Funny how this thread came up again. Just an FYI in case anyone missed it,
the 64 cm Clem-L is on presale on rivbike now.
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Yep, even better, a mega Clem-L! I'm on the list...
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I cannot believe I missed this. I actually asked Grant about a 64 cm Clem-L
last winter after building up my wife's normally sized Clem. Grant said
they had considered it, sent me the plans for it, and told me to keep an
eye on the Blug. I missed the announcement and I see they're gone already.
Interesting, my hub had to be replaced for the same reason after a couple
of years. I wonder if it happens because the end caps unscrew in use. I see
they've changed the torque recommendation from 12 Nm to 20 Nm...
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Thanks Mark. Hmm, you're probably right about looking elsewhere, but there
are an assortment of squeaks, clicks and clunks coming from the area.
By the way, was it the ratchet ring that your hub went back to Phil for?
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Hi all,
This could be a silly question, but it's the internet so I'll ask anyway.
I'm planning to change the bearings in my Phil Wood "touring" cassette hub.
I can't see instructions for replacing the bearings in that model on their
website. There is a PDF for their FSA hubs, which are
Thanks for the comments!
Yeah, I'm aware of the XL Clem H... problem is I have two bombadils so there's
no justification for it. A gigantic step-through would be something else
entirely!
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Hi all,
Well it took a while, but I finally got my wife's Clementine finished just
after Christmas, and she finally got around to photographing it a couple of
weeks ago!
https://flic.kr/s/aHskAkjmbt
Rivendell didn't fool us with their "budget bike" hyperbole–we went with a
fancy build...
If
Hi all,
Just necro'ing this thread (also partly in light of the derailer discussion
in another thread) to say that I recently switched to a Dyna-sys mech on my
Bomba MTB as a result of this discussion. I'm shifting an 8sp cassette with
Silver friction shifters. The specific model I bought is
Is it definitely seated properly
(http://sheldonbrown.com/flats.html#seating)?
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Thanks Bill, I'd been keeping my eye on Bike24—they must've arrived in stock in
the last week or so. Nothing to delay the Clem build now!
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Sounds perfect! Where'd you get the 27.5s? I've been waiting on those too...
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If they do the step-through version in 65 cm I'm going to find it pretty hard
to resist...
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That is magic, well done. So you went for v-brakes over the cantis and pulley
that were discussed earlier?
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Very nice! Atlas rims with Compass 48x584 tyres, in the end?
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Hi Kelly,
Don't have anything for sale, but I do own a 64 and a 68 Bombadil. I'm sure
you've thought about reach. I have long legs (PBH 100) but not a lot of
reach (6'4.5"). The standover on the 68 is great but the top tube is quite
long. It's *perfect* with Bosco Bullmooses (most comfortable
Someone (was it Garth?) posted a link to a new 584 × 60 mm Schwalbe that
doesn't have any puncture protection. I think I'll give them a try, although
the new compass tyres are tempting too. I can't remember the name of the
Schwalbe model, my brain is saying 'big one' but that's too awful even
Garth, thanks for pointing out the new Schwalbe tyres. I think the 584 Big One
will be going on the Clementine!
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Very interesting. I wonder what size case/bag it fits into. I have no need
for a 3rd large Riv and I'm not allowed one anyway, but one day I will
regret not buying this!
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Oh, I wonder if it's this one: http://www.sandsmachine.com/a_rex_r6.htm
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Hi all,
I was trying to think of a title on-theme with some of the recent threads.
Maybe Slow riders! Pleasant weather! Inexplicably delayed ride report!
will do.
This past spring, three of us went for a short tour in the Pyrenees. We
arrived by train in Girona (Catalunya), before heading up
Thanks Patrick! Most of the nice photos were taken by Cat. We live in
France, but home for us is Australia. These Rivs have been around!
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My 68 cm Bombadil didn't like having a two-leg stand attached to the plate.
It was never that stable, the stand kept coming loose and the plate ended
up deformed.
On the other hand my better half has one attached to the plate on her 54 cm
Homer and it's fine (four years, no problems). There is
Patrick, I think you may be referring to the Ursus Jumbo. I tried it, it
was OK but it kept coming loose. Anyway, I'm with you on the left rear
dropout stands, as I said—I found it much better particularly when loading
up a stuffed saddlesack large.
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That is such an attractive bike. My MTB bomba (64 cm) is a similar overall
build but the proportions on that smaller bike just look so much better.
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So, ah, what's the benefit of a dyna-sys RD for a mountain bike? I'm not being
sarcastic, I googled it but couldn't really understand through all the
marketing...
Does dyna-sys equal clutch derailer? Is the idea to get better chain tension on
bumpy bits? Could you just put a clutch derailer
Canti-Hilsen does sound like quite a bike. Are you going to ask Riv about it or
are you thinking aftermarket mods?
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Good one! I remember seeing FS posts for Redwoods and not even considering
them because of the skinny tyre limitation. Looks like you got around it. I
can't make out the brakes in your photo, are they just black Tektros?
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What a bike! How is the belt drive? Can't believe anyone would look at that and
only be able to come up with you should ride clipless...
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Actually, not meaning to muddy the waters here, but both of the Nitto
binder-bolt mounted cable hangers that Riv sells interfered with seatpost
clamping on my Bombadil. I fixed it by switching to Surly's cable hanger.
Could also just use a smaller-diameter bolt. Is it worth a try to go around
Snap! What Bill said...
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50 mm tyres with caliper brakes, that's fantastic!
Mark, you can get SuperMotos from the EU if you're prepared to pay
shipping. I just bought some from bike-components.de to replace the worn
big apples on my Bombadil (I **swear** they're worn, it had nothing to do
with New Tyre Envy) but
Patrick, if you're referring to the rims I linked to, they are 31 mm, not 25
mm.
Your SnoCats sound interesting. Where are they available? I didn't find them
for sale in a quick google...
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Hi David,
I've been thinking about this too (for my SO's 650B Clementine). I'm going
to go as wide as possible. I have two 700C Bombadils, both with ~55 mm
tyres (measured size), but one with 31 mm outside width rims and one with
24 mm outside width. I find the tyre profile *much* more
I live in the South of France where the streets are narrow, drivers are crazy
and there are no cyclists or bike facilities. My daily commute takes me past a
university complete with kids opening their doors, parking whilst talking on
the phone (people really do touch park here, and if they
Haha, this is genius! Modine is exactly the right age too. That's it, it's
officially him!
Great video, I'm going to show it to the guys I ride with who keep telling
me my Bombadil belongs in a museum...
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I don't have a particular preference for either system. I'm sure both are
fine and I'm happy to accept the seemingly prevailing opinion that
threadless is functionally better. But for my particular case it is not
possible to get the bars high enough with a threadless setup (OK, maybe it
would
Garth, I found that aspect of Surly's sizing quite puzzling... I was
looking at an Ogre in XXL for a while but in fact you can't get the bars
any higher on an XXL than on a small. An extra 50 mm on the steerer and I
would probably have bought one. It makes very little sense to me, but I
guess
Nope! I looked and looked for something I could get the bars high enough on
to use as a mountain bike, because at the time I couldn't afford a second
Riv. My conclusion was Riv or custom (I didn't really look at
oingo-boingos, though...). I suppose a custom fork with a long steerer for
a Surly
Hi Clay,
Good point, I hadn't thought of that. I wonder if I'd have a problem with
heel clearance.
I'm thinking about trying one of these Hebie models
(http://www.hebie.de/en/parking/rear-stands/ax/618/) that mounts to the
axle and rack eyelet. Not sure if it's a good idea or not to have the
Sounds good. I knew they'd have something for us!
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Great. I'd be interested to know if that bottom bit is really a cable stop,
when it arrives!
On Monday, 23 March 2015 22:58:15 UTC+1, Pudge wrote:
Price is right. I ordered one to see how it might be used for the ‘tine.
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So to report my results, Bill's idea of using a setscrew and loctite
definitely improved matters but the stand still comes loose after a while.
Seems like my bike is too big/heavy for a centre-mount kickstand, which is
a shame. I like the convenience of having the kickstand to hold the bike
Bargain!
I also want to use cantis on the Clementine we pre-ordered. I'm hoping Riv
will come through with something between now and when the frames arrive,
but if anyone finds anything please post it.
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Yeah, I can live with a clamp on stop and a pulley.
Found this pulley thing in a UK webshop:
http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/chrome-seat-bolt-fitting-cable-hanger-with-metal-roller-prod23279/.
Not a lot of info, but could that be an integrated cable stop at the bottom?
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Thanks Steve, that certainly looks like it's doing the job! That's what I
meant, although I don't think that particular one would work with my
Bombadil: https://flic.kr/p/boK38V. Do you put a toe strap on the brake or
something to stop the front wheel rolling?
Part of the problem is that in
Thanks for that info Kieran. I was wondering if the big person's bike was
still going to happen because I thought that project had sort of morphed
into the Clem Smith. Argh, don't need any more bikes, but if they make a 64
cm step-through I would have to get one... and how could I not get a
The Hightower manoeuvre! You're a lot taller with me with the same PBH so I
can see how the reach on a 64 would be too short.
On Thursday, 19 March 2015 22:31:35 UTC+1, Kainalu wrote:
You're going to think I ride my bike sitting on the back rack!, because
I've got a Bosco bullmoose on there.
Wow, a 64 cm Clementine would be ace, especially if the fit was like a 64 cm
Bombadil. For me it's perfect with a 150 mm bullmoose bar (not bosco) but I
guess I have a short reach. I don't really need another bike but I would love
an enormous stepthrough, so I'd be in anyway!
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I guess around 100 cm since that's what they recommend(ed) for the 64
Sam/Bomba...? I'm PBH 100 but only 6'5 and a 64 Bomba works for me with
bullmoose bars, but maybe wouldn't with swept back bars.
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Hey Will,
It will probably depend on the tyres and stud placement to some degree. My
guess, without actually knowing your setup, is that any tyres that require
65 mm fender are going to be too big for a 'cyclocross' mini V-brake. I
tried full-size V-brakes with 60 mm Big Apples and 60 mm
Nice! I can't wait for mine. Did I say mine? I meant my wife's...
One thing I haven't got my thick head around yet is the routing for the rear
brake cable. We'll see soon enough when some build pics go up I guess, but I'm
wondering what the trick is to get the cable from under the 'mixte stay'
Now now, what we are doing is considering, not worrying!
I recently had a canti epiphany so I would prefer them to Vs for the added
fender clearance... but on the other hand if there are no nice 60 mm slicks
in 584 I guess we'll go with something smaller anyway, so it's a non issue.
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I guess you can get shims that will work from 27.2 mm to 29.8 mm, and a
quick google turns up Kalloy and Thomson posts in 29.8 mm. I would still be
interested to know why it's that size since it is not natively compatible
with Nitto stuff.
On Tuesday, 10 March 2015 20:27:31 UTC+1, Wayne Naha
Anton, nice idea to use sealing films from multiwell plates. I also work in
a lab, any specifics of the ones you've tried? Maybe it doesn't matter, but
they come in a few different flavours (I think 3M helicopter tape is
polyurethane).
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Love the clampy mounting thing attached to the light bracket on the rack.
Thumbs up!
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Oops, I'm in too. Household Riv # 4 will be a 52 cm Clementine, but that
will be two each so it's totally OK. And it could be worse, if there was a
65 cm Clementine it would be 5 Rivs...
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Wow, that mixte is amazing. My better half has been looking for a step through
for ages but one of her requirements was a swoopy top tube, which ruled out the
Betty. This one is a Riv, fits fat tyres and is $700 at the moment. It's almost
too good to be true!
Just bummed there is nothing for
Hi all,
Just finished with a cockpit switch from drops to bosco bars on the daily
driver Bombadil:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-U1jrIfVIa-s/VPMd72_TrlI/ANc/PY0U4KyYZ-U/s1600/b1.png
I also switched back from v-brakes to Shimano CX70 cantis, with the tektro
fork-mounted cable
Thanks, both sound like reasonable options.
Bill, so you're short on clearance with a Big Front on an Atlantis with ~40
mm tyres? That's a bit of a surprise, I was also thinking about getting one
of those for the Bomba but there's no chance it'll fit with the long fork
blades and 60 mm big
Oh, I see. I hadn't even thought of cantis vs. rack at the stud area. Lotta
strands to keep in old Duder's head! So one would have the same issue on
any 700C bike with cantis... something lower-profile e.g. CX70s or Paul
Touring wouldn't make any difference?
Lovely build by the way. Have you
I have Clement LXV 29 x 2.1 tyres on my parallel 2TT Bomba, with wide rims
(30 mm) and room for more tyre. I test-fit 60 mm Big Apples in there with
no problem. This is a 64 cm frame, don't know if smaller frames have a bit
less clearance at the chainstays?
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I'm also pro V-brake but they just don't work with 60 mm tyres and fenders.
It's gotta be cantis for me!
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I also didn't really like the CR720s. Tried them on two bikes, always Kool
Stop salmon pads, and in the end I switched to Shimano CX70s, which are
much more flexible (in theory you could set them up with more or less MA
than the Tektros) and have a lot less slop on the posts than the CR720s.
Just a quick follow-up, I got one of Surly's long cable hangers
http://surlybikes.com/parts/small_parts/cable_hanger and it doesn't
interfere with the binder bolt / collar like the Nitto one did. So, no
filing necessary. Thanks again for all the replies.
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Jim,
That looks a lot more solid than the stamped steel headset-mounted hanger I
had. Paul's Funky Monkey is also available as a quill-mounted version.
Still, with 300 mm of headtube on my 68 cm Bombadil it's a long way to the
brake and I'm not sure if it would stop the shudder for me. I've
Hi Brian,
I'm also about to try the exact same thing, as soon as my order from Riv
reaches me. Sounds like I'm in a similar situation to yours, with the cable
holder of my V-brakes scraping against the top of the fenders. The brakes
still work but the feel at the levers is yucky.
Anyway,
It's a long time since high school physics for me, but I think any
upwards force the cable exerts on the straddle wire is going to be felt
as downwards force by the cable stop. Ted's comment sums up my concern...
hmm, I think you've talked me out of it.
Now I just have to decide whether to
Thanks for the replies, everyone. I have one of the longer Nitto
binder-bolt-mounted stops, but it interferes with the binder bolt. Not the
end of the world, and I can make it work, just looking for other options.
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Thanks Bill, my other Bomba (MTB) also has a brazed on stop, which is
nice. I'm actually switching from V-brakes to cantis on this bike
(tourer/commuter) for some extra fender clearance, but the Funky Monkey is
plan A2. And I could always try sudo cablestop I guess...
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Hi All,
Does anyone see any issues with using a one of the Tektro fork-mount cable
stops http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ca15089.htm that Riv sells on the
seatstay bridge on a Bombadil, for the rear brake?
The only thing that makes me hesitate is the possibility of destroying the
seatstay
Hey Bill,
Sorry to drag up a post from four years ago. I was thinking about trying
out a fork crown canti-hanger + mini front rack setup and searching the
archives brought up your post with a link to a pic of your Bombadil. Nice
to see you got it to work, and it doesn't look like it produced
Nice, thanks for the reply. I think I'll try it out, I'm only in the
planning stage but I'll post again if I have difficulties!
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Thanks everyone! Bill, that is a fantastic idea. I think those kickstand
bolts are M10 though? (I'm not at home to check). Now I just have to work
out what an M8/M10 setscrew is in French...
I'm actually pretty impressed with the kickstand. I have 60 mm tyres, a
triple crankset and a
Thanks for the suggestions. The kickstand has a blind hole so no tasty metal
sandwiches for me. I'll give locktite a go but I'm not terribly optimistic!
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Hi all,
I love the Ursus Jumbo kickstand I installed on the kickstand plate on my
Bombadil, but I'm getting a bit bored of re-tightening the bolt once a
week. Any smart ideas? I have a spring washer in there right now which
helped a little but didn't solve the problem completely. My bike (68
Hi Aaron,
I can't believe I'm admitting this in public, but last winter I wrote a
little calculator to optimise my canti setup using the formulas suggested
by Benno Belhumeur (circleacycles.com). I made some changes to the formula
to take into account changes in canti angle caused by changing
Nice bike! There's something really enjoyable about riding a fat-tyred
Bombadil with drop bars.
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I have two Bombadils, an older parallel-undertube and a newer tentacular.
Older takes a 27.2 mm post and newer 26.8 mm.
Both fit 60 mm big apples on Dyad rims, although it's a bit tighter on the
older one at the chainstays.
I'm using 53 mm tyres (50 mm measured on 31 mm rims) on the older one
I know the feeling because I've had seatpost slippage on several bikes (I'm
100 kg +). The first time I ran into it, I also incrementally cranked the
bolt down tighter and tighter (without helping the slipping) until it
snapped. With that in mind, I guess if the bolt snaps it means the seatpost
Wasn't it already mentioned that they were going to use curved chain stays,
assuming this bike has that new lug with fixed seat tube–chain stay angle?
I think it may be in the catalogue or an old Blug post...
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Hey, whatcha sayin' about people who own two Bombadils? Just set them up
differently and it's like having two totally different, awesome bikes!
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Tom knows I'm tempted to buy his cool bluey to go with my orangey. That
would be
Looks great to me. Long wheelbase, plenty of clearance. If they are going
to be ready to ride for $1500 it's a bargain. I know they aren't going to
come in 68 cm, but what were the sizes again?
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The larger size doesn't work for me (6'5) with drop bars.
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If opening up wide is important I have had good luck with the CX70s. On the
CX70s the pads are offset from the brake arm by a centimetre or two, allowing
normal road pads to clear the fork/seatstay. This is not the case on Tektro
CR720s. On my two Riv bikes, the same brake pads didn't clear the
Yeah, Salagou does look nice. The problem is there are tons of nice-looking
places around here but no way to get there without a car! Let me know if
you have any other tips for the area...
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Leslie, that's exactly what I trying to describe—thanks for the pic!
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When I was waiting for my tentacular Bombadil in 2011, Keven told me the
join where the diagatube meets the down tube and splits into mixte stays
for the rear triangle was quite tricky to execute (I don't remember why),
and the frame was sent from Waterford to Nobilette specifically for that
Hi all,
I finally got around to taking some photos of my 64 cm Bomba mountain bike
build. I bought the frame second hand from list member and fellow tall
person z-man a few months ago. With an international move, finding an
apartment and starting a new job it took me about three months to
Thanks for the compliments!
Patrick, the photographic talent is provided by the better half, who isn't
into riding off-road. I don't have a small camera and my phone is useless
for photos, but I'm currently campaigning for a point and shoot to take
along on rides... I'll put 29 inch sea tyres
I reckon that's a decent idea for the parts of the EU where you don't get free
shopping bags at the supermarket (not sure how it works in the US). Not earth
shattering for me personally because I'm happy taking my enormous saddlesack
into the shop, but if they were available at the checkout for
The large and medium Sackville in my household both attach in the same way (to
saddle and rear rack).
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Right, that makes sense—thanks for the info. I guess I'll tough it out,
certainly not gonna remove an SKF BB just to avoid chain rub in the very
lowest gear, which I don't use very often...
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I find FDs a mild pain. I guess there are quite a few variables. I use the
Sugino triple from Riv and an 8-speed cassette (i.e. wider chain), with a
107 mm BB so I have a narrow-ish front chainline. I initially used that
Microshift FD that Riv used to sell (R538?) but the cage would bump into
Hi Jay,
I use V-brakes with 60 mm tyres and fenders (and a front rack). It works
great. Mine are Shimano BR-T780, which have 107 mm arms. Motolites are 104
mm so it *should* work with 50 mm tyres—depending on canti stud and fender
placement, I guess. But that's just, like, my opinion.
Tom
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Can I ask this question a different way...? Has anyone on here had a riv or
similar stolen whilst locked TO something, and if so what sort of lock were
you using and how was it defeated?
I have always used the heaviest ABUS D-lock I can find but I've recently
switched to a one of their Bordo
Bill, your complete camping set up weighs significantly less than my
unladen, unsackvilled Bomba. Good effort, but is it admissible without the
booze...?
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20 lb eh? I weighed my 68 cm Bomba with racks and lock but no bags recently
when I was considering boxing it up to ship to myself. SON dyno front hub,
Phil Wood rear, 60 mm Big Apples, Berthoud SS fenders. It was 18 kg and
change. I put an Ursus Jumbo kickstand on today, so I'm thinking I might
One of my favourite recent bike videos, great job! If it had been me it
would've been twice as long to account for searching through the pile of
tools I'd accumulated in the blue carpet work area...
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