really? straight gauge?
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Adding some spacers at either the canti studs or the crown hole sometimes
helps level the rack. I used a pair of the concave/convex washers from
threaded v-brake canti pads, as those allow
Wow. Canti bikes have some pretty racks.
What's the equivalent trade of a Blue Sam sidepull frame for an RBW canti
frame? Orange Sam?
No csnti Bleriots right?
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For comparison-to-analogous-framesets purposes, here are some chainstay
lengths for my early 70s Raleigh sport touring frames - sort of Ur-Rivs:
23/58cm 700c 1971 Raleigh International - 45.5 cm
23/58cm 650B conversion 1972 Raleigh Super Course Mk. I - 45cm
On Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:52:49
I believe you are correct. The chainstays on my early model 56cm Atlantis
(over 10 years old) measure about 44.5cm. I've always thought that was a
little short for chainstays on a touring bike, so making them a little
longer was probably a good idea. That said, I've never had a problem with
Yeah, 46cm chainstays on the 26 Atlantis would bring it in line with the 26
Hunqapillar and 26 Surly LHT. I did read on this site that 700c chainstays
are now 47-48cm, so I guess it would make sense to lengthen the 26 models as
well.
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The chainstays on my 2003 58 cm, 700c wheeled Atlantis measure 44.5 cm.
dougP
On Saturday, November 1, 2014 2:38:40 PM UTC-7, Wildcat96 wrote:
I thought I had read somewhere that Riv might have lengthened the
chainstays on the newer Atlantis frames. If I am measuring right, mine are
Just fantastic. I love your 58 Fatlantis.
On Friday, August 22, 2014 7:45:57 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
Last weekend I participated in an event put on by a local endurance
cycling club called Operacion Muerto. The task was pretty simple: ride to a
pre-determined set of checkpoints as
Yeah, great report, Mark! I actually toured through that area (including
Riding Mtn NP) on my cross-continent tour in 2011, so the photos bring back
memories.
I really like the idea of the challenge as well.
-Shawn
On Friday, August 22, 2014 7:45:57 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
Last weekend
Mark,
The write up and the photos are awesome! Thanks for sharing,
Franklyn
On Friday, August 22, 2014 7:45:57 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
Last weekend I participated in an event put on by a local endurance
cycling club called Operacion Muerto. The task was pretty simple: ride to a
What a ride! Great pictures and write up. Thanks for the vicarious
tag-along!
With abandon,
Patrick
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That's an awesome ride report , Mark. Great pictures!
Start my own modest mini-challenge; I'm doing the MS 150 Biking to the
Viking which is considerably less rigorousif we don't have monsoon
conditions like last night , I'll be happy. Your write-up is inspiring me.
Cheers, Ryan
Thanks for that, Mark.
Great pics and text. I really enjoyed it. Love the Atlantis and how it's
turned out for you.
shoji
On Friday, August 22, 2014 10:45:57 AM UTC-4, Mark Reimer wrote:
Last weekend I participated in an event put on by a local endurance
cycling club called Operacion
Mark:
What a wonderful ride. I love that you tossed out the fast as you can
notion took extra time to enjoy the territory. Your comment on your gear
list about It added weight but who cares, it was useful is pure
Rivendell.
dougP
On Friday, August 22, 2014 7:45:57 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer
That was a nice read and the photos are fantastic. Thanks for sharing.
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Hey gang,
Thanks all for the well wishes and the kind words. The first week of the tour
has been top drawer - I do love Washington State, why I live here after all.
Anyway am about to hit the mountains and will be more off the grid for those
watching the blog and photos but will update as I'm
Chapeau on your trip. You have come to our fine evergreen state at a time
of fabulous weather, Have a great ramble.
On Saturday, July 5, 2014 9:01:46 AM UTC-7, SpiralCage wrote:
Hey gang,
So I'm taking the Atlantis out on another long tour. Just did my first
night camping and am sending
I'll be following your progress over the summer, as usual, Robert. Happy
trails!
On Saturday, July 5, 2014 9:01:46 AM UTC-7, SpiralCage wrote:
Hey gang,
So I'm taking the Atlantis out on another long tour. Just did my first
night camping and am sending this as I prepare to head out. You
I completely see the logic behind selling the Hunq and picking up a faster
road bike. I went a similar route with my Hillborne and Roadeo.
I think you will feel a difference with just the frame change. The Atlantis
is stiffer than the Hilsen, and also heavier. All in all, the Hilsen should
I had (among others) an Atlantis and a Saluki and they felt very similar to
me, same kind of components for the most part.
Ryan
On Friday, June 20, 2014 10:54:42 AM UTC-7, Bill Fulford wrote:
I own an Atlantis and a Hunqapillar. I have them set up differently. The
Atlantis is stripped of
Wow that Atlantis looks awesome! I'm running the Bagman Expedition version.
They come in two sizes, this is the larger of the two. It is really great.
On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59:03 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
mark,
Glad you're enjoying your atlantis. Nice to get feedback as I'm about to
Oh the Atlantis for sure. But there are a few factors working against it -
much larger and heavier tires with a more aggressive tread, heavier rims, a
dynamo hub, and about 15 pounds more weight to move along. My cross bike is
built up to accelerate as easily as possible, so it was no surprise
Where did you purchase the bag man?
~Hugh
On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:10:18 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
Wow that Atlantis looks awesome! I'm running the Bagman Expedition
version. They come in two sizes, this is the larger of the two. It is
really great.
On Tuesday, June 17, 2014
Well said.
On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:11:39 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
Oh the Atlantis for sure. But there are a few factors working against it -
much larger and heavier tires with a more aggressive tread, heavier rims, a
dynamo hub, and about 15 pounds more weight to move along. My
I ordered the camper long flap and bagman expedition from SJS Cycles. Good
price and good shipping.
On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:28:18 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
Where did you purchase the bag man?
~Hugh
On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:10:18 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
Wow that Atlantis
I just found out that they don't make the expedition with the
stay's...according to Ben's cycle what you have was a temporary fix till
they refined the stainless steel version which is just a large hoop
attached to the saddle rails. IMO what you have is the way to go, as it
allows a greater load
Oh really? That is not cool. I've heard of more than a few brooks saddle
rails snapping from that. Not to mention the fact that it acts like a bit
of a spring. I love this support. It is rock solid and doesn't put undo
stress on the saddle rails. I could strap a pile of firewood to this thing
(aka
Yea...I may need to look for an old one someone is selling or have a new
lower manufactured. But first I need to just use what I have and see how it
works.
~Hugh
“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein
http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
Looks like an awesome adventure. Makes me want to go for S24O.
Yes, the dirty Atlantis looks very cool!
I think that the front rack you have is designed to be mounted on the lower
eyelet of the front fork-end.
They are designed for 700C bikes, and most 700C bikes have only one eyelet
for each
Oh interesting, I'll try moving it down!
On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 6:44:05 AM UTC-5, Takashi wrote:
Looks like an awesome adventure. Makes me want to go for S24O.
Yes, the dirty Atlantis looks very cool!
I think that the front rack you have is designed to be mounted on the
lower eyelet of
You mentioned weight.
Which bike is harder to pedal along, the Atlantis or the 'cross bike?
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awesome local trip Mark! The bike seems just perfect for this kind of
journey. Those Rock n' roads are great tires aren't they?
~mike
Carlsbad Ca.
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I used this kit to lower my Big Front Rack, positioning the rack further
from the brakes. Worked like a charm on my Hunqapillar with CX-70 brakes.
Tektro CR-720's would definitely not work.
http://www.tubus.com/product.php?xn=35
I may have an older version of the rack because the mounting
I had this same problem on my Hunq, solved it with the paul touring canti.
(I am assuming by interference you mean the arms of the cantilevers jut
out too far beyond the rack, meaning you couldn't put panniers there. That
was the type of interference the touring canti solved.)
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Oh I should of noted how I didn't want to use Paul brakes...no reason in
particular but I wanted to go with something else.
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Weren't there some shimano low profile canti's for sale at riv? Or you can
waddle down to your local used bike parts place and scrounge the bins...
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Eric ericwolfo...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh I should of noted how I didn't want to use Paul brakes...no reason in
I just put TRP CX8.4 mini V brakes on my wife's 26 wheeled Atlantis. They
do not extend beyond the fork leg until about the top of the tire, then
spread out to less than a half inch beyond the fork leg. One reason for
the mini Vs is they work with Shimano Tiagra road levers. Her bike does
Thanks for all the comments. Perhaps the LHT-while-waiting ploy is the best
one. I'll pass these on to the person in question.
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
I know that the Atlantis is R's most popular model (I think it is anyway)
and I know many
Here's an interesting bit of discussion that indirectly compares an Atlantis to
various Surlys.
http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2014/01/what-bike-should-you-buy.html?m=1
It seems to me that there isn't a ton of functional difference between the
brands, but there is a glaringly obvious
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Subject: [RBW] Re: Atlantis as touring bike: best choice?
Here's an interesting bit of discussion that indirectly compares an Atlantis to
various Surlys.
http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2014/01/what-bike-should-you-buy.html?m=1
It seems to me that there isn't a ton of functional
Unless he is considering some extensive wilderness kind of touring, I would
suggest he look into an Ebisu. I used one to commute for many years and
found it to have a good, stable ride on 38mm tires. with steel fenders. I
only sold mine when a very good used Saluki in my size popped up on this
Franklin Frames in Ohio will build you anything your heart desires :)
And he does not have a long wait time. Jack Trumbull is prea tty much a
one man operation in rural Ohio . He is definitely under the radar, so
speak He told me that Riv once contacted him about building some frames,
in hand, or had to wait for and
Atlantis, I'd pack the LHT and set off.
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Subject: [RBW] Re: Atlantis as touring bike: best choice?
Just an FYI if you're
I love the idea of the LHT as placeholder while the Atlantis is on order.
Best of all possible worlds, to be perfectly Candide. But perhaps I am
Panglossing over something? Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
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What is the wait time on the Hilsen? It was a while back but I recall GP
posting Riv had a surplus of larger 650B frames. The 700C is obviously a
good choice as well.
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 4:56:17 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
I know that the Atlantis is R's most popular model (I think
Having owned a (too small) Atlantis a number of years ago and having a LHT
for the past few years, the Atlantis has a better ride feel. Especially
unloaded.
The Trucker Deluxe (great suggestion) or the 26 wheel LHT would be my
choice. Of course, I like the idea of a larger frame with 26 tires.
Buy the LHT off the peg or build up the frame with as many compatible
components as possible, then swap the components it over to the Atlantis
frame when it comes available. I can't imagine you can't offload the LHT
frame with minimal loss. My wife has an LHT and I have an Atlantis. The
LHT
The Sleepers are kinda biased and we love our Rivs. So to Dawn and I it would
be a yes to waiting 5 months or finding one used.
Come to think of it though, I have two friends that tour with us using
Hilbournes and they love em.
Here are some of Dawns Atlantis loaded down.
My five cents . . .
Don't bother what what you do not want , only get what you really really
want ! Don't settle for what you do not want , unless you want to settle
for what you do not really want. *Then* you'll either have a boat anchor
laying around after you get what you wanted in
I've toured on a couple of Riv's (Atlantis and Bombadil) and a 26-inch
wheel LHT. Had great, extended tours on all. The only touring bike I now
own is the LHT.
In my size (60 cm frame), I found the wheelbase too long on the Bombadil
with the 50mm tires I prefer - and I've come to love 50's
Under $1700 is a good price for a custom frame. I toured extensively on a
frame with 8/5/8 tubing and while it was a noodle in some (lots of)
circumstances and the 700 wheels didn't do so well on rough stuff, it still
planed, somehow even with 50lb of gear. It was loaded too heavily for the
I use a Sam Hillborne as a touring bike and it has been wonderfulthe
hunqapillar would be an excellent choice too.
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 4:56:17 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
I know that the Atlantis is R's most popular model (I think it is anyway)
and I know many listmembers use
What size does said surgeon ride? I'm considering parting ways with my
Atlantis. As much as I enjoy it, time for riding is limited, I have no
plans for another tour and I have others to ride that get my ya-ya's out.
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 4:56:17 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
I know that
The Hunqapillar isn't overkill unless he's going for light touring. If he
is even thinking about doing touring on single track as an option on
whatever tour he's on, the Hunqapiller would be excellent for whatever he
throws at it.
Obviously I'm partial to Rivendell and the ride it provides. I
I have an Atlantis and have used it for all manner of riding (except
attempts at land speed records ;-) ) but I've not yet done a true loaded
tour. I have loaded the bike down quite considerably and hauled stuff
around. I can say without equivocation that the Atlantis offers a far more
comfortable
On 05/11/2014 06:11 PM, Lyle Bogart wrote:
I have an Atlantis and have used it for all manner of riding (except
attempts at land speed records ;-) ) but I've not yet done a true
loaded tour. I have loaded the bike down quite considerably and
hauled stuff around. I can say without equivocation
That's very true about the choice of tires! I had armored tires on the
Atlantis when I lived in Chinle, Arizona and they felt every bit of armored
when riding on pavement (but they did a stunning job of preventing
punctures from goat-heads!). I feel that I mitigated the on-pavement
effects of the
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That's very true about the choice of tires! I had "armored" tires on the Atlantis when I lived in Chinle, Arizona and they felt every bit of armored when riding on pavement (but they did a stunning job of preventin
Patrick:
As a happy Atlantis owner since 2003, I'm partial but I can also see 5
months being a long time. Much depends on what type of touring he wants to
do. If it's fully self-contained, camping, cooking, for weeks on end, and
he'll need to carry 4 bags plus junk on a rack, then either the
Just an FYI if you're comparing the Hunq and Atlantis, the Hunq also has a
wait time. I was quoted 4.5 months, took just over 3 months in reality.
On Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:56:17 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
I know that the Atlantis is R's most popular model (I think it is anyway)
and I
What is meant by wheel efficiency in this Context?
dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
What about the 700c wheel efficiency Vs. the 26wheel once they're
rolling?
This is an interesting question. Before getting her mini-Lantis, my
wife
rode a 700c wheeled bike. Coasting downhill, she always
In the 26 v 29 debate as I understand it there are two primary areas of
contention:
1) angle of attack. 26 is smaller, thus has a steeper angle to overcome
when hitting a rock or stump. My personal experience is that on the trail I
notice it is really easy to roll over things with 29ers v. what
What about the 700c wheel efficiency Vs. the 26wheel once they're
rolling?
This is an interesting question. Before getting her mini-Lantis, my wife
rode a 700c wheeled bike. Coasting downhill, she always drifted behind me
on my 700c Atlantis. Her bike would only take 28 mm tires vs the
I feel your pain.
My existance right now consists of obsessing about whether to buy a Troll
frameset or simply transfer my new components over to the old 820.
Sometimes I even throw getting an Ogre frameset into the mix, which would
let me use my Rich Lesnik built 700c wheels. It's usually
Chris,
Yeah it's a pain I have to live with. I'll survive.
List member Mike Shiller posted a WTB release note about the Nano heck it
may have been on this same topic? It gets all jumbled together :-) But the
Nano looks interesting and a tire of serious contention, it's relativity
light weight,
I've asked this before, but how wide tires does a 26 Atlantis take? I'm
skeptical mine would take anything wider than 2.1.
People do the Divide on touring bikes. It works. But if you read the
journals of people on touring bikes, you see them taking paved detours a
lot.
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at
Hugh,
Medicine dance is working.
Awesome job.
Tom
On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:13:28 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
Tony,
Don't be jealous, were in major a drought I can't remember the last time
we had rain?? And the high pressure pushing the jet stream North and East
has created an
I've read numerous accounts that suggest 700c wheels rollover things
better than 26 wheels...
True but in reality not a huge difference. A BQ article on tires contained
a graphic comparing the angle of a 700 wheel vs a 26 against a block maybe
4 tall (?). The difference in the angle was
If you decide to try the Nano's I'll be interested in your experience. I
plan to buy at least one set of knobby tires and they are high on my list.
Surly markets the Ogre and the Troll as touring bikes but they are
literally just a Karate Monkey (29'er MTB) and a 1 x 1 (26 MTB) with all
the
Tom,
I wish now my medicine hadn't worked on this particular weekend, but it's
an inexact science ;-\
~Hugh
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 10:34:44 AM UTC-8, Tom Virgil wrote:
Hugh,
Medicine dance is working.
Awesome job.
Tom
On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 11:13:28 PM UTC-8, hsmitham
Doug,
What about the 700c wheel efficiency Vs. the 26wheel once they're rolling?
It's been my understanding one of the reasons many tour bikes are using 26
size wheels is they are easier to get a heavy mass rolling? Seems like that
would be true. So as I see it there's always a compromise in
Anne,
You asked how big a tire the 26 Atlantis takes. My early model Atlantis
has 70mm of clearance at the narrowest spot (the chainstays). I would think
that would mean you could run 60mm tires or about 2.25. However note that
many tires are quite a bit smaller than they advertise, for
IIRC, Bike Quarterly suggested that there is a sweet spot for wheel
diameter/circumference. Basically 622X28mm (686 diameter), 584X42mm (676
diameter), 559X55mm (677 diameter) all were pretty close to it. So the
fatter the tire, the smaller the wheel.
Cheers,
David
it isn't a contest. Just enjoy
For the longest time, a photo of an Atlantis on Peter White's website that
is described as being outfitted with his best parts was my favorite
Atlantis photo. Now it's this one. I've become hooked on the 26
wheel/fat-tire combo. Nothing else looks or feels as good to me now and
the
Chris,
I too have been lusting after fat tire Atlantis...I don't see that many.
Here's one I like a lot.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/4815790104/in/pool-rivendellatlantis/
and another
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fireman483/8541167230/in/pool-rivendellatlantis
But I am curious
Keep in mind that I'm not a mountain biker and other than riding gravel
roads way back when, all my riding is on pavement.
I can't say how much is the fat tires themselves. The difference between
my 40mm and my 55mm tires is far larger than the numbers would suggest. I
think it's that old
Chris,
Interesting, the 26 Atlantis I'm building up as a off road beasty for
rough stuff bike camping...I'm still debating what knobby tires I'll run? I
currently have some Big Ben's for it but not sure they're the road tires
I'll want. Lots of folks swear by the Schwalbe supreme's.
Anyway, one
Tony,
Have you seen the new 700c Atlantis build kit on rivbike.com? It's listed in
the New Stuff link on their site.
Comes with 700 x 50mm tires now. Far out.
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Thanks for the blog shots, Tony.
The Mall looks like a great place to learn to ride in the snow. Flat, open,
safe!
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That is a great looking build kit for a 700c Atlantis/Hunq... I'm
definitely enjoying the fat tires. I'm not 100% sure of the legalities of
cycling on the Mall but it was a pretty sparse day for pedestrians and I
felt like it was safe. Great backdrop for pictures!
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I hope its not illegal. It is fun to ride there. I did it last spring with
my wife among hundreds of other cyclists. Bikes laying all over the place,
and owners basking in the sun. Noone was getting run off the property by
the cops. I didn't see any signs. Let us know if you find out for
Nice pics! I see people all the time too, I've also heard of cyclists
getting hassled by the Park Police, but I take my chances!
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
I hope its not illegal. It is fun to ride there. I did it last spring with
my wife among
Knobbies in the snow are a beautiful thing!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Sunday, January 26, 2014 10:21:26 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/01/national-mall-snow-ride.html
Certainly not a definitive 'test', but each time I'm out w/ these 2.1
tires I'm loving them
http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/01/national-mall-snow-ride.html
Certainly not a definitive 'test', but each time I'm out w/ these 2.1
tires I'm loving them more. The National Mall has a crushed stone walkway
going down either side of it and my wife and I took a very leisurely and
relatively
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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis w/ some fatties!
On 01/21/2014 03:26 PM, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
Wood fenders would probably work, I'm guessing
tony:
I've never taken photos but it's pretty easy. I just make a template from
cardboard since it usually takes me a couple of shots to get it right.
Then I cut the HDPE with a box cutter (this stuff is tough, use a new
blade). When I've gotten it properly fit, then drill holes where the
Tony,
Don't know why but I think fat tires on an Atlantis just looks right. And
those Kenda's look great. Here's a
DIYhttp://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/2014/01/17/studded-nate-grip-studs/for
studded tires...since it doesn't snow in LA really no reason for
studs...on the matter of snow and
Hugh,
I'm with you, I haven't ridden that much since the new tires are on but I
love the look of the bike... rough and ready... I did take it out in the
snow tonight for my shift at the bike co-op. Really short ride but on my
way home I strayed into a small park with plenty of snow on grass
Tony,
Don't be jealous, were in major a drought I can't remember the last time we
had rain?? And the high pressure pushing the jet stream North and East has
created an inversion layer which traps nitrogen oxide and carbon
particulates close to the ground making breathing a bummer. Yeah it's nice
It's hard to tell, but is there any room for fenders? On second thought,
you might not want them if you're riding in the snow. I rode out past
Leesburg on Sunday and there was plenty of snow on the trail. It eventually
filled up the space between wheel/fender on the Ram until I had to stop and
PS - the bike looks GREAT with those fatties
On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:11:56 AM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
Yet another snow day in the DC area... I think the schools will be in
session till July 4th at this rate! Supposedly we're in for our biggest
snowfall since 2011 but I'll
Thanks Howard! I'm going to take a harder look at the fenders this evening
if it's not to cold in the garage. It was simpler to just remove them last
night vice messing with the height. It'll be very tight to get the set of
SKS ones I have in there and to your point I'm not sure it makes sense
Tony:
If fenders can't be done, I've used 1/16 thick HDPE (an industrial
plastic) zip tied to the underside of racks as a sort of faux fender. On
the rear, it prevents the wet stripe up the back. It may work for your
front situation just to protect the light and keep some water off the
I never knew Atlantii had those swirly curves on their chainstays until I
saw your Atlantis last month. I can see the curves in the pic. Very cool.
What about wooden fenders? They are flat, so they would cover everything
and you wouldn't have to worry about if the sides will fit between
Doug,
Great suggestion about the HPDE, I am not sure that tires this size will be
a long term solution for my Atlantis but if it ends up being a regular
occurance I'll look into this stuff. I think I've seen something similar on
some of the fat-bike blogs actually. Do you have any pictures of
On 01/21/2014 03:26 PM, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
Wood fenders would probably work, I'm guessing they are a bit thicker
than plastic/metal but not wrapping around the edges would keep the
sizing pretty easy.
Also cuts back on their effectiveness, I think.
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Richard:
You and David are practically neighbors then. Here's info on the ride:
So here is the conclusion. As I was speaking with Bruce / the owner of the
bike about setting up a test ride, a buyer contacted him ready to go cash
in hand from what I understand. He was nice enough to call me back and give
me the first shot at the bike but I was only about half way there
What did the seller say? The listing says the seller would be willing to
trade for a bigger size. Is the seller about your height/pbh? What's the
seat height in the picture? If you would have to raise it more than the
seller already has it, I'd say don't do it. If you'd be lowering it,
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