[RBW] Ok to take out a 650b edeluxe hub and into 700c A23 wheel?

I prefer to keep the same lacing pattern as a previous build to keep the hub as strong as possible. You dont see hubs break too often so might not matter but its optimal. I'd sell and build another! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners

[RBW] Ok to take out a 650b edeluxe hub and into 700c A23 wheel?

I am under the assumption it doesn’t matter if edeluxe widebody is used for 650 or 700. Not size specific. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Ok to take out a 650b edeluxe hub and into 700c A23 wheel?

Or better just to sell the whole 650b wheel intact and get a new dyno hub put into my A23? Tough choices.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: front rack bag for a 54ram. what do people here like.

My wobbliness may be contributed to by my super slick rolling IRD RollerDrive needlebearing headset. That thing is so smooth. I keep checking if it needs snugging or something but nothing moves fore/aft on the stack/cups/races upon braking and rocking. Everything snug. -- You received this

[RBW] Re: Rear 130 wheel ok in 135 DO? 4mm each side need to be taken up.

Yeah, it’s a wonky setup. Dropouts measure about 140 inside face to inside face, relaxed with no wheel mounted. Came stock with about 132.5 wheel. My A23/135 LX fits great, but need to use that set for another project. 100 CR18 seems too narrow. -- You received this message because you are

[RBW] Best brake fork crown clearance calipers?

Current production and under $100 US dollars. Cannot dangle below fork crown, stealing needed cm. Gotta be sidepulls or centerpulls mounted to fork crown. 700c wheel reach. Silver color. Thanks for the info. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

[RBW] New "Hill" Bike is Posted

Looks like a Clem H with hints of the very pretty curve in the L, and uses that bike's most excellent seat lug. I like it! Joe "Hill Bike is a great category name" Bernard Novato CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

[RBW] Re: Rear 130 wheel ok in 135 DO? 4mm each side need to be taken up.

That sounds like a wider spacing than normal... I went through this a couple weeks ago, and even called Rivendell to ask about running a 130 wheel in a 135 dropout. I said I wanted to use the wheel for a few years, and they said it would be fine. But again, my spacing really was only 5mm

[RBW] New "Hill" Bike is Posted

Looks great. Kind of a Space Frame Meets Clem H. Excited to see something like this made. Where’s the samples of the Rosco Bebe tho? -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Rear 130 wheel ok in 135 DO? 4mm each side need to be taken up.

I measured with wheel loosely dropped in and pushed all the way to one dropout side: 8mm gap on other side. So there is going to be 4mm each side of hub that will need to be taken up when QR tightened. HiTen Raleigh dropouts. Had a 135 in it. 130 going in. 4mm each side too much? Or ok to use?

[RBW] New "Hill" Bike is Posted

Looks different, as all rivendell bikes do. It'll be interesting to see how it rides and what the bike industry will think of it at the trade show. https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/peeking-through-the-knothole/all-about-ebikes Happy Saturday riding everyone, Collin -- You received this message

Re: [RBW] Jobst on 650b?

I would suspect that with the huge frame sizes he rode, Jobst wouldn’t have likely ever chosen 650b for himself, regardless of tire size. I guess we can’t ask him anymore to know for sure . Eamon Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW

Re: [RBW] Jobst on 650b?

Here's a story on the development of Tom Ritchey's early mountain bikes , which includes his early flirtations with 650b. The article references Ritchey's conversations with Brandt

Re: [RBW] Jobst on 650b?

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 9:17 AM Brewster Fong wrote: > > > On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 10:14:11 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: >> >> There is no "like him". Jobst was a cantankerous fellow who rode hard and >> didn't think much of things like road conditions or exhaustion. > > > Agree, you

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Owners: White Industries ENO or VBC Crankset?

I believe that to be more or less the case as well, but if I had my druthers I'd like to go the low Q route. Interesting observation about the chainstays limiting the ring size on your SO, so thank you! I'm after a ~42mm chainline, clearance for 44-46T chainrings, and low Q, but I could

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Owners: White Industries ENO or VBC Crankset?

Thanks! Agreed on the looks of the VBC chainrings, and having seen pics on the information superhighway, I'm actually considering using one as a single instead of the ENO ring. Also agreed on forged cranks, using a Dura Ace 74XX with a TA Alize ring is my fallback plan. Jeff Hagedorn Los

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Owners: White Industries ENO or VBC Crankset?

I thought that the VBC and the ENO were the same crankset, just different Q Factor? MTB for ENO and VBC for road. My SimpleOne experience was that the chainstays weren't limiting Q Factor, but were limiting chainring size. I needed to go up a size in BB spindle when I was running a 44

[RBW] FS: Bikes, Frames, Bags

In an effort to streamline before moving, I am looking to lighten the load. Details below. Thanks for looking! *Sam Hillborne MUSA 55cm*- Complete Bike $1300 to lower 48 - 55cm Seat Tube 57cm Double Top Tube - Rich Built Velocity/LX 700 Wheel set - Sugino Triple Cranks - Shimano Rear Derailleur

[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Owners: White Industries ENO or VBC Crankset?

Congratulations! I think the VBC chainrings are prettier. I had a couple sets of ENO cranks, but I don't think they ever made it onto the Quickbeam, because I'm pretty dedicated to the dingle expression of that bike. I did like them on the Singular, but sold all that kit when I sold the bike. I

[RBW] Re: FS: Swift Fabio’s Chest

Sold. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: MTB on the Blahg (again)

It's definitely *Niles G. Blowouts* On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 5:23:40 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > There's a word puzzle for the new name. I gave it 10 minutes then realized > I never would have guessed Sam Hillborne or Joe Appaloosa, so I'm never > going to figure this one out.

[RBW] Quickbeam Owners: White Industries ENO or VBC Crankset?

At long last I have a 60cm Quickbeam on the way to me, and I'm thinking about using White Industries cranks for no other reason than that I've always wanted to, ha. I'm leaning towards the VBC crankarms since I'd like to take advantage of the lower Q, but I'm not sure if the Quickbeam needs

[RBW] WTB 66 or 68 Atlantis

Anybody have this rare beast? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

[RBW] Re: front rack bag for a 54ram. what do people here like.

Bo, How much do you need to carry? The Acorn Bags "Tall Rando Bag" is very well-made and can hold a ton. I ended up not needing anywhere near that much space (but it looked great :) I used it with a Berthoud decaleur. On my Sam I had to splay out the brake cables somewhat to allow the bag

Re: [RBW] FS: Shimano CX50 Cantilever Brakes, Nitto Front Rack Model Martin-pêcheur (cantilever rack), Nitto Long cable hanger

All sold -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [RBW] front rack bag for a 54ram. what do people here like.

I rode with Mark's rack mounted with P-clamps and a Sackville small trunksack or Acorn rando bag if you want more space. I think the handling was a bit slower with a rack/bag combo, but for me it never felt wobbly. Toshi On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:41 PM bo richardson wrote: > and decaleur? >

Re: [RBW] Jobst on 650b?

I recall an interview by Grant Petersen where Brandt agued against the value of the longer flap on the Carradice longflap bags. Now *that’s* an opinion. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

Re: [RBW] Jobst on 650b?

Oh my! These pictures are worth making posters! It appears like he is riding uphill on a muddy rugged narrow track with 53t chainring. Animal! (I say that with respect) Guess almost none of the details we sweat about really mattered to him. He was more into riding than bikes. I

[RBW] Re: FS: Swift Fabio’s Chest

Ryan I sent pics your way. In terms of construction, the bag is top notch. Incredibly well made. The design is interesting and it has some very cool/unique touches. What it came down to for me is that this bag is way too big to use on a regular ride for me. I don’t have any big trips in my

Re: [RBW] Jobst on 650b?

Jobst was a keen engineer who could cut through the marketing BS that dominates technical discussion in the bike industry, but I would hardly call him a role model for how to cycle with comfort and ease if you're not a superhuman. He toured the Alps, not to mention his weekly rides in the

Re: [RBW] Jobst on 650b?

My favorite is his gearing. I believe he had something like a 52/47 chainrings upfront and like 13-24 in the rear. In his "later years" he put on a 13-26. So on all those wonderful alpine climbs he did, Jobst basically grinded up standing in his 47x26 gearing. But I understand that was his

Re: [RBW] Jobst on 650b?

John: see: https://www.trentobike.org/byauthor/JobstBrandt.html https://yarchive.net/bike/index.html Etc. Somewhere online Jobst described his history of alpine touring, starting shortly after WW II (wooden rims, tubulars). For ~50 years he toured the alps, paved and dirt, dry and wet, on a

Re: [RBW] Jobst on 650b?

On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 10:14:11 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > There is no "like him". Jobst was a cantankerous fellow who rode hard and > didn't think much of things like road conditions or exhaustion. Agree, you need to do a search for his annual Europe trips. He had a

[RBW] Re: For sale Roscoe Mtn Mixte

Me too please! On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 1:50:06 PM UTC-4, Ray Varella wrote: > > Yes Jonathon but the files are too large to post here. > I’ll email them to you > > Thank you > Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

[RBW] Re: Rene Herse crank wobble/deflection issue(?)

Just as an FYI response to the Sugino OX suggestions that have been floated, here... I have used that very crank, before (it's what I had on my old Sam), and can speak for its quality. As far as I know, however, there are (frustratingly) only a handful of chainring combinations with which you

Re: [RBW] WTT: My Nitto Dirt Drop RM014 (52cm - 31.8 clamp) for your Nitto RM013 (52cm, 26.0/25.4) or other alternative?

Thanks Jeff. A trade for my bars is currently pending but I also just sent you a direct reply to see if we may arrange something separately. I do have a sizeable parts stash right now and maybe we could work something out. If not, I'll check with you in the event my funding situation changes

[RBW] Re: front rack bag for a 54ram. what do people here like.

I will say54 Ram has wobbly handling up front with front loads. But nothing that can’t easily be tamed. I rode thus way for a couple years and was great. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

[RBW] For sale Roscoe Mtn Mixte

Price drop to $650 plus shipping Thank you Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

[RBW] Re: FS: Swift Fabio’s Chest

Ryan, To get an idea of how the bag works, watch the video posted on the Crust Website: https://crustbikes.com/products/fabios-chest-2/ Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

[RBW] Re: Rene Herse crank wobble/deflection issue(?)

I had to go wider on the BB spindle than what you might need on a non-Riv. I had nothing but chain rub on the front derailleur body either. A wider BB allowed me to raise the FD up the seat tube where the chain could run in the widest part of the FD body while still preventing the outer FD

[RBW] Re: FS: Swift Fabio’s Chest

Hey Drew, Can you send me some pics of this? How do you like the design/useability and build quality of this bag? I'm very curious about these, but not sure if it will work with my current bike stable. It might though. On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 9:18:53 PM UTC-5, Drw wrote: >

Re: [RBW] WTT: My Nitto Dirt Drop RM014 (52cm - 31.8 clamp) for your Nitto RM013 (52cm, 26.0/25.4) or other alternative?

I have a RM013 52cm w/26mm clamp that I purchased from Ben's Cycle in July when I was on a handlebar mission. Around the same time I procured a Cowchipper, a Ritchey Venturemax, and an Origin8 Gary OS Sweep bar. I tested all of them as a replacement for a Nitto Noodle, where I was looking for more

[RBW] Re: FS: 55cm Sam Hillborne Waterford Made

I did forget one thing. I bought used, and the kickstand plate weld was loose on one side. Only matters if you use a kickstand without a top plate... If it bothers you too much, I'll take $100 off. Karl Nashville, TN On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 6:49:45 PM UTC-5, Karl wrote: > > I have a

Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone tried 10 speed indexing with the Altus/Acera big pulley derailleur?

It should have no problem. I use Shimano 10-speed bar-ends with a 9-speed XT rear derailleur, and it indexes perfectly. The Altus/Acera derailleur has the exact same shift ratio (SIS). On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 1:27 AM, lconley wrote: > I have successfully used the Altus for 9 speed indexing

Re: [RBW] Re: front rack bag for a 54ram. what do people here like.

I have a Randonneur bag from listmember David B, aka Treetop bags. https://treetop.bigcartel.com/category/front-bags He can do semi-custom. I use a VO decaleur and Nitto Mark's Rack. On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 8:06 AM, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > Compass/Nitto for pearl/tech deluxe stems decaleur. >

[RBW] Re: FS: 55cm Sam Hillborne Waterford Made

Great deal! On Thursday, September 13, 2018 at 7:49:45 PM UTC-4, Karl wrote: > > I have a severe overlap in bikes, and I need to pair down a bit, so here > we go. 55cm Sam Hillborne with 57cm double top tube. Waterford made. Some > scratches but no dents or dings. Bosco bar, nitro stem and seat