Totally OT, but no TV

Would love to know more, too. Also, how do they compare when going abroad? - Max “sick of TV, but accommodating others in the household” in A2 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[RBW] Tubeless question from an old fart

I'm new to tubeless, too, and still carry a tube and patch kit out of 'old fart' habit (plus tire plugs), which I guess kinda defeats the whole purpose. The advantage I discovered last week was getting a rear flat OH MAN THIS SUCKS, then after watching sealant spew for a few seconds, it stopped

[RBW] Re: Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

I would definitely appreciate front suspension during the (extremely rare) occasions that I'm riding seriously off-road. But I'm guessing a 500 or 600mm fork completely changes the ride characteristics of the bike. I'm no geometry expert, but have definitely found suspension corrected Surlys to

[RBW] Re: Model(s) going away

I'm dating myself, but in a different economic, political, and cultural moment, I loved, loved loved: Atlantis - Hilsen/Saluki - Ram/Rom - Quickbeam - Glorious/Wilbury line-up of differentiation. I like that the Hilsen nameplate is sustaining, as the original "country bike." That being said,

[RBW] Bought a Rambouillet from CL...

Hi all, We bought a well-loved Rambouillet from CL with a replaced fork - is it worth it to track down an original part? (I saw one recently on eBay.) The bike rides fine but as a non-expert, I don't know how crucial it is to have an original part as opposed to a replacement. Any

[RBW] Re: Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

For my mountain biking, there is no replacing my full suspension mtn bike. Period. That's ok though. I have my Riv for my casual riding on roads and light trails and my specialized rockhopper for taking the real abuse. In other words, don't force something to be something it's not. Let Riv be

[RBW] Re: Betty Foy w/40 miles for sale

I'm very interested. Also very interested in size and price. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

Well, for starters the headtube has to be shorter, and the fork crown ends up a million miles from the rack mounting braze ons, limiting your front rack mounting options (also making fender mounting difficult). The fork blades have to be much longer (and probably stouter), making chances for an

[RBW] Re: Totally OT, but no TV

I cut the cable about a month ago. My setup is a Roku stick plugged into my tv and high speed internet over a DSL connection. I am mostly Apple-centric, but decided to go with Roku after some internet research. I'm still learning to use the system, but I've been happy so far. I already had

Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

Take the fenders off a Schwinn Heavy Duty and add some big 'ol knobbies :) For a tad more, the Surly Lowside might work. Tom On Thursday, June 14, 2018 at 7:36:32 PM UTC-4, Christopher Murray

[RBW] Why not a suspension-corrected fork/frame?

With the exciting news about a new Riv MTB in the works, I wonder what would be given up by offering it with a suspension-corrected rigid fork to allow those of us who prefer some squish in front to have that option? I realize it's too late for that, but I can always hope for a "2.0" model :)

[RBW] Grabsack anyone?

I've got a handful of GrabSacks in stock that have been here a bit too long. Brown and Tan only. Priced for your consideration. Thanks! Chris @ A1 Cyclery https://a1cyclery.com/product/sackville-grabsack/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] Re: Cracking paint or (gulp) cracking frame?

You could try Magnafluxing. Most auto machine shops can do it. They apply a magnetic particle dye and then put a magnetic field around the part. The magnetic dye will migrate to the crack if there is one (a blacklight may be involved). Standard test for finding cracks in engine parts during a

[RBW] Re: 650B Roadini build

The Tektro R-539 does fit on the front of the 650b Roadini. I swapped out the ugly black cable adjuster for the nice silver one from the R-559. I also installed

[RBW] Re: Cracking paint or (gulp) cracking frame?

If I were looking for a crack in a sanded down stay, I would put liberally apply some removable ink on the effected area, hop on the bike and flex it a little, get off and wipe away the ink carefully with a FLAT hand, or a tight ball of rag (if your towel is loose it will get in any cracks and

Re: [RBW] Model(s) going away

Sorry Joe, my bad. Should have been.a question to the people at RBW. JohnS On Friday, June 15, 2018 at 12:45:41 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: > > John, are you asking me/Joe? I don't understand the question. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] lum gom fong please PM

i cant pm from my ipad i will take the 7 stem if we can communicate thanks and thanks again -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Tubeless question from an old fart

I'm a hold-out, run latex (challenge cross) tubes and carry a 2oz bottle of Stans and valve core tool (and spare valve core) for Alt Flat Kit. Stans repair has always lasted me as long as remaining tread. I start with 1 ounce at roadside, and 6 weeks later have to add the 2nd ounce. I

[RBW] Tubeless question from an old fart

So last year while having my Proto-Appaloosa built up the 20-something LBS mechanic insisted that I MUST run tubeless on my 700x38 tires. I shrugged and let him go. Two weeks ago I scrubbed a high curb cut and unseated the bead. Flat tire. Walked the 3 blocks home and tried pumping it up

[RBW] Re: Notes on a new Sam Hillborne, Albastache handlebars, and on being "fast enough"

Similar story with my 62cm Sam. Noodles on a 90mm stem left me feeling stretched out no matter the bar height. Then I picked up an 80mm stem and an Albastache bar and it was glorious! I have it set up as my offroad trail bike with 42mm knobbies. -Austin Sykesville, MD -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Cracking paint or (gulp) cracking frame?

you can check for local Non-Destructive Inspection companies in your area - they support industry repairs and turnarounds in power plants, etc. They typically work out of a shop. They might cut you a deal on a quick PT inspection of the sanded area to determine if a crack indication exists.

[RBW] Re: Notes on a new Sam Hillborne, Albastache handlebars, and on being "fast enough"

your bike is a beauty, and just how I would set one up. Currently, my closest bike is my '74 International. This may change before too long, since my thousand-dollar monthly child support commitment just ended for good. I ride religiously with a 7a Sunday

[RBW] Re: Notes on a new Sam Hillborne, Albastache handlebars, and on being "fast enough"

Great write up. > *I first built it with 44cm Noodles that I had on hand, but even with the > Riv-recommended 8cm stem (that I worried would be too short), I felt way > too stretched out and uncomfortable.* > I felt the same way about my 55cm Bleriot with a similar set up. My legs are