On Oct 31, 6:46 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't SSers usually have their own grouping? So even if they're in the seam
heat as Cat 3 or whatever, they're just competing against themselves?
yes. and that's kind of my point. some events have a dedicated ss
category
Are the ss-ers of the same abilities as the Cats in question? IOW,
would a cat 1 on a ss possibly competitive against his own category
peers on multispeeds? Or are all the ss-ers of lower caliber?
I know Bruce Boyson of the boblist, an avid and very experienced
offroader, is usually at the front
On Nov 1, 3:38 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
IOW would a cat 1 on a ss possibly competitive against his own category
peers on multispeeds?
No, not in a UCI level event. Again, it's just too fast. not sure
why this controversial. these folks ride through mud, sand, obstacles
Thanks for the details. Interesting; much like other discussions I've
had about pros and cat 1s on steel bikes for pavement racing -- the
consensus is that even a few lbs can make you lose and that steel, for
that reason, is not competitive at the *highest* levels of road
racing. (Lugs are certain
On Nov 1, 10:31 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the details. Interesting
here's what top level racing looks like -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9WMOA7dbH0
it's incredible how these riders attack these courses on what are
essentially road bikes with tubular tires no
Thanks, Patrick; have marked both this and t'others to watch at home
via Comcast instead of here via weak wireless.
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 1, 10:31 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the details. Interesting
here's
Just watched. Very impressive, for the speed, the handling -- and, for
me, how they managed that deep sand with such skinny tires: I know
sand, and their performance in that spot is amazing.
Tangent: Bicycle racing has a history of bad cinematography; you
certainly see it in old movies of Coppi
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your effing funny Patrick!
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Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
Depends a bit on the course. Long, steady descents or extended flat
straight bits tend to favor a multi-geared. But, if you generally have a
climbing course with sharp descents (where no one will be pedaling down) and
lots of technical bits, then the ss folk can do
On Oct 31, 12:20 pm, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote:
Indeed. Last weekend at PIR, I suffered on the mostly flat course with
long straight stretches.
Anywhere there was a short, steep climb I found I was able to stand up
and pass several women along the way. An amazing experience, and
Don't SSers usually have their own grouping? So even if they're in the seam
heat as Cat 3 or whatever, they're just competing against themselves?
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 31, 12:20 pm, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote:
Indeed.
Back in the day...when I lived and raced Cyclo-cross in So Cal (on a
Rivendell), Mark Salmon, the owner of TCB cyclery in Fullerton CA (now
closed) showed up to a cyclo-cross on a single speed, pronouncing it
to be the greatest thing since sliced bread. I was a regular at his
shop.
During his
On Oct 31, 6:46 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't SSers usually have their own grouping? So even if they're in the seam
heat as Cat 3 or whatever, they're just competing against themselves?
sometimes, yes. and that's kind of my point. some events offer a
dedicated ss
It may have been me, I have a big and a small one that I use for my
longer rides. They fit into the bags better than extra bottles on
their sides. I was carrying water in sig bottles, then switched to an
old hydration pack that I used to refill bottles, which gave way to
the platipus bags.
I haven't used it yet, but can tell it's a pretty good way to carry h20
around.
Lies flat, compresses to nothing when empty. Hopefully well made.
Thanks for the suggestion!
On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 8:52 PM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote:
It may have been me, I have a big and a small one
Well, on that easy ride we did last year around San Diego, ended up
severely dehydrated. Drank two large bottles on the ride and that
still wasn't enough. Derrick had to give me one of his bottles to
finish the ride. (That was after the second stop to repair a flat.)
So, yeah, too much is
The Platypus looks interesting, and that's like 1-1/2 big bottles.
That 3rd bottle gets kinda grungy at times. Extra water can be handy
for washing out scrapes too.
dougP
On Oct 29, 9:10 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
I think Noel suggested bringing extra water along, and
On Oct 29, 10:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 29, 12:17 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote:
(in the ss category, of course - ss'ers aren't really
competitive in the elite or even cat 3 fields),
Is this because of the type of course, or overall?
Not
And I only have to bottle holders. I ride an inferior bike.
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 1:29 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
The Platypus looks interesting, and that's like 1-1/2 big bottles.
That 3rd bottle gets kinda grungy at times. Extra water can be handy
for washing out scrapes
I think Rob mentioned the Platypus bottles. I have owned a few of them
and use them backpacking every trip for around camp and longer
waterless sections. I'll bring a 1L one for the ride in two weeks.
I am going to ride the new-to-me Ram. Gotta pick up some fatter
tires.. thinking about a 35 or
on 10/29/10 12:17 PM, Patrick in VT at swing4...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 29, 2:25 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Second observation: gearing: this sort of course seems like a good
candidate for a ss: say 60 to 65; I used to use 63 for allrounder
dirt-cum-pavement. I don't see
On Oct 29, 2:25 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Second observation: gearing: this sort of course seems like a good
candidate for a ss: say 60 to 65; I used to use 63 for allrounder
dirt-cum-pavement. I don't see anyone twiddling and a sub 65 gear is
low enough to get you through
Well, it looked pretty flat and the water crossings general abuse
the bikes were put to would be hard on derailers. Looked like even
the pastures were pretty tough going and the few road sections full of
holes. Maybe a hub shifter would be appropriate. Of course, if
you're gonna toss your bike
On Oct 29, 12:17 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote:
(in the ss category, of course - ss'ers aren't really
competitive in the elite or even cat 3 fields),
Is this because of the type of course, or overall? Wouldn't a single
63 gear be quite competitive on a course like that shown in
Patrick:
Thanks for the links. I rarely check BSNYC but these are pretty
funny. Fortunately, our little November 13 adventure in Silverado Cyn
won't require anything like this level of complexity. No stoves, warm-
up equipment or special skin treatments needed. I'd better take a
cruise out
I just purchased a Platypus as word on the street is we'll need lots of
water.
As for the video, I noticed several derailer-less bikes. Whether they were
fixed, SS or IGH, I don't know, but am guessing SS. You can try to guess
what ratios they were running (if SS). And it depends on what kind
There was at least one fixed gear that I noticed. The guy was pushing
the bike thru some boggy looking stuff the pedals were turning. Of
course, if he tossed it into the drink, got some mud in the FW, it may
have started the day SS was now fixed! You're right; hard to know
what the total
I think Noel suggested bringing extra water along, and someone else (Mike?)
said these work pretty good in a saddle bag:
http://www.rei.com/product/797977
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:01 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
There was at least one fixed gear that I noticed. The guy was
Since my gofast has, alas, provision for only one bottle cage (and I
don't want to use a strap one one), I simply use a discarded PET soda
or paid-for-water bottle in my saddlebag or jersey pocket -- won't
leak, convenient shape and sizes, and you can discard (properly) when
you are done. When it
Yeah, this is probably overkill, but it can't hurt to have!
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:35 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Since my gofast has, alas, provision for only one bottle cage (and I
don't want to use a strap one one), I simply use a discarded PET soda
or paid-for-water
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