That catalog and it's predecessors going to 1991 are a big part of the reason
I'm on this forum.
'92-'94 all have the classic look.
'91 doesn't have that look but it's full of similar articles with content
that's equally amazing. A catalog with articles better than most bike magazines
- how
Totally reasonable, and a great buy for the right person. If I didn't already
have one in that size, I would have leapt earlier.
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> On Sep 24, 2016, at 4:32 AM, alan lavine wrote:
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> I'm rather surprised by the lack of interest in the Ram...is my
-Original Message-
>From: Steve Palincsar
>...I think back on or see examples of some of
>the "sleeping" models like the All-Rounder and the Rambouillet and I
>cannot help but think, what a shame.
>
All Rounder was never said to be sleeping.
Riv never promised
>From: Steve Palincsar
>Trouble is, in most cases a "rest" largely resembles a dirt nap. How
>many models that have been "given a rest" have ever resurfaced?
One - the Rambouillet
That language of "sleep" or "nap" was used once. And the Ram did wake up from
its first nap,
Jeffrey,
I'm the guy Doug mentioned. On my Toyo 64 cm Atlantis, Big Ben 50's are
probably the ideal tire. 55's won't fit. I can do the 50's with a fender on the
Atlantis, but the toe clip overlap was annoying for me.
My Atlantis was from batch 2 in 2001, so it is possible yours is from a later
The 1992 RB-1 is very nice with Roly Poly tires.
I would guess that in 1992 and 1993, the clearance did not get tighter.
I know the '91 and '90 would be similar to the '92. I can't speak to years
prior, because the geometry of RB-1's was changed after '89, and the RB-1 we
usually talk about
Awesome! I used to go there in 1995 when the ink wasn't even dry on my Riv
membership! Glad it's still there. Thanks for the flashback, Eric!
"Do you have any NOS Bridgestones? How about Ritchey Force stems, the silver
ones?" said 25 year old me.
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> On Aug 7, 2016, at 6:35
It's nice to give people the benefit of the doubt. I reject a statement that
characterizes an individual, given limited information about the circumstances.
> On Aug 6, 2016, at 7:23 AM,
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Everything David said and showed a picture of about people having fun touring
with non-perfect bikes.
I'd also like to request more info. Your original post mentions wanting an AHH
but expresses concern about the AHH not being as good for touring as the
Atlantis, Hunq, or Joe Appaloosa.
So
Of course if we never get around to selling the parts used in our experiments,
our house guests begin to say to us, "oh, I'll sleep in your guest room with
the stems!"
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> On Jul 27, 2016, at 3:45 PM, dougP
> A bit of fiddling here, changing there, & voila! In a couple of
It did wake up once after the initial sleeping announcement of 2007. In 2009,
one final green batch was sold, and then it went back to sleep. The late green
ones (but not all the green ones) came with mini-rack braze-ons mid-stay and
mid-fork.
> On Jul 27, 2016, at 4:00 AM, Fullylugged
If you're on the forum, cheers and beautiful bike! I'm the guy at the top of
Spruce who said, "You can spot those Rambouillets from miles away."
Hope you had a good ride.
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One correction: the granny/grandpa chainring on the complete Ram was 26T, not
24T, as I just wrote.
Still, lowest geared road bike you could get stock.
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> .
>> On Jul
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> On Jul 25, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>> I'm not 100% familiar with the older models. Was the Rambouillet sold as a
>> complete?
>
> no
There was a brief period where the Rambouillet (blue) was sold complete. I have
the brochure.
It replaced the
Wasn't the plan going to be that they are not going to be a homogenous batch of
frames, because they are making them for a semi-hodgepodge of pre-existing
forks?
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> Looking back at photos of the first
I'd out another top tube on my bike if I could.
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I'd put a toptube on it for post-leaning.
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Additionally, my prior reply was very much connected to my own Hunq's
dirt-versatility. Knowing that you are talking about a 2TT Hillborne for
yourself and not a Hunq, I should point out the following: that 62 cm Hillborne
is VERY versatile. I have a 2TT one of those as well, and with 50 mm Big
Tim,
I was con-2TT in 2011 or so. But it was only due to not being used to it.
Experienced (described below) showed me that my aversion was superficial.
Because in late 2012 I got a 2TT Riv that handles well with big tires and fits
me and is pure fun, and I have no idea if the 2TT contributes
Are you riding it?
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> On Jul 2, 2016, at 7:21 PM, Esteban wrote:
>
> How it looks with the Albatross bars. More photos when the Nitto Dynamic
> II/MAP/Ahearne bar cockpit arrives this week.
>
> Tight clearance at the top of the tire!
>
Awesome!
But that handlebar looks dangerously low.
The blue tape pops.
The tires make me want to ride after a weeklong hiatus.
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> How it looks with the Albatross bars. More photos when the Nitto Dynamic
I
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> On Jun 26, 2016, at 4:03 PM, Manuel Acosta
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> Someone needs to write report on this.
>
> Such a great time, really hard to wrap my head and write something about it.
>
> Pictures proved that Jackie is the Lady of the Mountain
Err on the side of big tires and mountainbikishness.
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> Is this a ride better suited for the Homer or for the Atlantis?Assumingn can
> do it all? May have to bail out as outlined previously. Might
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> Look at this interesting Rivendell owner's picture page.
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> Are you one of these people?
>
> http://rideyourbike.com/steellugs.shtml
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Who says you'll be invited on the rides? :-)
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> On Jun 16, 2016, at 6:40 PM, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> And proportionately resistant to riding a tandem with his father.
>
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 6:08 PM, James Warren &
Jake will get taller.
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> On Jun 16, 2016, at 4:24 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
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> I'm trying really hard to justify this! Our current tandem is set up w/
> Albas, B67/68 saddles, and 700X38C Little Big Bens. It's very Riv-approved.
> But I LOVE the idea
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That was amazing!
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> Howdy folks,
>
> Here are photos of a trip this past Spring inspired and aided by many of you.
> Thanks to all who helped me put these routes together.
>
> Best,
Riv has done at least one repair of a pre-existing large Ram (either 64, 66, or 68) where as part of the repair process, they added a second top tube. I am almost certain that no stock Rams ever came with 2TT.I think I remember them posting a photo of the repaired extra-tubed Ram, but I don't
Probably one of the last frames made with the original Riv lugs!
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> My '99 coupled Road Custom:
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>
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>> On Monday, April 25, 2016 at 8:33:06 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Till wrote:
>> Richard Sachs posted a
For me, Julian's story is notable for one huge reason:
that the guy said to him, "you're making us look bad."
This will not stand, ya' know. This aggression will not stand, man.
- James
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I'm interested. Where are you located?
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> If not outright purchase, I have a 64 Sam Hillborne as trade.
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> CHEERS!
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Orange one with the original lugs fits 33 mm Jack Browns no problem. I might
try Barlow Pass's on my mine, but I haven't tried that yet. No need though,
because I love how it rides with Jack Brown Greens.
On Mar 18, 2016, at 5:21 PM, 'Mike Schiller' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
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<rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com>Jim's service is rated highly, not a scratch!On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 6:39:35 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:Ready for s
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Totally fun to receive that link the same morning as this one:
http://www.bikerumor.com/2016/03/10/tpe16-iconic-brand-bridgestone-cycles-makes-a-strong-push-to-put-branded-bikes-back-on-the-market/
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wrote:
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> I've been curious about those saddles that are not Brooks, but saddlebag
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Yet that naked road bike is on a dirt trail in the brochure photo.
I too dug out that brochure this morning!
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> This rang a bell & I dug out an old Ram brochure. The geo chart lists HT
> angles at 71 in
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Way off topic
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> On Feb 28, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> I'm a neophyte to this, just starting the process of converting my CDs to
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>
> The application has to be different from and
Huge discount due to no headbadge? The AHH headbadge is so nice, that almost
seems to make sense. I think the Homer headbadge was the first of the awesome
ones that Riv started getting made in 2007 or (or maybe late '06) and that
we've been seeing ever since.
On Feb 21, 2016, at 11:22 AM,
That's what I was gonna say. Nice option if it's more widespread.
On Feb 14, 2016, at 10:50 AM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
> Where did you find 25.4mm clamp diameter Nitto Noodles? That's pretty
> surprising.
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I'd love to see a picture of your huge old Riv. I'll have to look at my old Readers to try to answer your question.I'm thinking geometry charts that would show a Road model going to 68 cm. It doesn't sound familiar, at least in print. The early Readers definitely had Road model geometry charts
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58 for you would be my first guess. I have a 93 cm PBH. My 62 cm Hunqapillar is
just right for all that I do on it, which is mostly Big Ben 700x55 riding, any
surface, rides from half an hour in length to 4 days. If a person can fit a
range of bikes, I would guess that the 62 cm Hunq is toward
Do you mean lower price and sold complete? Because if we're just talking
frames, the AHH fits what you want. $1000 more than Sam but worth it to get a
bike that actually fits someone over 6'5".
-Jim W. (Short at 6'4")
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> On Jan 2, 2016, at 11:53 AM, "'Mark Etze' via RBW
It actually isn't a rumor. People who work at Riv have they said they want to
add a larger size, 64 or 65ish. So it's totally true that they have wanted to
do it. But wanting to do it is different from being able to do it which is why
it's not certain.
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> On Jan 1, 2016, at
Can a bike be any more appealing than that?
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> On Dec 28, 2015, at 9:45 AM, "Allingham II, Thomas J"
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> A really great part of Christmas this year for me was building up a
> Clementine with my son as a gift for his girlfriend. He's
My experience is with the current 62 cm Sam Hillborne. I'm 6'4" but have only
SH of 81 cm so I have a long torso. The SH toptube is pretty long but I'm
unsure of the number. Should be on the Riv site. I set the bike up with
Albatross and just an 11 cm stem, and I angle the handlebar so the ends
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Like Hugh said. David, thanks for the description and photos. I'll chime in
during the next week. It was one of those times that makes you stop and
recalibrate your appreciation of things in life. Jacquie's a gem!
-James W.
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> On Dec 20, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Hugh Smitham
Mark,
As recently as last year, you could special order a 64 cm Hillborne, and it
would cost more and be made at Waterford. I think the price was $1800ish.
The 64 cm in a Hillborne would fit similar to a 67 Atlantis because of the
Hillborne's 6 degree top tube rise. It would also fit similar
The stem.
Can I get that stem that's on the sample Joe? Is that gonna be a new offering
from Nitto. Can I get that stem without the handlebar, without the bike. I want
that stem for some other bikes.
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That is really nice.-Original Message-
From: Philip Kim
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complete build joe on the riv blog.
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Interesting, Thanks for posting! Despite it being an exciting bike, I don't like descriptions for bikes over $2000 that lack the following specificity in their descriptions:-photo of the drive side-info on chainring sizes-info on numbers of teeth in the 9-speed cassette-frame sizeToo bad it
Keep triples alive!
On Dec 1, 2015, at 7:07 AM, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
> I don't know, folks... There's inherent beauty (and plenty of gear choices)
> in a 3x7 setup. I love my front derailleur and a nice even chain line...
> Just saying. (11 speed?? Sorry, but to me that's just wrong).
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That's correct. One little detail: when they were single-color orange and some
came with cantis and some came with sidepulls in 2010, the 2TT started to
appear on the 60's but not yet the 56's. I remember because when I bought mine
at the end of that year, my thinking was, "ooh, I can still
They didn't go for that when new. I remember a price in the teens that seemed incredibly screaming as a deal for those frames' fanciness.-Original Message-
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Thanks for the photos, David. And your new bike's bitchin'!
-Jim W.
Southern CA
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> On Nov 15, 2015, at 11:30 AM, David Yu Greenblatt
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> Thank you so much, David E, for organizing such a fun ride with great people,
> trails,
Very nice!
So 2004 was a "year that changed everything." That year brought:
- Full commitment to 650B by making frames for it
- The country bike (splitting difference between Atantis-tourer and "Road")
- Bikes made for centerpulls or extra-long clearance sidepulls (even though the
Tektros and
to explore out in the hills. We're
>>>>>> slow,
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All that with a stop at Hangar 24. It's hard to mentally process the goodness magnitude.-Original Message-
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Is it just me, or is the Clem the least photographed new Riv model ever? (This
doesn't count prototypes.)
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Dark red is what it needs to be.-Original Message-
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I've been interested in the Joe since they posted those two prototypes.
These are exactly my questions as well. I'm pretty set on what I have. Hunq (Bosco with 14 cm Ritchey stem, big dirt tires), Hillborne (classic Albatross, Barlow Pass fasties), and Atlantis (classic Albatross, 50 mm tires and fenders) trade off almost all of the duties on my favorite riding. (The
The drop being 77 mm as opposed to 80 mm is puzzling to me.
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> Comparing it to the Hunqapillar and Atlantis, the most interesting thing
> about the Appaloosa geometry to me is that it appears to be
GREAT gearing-Original Message-
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That bike is SICK!On Wednesday, October 28, 2015 at 2:59:31 PM UTC-7, Philip Kim
If I were betting, I'd bet double. Tougher call is parallel versus diagonal.
I'm gonna guess parallel double.
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> Wondering if the 62cm will be a single- or double-top-tube.
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> Anyone know?
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Nice. What a way to use a bike! By the way, I love that disc golf course. There are helpful spirits in the woods there. They correct your form.-Original Message-
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Wonderful!
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That would be a hasty thing to say to Quickbeam.
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So is the convoy of trucks on the road to Colorado yet delivering Clems to DP?
:-)
I'm looking forward to seeing photos of all the owners' new bikes in all their
colors. But it'll make sense if the owners are too busy riding them. Enjoy the
rides!
-Jim W.
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Ooh sounds like fun. If I were driving over to pick up one of those Just Ride
Clems, ready to go stock, it would make me feel like being 12, getting my first
bike of my own for my birthday, Univega 1982 10-speed!
Have fun!
-Jim W.
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> On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Anne
You can see those Protovelos still pictured by navigating back in time on the Blug. What I couldn't find anymore are the descriptions that went with those photos. The descriptions went away after those Protovelos sold, I'm guessing.-Original Message-
From: iamkeith
> Step 2: Increase the Clearances
> Step 3: Call it a "Hillborne with greater clearances"
>
> Either way, it's the same bike. Neither description is misleading.
>
>> On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 3:34:34 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
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>> &q
"cross between Atlantis and Hunqapillar,"I find myself wondering if that was a typo. Because every other report on this coming bike has said it's a Hillborne with greater clearances, thereby bringing it in the Atlantis's direction.So where they wrote, "cross between Atlantis and Hunqapillar," I
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On Oct 8, 2015, at 4:17 PM, James Warren wrote:
> I haven't used the superlights. I use the standards, and they were good with
> my 220 lbs and full large Sackville rear and trunksack small in the front on
> Marin Headlands dirt roads. Sam
s on a scale of 1-100 I am a 90. Very intrigued though.Right now I'm leaning towards supremes. On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 7:50:07 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:Barlow Pass by Compass is exactly what you want.My favorite tire.If the bike can't fit Barlow Pass, then Jack Brown Green is my favorite
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I love reading reports like this.
And regarding clearance, Riv used to show a Roadeo set up nicely with Jack
Browns and fenders. It might even be on their Roadeo page.
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> I know that I am preaching to
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