Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Fit - Back Pain - RivRiders Handlebar Survey

2012-04-06 Thread Steven Frederick
Just to pile on, moving my saddle forward and lowering my bars a little went a long way to curing my lower back pain... Steve On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:39 AM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote: I too found some success with bars lower than saddle. For me it is for keeping proper

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2012-04-05 Thread Way Rebb
I just shortened my stem from 10 to 8cm. Doesn't sound like much but it's like a new bike, everything just fell into place. So much better. I had the bars raised to the limit but it always felt like I was reaching for the positions, a little different that stretching. During rides I started

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2012-04-04 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Is that your actual saddle height? If so, it looks like the bike is far too small for you, and I'm not seeing the 3-4 cm bar above the saddle height. It looks like the stem is maxed out and barely to saddle height? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

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2012-04-04 Thread Bruce Curry
I am a tease... ask anyone. I think I didn't doublecheck that the album was public before sending the link. As to crabs...they were kayak-caught last summer on Lopez. After fresh crab cooked in seawater on the beach in the San Juans nothing else tastes quite as good. Zone 7 has been good to

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2012-04-04 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Also, the saddle looks like it's pushed forward of center in the seatpost clamp. I'd slide it all the way back, and if you still feel excessively stretched, try a stem with shorter extension. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.

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2012-04-03 Thread Bill M.
Bruce, Can you post a good profile picture of your bike as it sits, and maybe one of you on the bike? Bill On Monday, April 2, 2012 5:05:14 PM UTC-7, Bruce Curry wrote: Tis the season to be putting on more miles and I am experiencing more pronounced lower back pain. For some reason

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2012-04-03 Thread newenglandbike
Bill- could you be a little less overt in your shameless gambits for more bike porn? have you no dignity man? Now, back to the topic at hand: Bruce, please post a picture of your bike already. -Matt On Tuesday, April 3, 2012 9:23:29 AM UTC-4, Bill M. wrote: Bruce, Can you post

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2012-04-03 Thread Jim
I've got chronic lower back issues, and would like to offer a plug for Pilates as a way to make the lower back a bit more robust. The doctor that recommended it told me that when you start to get to the age where such problems occur, you need some activity that regularly lengthens and

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2012-04-03 Thread Jeremy Till
Ah, bike fit. This is a topic close to my heart. I've been struggling with bike fit for a number of years now, but have recently discovered somethings that have really improved my comfort. First off, in addition to reading Rivendell recommendations, I'd also start by reading Keith

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2012-04-03 Thread RonaTD
On Apr 2, 11:50 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: Here is a sample: http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/4551628878/in/photostream/ Also, I am 6'4. Now THAT is a great looking bike! (biases fully admitted) It also is, as noted, hardly pushing the envelope for getting

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2012-04-03 Thread Bruce Curry
OK RivBikers.. You had me at Bike Porn. This is with the latest stem raise to 4cm above saddle height to alleviate back pain. Will be adjusting per Dr. Esteban's advise later today to see if my spine remains intact. I thank all those who contributed advise. I do appreciate it. Photos attached

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2012-04-03 Thread Bill M.
At the risk of seeming over eager, the link doesn't work for me. And if I need bike porn, there's a Flickr group of that name: http://www.flickr.com/groups/87416120@N00/ OTOH, if you Google bike porn, I'm NOT resposible for what you find! Teasing us with Dungeness crab after the season has

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2012-04-02 Thread Esteban
Knee-bar quotient seems spurious to me. Its hard for me to imagine just how long your cockpit is! If those are noodles, I wonder if the long stem influences handling. OK. This is an easy, if sacrilegious test. Lower the bars so that they're even with the saddle. Then ride, climb, and see

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2012-04-02 Thread Zack
Have you considered using albatross bars? I am 6'3 with a really long torso, and was never comfortable on a bike until my 64 Sam with albas. I have ridden the 64 with noodles too, but albas are really great. Just a thought. I have no idea about the knee/bar height thing. On Monday, April

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2012-04-02 Thread Zack
Forgot to add I also suffered from bad back and shoulder pain, since switching to albas my legs get tired first (which is the way it should be on a bike!) On Monday, April 2, 2012 8:05:14 PM UTC-4, Bruce Curry wrote: Tis the season to be putting on more miles and I am experiencing more

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2012-04-02 Thread William
Esteban is secretly one of those slam your stem dudes. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lXW2emiVDc4J. To post to this group, send

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2012-04-02 Thread Michael Hechmer
Bruce, you may be over thinking this problem, and over focused on bike fit. What are you doing for your back post ride? I find 3-4 sessions of yoga every week absolutely necessary while riding regularly. Perhaps a consultation with a good chiropractor or physical therapist could help.

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2012-04-02 Thread Aaron Thomas
Stem-slamming jokes aside, Esteban's test is worth trying. I used to ride with my bars at or above saddle height, but after some experimentation found that bars lower than saddle height provided a much more comfortable arrangement. Note, however, that I coupled this shift in bar height with a

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2012-04-02 Thread Esteban
Yea - Slam it, and get some tri bars while your at it!! ;) Yea, Aaron encouraged me. Its not for all, but with that old-timey quill stem, its an easy test. For touring, I like the bars even, for harder efforts, I like them lower. Higher led to shoulder pain. But its different for

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Fit - Back Pain - RivRiders Handlebar Survey

2012-04-02 Thread James Warren
I too found some success with bars lower than saddle. For me it is for keeping proper upper back posture. Also, definitely don't just look at bike fit. The advice about other solutions and maintenance (yoga, chiropractic, etc.) is good advice. In my experience, bike fit can help you see where

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Fit - Back Pain - RivRiders Handlebar Survey

2012-04-02 Thread James Warren
It is different for everybody, but I will echo that higher also causes me shoulder pain. The lesson here is that you've got to find out what works for you, because there are plenty of cases where higher is more comfortable simply can't be assumed. I will point out that the low position that

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike Fit - Back Pain - RivRiders Handlebar Survey

2012-04-02 Thread Tim McNamara
That wayback seatpost makes me wonder. If the saddle is too far back that might be the cause of your troubles. I think that before yoga or a chiropractor, you need a bike fitting by someone who really knows what they are doing. In lieu of that, be incremental and scientific in adjusting